Osteopenia & osteoporosis & Fosamax

You may've caught this on NPR today. "All Things Considered" - one of their
topics was re: osteopenia, osteoporosis, & Fosamax.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=121609815

Cathy

Cathy wrote:
> You may've caught this on NPR today. "All Things Considered" - one of their
> topics was re: osteopenia, osteoporosis, & Fosamax.
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=121609815
>
> Cathy

OK, let's use this "disease" to sell more pills, figure out how
to diagnose more women with it, strong-arm some densitometry
companies into building office devices of dubious value, get
testing and medication for the "disease" covered by Medicare,
sell lots of pills to women who don't need them... and watch the
$$$ roll in.

It's all so cynical.

Thanks for posting this. It should be required reading for
everyone, not just middle-aged women.

FurPaw

--
We are entitled to our own opinions. We're not entitled to our
own facts.
- Sen. Al Franken (D) to Sen. John Thune (R)

To reply, unleash the dog.

On Dec 21, 10:38*pm, FurPaw <furrealpaw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> OK, let's use this "disease" to sell more pills, figure out how
> to diagnose more women with it, strong-arm some densitometry
> companies into building office devices of dubious value, get
> testing and medication for the "disease" covered by Medicare,
> sell lots of pills to women who don't need them... and watch the
> $$$ roll in.
>
> It's all so cynical.



Fascinating article - my doctor tried to get me to take Fosamax too
for the same "disease".

Glad I used my common sense and stopped taking it.

marcy

"FurPaw" <furrealpawdog@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Cathy wrote:
>> You may've caught this on NPR today. "All Things Considered" - one of
>> their topics was re: osteopenia, osteoporosis, & Fosamax.
>> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=121609815
>>
>> Cathy
>
> OK, let's use this "disease" to sell more pills, figure out how to
> diagnose more women with it, strong-arm some densitometry companies into
> building office devices of dubious value, get testing and medication for
> the "disease" covered by Medicare, sell lots of pills to women who don't
> need them... and watch the $$$ roll in.
>
> It's all so cynical.
>
> Thanks for posting this. It should be required reading for everyone, not
> just middle-aged women.

You're welcome. Yeah, to market it for its original intended use is one
thing, but to take the category intended as a simple useful slot for
scientists, & use that to manufacture a disease - & all of the
accompaniments - in order for more $$$ to roll in, is another.

On another note... Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays to everybody. :-)

Cathy


>
> FurPaw
>
> --
> We are entitled to our own opinions. We're not entitled to our own facts.
> - Sen. Al Franken (D) to Sen. John Thune (R)
>
> To reply, unleash the dog.

"Cathy" <clfr@roadrunner.com> wrote in message
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>
> "FurPaw" <furrealpawdog@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hgpigl$b25$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Cathy wrote:
>>> You may've caught this on NPR today. "All Things Considered" - one of
>>> their topics was re: osteopenia, osteoporosis, & Fosamax.
>>> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=121609815
>>>
>>> Cathy
>>
>> OK, let's use this "disease" to sell more pills, figure out how to
>> diagnose more women with it, strong-arm some densitometry companies into
>> building office devices of dubious value, get testing and medication for
>> the "disease" covered by Medicare, sell lots of pills to women who don't
>> need them... and watch the $$$ roll in.
>>
>> It's all so cynical.
>>
>> Thanks for posting this. It should be required reading for everyone, not
>> just middle-aged women.
>
> You're welcome. Yeah, to market it for its original intended use is one
> thing, but to take the category intended as a simple useful slot for
> scientists, & use that to manufacture a disease - & all of the
> accompaniments - in order for more $$$ to roll in, is another.
>
> On another note... Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays to everybody. :-)
>
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MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT

Eva

Eva wrote:
> "Cathy" <clfr@roadrunner.com> wrote in message
> news:HJ6dncIQGPesQa7WnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@giganews.com ...

>> On another note... Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays to everybody. :-)
>>
> ----------------
> MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT
>
> Eva

Happy Holidays (or Bah, Humbug, whatever floats your boat :-) )
to all, too!

(Eva, did your daughter make it back to Flordia?)

FurPaw

--
We are entitled to our own opinions. We're not entitlted to our
own facts.
- Sen. Al Franken (D) to Sen. John Thune (R)

To reply, unleash the dog.

"Cathy" <clfr@roadrunner.com> wrote in
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> You may've caught this on NPR today. "All Things Considered" - one of
> their topics was re: osteopenia, osteoporosis, & Fosamax.
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=121609815

Thanks for posting this Cathy, it's a good find.

But you know what? I only got about halfway through the article and had
to stop reading it, it makes me so disgusted.

Chak


--
It is so important to be proved wrong when one is.
--Quentin Grady, posting to alt.support.diabetes

"FurPaw" <furrealpawdog@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> (Eva, did your daughter make it back to Flordia?)
>
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No, but she did make it back to Florida.

How did you know we came from the planet Flordia anyhow? (:^)

Eva

Eva wrote:
> "FurPaw" <furrealpawdog@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hh1kbi$chu$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> (Eva, did your daughter make it back to Flordia?)
>>
> --------------
> No, but she did make it back to Florida.
>
> How did you know we came from the planet Flordia anyhow? (:^)
>
> Eva

The brain may not know, but the fingers do...

I only had to read this four times to figure out what you were
talking about ... bad enough I can't type anymore, but now I
can't even find the typos! ;-P

FurPaw



--
We are entitled to our own opinions. We're not entitled to our
own facts.
- Sen. Al Franken (D) to Sen. John Thune (R)

To reply, unleash the dog.

"FurPaw" <furrealpawdog@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Eva wrote:
>> "FurPaw" <furrealpawdog@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:hh1kbi$chu$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> (Eva, did your daughter make it back to Flordia?)
>>>
>> --------------
>> No, but she did make it back to Florida.
>>
>> How did you know we came from the planet Flordia anyhow? (:^)
>>
>> Eva
>
> The brain may not know, but the fingers do...
>
> I only had to read this four times to figure out what you were talking
> about ... bad enough I can't type anymore, but now I can't even find the
> typos! ;-P
>
> FurPaw

Oh, phew - 'cause now I feel better! I had to read it twice, to catch it;
but now I feel more with-it. Thank you!! ;-P

Cathy

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> "Cathy" <clfr@roadrunner.com> wrote in
> news:wo-dnTf96a9-ia3WnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@giganews.com:
>
>> You may've caught this on NPR today. "All Things Considered" - one of
>> their topics was re: osteopenia, osteoporosis, & Fosamax.
>> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=121609815
>
> Thanks for posting this Cathy, it's a good find.
>
> But you know what? I only got about halfway through the article and had
> to stop reading it, it makes me so disgusted.
>
> Chak

You're welcome! I guess... ;-)

Cathy

Cathy wrote:
> You may've caught this on NPR today. "All Things Considered" - one of their
> topics was re: osteopenia, osteoporosis, & Fosamax.
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=121609815
>
> Cathy
>
>

The psychology about medicine has got to change. These researchers
started out with genuine concern trying to address a real disease, but
they didn't have enough information, so they opted for an arbitrary
break off point. And then the money guys got involved....

I understand wanting to prevent disease, but we're taking it to such
extremes that people are being harmed, both physically and psychology.
Think how much happier the runner in the article would be if she didn't
have to think of herself as vulnerable. What crap!

As for fosamax, my mom was prescribed fosamax for her
osteopenia...ahem...and a year or two after she began taking it, she
started having jaw pain that seemed to be associated with a particular
tooth. Of course at first the tooth was suspect, but it showed no
problems. The dentist wondered if perhaps the sinus above the tooth was
the problem. About the same time, the news began reporting a few women
having bone necrosis in their jaws associated with taking fosamax while
getting some type of chemo and having a tooth extraction. My mom was
not on chemo and luckily wasn't having that tooth extracted. She quit
taking the fosamax anyway. Her jaw pain went away too. Coincidence?
Who knows?

Michelle C.

"Cathy" <clfr@roadrunner.com> wrote in
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>
> "Chakolate" <chakolateDeathToSpammers@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9CECA82983F0chakolatehotmailcom@85.214.113 .135...
>> "Cathy" <clfr@roadrunner.com> wrote in
>> news:wo-dnTf96a9-ia3WnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@giganews.com:
>>
>>> You may've caught this on NPR today. "All Things Considered" - one
of
>>> their topics was re: osteopenia, osteoporosis, & Fosamax.
>>> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=121609815
>>
>> Thanks for posting this Cathy, it's a good find.
>>
>> But you know what? I only got about halfway through the article and
had
>> to stop reading it, it makes me so disgusted.
>>
>> Chak
>
> You're welcome! I guess... ;-)
>
> Cathy
>
>
>

LOL! Sorry, didn't mean it to be a left-handed thank you. It was a
genuine thank you, honest. :-)

Chak

--
It is so important to be proved wrong when one is.
--Quentin Grady, posting to alt.support.diabetes

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FurPaw wrote:

> Happy Holidays (or Bah, Humbug, whatever floats your boat :-) ) to all,
> too!
>
> (Eva, did your daughter make it back to Flordia?)
>

Hope everyone had a happy, merry, or just peaceful avoidance type of week!

I just got off duty for Xmas stuff and now am busily shopping for
seating for my DD who has invited folks over for NYE with only a single
futon for seating. Good thing folks her age can still get up and off of
floor pillows, butterfly chairs or cheap Ikea arm chairs.

Susan

Susan wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> FurPaw wrote:
>
>> Happy Holidays (or Bah, Humbug, whatever floats your boat :-) ) to
>> all, too!
>>
>> (Eva, did your daughter make it back to Flordia?)
>>
>
> Hope everyone had a happy, merry, or just peaceful avoidance type of week!
>
> I just got off duty for Xmas stuff and now am busily shopping for
> seating for my DD who has invited folks over for NYE with only a single
> futon for seating. Good thing folks her age can still get up and off of
> floor pillows, butterfly chairs or cheap Ikea arm chairs.

When I was in college, my home-made seating consisted of two huge
overstuffed pillows with tie-dyed covers, and two outdoor chaise
lounge pads (on sale at K-Mart for $5 each). I'd take my body
and furniture at that time over what I currently have... (but not
my experience). :-)

FurPaw


--
We are entitled to our own opinions. We're not entitled to our
own facts.
- Sen. Al Franken (D) to Sen. John Thune (R)

To reply, unleash the dog.

"Susan" <susan@nothanks.org> wrote in message
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>
> FurPaw wrote:
>
>> Happy Holidays (or Bah, Humbug, whatever floats your boat :-) ) to all,
>> too!
>>
>> (Eva, did your daughter make it back to Flordia?)
>>
>
> Hope everyone had a happy, merry, or just peaceful avoidance type of week!
>
> I just got off duty for Xmas stuff and now am busily shopping for seating
> for my DD who has invited folks over for NYE with only a single futon for
> seating. Good thing folks her age can still get up and off of floor
> pillows, butterfly chairs or cheap Ikea arm chairs.
>
> Susan

Ah, yes - floor pillows! Do we all have them at one (young!) point? ;-)
I'd like to be able to get up from a floor pillow - or anything else which
is low down, for that matter - these days in one reasonably fluid motion &
without saying, "ooch... ouch..."

Cathy

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FurPaw wrote:

> When I was in college, my home-made seating consisted of two huge
> overstuffed pillows with tie-dyed covers, and two outdoor chaise lounge
> pads (on sale at K-Mart for $5 each). I'd take my body and furniture at
> that time over what I currently have... (but not my experience). :-)
>

Sing it, sistah. ;-)

Susan

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Cathy wrote:

> Ah, yes - floor pillows! Do we all have them at one (young!) point? ;-)
> I'd like to be able to get up from a floor pillow - or anything else which
> is low down, for that matter - these days in one reasonably fluid motion &
> without saying, "ooch... ouch..."
>

I had chairs made of giant floor pillows with an L shaped metal frame so
they actually had backs. Even young, I was a Comfort Queen. :-)

I got very nice, box edged cushions for very little money at Crate and
Barrel today (NUTTY crowds!) They go with her black futon and they're
well made and comfortable, even have handles. A stack of those and a
butterfly or bowl chair and she's good to go.

http://www.crateandbarrel.com/family...1&SearchPage=1

These are very well made and densely cushioned for the price. They had
some zippered small pillow cover to match; will check with K to see if
she wants those to toss onto the futon. Got the charcoal grey with
colored stripes.

Susan

"Susan" <susan@nothanks.org> wrote in message
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>
> Cathy wrote:
>
>> Ah, yes - floor pillows! Do we all have them at one (young!) point? ;-)
>> I'd like to be able to get up from a floor pillow - or anything else
>> which is low down, for that matter - these days in one reasonably fluid
>> motion & without saying, "ooch... ouch..."
>>
>
> I had chairs made of giant floor pillows with an L shaped metal frame so
> they actually had backs. Even young, I was a Comfort Queen. :-)
>
> I got very nice, box edged cushions for very little money at Crate and
> Barrel today (NUTTY crowds!) They go with her black futon and they're
> well made and comfortable, even have handles. A stack of those and a
> butterfly or bowl chair and she's good to go.
>
> http://www.crateandbarrel.com/family...1&SearchPage=1
>
> These are very well made and densely cushioned for the price. They had
> some zippered small pillow cover to match; will check with K to see if she
> wants those to toss onto the futon. Got the charcoal grey with colored
> stripes.
>
> Susan

They're nice - they should work well, & I would've chosen the same ones.
And the handles are a good idea.

My only complaint would be the same as what I've been noticing more & more
for throw pillows: that they need to be dry cleaned. If it says "Spot
clean" or "Dry Clean", I think: they're nuts! Esp. with kids or pets, I
want to be able to unzip the cover & toss it in the wash! I did buy throw
pillows at Pier 1 a while ago which say "Dry Clean" on their care tags, but
at least the covers do zip off. And I loved both the color & the fabric,
and they were one sale, so... ;-)

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Cathy wrote:

> My only complaint would be the same as what I've been noticing more & more
> for throw pillows: that they need to be dry cleaned. If it says "Spot
> clean" or "Dry Clean", I think: they're nuts! Esp. with kids or pets, I
> want to be able to unzip the cover & toss it in the wash! I did buy throw
> pillows at Pier 1 a while ago which say "Dry Clean" on their care tags, but
> at least the covers do zip off. And I loved both the color & the fabric,
> and they were one sale, so... ;-)
>
>

I know, I know. But better dry cleanable than not cleanable at all, I say.

We bought a real chair at Ikea, too, for almost no money. Can get a
slipcover ready made for $30, so it won't look disgusting forever if it
gets dirty. :-)

Susan