Hormone options

Hi to all

Has anyone used hormonal skin patches ? Are they affective? What
symptoms has it helped you with? Are they a short or long term
deal ?

I am struggling with big-time tension, tiredness, aching muscles,
headaches and a sudden loss of libido.

Also has anyone in the group used natural progesterone cream ? Would
you recommend it ?

Jane

On 28 Feb 2007 20:40:56 -0800, "Jane_G" <janes_email@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:

>
>Hi to all
>
>Has anyone used hormonal skin patches ? Are they affective? What
>symptoms has it helped you with? Are they a short or long term
>deal ?
>
>I am struggling with big-time tension, tiredness, aching muscles,
>headaches and a sudden loss of libido.
>
>Also has anyone in the group used natural progesterone cream ? Would
>you recommend it ?
>
>Jane

The otc stuff is not strong enough. If it was, it wouldn't be
available otc. OTOH, there is a new study showing that that old baddy
Provera might just be an answer.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0204132230.htm

>Progestin As Effective As Risk-laden Estrogen

[small quote]

>In the first direct comparison of the two drugs ever undertaken, Dr. Jerilynn
>Prior and an international research team has shown that medroxyprogesterone,
>a progestin or synthetic version of the hormone progesterone, initially marketed
>as Provera®, is equally effective in controlling hot flushes and night sweats as
>the standard estrogen treatment.
>
>The study has recently been published in Clinical Science. Placebo-controlled
>studies of medroxyprogesterone from the 1980s showed its effectiveness for
>treatment of hot flushes, but this knowledge virtually disappeared from clinical
>wisdom, says Prior. In addition, until now it had not been directly compared to
>estrogen.

Here's Jerilynn Prior's webpage. Some of her ideas about menopause are
definitely different than what we usually hear. I've been following
her story ever since I heard her on the CBC radio talking about
menopause (and peri menopause) over ten years ago.

http://www.cemcor.ubc.ca/

Kathryn

kathryn <kdrozdik@telus.net> wrote in
news:mg0du2prjd5pthr159aotvus04lgsomggi@4ax.com:

>>In the first direct comparison of the two drugs ever undertaken, Dr.
>>Jerilynn Prior and an international research team has shown that
>>medroxyprogesterone, a progestin or synthetic version of the hormone
>>progesterone, initially marketed as Provera©, is equally effective in
>>controlling hot flushes and night sweats as the standard estrogen
>>treatment.

But isn't that the stuff that makes you irritable as all hell? I think
I'd rather have flashes.

Chak

--
No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of
policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets.
--Edward Abbey

"kathryn" <kdrozdik@telus.net> wrote in message
news:mg0du2prjd5pthr159aotvus04lgsomggi@4ax.com...
> On 28 Feb 2007 20:40:56 -0800, "Jane_G" <janes_email@optusnet.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Hi to all
>>
>>Has anyone used hormonal skin patches ? Are they affective? What
>>symptoms has it helped you with? Are they a short or long term
>>deal ?
>>
>>I am struggling with big-time tension, tiredness, aching muscles,
>>headaches and a sudden loss of libido.
>>
>>Also has anyone in the group used natural progesterone cream ? Would
>>you recommend it ?
>>
>>Jane
>
> The otc stuff is not strong enough. If it was, it wouldn't be
> available otc. OTOH, there is a new study showing that that old baddy
> Provera might just be an answer.
>
> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0204132230.htm
>
>>Progestin As Effective As Risk-laden Estrogen
>
> [small quote]
>
>>In the first direct comparison of the two drugs ever undertaken, Dr.
>>Jerilynn
>>Prior and an international research team has shown that
>>medroxyprogesterone,
>>a progestin or synthetic version of the hormone progesterone, initially
>>marketed
>>as Provera®, is equally effective in controlling hot flushes and night
>>sweats as
>>the standard estrogen treatment.
>>
>>The study has recently been published in Clinical Science.
>>Placebo-controlled
>>studies of medroxyprogesterone from the 1980s showed its effectiveness for
>>treatment of hot flushes, but this knowledge virtually disappeared from
>>clinical
>>wisdom, says Prior. In addition, until now it had not been directly
>>compared to
>>estrogen.
>
> Here's Jerilynn Prior's webpage. Some of her ideas about menopause are
> definitely different than what we usually hear. I've been following
> her story ever since I heard her on the CBC radio talking about
> menopause (and peri menopause) over ten years ago.
>
> http://www.cemcor.ubc.ca/
>
> Kathryn

Jerilyn Prior is exactly like Dr John Lee, advocating another hormone,-
progesterone - the be all and end all, in place of estrogen. In the end it's
the same type of thinking.

Roseanne

I've used progesterone cream, several diferent brands, at various
times over the years. If it's had an effect on anything, it's very
subtle. Have also used standardized black cohosh and red clover,
evening primrose oil, chastetreeberry, dong quai, etc. etc. with ditto
results. I've also eaten tons of tofu and swilled oceans of soy milk
the last 15 years, ditto.
The only thing that's helped my hot flashes and sex difficulties is
estradiol. Sad but true. I take a half-dose, .5 mg. a day. That's
enough. Any more, and my boobs get all fibrocystic like they were pre-
meno. Have taken it 2 years now; two autumns in a row I've tried to
wean off it, only to conclude I'll be stuck a while longer.
Good luck,
Les




On Mar 1, 3:47 pm, "foggydoggy" <foggydo...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
> "kathryn" <kdroz...@telus.net> wrote in message
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> news:mg0du2prjd5pthr159aotvus04lgsomggi@4ax.com...
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>
>
>
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> > On 28 Feb 2007 20:40:56 -0800, "Jane_G" <janes_em...@optusnet.com.au>
> > wrote:
>
> >>Hi to all
>
> >>Has anyone used hormonal skin patches ? Are they affective? What
> >>symptoms has it helped you with? Are they a short or long term
> >>deal ?
>
> >>I am struggling with big-time tension, tiredness, aching muscles,
> >>headaches and a sudden loss of libido.
>
> >>Also has anyone in the group used natural progesterone cream ? Would
> >>you recommend it ?
>
> >>Jane
>
> > The otc stuff is not strong enough. If it was, it wouldn't be
> > available otc. OTOH, there is a new study showing that that old baddy
> > Provera might just be an answer.
>
> >http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0204132230.htm
>
> >>Progestin As Effective As Risk-laden Estrogen
>
> > [small quote]
>
> >>In the first direct comparison of the two drugs ever undertaken, Dr.
> >>Jerilynn
> >>Prior and an international research team has shown that
> >>medroxyprogesterone,
> >>a progestin or synthetic version of the hormone progesterone, initially
> >>marketed
> >>as Provera®, is equally effective in controlling hot flushes and night
> >>sweats as
> >>the standard estrogen treatment.
>
> >>The study has recently been published in Clinical Science.
> >>Placebo-controlled
> >>studies of medroxyprogesterone from the 1980s showed its effectiveness for
> >>treatment of hot flushes, but this knowledge virtually disappeared from
> >>clinical
> >>wisdom, says Prior. In addition, until now it had not been directly
> >>compared to
> >>estrogen.
>
> > Here's Jerilynn Prior's webpage. Some of her ideas about menopause are
> > definitely different than what we usually hear. I've been following
> > her story ever since I heard her on the CBC radio talking about
> > menopause (and peri menopause) over ten years ago.
>
> >http://www.cemcor.ubc.ca/
>
> > Kathryn
>
> Jerilyn Prior is exactly like Dr John Lee, advocating another hormone,-
> progesterone - the be all and end all, in place of estrogen. In the end it's
> the same type of thinking.
>
> Roseanne- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -