OT: Gas Prices

OK, once again, you guys over in Europe, how much do you pay for a
gallon of gas? I just paid $3.50 a gallon and I am feeling weak in
the knees.

It could be worse, I guess. I just sold the big truck I had and bought
a minivan that is getting 28 mpg. The truck got 15 mpg. So, I traded
gas purchases for car payments, and I still think its cheaper!

And do you pay by the liter or gallon?


Dana©


Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

On Apr 25, 11:22*am, Dana© <AneeB...@ownmail.com> wrote:

> OK, once again, you guys over in Europe, how much do you pay for a
> gallon of gas? *I just paid $3.50 a gallon and I am feeling weak in
> the knees.


That's all??

Our prices (here in the Midwest) went up yesterday to $3.74 a gallon.

<ouch>

marcy wrote:
> On Apr 25, 11:22 am, Dana© <AneeB...@ownmail.com> wrote:
>
>> OK, once again, you guys over in Europe, how much do you pay for a
>> gallon of gas? I just paid $3.50 a gallon and I am feeling weak in
>> the knees.
>
>
> That's all??
>
> Our prices (here in the Midwest) went up yesterday to $3.74 a gallon.

Northern NM - local station was $3.59 last night. I haven't
checked this morning...

Are you seeing a lot of variation in prices among stations? We
do, usually over about a 20-cents per gallon range, over the 100
mile, 4 town corridor that I occasionally drive. Where I live
prices are usually about in the middle of the range.

FurPaw

--
The plural of anecdote is not proof.

To reply, unleash the dogs

Dana© <AneeBear@ownmail.com> wrote:

> OK, once again, you guys over in Europe, how much do you pay for a
> gallon of gas? I just paid $3.50 a gallon and I am feeling weak in
> the knees.

You're reacting because the US has consistently had cheaper gas, and now
that price is going up very quickly. Doesn't matter what the rest of us
pay; we've always paid more and so we don't think about it. (Norwegians
certainly aren't discussing the matter much.)

> It could be worse, I guess. I just sold the big truck I had and bought
> a minivan that is getting 28 mpg. The truck got 15 mpg. So, I traded
> gas purchases for car payments, and I still think its cheaper!
>
> And do you pay by the liter or gallon?

In Europe, it's by the liter, which is 3.75 US gallons. Gas prices have
been going up here, too, but not as much as in the US. Current price in
Norway is about NOK 12.75 per liter, which at the current exchange rate
is USD 2.49, making our gallon price USD 9.34.

I know your jaw is on the floor now, but you may as well pick it back
up. You know why our gas prices are so high? It helps pay for
nationalized health care.

--
Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
http://home.online.no/~kafox/

Dana© wrote:
> OK, once again, you guys over in Europe, how much do you pay for a
> gallon of gas? I just paid $3.50 a gallon and I am feeling weak in
> the knees.
>
> It could be worse, I guess. I just sold the big truck I had and bought
> a minivan that is getting 28 mpg. The truck got 15 mpg. So, I traded
> gas purchases for car payments, and I still think its cheaper!
>
> And do you pay by the liter or gallon?
>

By the litre in the UK. Prices here in Scotland are currently going
wild, with the upcoming strike at the refinery at Grangemouth, but
when I filled up earlier this week it was 1.06 per litre. With a
strike looming many people are panicking and filling up, topping up
when they don't need to, filling jerry cans, etc, and the petrol
stations are cashing in on this - I heard of one place in Fife (just
across the river from me) charging 1.45 per litre for fuel.


--
Jette Goldie
jette@blueyonder.co.uk
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Keera Ann Fox wrote:

> In Europe, it's by the liter, which is 3.75 US gallons. Gas prices have
> been going up here, too, but not as much as in the US. Current price in
> Norway is about NOK 12.75 per liter, which at the current exchange rate
> is USD 2.49, making our gallon price USD 9.34.
>
> I know your jaw is on the floor now, but you may as well pick it back
> up. You know why our gas prices are so high? It helps pay for
> nationalized health care.

That's a good use... I've long thought that the US should follow
Europe's lead and impose high taxes on gasoline - but the
increase should be gradual, not rapid, and the rapid increase is
what's causing the panic. If not paying for health care, taxes
could pay for maintenance of roads and bridges, which are rapidly
falling into disrepair.

Instead, prices have been kept artificially low by tax breaks
given to the oil companies, while the oil companies reap record
profits. Stupid!

FurPaw


--
The plural of anecdote is not proof.

To reply, unleash the dogs

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:22:05 -0400, Dana© <AneeBear@ownmail.com>
wrote:

>OK, once again, you guys over in Europe, how much do you pay for a
>gallon of gas? I just paid $3.50 a gallon and I am feeling weak in
>the knees.
>
>It could be worse, I guess. I just sold the big truck I had and bought
>a minivan that is getting 28 mpg. The truck got 15 mpg. So, I traded
>gas purchases for car payments, and I still think its cheaper!
>
>And do you pay by the liter or gallon?
>
In the Netherlands we pay 1 euro 53 per liter - that's almost $2,39.

http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi

Not sure how much a gallon is.
But hey, your dollar is incredibly low - not so long ago 1 euro was
worth less than a dollar, look at it now!

--
There is only one pretty child in the world, and every mother
has it (chinese proverb)

$3.25 in Tucson...I get my gas at my grocery store so I get 10 cents off of
their reg price so I get it for $3.17 their reg price is $3.27. The highest
price in Tucson is $3.49 at a Shell Station.
I still drive my big truck (we live on a washboard dirt road..so trucks are
a must..especially during Monsoon season) but I only drive it once or twice
a week..mostly once when we go out to dinner on Saturdays Hubby is
driving an old 6 cylinder Ford PU...he plans on getting a small 4 cylinder
next year.
Jacquie
"Dana©" <AneeBear@ownmail.com> wrote in message
news:2h4414dqfljnprrvhub49drvjfa5s7qefa@4ax.com...
> OK, once again, you guys over in Europe, how much do you pay for a
> gallon of gas? I just paid $3.50 a gallon and I am feeling weak in
> the knees.
>
> It could be worse, I guess. I just sold the big truck I had and bought
> a minivan that is getting 28 mpg. The truck got 15 mpg. So, I traded
> gas purchases for car payments, and I still think its cheaper!
>
> And do you pay by the liter or gallon?
>
>
> Dana©
>
>
> Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
> for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

On Apr 25, 11:41*am, FurPaw <furrealpaw...@gmaildog.com> wrote:


> Are you seeing a lot of variation in prices among stations? *We
> do, usually over about a 20-cents per gallon range, over the 100
> mile, 4 town corridor that I occasionally drive. *Where I live
> prices are usually about in the middle of the range.


What ticks me off is that in our town, we have one person who owns a
string of stations and who keeps the price high. If you don't mind
driving to another part of town (and to a station he doesn't own) you
can find gas for about 10 cents cheaper. I hate it when someone like
that keeps the price high for his own pockets.

I wouldn't mind (as Keera Ann said) if the price of the gas went to
pay for National Health. Here, the gas prices cover the yachts,
bonus, perks, etc. of the CEOs of oil companies. Thank goodness that
the two oilmen in the White House won't be there much longer.

"Dana©" <AneeBear@ownmail.com> wrote in message
news:2h4414dqfljnprrvhub49drvjfa5s7qefa@4ax.com...
> OK, once again, you guys over in Europe, how much do you pay for a
> gallon of gas? I just paid $3.50 a gallon and I am feeling weak in
> the knees.

I got gas on the way home from work this afternoon; $3.69/gallon.

AFAIK, the Europeans (incl. the UK) have been paying $5.00 & over for
years... they have way more tax added in.

Part of me thinks the higher price of gas here may actually be a good
thing - even if it went up to $5/gallon: to eventually force the car
manufacturers to get into gear & make cars which get more MPG, & to force
the public to buy more fuel-efficient vehicles Vs. mammoth SUVs that most of
them don't have a real need for anyway. The other part of me doesn't want
to spend so much on gas. ;-)

Cathy (who has a Corolla, & wants a Prius)


>
> It could be worse, I guess. I just sold the big truck I had and bought
> a minivan that is getting 28 mpg. The truck got 15 mpg. So, I traded
> gas purchases for car payments, and I still think its cheaper!
>
> And do you pay by the liter or gallon?
>
>
> Dana©
>
>
> Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
> for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:42:10 +0200, thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no
(Keera Ann Fox) wrote:

>In Europe, it's by the liter, which is 3.75 US gallons. Gas prices have
>been going up here, too, but not as much as in the US. Current price in
>Norway is about NOK 12.75 per liter, which at the current exchange rate
>is USD 2.49, making our gallon price USD 9.34.

Thanks, that's what I was looking for. Price per gallon in dollars.
Actually, it makes my 3.50 look cheap. LOL.
>
>I know your jaw is on the floor now, but you may as well pick it back
>up. You know why our gas prices are so high? It helps pay for
>nationalized health care.
Now, I wouldn't mind that! We need that over here.


Dana©
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

Dana© <AneeBear@ownmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:42:10 +0200, thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no
> (Keera Ann Fox) wrote:
>
> >In Europe, it's by the liter, which is 3.75 US gallons. Gas prices have
> >been going up here, too, but not as much as in the US. Current price in
> >Norway is about NOK 12.75 per liter, which at the current exchange rate
> >is USD 2.49, making our gallon price USD 9.34.
>
> Thanks, that's what I was looking for. Price per gallon in dollars.
> Actually, it makes my 3.50 look cheap. LOL.

Nothing like perspective. :-D

> >I know your jaw is on the floor now, but you may as well pick it back
> >up. You know why our gas prices are so high? It helps pay for
> >nationalized health care.
> Now, I wouldn't mind that! We need that over here.

That's why I mentioned it. It is so easy to be shocked at things like a
sales tax well over 15% or high income tax or high gas prices here in
Europe, so I thought I'd mention one big reason why that is. And
honestly, I'd rather pay more in taxes and always get health care rather
than risk rejection from some insurance company even if I can afford the
premium.

--
Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
http://home.online.no/~kafox/

FurPaw <furrealpawdog@gmaildog.com> wrote:

> Keera Ann Fox wrote:
>
> > In Europe, it's by the liter, which is 3.75 US gallons. Gas prices have
> > been going up here, too, but not as much as in the US. Current price in
> > Norway is about NOK 12.75 per liter, which at the current exchange rate
> > is USD 2.49, making our gallon price USD 9.34.
> >
> > I know your jaw is on the floor now, but you may as well pick it back
> > up. You know why our gas prices are so high? It helps pay for
> > nationalized health care.
>
> That's a good use... I've long thought that the US should follow
> Europe's lead and impose high taxes on gasoline - but the
> increase should be gradual, not rapid, and the rapid increase is
> what's causing the panic. If not paying for health care, taxes
> could pay for maintenance of roads and bridges, which are rapidly
> falling into disrepair.

Oh, roads can fall into disrepair anyway. But in our case, not at the
expense of health care.

> Instead, prices have been kept artificially low by tax breaks
> given to the oil companies, while the oil companies reap record
> profits. Stupid!

Yes, that has always been the problem. Had the US not subsidized oil,
Americans would have been driving far more fuel-efficient cars years
ago.

--
Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
http://home.online.no/~kafox/

"Keera Ann Fox" <thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no> wrote in message
news:1ifywje.1p1cjte1ygz5ogN%thinkbig.shrinktofit@ online.no...

>
> In Europe, it's by the liter, which is 3.75 US gallons. Gas prices have
> been going up here, too, but not as much as in the US. Current price in
> Norway is about NOK 12.75 per liter, which at the current exchange rate
> is USD 2.49, making our gallon price USD 9.34.
>
> I know your jaw is on the floor now, but you may as well pick it back
> up. You know why our gas prices are so high? It helps pay for
> nationalized health care.

HOLY SHIT! 12.75 L ???

We in Toronto area are paying about 1.20/L and bitchin about it and like you
about 50 % goes to taxes which partially supports our healthcare.No
complaints there though after hearing about the $$$$$ that Americans have to
pay for healthcare. We just walk out of doctors offices and hospitals
without a hole in our wallets.

Roseanne

foggydoggy <foggydoggy@cogeco.ca> wrote:

> "Keera Ann Fox" <thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no> wrote in message
> news:1ifywje.1p1cjte1ygz5ogN%thinkbig.shrinktofit@ online.no...
>
> >
> > In Europe, it's by the liter, which is 3.75 US gallons. Gas prices have
> > been going up here, too, but not as much as in the US. Current price in
> > Norway is about NOK 12.75 per liter, which at the current exchange rate
> > is USD 2.49, making our gallon price USD 9.34.
> >
> > I know your jaw is on the floor now, but you may as well pick it back
> > up. You know why our gas prices are so high? It helps pay for
> > nationalized health care.
>
> HOLY SHIT! 12.75 L ???

Yes. In NOK (Norwegian krone). We pay about the same for a liter of
milk, too.

> We in Toronto area are paying about 1.20/L

Which is half of what we are paying right now.

> and bitchin about it and like you about 50 % goes to taxes which partially
> supports our healthcare.No complaints there though after hearing about the
> $$$$$ that Americans have to pay for healthcare. We just walk out of
> doctors offices and hospitals without a hole in our wallets.

Exactly. The Americans are being screwed. Hugely.

--
Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
http://home.online.no/~kafox/

In article <odudnYGIA4IT0o_VRVn_vwA@giganews.com>,
"Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:

> Part of me thinks the higher price of gas here may actually be a good
> thing - even if it went up to $5/gallon: to eventually force the car
> manufacturers to get into gear & make cars which get more MPG, & to force
> the public to buy more fuel-efficient vehicles Vs. mammoth SUVs that most of
> them don't have a real need for anyway.

I wish it would go higher over here, then maybe we'd get some really
small cars, and there'd be fewer of those monsters on the street. I
just don't understand someone driving along by themselves in a huge SUV
-- driving on a bus route!

There are people at my church, which is located at the connection of
three different subway lines, who complain because we don't have
parking. Boggles my mind.

If gas would go high enough to get some sensibly-sized efficient cars on
the US market, I might actually buy one for when I want to go out of
town to where the buses and trains don't go (any more).

Priscilla

"Priscilla Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:vze23t8n-66B4C1.13193326042008@individual.net...
> In article <odudnYGIA4IT0o_VRVn_vwA@giganews.com>,
> "Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:
>
>> Part of me thinks the higher price of gas here may actually be a good
>> thing - even if it went up to $5/gallon: to eventually force the car
>> manufacturers to get into gear & make cars which get more MPG, & to force
>> the public to buy more fuel-efficient vehicles Vs. mammoth SUVs that most
>> of
>> them don't have a real need for anyway.
>
> I wish it would go higher over here, then maybe we'd get some really
> small cars, and there'd be fewer of those monsters on the street. I
> just don't understand someone driving along by themselves in a huge SUV
> -- driving on a bus route!
>
> There are people at my church, which is located at the connection of
> three different subway lines, who complain because we don't have
> parking. Boggles my mind.
>
> If gas would go high enough to get some sensibly-sized efficient cars on
> the US market, I might actually buy one for when I want to go out of
> town to where the buses and trains don't go (any more).
>
> Priscilla

Well, there are the likes of the (Toyota) Yaris & (Honda) Fit - quite little
& reasonably fuel efficient.

Cathy

On Apr 25, 2:01 pm, FurPaw <furrealpaw...@gmaildog.com> wrote:

> That's a good use... I've long thought that the US should follow
> Europe's lead and impose high taxes on gasoline - but the
> increase should be gradual, not rapid, and the rapid increase is
> what's causing the panic. If not paying for health care, taxes
> could pay for maintenance of roads and bridges, which are rapidly
> falling into disrepair.
>
> Instead, prices have been kept artificially low by tax breaks
> given to the oil companies, while the oil companies reap record
> profits. Stupid!
>
> FurPaw
>
> --
> The plural of anecdote is not proof.
>
> To reply, unleash the dogs

agree. still voting for you, furpaw. why won't anyone listen to us?

On Apr 25, 5:39 pm, "Cathy F." <clfrc...@adelphiadotdashdot.net>
wrote:

> Cathy (who has a Corolla, & wants a Prius)

well, as long as we're on this subject, i still want a scooter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT8Qn5d_G20

hope i can ride it like that!

ellen wrote:
> On Apr 25, 5:39 pm, "Cathy F." <clfrc...@adelphiadotdashdot.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Cathy (who has a Corolla, & wants a Prius)
>
> well, as long as we're on this subject, i still want a scooter:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT8Qn5d_G20
>
> hope i can ride it like that!

Hmm, I think your driving instructor wouldn't be best pleased if you
did <g>

Did you know that the original novel of "The Spy Who Loved Me", the
main character is a young English woman travelling around the US on a
Vespa? (James Bond doesn't turn up till more than half way through
the story, and disappears before the end)

--
Jette Goldie
jette@blueyonder.co.uk
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
http://wolfette.livejournal.com/
("reply to" is spamblocked - use the email addy in sig)

Keera, I'm surprised Norwegians pay so much for gas. Doesn't the country
produce all its own oil from off shore rigs? That is, that don't have to
import? Isn't Norway an oil exporter?

In Australia, gas (or petrol as we call it down here) prices fluctuate
wildly from day to day, Tuesdays always being the cheapest and resulting in
long queues at the cheaper gas stations. Prices at the moment vary from
around $1.35 to $1.45 per litre.

Maree


"Keera Ann Fox" <thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no> wrote in message
news:1ig0ma0.15x2t0em72et4N%thinkbig.shrinktofit@o nline.no...
> foggydoggy <foggydoggy@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
>> "Keera Ann Fox" <thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no> wrote in message
>> news:1ifywje.1p1cjte1ygz5ogN%thinkbig.shrinktofit@ online.no...
>>
>> >
>> > In Europe, it's by the liter, which is 3.75 US gallons. Gas prices have
>> > been going up here, too, but not as much as in the US. Current price in
>> > Norway is about NOK 12.75 per liter, which at the current exchange rate
>> > is USD 2.49, making our gallon price USD 9.34.
>> >
>> > I know your jaw is on the floor now, but you may as well pick it back
>> > up. You know why our gas prices are so high? It helps pay for
>> > nationalized health care.
>>
>> HOLY SHIT! 12.75 L ???
>
> Yes. In NOK (Norwegian krone). We pay about the same for a liter of
> milk, too.
>
>> We in Toronto area are paying about 1.20/L
>
> Which is half of what we are paying right now.
>
>> and bitchin about it and like you about 50 % goes to taxes which
>> partially
>> supports our healthcare.No complaints there though after hearing about
>> the
>> $$$$$ that Americans have to pay for healthcare. We just walk out of
>> doctors offices and hospitals without a hole in our wallets.
>
> Exactly. The Americans are being screwed. Hugely.
>
> --
> Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
> http://home.online.no/~kafox/

maree wrote:
> Keera, I'm surprised Norwegians pay so much for gas. Doesn't the country
> produce all its own oil from off shore rigs? That is, that don't have to
> import? Isn't Norway an oil exporter?
>

So is the UK.

Most of the price of gas/petrol at the pumps is government tax.

--
Jette Goldie
jette@blueyonder.co.uk
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
http://wolfette.livejournal.com/
("reply to" is spamblocked - use the email addy in sig)

maree <mareelm@bigpond.com.au> wrote:

> Keera, I'm surprised Norwegians pay so much for gas. Doesn't the country
> produce all its own oil from off shore rigs? That is, that don't have to
> import? Isn't Norway an oil exporter?

Yes, yes and yes.

Norway has always had higher oil prices than other nations. Always.
Drives the Norwegians batty, but it was a policy chosen "back when" to
help bring the country out of poverty. However, it is not more
_expensive_ than in other countries, because Norwegians actually pay
less out of their paycheck for gas than other nations do. (IOW, we're no
longer poor.)

> In Australia, gas (or petrol as we call it down here) prices fluctuate
> wildly from day to day, Tuesdays always being the cheapest and resulting in
> long queues at the cheaper gas stations. Prices at the moment vary from
> around $1.35 to $1.45 per litre.
>
> Maree
>
>
> "Keera Ann Fox" <thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no> wrote in message
> news:1ig0ma0.15x2t0em72et4N%thinkbig.shrinktofit@o nline.no...
> > foggydoggy <foggydoggy@cogeco.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> "Keera Ann Fox" <thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no> wrote in message
> >> news:1ifywje.1p1cjte1ygz5ogN%thinkbig.shrinktofit@ online.no...
> >>
> >> >
> >> > In Europe, it's by the liter, which is 3.75 US gallons. Gas prices have
> >> > been going up here, too, but not as much as in the US. Current price in
> >> > Norway is about NOK 12.75 per liter, which at the current exchange rate
> >> > is USD 2.49, making our gallon price USD 9.34.
> >> >
> >> > I know your jaw is on the floor now, but you may as well pick it back
> >> > up. You know why our gas prices are so high? It helps pay for
> >> > nationalized health care.
> >>
> >> HOLY SHIT! 12.75 L ???
> >
> > Yes. In NOK (Norwegian krone). We pay about the same for a liter of
> > milk, too.
> >
> >> We in Toronto area are paying about 1.20/L
> >
> > Which is half of what we are paying right now.
> >
> >> and bitchin about it and like you about 50 % goes to taxes which
> >> partially
> >> supports our healthcare.No complaints there though after hearing about
> >> the
> >> $$$$$ that Americans have to pay for healthcare. We just walk out of
> >> doctors offices and hospitals without a hole in our wallets.
> >
> > Exactly. The Americans are being screwed. Hugely.
> >
> > --
> > Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
> > http://home.online.no/~kafox/


--
Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
http://home.online.no/~kafox/

On Apr 27, 7:31*am, thinkbig.shrinkto...@online.no (Keera Ann Fox)
wrote:
> maree <mare...@bigpond.com.au> wrote:
> > Keera, I'm surprised Norwegians pay so much for gas. Doesn't the country
> > produce all its own oil from off shore rigs? That is, that don't have to
> > import? Isn't Norway an oil exporter?
>
> Yes, yes and yes.
>
> Norway has always had higher oil prices than other nations. Always.
> Drives the Norwegians batty, but it was a policy chosen "back when" to
> help bring the country out of poverty. However, it is not more
> _expensive_ than in other countries, because Norwegians actually pay
> less out of their paycheck for gas than other nations do. (IOW, we're no
> longer poor.)
>
>
>
>
>
> > In Australia, gas (or petrol as we call it down here) prices fluctuate
> > wildly from day to day, Tuesdays always being the cheapest and resultingin
> > long queues at the cheaper gas stations. Prices at the moment vary from
> > around $1.35 to $1.45 per litre.
>
> > Maree
>
> > "Keera Ann Fox" <thinkbig.shrinkto...@online.no> wrote in message
> >news:1ig0ma0.15x2t0em72et4N%thinkbig.shrinktofit@ online.no...
> > > foggydoggy <foggydo...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
> > >> "Keera Ann Fox" <thinkbig.shrinkto...@online.no> wrote in message
> > >>news:1ifywje.1p1cjte1ygz5ogN%thinkbig.shrinktofi t@online.no...
>
> > >> > In Europe, it's by the liter, which is 3.75 US gallons. Gas prices have
> > >> > been going up here, too, but not as much as in the US. Current price in
> > >> > Norway is about NOK 12.75 per liter, which at the current exchange rate
> > >> > is USD 2.49, making our gallon price USD 9.34.
>
> > >> > I know your jaw is on the floor now, but you may as well pick it back
> > >> > up. You know why our gas prices are so high? It helps pay for
> > >> > nationalized health care.
>
> > >> HOLY SHIT! 12.75 L ???
>
> > > Yes. In NOK (Norwegian krone). We pay about the same for a liter of
> > > milk, too.
>
> > >> We in Toronto area are paying about 1.20/L
>
> > > Which is half of what we are paying right now.
>
> > >> and bitchin about it and like you about 50 % goes to taxes which
> > >> partially
> > >> supports our healthcare.No complaints there though after hearing about
> > >> the
> > >> $$$$$ that Americans have to pay for healthcare. We just walk out of
> > >> doctors offices and hospitals without a hole in our wallets.
>
> > > Exactly. The Americans are being screwed. Hugely.
>
> > > --
> > > Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
> > >http://home.online.no/~kafox/
>
> --
> Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.http://home.online.no/~kafox/- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Here in Oroville (northern) California, the cheapest in town is $3.85/
gallon. It's always higher in San Francisco; must be up to $4 there
by now. As a staunch environmentalist, I've always welcomed price
increases. Yes it hurts poor people, but hey, we've always been way
below the poverty line and I'm still glad gas costs so much.

So far, no one I know has reduced the size of their vehicle or the
amount of joy-riding they do because of gas prices.

Les

In article <9tednatWCucW747V4p2dnAA@giganews.com>,
"Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:

> > If gas would go high enough to get some sensibly-sized efficient cars on
> > the US market, I might actually buy one for when I want to go out of
> > town to where the buses and trains don't go (any more).
> >
> > Priscilla
>
> Well, there are the likes of the (Toyota) Yaris & (Honda) Fit - quite little
> & reasonably fuel efficient.

Those are still bigger than I really need.

Priscilla

"Priscilla Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:vze23t8n-128DA8.16382527042008@individual.net...
> In article <9tednatWCucW747V4p2dnAA@giganews.com>,
> "Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:
>
>> > If gas would go high enough to get some sensibly-sized efficient cars
>> > on
>> > the US market, I might actually buy one for when I want to go out of
>> > town to where the buses and trains don't go (any more).
>> >
>> > Priscilla
>>
>> Well, there are the likes of the (Toyota) Yaris & (Honda) Fit - quite
>> little
>> & reasonably fuel efficient.
>
> Those are still bigger than I really need.
>
> Priscilla

Okay, what about a Smart car?

Cathy

Cathy F. wrote:
> "Priscilla Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:vze23t8n-128DA8.16382527042008@individual.net...
>> In article <9tednatWCucW747V4p2dnAA@giganews.com>,
>> "Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> If gas would go high enough to get some sensibly-sized efficient cars
>>>> on
>>>> the US market, I might actually buy one for when I want to go out of
>>>> town to where the buses and trains don't go (any more).
>>>>
>>>> Priscilla
>>> Well, there are the likes of the (Toyota) Yaris & (Honda) Fit - quite
>>> little
>>> & reasonably fuel efficient.
>> Those are still bigger than I really need.
>>
>> Priscilla
>
> Okay, what about a Smart car?

I'd really like one of those. Small, easy to park, they stand up very
well in the crash tests and plenty big enough for me and any junk I'd
normally want to carry around.


--
Jette Goldie
jette@blueyonder.co.uk
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
http://wolfette.livejournal.com/
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marcy wrote:

> What ticks me off is that in our town, we have one person who owns a
> string of stations and who keeps the price high. If you don't mind
> driving to another part of town (and to a station he doesn't own) you
> can find gas for about 10 cents cheaper. I hate it when someone like
> that keeps the price high for his own pockets.

Most gas stations aren't making that much profit off the price
increases - except the ones who have a local monopoly. I'd drive
out of my way to avoid getting gas at his stations, too.

There's one gas station out of 9 in our town of 20,000 that
consistently charges 5-10 cents/gallon more than the others. The
funny thing is, it's on the main drag, within half a mile of two
others. I can't understand why anyone would buy gas there -
maybe they think that more expensive is better??? - or how it
manages to stay open.

> I wouldn't mind (as Keera Ann said) if the price of the gas went to
> pay for National Health. Here, the gas prices cover the yachts,
> bonus, perks, etc. of the CEOs of oil companies. Thank goodness that
> the two oilmen in the White House won't be there much longer.

They can't leave soon enough for me! (And that will mean that
this unbelievably long and disgustingly acrimonious election is
FINALLY over.)

FurPaw

--
The plural of anecdote is not proof.

To reply, unleash the dogs

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:53:49 GMT, Jette <bosslady@scotlandmail.com>
wrote:

>maree wrote:
>> Keera, I'm surprised Norwegians pay so much for gas. Doesn't the country
>> produce all its own oil from off shore rigs? That is, that don't have to
>> import? Isn't Norway an oil exporter?
>>
>
>So is the UK.
>
>Most of the price of gas/petrol at the pumps is government tax.

And there are EU rules. The Hetherlands do have natural gas but we
have to follow the international oil-prices.

R

Ratatosk, Jola ( gas is 1,50 euro's per l)
--

If you need to e-mail me, replace "don'tbother" with "zedicus"

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:36:43 +0200, ratatosk
<ratatosk@don'tbother.tweakdsl.nl> wrote:

>The Hetherlands do have natural


Hetherlands? Sounds lovely...where's my map?


Dana©

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:54:13 -0400, Dana© <AneeBear@ownmail.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:36:43 +0200, ratatosk
><ratatosk@don'tbother.tweakdsl.nl> wrote:
>
>>The Hetherlands do have natural
>
>
>Hetherlands? Sounds lovely...where's my map?
>
>
I think faster as i can type and i have a new keyboard ( the enter is
smaller and it is more compact so i miss the keys on a regular basis,
:-) )
I mend? The Netherlands. :-)))

R

ratatosk, Jola
--

If you need to e-mail me, replace "don'tbother" with "zedicus"

In article <t5CdnSEncoY-e4nVRVn_vwA@giganews.com>,
"Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:

> "Priscilla Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:vze23t8n-128DA8.16382527042008@individual.net...
> > In article <9tednatWCucW747V4p2dnAA@giganews.com>,
> > "Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:
> >
> >> > If gas would go high enough to get some sensibly-sized efficient cars
> >> > on
> >> > the US market, I might actually buy one for when I want to go out of
> >> > town to where the buses and trains don't go (any more).
> >> >
> >> > Priscilla
> >>
> >> Well, there are the likes of the (Toyota) Yaris & (Honda) Fit - quite
> >> little
> >> & reasonably fuel efficient.
> >
> > Those are still bigger than I really need.
> >
> > Priscilla
>
> Okay, what about a Smart car?

Looks just about ideal. What's an "automated manual transmission"
though? How can it be automated if it's manual? I learned on a stick,
but I'd rather not have to drive one.

Priscilla

On Apr 26, 6:36 pm, Jette <bossl...@scotlandmail.com> wrote:

>
> Did you know that the original novel of "The Spy Who Loved Me", the
> main character is a young English woman travelling around the US on a
> Vespa? (James Bond doesn't turn up till more than half way through
> the story, and disappears before the end)
>
> --
> Jette Goldie
> je...@blueyonder.co.ukhttp://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/http://wolfette.livejournal.com/
> ("reply to" is spamblocked - use the email addy in sig)

did not know that. can't imagine traveling too far around here on a
vespa, even when not dancing on the handlebars. not only due to the
land use patterns, but also due to the still high number of enormous
vehicles. still makes driving little things kind of scary.

ellen

On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:58:13 +0200, ratatosk
<ratatosk@don'tbother.tweakdsl.nl> wrote:

>I think faster as i can type and i have a new keyboard ( the enter is
>smaller and it is more compact so i miss the keys on a regular basis,
>:-) )
>I mend? The Netherlands. :-)))

I know what you meant, I just wanted to poke fun, I'm mean like that!
You do very well, English is my only language and I couldn't exist
without spell check. LOL.

Dana©

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

"Priscilla Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:vze23t8n-352E75.00143429042008@individual.net...
> In article <t5CdnSEncoY-e4nVRVn_vwA@giganews.com>,
> "Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:
>
>> "Priscilla Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:vze23t8n-128DA8.16382527042008@individual.net...
>> > In article <9tednatWCucW747V4p2dnAA@giganews.com>,
>> > "Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wro