[OT] Speaking of housekeeping...[was Bye-bye to the 5s]

This appeared in the NY Times this week:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/01/health/01well.html
A Clutter Too Deep for Mere Bins and Shelves

The discussion ranges from getting organized to compulsive
clutter, and mentions a link to this scale to assess your own
clutter:
http://www.nsgcd.org/resources/clutt...rdingscale.pdf

Look at it and you'll probably feel much better about your
clutter. Most of my sins didn't even make the second level (out
of 5), and only one made the third (excessive dust - in some
rooms). Level 5 included things like:
- Pets dangerous to occupants and/or guests
- Rodents evident and in sight
- Kitchen and bathroom unusable due to clutter
- Client sleeping elsewhere as house is not livable
- Human defecation
- Rotting food

Phew! I'm just a garden variety slob, not a slob on an epic
scale. ;-P

FurPaw

--
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense
a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,
those who are cold and are not clothed."
- Dwight D. Eisenhower

To reply, unleash the dogs.

On Jan 4, 7:41 pm, FurPaw <furrealpaw...@gmaildog.com> wrote:
> This appeared in the NY Times this week:http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/01/health/01well.html
> A Clutter Too Deep for Mere Bins and Shelves
>
> The discussion ranges from getting organized to compulsive
> clutter, and mentions a link to this scale to assess your own
> clutter:http://www.nsgcd.org/resources/clutt...cd_clutterhoar...
>
> Look at it and you'll probably feel much better about your
> clutter. Most of my sins didn't even make the second level (out
> of 5), and only one made the third (excessive dust - in some
> rooms). Level 5 included things like:
> - Pets dangerous to occupants and/or guests
> - Rodents evident and in sight
> - Kitchen and bathroom unusable due to clutter
> - Client sleeping elsewhere as house is not livable
> - Human defecation
> - Rotting food
>
> Phew! I'm just a garden variety slob, not a slob on an epic
> scale. ;-P
>
> FurPaw
>
> --
> "Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
> every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense
> a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,
> those who are cold and are not clothed."
> - Dwight D. Eisenhower
>
> To reply, unleash the dogs.

thanks furpaw, that was reassuring... some of the criteria was
interesting -i wonder what exactly constitutes medium spiderwebs?

all this cleaning talk made me go clean the bathroom sink. it was
spurred on as well by the fact that dh dropped his shirt in the toilet
& then rinsed it in the sink.

ellen

On Jan 4, 9:48 pm, ellen <epdps...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 4, 7:41 pm, FurPaw <furrealpaw...@gmaildog.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > This appeared in the NY Times this week:http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/01/health/01well.html
> > A Clutter Too Deep for Mere Bins and Shelves
>
> > The discussion ranges from getting organized to compulsive
> > clutter, and mentions a link to this scale to assess your own
> > clutter:http://www.nsgcd.org/resources/clutt...cd_clutterhoar...
>
> > Look at it and you'll probably feel much better about your
> > clutter. Most of my sins didn't even make the second level (out
> > of 5), and only one made the third (excessive dust - in some
> > rooms). Level 5 included things like:
> > - Pets dangerous to occupants and/or guests
> > - Rodents evident and in sight
> > - Kitchen and bathroom unusable due to clutter
> > - Client sleeping elsewhere as house is not livable
> > - Human defecation
> > - Rotting food
>
> > Phew! I'm just a garden variety slob, not a slob on an epic
> > scale. ;-P
>
> > FurPaw
>
> > --
> > "Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
> > every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense
> > a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,
> > those who are cold and are not clothed."
> > - Dwight D. Eisenhower
>
> > To reply, unleash the dogs.
>
> thanks furpaw, that was reassuring... some of the criteria was
> interesting -i wonder what exactly constitutes medium spiderwebs?
>
> all this cleaning talk made me go clean the bathroom sink. it was
> spurred on as well by the fact that dh dropped his shirt in the toilet
> & then rinsed it in the sink.
>
> ellen

aaggghh -some were interesting...

FurPaw <furrealpawdog@gmaildog.com> wrote:

> This appeared in the NY Times this week:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/01/health/01well.html
> A Clutter Too Deep for Mere Bins and Shelves
>
> The discussion ranges from getting organized to compulsive
> clutter, and mentions a link to this scale to assess your own
> clutter:
>
http://www.nsgcd.org/resources/clutt...clutterhoardin
gscale.pdf
>
> Look at it and you'll probably feel much better about your
> clutter. Most of my sins didn't even make the second level (out
> of 5), and only one made the third (excessive dust - in some
> rooms). Level 5 included things like:
> - Pets dangerous to occupants and/or guests
> - Rodents evident and in sight
> - Kitchen and bathroom unusable due to clutter
> - Client sleeping elsewhere as house is not livable
> - Human defecation
> - Rotting food
>
> Phew! I'm just a garden variety slob, not a slob on an epic
> scale. ;-P

So am I, but a few close calls sent me looking for help, and that's how
I tripped over FlyLady.

One close call was an incident with bugs - in my bedroom! Under a pile
of laundry on the floor, I discovered a dozen bugs of the type that
usually invade flour (from what I could tell). I vacuumed like crazy,
washed all those clothes, and learned not to pile clothes on floor any
more. I have never seen those bugs again, but am still baffled as to how
they happened to be under my clothes in my bedroom.

--
Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
http://home.online.no/~kafox/

ellen wrote:

> all this cleaning talk made me go clean the bathroom sink. it was
> spurred on as well by the fact that dh dropped his shirt in the toilet
> & then rinsed it in the sink.
>
> ellen


This made me laugh *so hard* that DH came over to see
what i was getting hysterical about!

DH is a Virgo. The very picture of him doing such a thing....

He stood here furrowing his brow, saying, "Who would do
that?? Ask her if he's an Aries."

Now, even i wanna know!

--
pax,
ruth


Save trees AND money! Buy used books!
http://stores.ebay.com/Noir-and-More-Books-and-Trains

In article <1ia8jxv.o850hi1wxyqooN%thinkbig.shrinktofit@onlin e.no>,
thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no (Keera Ann Fox) wrote:

> One close call was an incident with bugs - in my bedroom! Under a pile
> of laundry on the floor, I discovered a dozen bugs of the type that
> usually invade flour (from what I could tell). I vacuumed like crazy,
> washed all those clothes, and learned not to pile clothes on floor any
> more. I have never seen those bugs again, but am still baffled as to how
> they happened to be under my clothes in my bedroom.

There's a clothing moth that looks a lot like the meal moth. So I think
I'd not be so hard on myself, if I were you. ;-)

Priscilla

ellen wrote:

> thanks furpaw, that was reassuring... some of the criteria was
> interesting -i wonder what exactly constitutes medium spiderwebs?

I don't know... maybe 'light' is when they reside in a few
ceiling corners, 'medium' when they're creeping down the walls,
and 'heavy' when you can't walk down a hall without knocking them
aside?

> all this cleaning talk made me go clean the bathroom sink. it was
> spurred on as well by the fact that dh dropped his shirt in the toilet
> & then rinsed it in the sink.

ROFL! I probably would have made Hubster do it... although he
might have used the shirt to wipe out the sink...

FurPaw


--
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense
a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,
those who are cold and are not clothed."
- Dwight D. Eisenhower

To reply, unleash the dogs.

Priscilla Ballou <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote:

> In article <1ia8jxv.o850hi1wxyqooN%thinkbig.shrinktofit@onlin e.no>,
> thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no (Keera Ann Fox) wrote:
>
> > One close call was an incident with bugs - in my bedroom! Under a pile
> > of laundry on the floor, I discovered a dozen bugs of the type that
> > usually invade flour (from what I could tell). I vacuumed like crazy,
> > washed all those clothes, and learned not to pile clothes on floor any
> > more. I have never seen those bugs again, but am still baffled as to how
> > they happened to be under my clothes in my bedroom.
>
> There's a clothing moth that looks a lot like the meal moth. So I think
> I'd not be so hard on myself, if I were you. ;-)

Yes, I thought it may be those (I had found those in a wool sweater as a
kid), but none of the garments contained wool. Do they attack other
fibers?

--
Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
http://home.online.no/~kafox/

On Jan 5, 10:30 am, nickelshrink <nickelshr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ellen wrote:
> > all this cleaning talk made me go clean the bathroom sink. it was
> > spurred on as well by the fact that dh dropped his shirt in the toilet
> > & then rinsed it in the sink.
>
> > ellen
>
> This made me laugh *so hard* that DH came over to see
> what i was getting hysterical about!
>
> DH is a Virgo. The very picture of him doing such a thing....
>
> He stood here furrowing his brow, saying, "Who would do
> that?? Ask her if he's an Aries."
>
> Now, even i wanna know!
>
> --
> pax,
> ruth
>
> Save trees AND money! Buy used books!http://stores.ebay.com/Noir-and-More-Books-and-Trains

ours is not to wonder why..... i can tell you that he is an aquarius,
if that explains anything.

this particular incident didn't even phase me. i long ago stopped
trying to understand & he has made adjustments, though i'm not sure he
understands my pov (& really he'd rather not hear the explanation).
when we were 1st married, he was doing some plumbing work in the
bathroom. i wandered in while he had momentarily stepped out, drank a
glass of water from the cup on the sink, & left the room. shortly
thereafter he yelled to me 'you didn't use that drinking glass did
you?' of course he had used the bathroom water glass to bail out the
water from the toilet & returned it to its original spot.

he's brilliant in alot of ways & it's not like he was raised by wild
gerbils or anything. & he is very cute, although that wouldn't help
him if he persisted with the type of activities described above.

the funnier part about the dropped shirt was that i had just dreamed
the previous night that he was shoving shirts into the toilet. i got
up & thought 'what in the world was that dream about?'

ellen

In article <1ia99jb.1cua281nkgt5qN%thinkbig.shrinktofit@onlin e.no>,
thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no (Keera Ann Fox) wrote:

> Priscilla Ballou <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > In article <1ia8jxv.o850hi1wxyqooN%thinkbig.shrinktofit@onlin e.no>,
> > thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no (Keera Ann Fox) wrote:
> >
> > > One close call was an incident with bugs - in my bedroom! Under a pile
> > > of laundry on the floor, I discovered a dozen bugs of the type that
> > > usually invade flour (from what I could tell). I vacuumed like crazy,
> > > washed all those clothes, and learned not to pile clothes on floor any
> > > more. I have never seen those bugs again, but am still baffled as to how
> > > they happened to be under my clothes in my bedroom.
> >
> > There's a clothing moth that looks a lot like the meal moth. So I think
> > I'd not be so hard on myself, if I were you. ;-)
>
> Yes, I thought it may be those (I had found those in a wool sweater as a
> kid), but none of the garments contained wool. Do they attack other
> fibers?

Who knows? When times are hard and wool is in short supply.....

Priscilla

Priscilla Ballou <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote:

> In article <1ia99jb.1cua281nkgt5qN%thinkbig.shrinktofit@onlin e.no>,
> thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no (Keera Ann Fox) wrote:
>
> > Priscilla Ballou <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <1ia8jxv.o850hi1wxyqooN%thinkbig.shrinktofit@onlin e.no>,
> > > thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no (Keera Ann Fox) wrote:
> > >
> > > > One close call was an incident with bugs - in my bedroom! Under a pile
> > > > of laundry on the floor, I discovered a dozen bugs of the type that
> > > > usually invade flour (from what I could tell). I vacuumed like crazy,
> > > > washed all those clothes, and learned not to pile clothes on floor any
> > > > more. I have never seen those bugs again, but am still baffled as to how
> > > > they happened to be under my clothes in my bedroom.
> > >
> > > There's a clothing moth that looks a lot like the meal moth. So I think
> > > I'd not be so hard on myself, if I were you. ;-)
> >
> > Yes, I thought it may be those (I had found those in a wool sweater as a
> > kid), but none of the garments contained wool. Do they attack other
> > fibers?
>
> Who knows? When times are hard and wool is in short supply.....

Sheesh. They come to _my_ place? The poor, lost, brain-dead little ones.
Had they lived long enough, they would have had one heck of a story to
tell! ;-)

--
Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
http://home.online.no/~kafox/

On Jan 6, 8:54*am, thinkbig.shrinkto...@online.no (Keera Ann Fox)
wrote:
> Priscilla Ballou <vze23...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > In article <1ia99jb.1cua281nkgt5qN%thinkbig.shrinkto...@onlin e.no>,
> > *thinkbig.shrinkto...@online.no (Keera Ann Fox) wrote:
>
> > > Priscilla Ballou <vze23...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > > In article <1ia8jxv.o850hi1wxyqooN%thinkbig.shrinkto...@onlin e.no>,
> > > > *thinkbig.shrinkto...@online.no (Keera Ann Fox) wrote:
>
> > > > > One close call was an incident with bugs - in my bedroom! Under a pile
> > > > > of laundry on the floor, I discovered a dozen bugs of the type that
> > > > > usually invade flour (from what I could tell). I vacuumed like crazy,
> > > > > washed all those clothes, and learned not to pile clothes on floorany
> > > > > more. I have never seen those bugs again, but am still baffled as to how
> > > > > they happened to be under my clothes in my bedroom.
>
> > > > There's a clothing moth that looks a lot like the meal moth. *So Ithink
> > > > I'd not be so hard on myself, if I were you. *;-)
>
> > > Yes, I thought it may be those (I had found those in a wool sweater asa
> > > kid), but none of the garments contained wool. Do they attack other
> > > fibers?
>
> > Who knows? *When times are hard and wool is in short supply.....
>
> Sheesh. They come to _my_ place? The poor, lost, brain-dead little ones.
> Had they lived long enough, they would have had one heck of a story to
> tell! ;-)
>
> --
> Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.http://home.online.no/~kafox/- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

When you grow up with the King of Clutter, you develop a phobia for
it. My dad's obsessive-compulsive hoarding disorder has resulted in
hundreds of pieces of property, most worthless, some covered with
impromptu 3-story buildings, dozens of junk cars, rooms stacked with
cans of paint, hundreds of appliances large and small--a complete list
would be longer than Atlas Shrugged. I nag about few things, but
Hublet's love for old building materials qualifies.
Les