My breast cancer diagnosis

"fortunata" <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> If you had been in MY hospital, you would have wanted out within 2 hours.
> I went home after one night, but you can't imagine the hell...I had no
> toilet, no toilet paper, a gown soaked in blood (no one ever did bring
> another), alarms going off by the roommate's bed, people screaming in the
> hall ALL NIGHT LONG, no one answering call buttons, no water to drink, no
> instructions about ANYTHING...and the worst was the treatment. Everyone
> was SO MEAN TO ME! I had never had a breast removed before, I wasn't
> apprised of anything, and I am not a prima donna type at all, quite the
> opposite, I've been a stoic all my life and I do NOT like to be fussed
> over (I had no visitors whatsoever and I drove myself home; in fact, I
> walked down seven flights of stairs to my car, with the stupid pain pump
> and drain dangling)....but the people were so unbelievably mean and
> resentful. I had no idea where anything--phone, bed controls--were. and I
> couldn't move anything on the "bad" side. When I left I went to the front
> desk and said "Am I supposed to be leaving with this on here?" (about the
> IV tube/bandage) and the nurse scowled and rolled her eyes..."No one took
> that off?" and then she bitched "Why did they put so much tape on here?"
> as she tore it off. I am still appalled to remember how brutal and cruel
> was the treatment at that hospital.
-----------------
Strangely, I was treated pretty much like this at the emergency room of my
hospital (I'd developed an infection and fever during chemo). I can
empathize with you. Really *nasty* nurses, for example I asked for a drink
of water and they acted as if it was the most bizarre request they'd ever
heard--finally they told me to go into the bathroom and drink the tap water.
Anyhow, I say "strangely" because I've been an inpatient in the same
hospital numerous times and been treated quite humanely.

Eva

"Eva" <EvaDStructionNO@NOverizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> I've been taking Arimidex for 3 years now, and it has definitely worsened
> my hot flashes, but they're just an annoyance to me. I do some yoga
> breathing and wait for them to be over. Remember, they don't last more
> than 5-10 minutes even at their worst. (But I don't get flashes that wake
> me up at night--never did--so perhaps I don't understand why other women
> feel their flashes are driving them mad.)
>
> Eva

I personally think it has to do with the nature of the flashes.

Some of mine (they're all daytime ones) drive me bonkers, others don't. I
don't mind the "Whoa, it's *way* too hot" ones all that much, but I
-hate- the 'jittery, feel like I need to jump out of my skin' ones. And if I
had the sweating, soaking wet ones, then I'd probably hate those too.

Cathy

On Jun 11, 8:24*pm, "Eva" <EvaDStructio...@NOverizon.net> wrote:
> "sage hen" <desertny...@cwo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0d273d32-2501-483c-b56b-bbaf2bebe76a@y22g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>Jeez, is there anyone who doesn't have dense fibrocystic breasts? *No
>
> wonder mammograms miss so many cancers. *(Hublet calls them
> scamograms) *Maybe the doctor who said I could blame dense breasts on
> childlessness was full of crap.
> ----------------
> I absolutely think he was full of crap. *Not everyone has "fibrocystic
> breasts," but about 60% of women do. *It used to be called "fibrocystic
> breast *disease*." *Imagine defining something that more than 1/2 the
> population has, as a disease.
> ------------------>>Eva and Lane, aren't hot
>
> flashes one of the symptoms of post-cancer hormone therapy? *How much
> worse can they get?
> --------------------
> I've been taking Arimidex for 3 years now, and it has definitely worsened my
> hot flashes, but they're just an annoyance to me. *I do some yoga breathing
> and wait for them to be over. *Remember, they don't last more than 5-10
> minutes even at their worst. *(But I don't get flashes that wake me up at
> night--never did--so perhaps I don't understand why other women feel their
> flashes are driving them mad.)
>
> Eva

Fortunata, I feel so lucky after reading about your first hospital
experience. I guess a mastectomy was just too daunting. It was a
hard choice, between reconstruction surgeries or radiation. I would
have had to make several 160 mile round trips to UC Davis for
reconstruction, and needed my other boob worked on too. When the MRI
said I only had two tumors, two inches apart, my doctor said a large
lumpectomy was doable on such a large breast.. I can see now that
it's noticeably smaller than the other one and noticeably perky! The
nipple's off center now, big deal.

Eva, hot flashes are my field of expertise, after 10 years of having
them first at night and then all day too. Boy, do I miss that little
estradiol pill. I wonder how soon I'll have to take the anti-hormone
stuff; wish it could be at the END of summer.

Keep your balance on that edge, Fortunata. It's no wonder you feel
teetery. For me, the four pillars of happiness are good health,
stable finances, a pleasant home, and a congenial mate. You lost two
of those pillars at once. I know it's hard to grow new ones, but if I
did it you can too.

Les

Fortunata, I feel so lucky after reading about your first hospital
experience. I guess a mastectomy was just too daunting. It was a
hard choice, between reconstruction surgeries or radiation. I would
have had to make several 160 mile round trips to UC Davis


Fortunata, I feel so lucky after reading about your first hospital
experience. I guess a mastectomy was just too daunting. It was a
hard choice, between reconstruction surgeries or radiation. I would
have had to make several 160 mile round trips to UC Davis

UC DAVIS? Where my brother is a professor, as is his wife? Where my mother
lives? and I graduated from high school there? whoa.

for
reconstruction, and needed my other boob worked on too.

why? I didn't touch my "good" one.

When the MRI
said I only had two tumors, two inches apart,

mine were far apart (one near armpit, other in middle against chest wall),
and I had already had a lump removed (golf ball sized)
for another biopsy, so it wasn't going to be easy to have anything but a
sac...I wanted to keep my nipple but they said recurrence in nipples is
common. I wish now I had done no surgery or radiation at all, but oh well.

Keep your balance on that edge, Fortunata. It's no wonder you feel
teetery. For me, the four pillars of happiness are good health,
stable finances, a pleasant home, and a congenial mate. You lost two
of those pillars at once.

gracious, no, I didn't lose my health! I was ALWAYS unhealthy but at the
time my partner left, I was doing well...that's 7 years ago...my health was
MUCH better overall during the first five years after he went, probably the
best in 30 years. The issue was my son's problems, not mine. Good health was
never part of my adult life, other than in spurts of a couple of years.
Illness was my default in my 20s and 30s, and the partner was my anchor.
when he left I was able to run 5-8 miles and lift weight and swim a mile for
the first time in 12 years. but my core cracked, no question, and it's very
disorienting, still, that he is gone, and more so that he is deliriously
happy with someone else.

Happiness isn't a worthy goal (just my opinion), but...you're right that
without good health it's nigh impossible. For me, volunteerism is the most
important thing....and then my son's well being. I would have checked out if
not for him, and probably still will, but not now. I had a great partner for
decades, and things end. The greatest gift anyone can have is the one my
mother and son have--resilience (and optimism). I don't have those for
myself but I'm really good at giving them to others, and this morning I said
"It isn't my job to be happy, it's my job to help," and that's what I do all
day. sigh.

I am very lucky with where I live, it is a haven. and I am lucky my son's
development has soared in a positive direction.

I know it's hard to grow new ones, but if I
did it you can too.

You grew a new partner after losing one of 30 years? My older brother did
that, and my ex has.

I think for some people a blow is the defining blow. I've seen it. My
processor is defective but you wouldn't believe the impression I give to
others. Everyone wants my energy, my legs, my singing, my "happiness." They
don't know it's all compensatory.

I'm glad my mastectomy tale made you feel better! But you will still need to
watch the remaining breast tissue on that side ;-( and....Femara is no fun.
Although....it's not as bad as I feared.

hang in!

Les

for
reconstruction, and needed my other boob worked on too. When the MRI
said I only had two tumors, two inches apart, my doctor said a large
lumpectomy was doable on such a large breast.. I can see now that
it's noticeably smaller than the other one and noticeably perky! The
nipple's off center now, big deal.

Eva, hot flashes are my field of expertise, after 10 years of having
them first at night and then all day too. Boy, do I miss that little
estradiol pill. I wonder how soon I'll have to take the anti-hormone
stuff; wish it could be at the END of summer.

Keep your balance on that edge, Fortunata. It's no wonder you feel
teetery. For me, the four pillars of happiness are good health,
stable finances, a pleasant home, and a congenial mate. You lost two
of those pillars at once. I know it's hard to grow new ones, but if I
did it you can too.

Les

On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:41:39 GMT, "fortunata" <pacifist@gmail.com>
wrote:

>If you had been in MY hospital, you would have wanted out within 2 hours. I
>went home after one night, but you can't imagine the hell...I had no toilet,
>no toilet paper, a gown soaked in blood (no one ever did bring another),
>alarms going off by the roommate's bed, people screaming in the hall ALL
>NIGHT LONG, no one answering call buttons, no water to drink, no
>instructions about ANYTHING...and the worst was the treatment. Everyone was
>SO MEAN TO ME! I had never had a breast removed before, I wasn't apprised of
>anything, and I am not a prima donna type at all, quite the opposite, I've
>been a stoic all my life and I do NOT like to be fussed over (I had no
>visitors whatsoever and I drove myself home; in fact, I walked down seven
>flights of stairs to my car, with the stupid pain pump and drain
>dangling)....but the people were so unbelievably mean and resentful. I had
>no idea where anything--phone, bed controls--were. and I couldn't move
>anything on the "bad" side. When I left I went to the front desk and said
>"Am I supposed to be leaving with this on here?" (about the IV tube/bandage)
>and the nurse scowled and rolled her eyes..."No one took that off?" and then
>she bitched "Why did they put so much tape on here?" as she tore it off. I
>am still appalled to remember how brutal and cruel was the treatment at that
>hospital. for my second surgery (which turned into two) I went to the other
>hospital, and they treated me as if it were a 5-star hotel. I actually
>nearly cried with gratitude, saying "You're being so nice to me." that
>wasn't even a scheduled overnight, yet I had everything: private room,
>earplugs, sweet treatment, silence, darkness, great bed..oh, and toilet
>paper.
>
>> I'm really glad it went well. I never met anyone who *wanted* a
>> "drive-through mastectomy" before. You're very tough!
>> Eva
>>

What a nasty experience! I do like the subject line though ;-)



What a nasty experience! I would have hightailed it out of there as
well ht

I wanted home birth and my state has the highest percentage in the country;
I wanted water birth! but with only half a uterus, and footling breech, and
contractions from the fourth month on, eeekkk...had to have planned
C-section. hospital was great, same one that treated me like crap in the
above account. I didn't even tell all of it, it was really like some kind of
horror movie, I still can't fathom what was going on, they were so
dismissive and downright CRUEL.
"WWWSC #4" <krez56@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> fortunata wrote the following on 6/11/08 2:41 PM:
>> If you had been in MY hospital, you would have wanted out within 2 hours.
>
> What a horrible experience. I don't think my mother has ever experienced
> anything quite as bad, but a few of her hospitalizations have come close.
> My favorite was the hospital dietitian informing my mother that the celiac
> diet is a fad diet and she can't be expected to provide food for fad
> diets. For the record, celiac is a serious medical condition where wheat,
> rye, barley, and gluten are toxic, even in minute quantities. Had my
> mother eaten what the dietitian wanted to give her she would have been
> very ill. We brought her meals from home.
>
> I've never had to stay in a hospital, other than at birth. Home births for
> my three children, and nothing (so far) that would warrant anything other
> than outpatient -- which Kaiser has its own facility for.
> --
> Karen R.

yes! They told me there was nothing to drink. I had to ask an orderly
(finally, someone kind!) to open my blinds, because I couldn't reach
them...he was also kind enough to bring me some soda from another floor, and
move the portable toilet close enough I could almost get to it. still no
toilet paper, and when I finally got a 1/2 Kleenex to use, there was no
trash can.
sigh.
"Eva" <EvaDStructionNO@NOverizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "fortunata" <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news%U3k.72780$SV4.2482@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> If you had been in MY hospital, you would have wanted out within 2 hours.
>> I went home after one night, but you can't imagine the hell...I had no
>> toilet, no toilet paper, a gown soaked in blood (no one ever did bring
>> another), alarms going off by the roommate's bed, people screaming in the
>> hall ALL NIGHT LONG, no one answering call buttons, no water to drink, no
>> instructions about ANYTHING...and the worst was the treatment. Everyone
>> was SO MEAN TO ME! I had never had a breast removed before, I wasn't
>> apprised of anything, and I am not a prima donna type at all, quite the
>> opposite, I've been a stoic all my life and I do NOT like to be fussed
>> over (I had no visitors whatsoever and I drove myself home; in fact, I
>> walked down seven flights of stairs to my car, with the stupid pain pump
>> and drain dangling)....but the people were so unbelievably mean and
>> resentful. I had no idea where anything--phone, bed controls--were. and I
>> couldn't move anything on the "bad" side. When I left I went to the front
>> desk and said "Am I supposed to be leaving with this on here?" (about the
>> IV tube/bandage) and the nurse scowled and rolled her eyes..."No one took
>> that off?" and then she bitched "Why did they put so much tape on here?"
>> as she tore it off. I am still appalled to remember how brutal and cruel
>> was the treatment at that hospital.
> -----------------
> Strangely, I was treated pretty much like this at the emergency room of my
> hospital (I'd developed an infection and fever during chemo). I can
> empathize with you. Really *nasty* nurses, for example I asked for a
> drink of water and they acted as if it was the most bizarre request they'd
> ever heard--finally they told me to go into the bathroom and drink the tap
> water. Anyhow, I say "strangely" because I've been an inpatient in the
> same hospital numerous times and been treated quite humanely.
>
> Eva
>

well, I'm also an expert in driveby dating and driveby sarcasm and driveby
bouquets.

"Cinnamin" <apn100279154@forteinc.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:41:39 GMT, "fortunata" <pacifist@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>If you had been in MY hospital, you would have wanted out within 2 hours.
>>I
>>went home after one night, but you can't imagine the hell...I had no
>>toilet,
>>no toilet paper, a gown soaked in blood (no one ever did bring another),
>>alarms going off by the roommate's bed, people screaming in the hall ALL
>>NIGHT LONG, no one answering call buttons, no water to drink, no
>>instructions about ANYTHING...and the worst was the treatment. Everyone
>>was
>>SO MEAN TO ME! I had never had a breast removed before, I wasn't apprised
>>of
>>anything, and I am not a prima donna type at all, quite the opposite, I've
>>been a stoic all my life and I do NOT like to be fussed over (I had no
>>visitors whatsoever and I drove myself home; in fact, I walked down seven
>>flights of stairs to my car, with the stupid pain pump and drain
>>dangling)....but the people were so unbelievably mean and resentful. I had
>>no idea where anything--phone, bed controls--were. and I couldn't move
>>anything on the "bad" side. When I left I went to the front desk and said
>>"Am I supposed to be leaving with this on here?" (about the IV
>>tube/bandage)
>>and the nurse scowled and rolled her eyes..."No one took that off?" and
>>then
>>she bitched "Why did they put so much tape on here?" as she tore it off. I
>>am still appalled to remember how brutal and cruel was the treatment at
>>that
>>hospital. for my second surgery (which turned into two) I went to the
>>other
>>hospital, and they treated me as if it were a 5-star hotel. I actually
>>nearly cried with gratitude, saying "You're being so nice to me." that
>>wasn't even a scheduled overnight, yet I had everything: private room,
>>earplugs, sweet treatment, silence, darkness, great bed..oh, and toilet
>>paper.
>>
>>> I'm really glad it went well. I never met anyone who *wanted* a
>>> "drive-through mastectomy" before. You're very tough!
>>> Eva
>>>
>
> What a nasty experience! I do like the subject line though ;-)
>
>
>
> What a nasty experience! I would have hightailed it out of there as
> well ht

"fortunata" <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4ig6k.55643$102.19522@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>I wanted home birth and my state has the highest percentage in the country;
>I wanted water birth! but with only half a uterus, and footling breech, and
>contractions from the fourth month on, eeekkk...had to have planned
>C-section. hospital was great, same one that treated me like crap in the
>above account. I didn't even tell all of it, it was really like some kind
>of horror movie, I still can't fathom what was going on, they were so
>dismissive and downright CRUEL.

Did you lodge a complaint? I think I would've been so P.O.-ed that I
would've waited a few days to calm down (albeit in this sort of case
would've likely helped only a little), & then have written to the hospital.

Cathy



> "WWWSC #4" <krez56@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Buadnbxd8fOFsc3VnZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@earthlink.co m...
>> fortunata wrote the following on 6/11/08 2:41 PM:
>>> If you had been in MY hospital, you would have wanted out within 2
>>> hours.
>>
>> What a horrible experience. I don't think my mother has ever experienced
>> anything quite as bad, but a few of her hospitalizations have come close.
>> My favorite was the hospital dietitian informing my mother that the
>> celiac diet is a fad diet and she can't be expected to provide food for
>> fad diets. For the record, celiac is a serious medical condition where
>> wheat, rye, barley, and gluten are toxic, even in minute quantities. Had
>> my mother eaten what the dietitian wanted to give her she would have been
>> very ill. We brought her meals from home.
>>
>> I've never had to stay in a hospital, other than at birth. Home births
>> for my three children, and nothing (so far) that would warrant anything
>> other than outpatient -- which Kaiser has its own facility for.
>> --
>> Karen R.
>
>

Cathy F. wrote:
> "fortunata" <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4ig6k.55643$102.19522@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> I wanted home birth and my state has the highest percentage in the country;
>> I wanted water birth! but with only half a uterus, and footling breech, and
>> contractions from the fourth month on, eeekkk...had to have planned
>> C-section. hospital was great, same one that treated me like crap in the
>> above account. I didn't even tell all of it, it was really like some kind
>> of horror movie, I still can't fathom what was going on, they were so
>> dismissive and downright CRUEL.
>
> Did you lodge a complaint? I think I would've been so P.O.-ed that I
> would've waited a few days to calm down (albeit in this sort of case
> would've likely helped only a little), & then have written to the hospital.
>
> Cathy
>
>

Or to the state licensing board!

--
pax,
ruth


Save trees AND money! Buy used books!
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they broke no laws. I also posted on line asking other people if they'd had
bad experiences at that hospital, and all I got was POSITIVE responses! I
know many nurses and surgical technologists (I work in career counseling)
and physicians, and only one of them seemed to confirm what I said.

"nickelshrink" <nickelshrink@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6btm0aF3djk7aU1@mid.individual.net...
> Cathy F. wrote:
>> "fortunata" <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4ig6k.55643$102.19522@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>> I wanted home birth and my state has the highest percentage in the
>>> country; I wanted water birth! but with only half a uterus, and footling
>>> breech, and contractions from the fourth month on, eeekkk...had to have
>>> planned C-section. hospital was great, same one that treated me like
>>> crap in the above account. I didn't even tell all of it, it was really
>>> like some kind of horror movie, I still can't fathom what was going on,
>>> they were so dismissive and downright CRUEL.
>>
>> Did you lodge a complaint? I think I would've been so P.O.-ed that I
>> would've waited a few days to calm down (albeit in this sort of case
>> would've likely helped only a little), & then have written to the
>> hospital.
>>
>> Cathy
>>
>>
>
> Or to the state licensing board!
>
> --
> pax,
> ruth
>
>
> Save trees AND money! Buy used books!
> http://stores.ebay.com/Noir-and-More-Books-and-Trains

oh yes, I did, and this is my metier, I am a writer and I know people in
this town; I got a call from someone at the hospital, and a letter saying
they would investigate. but that's ALL I got.

"Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote in message
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>
> "fortunata" <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4ig6k.55643$102.19522@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>I wanted home birth and my state has the highest percentage in the
>>country; I wanted water birth! but with only half a uterus, and footling
>>breech, and contractions from the fourth month on, eeekkk...had to have
>>planned C-section. hospital was great, same one that treated me like crap
>>in the above account. I didn't even tell all of it, it was really like
>>some kind of horror movie, I still can't fathom what was going on, they
>>were so dismissive and downright CRUEL.
>
> Did you lodge a complaint? I think I would've been so P.O.-ed that I
> would've waited a few days to calm down (albeit in this sort of case
> would've likely helped only a little), & then have written to the
> hospital.
>
> Cathy
>
>
>
>> "WWWSC #4" <krez56@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Buadnbxd8fOFsc3VnZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@earthlink.co m...
>>> fortunata wrote the following on 6/11/08 2:41 PM:
>>>> If you had been in MY hospital, you would have wanted out within 2
>>>> hours.
>>>
>>> What a horrible experience. I don't think my mother has ever experienced
>>> anything quite as bad, but a few of her hospitalizations have come
>>> close. My favorite was the hospital dietitian informing my mother that
>>> the celiac diet is a fad diet and she can't be expected to provide food
>>> for fad diets. For the record, celiac is a serious medical condition
>>> where wheat, rye, barley, and gluten are toxic, even in minute
>>> quantities. Had my mother eaten what the dietitian wanted to give her
>>> she would have been very ill. We brought her meals from home.
>>>
>>> I've never had to stay in a hospital, other than at birth. Home births
>>> for my three children, and nothing (so far) that would warrant anything
>>> other than outpatient -- which Kaiser has its own facility for.
>>> --
>>> Karen R.
>>
>>
>
>

Sigh, right now even a driveby date sounds nice lol!
Ah well, it's a beautiful day here so I plan to ignore housework and
spend the afternoon outside at the park. Who knows!



On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:49:38 GMT, "fortunata" <pacifist@gmail.com>
wrote:

>well, I'm also an expert in driveby dating and driveby sarcasm and driveby
>bouquets.
>
>"Cinnamin" <apn100279154@forteinc.com> wrote in message
>news73j54971g6phc890tppna10880i52gdv6@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:41:39 GMT, "fortunata" <pacifist@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>If you had been in MY hospital, you would have wanted out within 2 hours.
>>>I
>>>went home after one night, but you can't imagine the hell...I had no
>>>toilet,
>>>no toilet paper, a gown soaked in blood (no one ever did bring another),
>>>alarms going off by the roommate's bed, people screaming in the hall ALL
>>>NIGHT LONG, no one answering call buttons, no water to drink, no
>>>instructions about ANYTHING...and the worst was the treatment. Everyone
>>>was
>>>SO MEAN TO ME! I had never had a breast removed before, I wasn't apprised
>>>of
>>>anything, and I am not a prima donna type at all, quite the opposite, I've
>>>been a stoic all my life and I do NOT like to be fussed over (I had no
>>>visitors whatsoever and I drove myself home; in fact, I walked down seven
>>>flights of stairs to my car, with the stupid pain pump and drain
>>>dangling)....but the people were so unbelievably mean and resentful. I had
>>>no idea where anything--phone, bed controls--were. and I couldn't move
>>>anything on the "bad" side. When I left I went to the front desk and said
>>>"Am I supposed to be leaving with this on here?" (about the IV
>>>tube/bandage)
>>>and the nurse scowled and rolled her eyes..."No one took that off?" and
>>>then
>>>she bitched "Why did they put so much tape on here?" as she tore it off. I
>>>am still appalled to remember how brutal and cruel was the treatment at
>>>that
>>>hospital. for my second surgery (which turned into two) I went to the
>>>other
>>>hospital, and they treated me as if it were a 5-star hotel. I actually
>>>nearly cried with gratitude, saying "You're being so nice to me." that
>>>wasn't even a scheduled overnight, yet I had everything: private room,
>>>earplugs, sweet treatment, silence, darkness, great bed..oh, and toilet
>>>paper.
>>>
>>>> I'm really glad it went well. I never met anyone who *wanted* a
>>>> "drive-through mastectomy" before. You're very tough!
>>>> Eva
>>>>
>>
>> What a nasty experience! I do like the subject line though ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> What a nasty experience! I would have hightailed it out of there as
>> well ht
>

it's easy to get a date, or 14 dates. you can have 27 offers within 10
minutes on craigsliswt, unless you live in the wilderness?
"Cinnamin" <apn100279154@forteinc.com> wrote in message
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>
> Sigh, right now even a driveby date sounds nice lol!
> Ah well, it's a beautiful day here so I plan to ignore housework and
> spend the afternoon outside at the park. Who knows!
>
>
>
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:49:38 GMT, "fortunata" <pacifist@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>well, I'm also an expert in driveby dating and driveby sarcasm and driveby
>>bouquets.
>>
>>"Cinnamin" <apn100279154@forteinc.com> wrote in message
>>news73j54971g6phc890tppna10880i52gdv6@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:41:39 GMT, "fortunata" <pacifist@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>If you had been in MY hospital, you would have wanted out within 2
>>>>hours.
>>>>I
>>>>went home after one night, but you can't imagine the hell...I had no
>>>>toilet,
>>>>no toilet paper, a gown soaked in blood (no one ever did bring another),
>>>>alarms going off by the roommate's bed, people screaming in the hall ALL
>>>>NIGHT LONG, no one answering call buttons, no water to drink, no
>>>>instructions about ANYTHING...and the worst was the treatment. Everyone
>>>>was
>>>>SO MEAN TO ME! I had never had a breast removed before, I wasn't
>>>>apprised
>>>>of
>>>>anything, and I am not a prima donna type at all, quite the opposite,
>>>>I've
>>>>been a stoic all my life and I do NOT like to be fussed over (I had no
>>>>visitors whatsoever and I drove myself home; in fact, I walked down
>>>>seven
>>>>flights of stairs to my car, with the stupid pain pump and drain
>>>>dangling)....but the people were so unbelievably mean and resentful. I
>>>>had
>>>>no idea where anything--phone, bed controls--were. and I couldn't move
>>>>anything on the "bad" side. When I left I went to the front desk and
>>>>said
>>>>"Am I supposed to be leaving with this on here?" (about the IV
>>>>tube/bandage)
>>>>and the nurse scowled and rolled her eyes..."No one took that off?" and
>>>>then
>>>>she bitched "Why did they put so much tape on here?" as she tore it off.
>>>>I
>>>>am still appalled to remember how brutal and cruel was the treatment at
>>>>that
>>>>hospital. for my second surgery (which turned into two) I went to the
>>>>other
>>>>hospital, and they treated me as if it were a 5-star hotel. I actually
>>>>nearly cried with gratitude, saying "You're being so nice to me." that
>>>>wasn't even a scheduled overnight, yet I had everything: private room,
>>>>earplugs, sweet treatment, silence, darkness, great bed..oh, and toilet
>>>>paper.
>>>>
>>>>> I'm really glad it went well. I never met anyone who *wanted* a
>>>>> "drive-through mastectomy" before. You're very tough!
>>>>> Eva
>>>>>
>>>
>>> What a nasty experience! I do like the subject line though ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What a nasty experience! I would have hightailed it out of there as
>>> well ht
>>