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Old 07-19-2008, 07:24 PM
Keera Ann Fox
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fortunata <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Keera Ann Fox" <thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no> wrote in message
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> > fortunata <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It has nothing to do with phrases, only with prepositions. "Between" is
> >> used
> >> when there are two things; "among" is for more than two.
> >>
> >> Not terribly complicated.

> >
> > Oh, is that the difference. I wasn't aware. Thanks!

>
> aren't you sweet?


And you're right. Not terribly complicated.

> anyway, most people in the U.S. don't use those "right" anyway. I wish I
> spoke Norwegian.


So you can order lutefisk like a native? ;-)

> I do speak a little Icelandic but I know that's not relevant!


It's always fun to know another language. There are still some
similarities between the two languages, but not enough to glean meaning
from whole texts, just from individual words. It amuses me that my
knowledge of Norwegian and English lets me read Dutch and get the
general gist of it.

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Old 07-20-2008, 12:00 AM
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> It's always fun to know another language.

my brother the linguist speaks 9 fluently and "knows" about 90 of them. It's
a sickness (there's actually a medical term for it). but he definitely gets
around in the world!

There are still some
> similarities between the two languages, but not enough to glean meaning
> from whole texts, just from individual words.


I know.

It amuses me that my
> knowledge of Norwegian and English lets me read Dutch and get the
> general gist of it.


Danish?
>
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> Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
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Old 07-20-2008, 12:00 AM
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I agree! No one uses "lend"!

but what about..."hopefully"? or "Momentarily"...or

"Keera Ann Fox" <thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no> wrote in message
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> fortunata <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> or (sigh) "lay" and "lie." (let alone, shudder, "laid" and "lain.")

>
> My beef is "loan" when they really should be using "lend".
>
> --
> Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
> http://home.online.no/~kafox/



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Old 07-20-2008, 03:24 AM
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I confess to still, no matter what, having trouble sometimes (not always -
but no, that's not what I mean! ;-P) distinguishing between "lay" & "lie".

However, how about "aggravate" when "irritate" is what's called for?

Cathy


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> or (sigh) "lay" and "lie." (let alone, shudder, "laid" and "lain.")
>
> "Jette" <bosslady@scotlandmail.com> wrote in message
> news:d_1gk.29151$E41.23264@text.news.virginmedia.c om...
>> fortunata wrote:
>>> It has nothing to do with phrases, only with prepositions. "Between" is
>>> used when there are two things; "among" is for more than two.
>>>
>>> Not terribly complicated.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> meh- maybe not, but seems to be too complicated for many people. Many
>> supposedly intelligent, educated people, including lawyers.
>>
>> My job (well, until my job - I got promoted and start a new job on
>> Monday! <g>) is registering transfers of land/house/property ownership
>> here in Scotland. There's a "destination" in Scots law that's very
>> useful for when property is being disponed to two or more people, called
>> the "survivorship clause". Basically the clause /should/ state "equally
>> between them and to the survivor of them" if it is two persons, or
>> "equally among them and to the survivor or survivors of them" when it's
>> three or more.
>>
>> Wanna guess how many LAWYERS use the first version for cases where there
>> are three or more?
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> (and sometimes they can't tell the difference between "affect" and
>> "effect" either <g>)
>>
>> --
>> Jette Goldie
>> jette@blueyonder.co.uk
>> http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
>> http://wolfette.livejournal.com/
>> ("reply to" is spamblocked - use the email addy in sig)

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Old 07-20-2008, 01:45 PM
Keera Ann Fox
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pumpkin <billowroad@att.net> wrote:

> I agree! No one uses "lend"!
>
> but what about..."hopefully"? or "Momentarily"...or


Don't ask me. I don't see the problem there. :-)

> "Keera Ann Fox" <thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no> wrote in message
> news:1ikce3y.1bsa2ty1435z4aN%thinkbig.shrinktofit@ online.no...
> > fortunata <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> or (sigh) "lay" and "lie." (let alone, shudder, "laid" and "lain.")

> >
> > My beef is "loan" when they really should be using "lend".



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Old 07-20-2008, 01:45 PM
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pumpkin <billowroad@att.net> wrote:

> Danish?


Danish and Norwegian shared a common orthography for so many centuries,
that written Danish is not a problem (that sharing is the reason why
19th century Norway sought a written language based on Norwegian
dialects rather than one's university education in Copenhagen, so now
there are two official written Norwegian languages). There are some
words that don't "match" but too few to make it a problem. Spoken
Danish, however, is very hard to understand; Danes seem to speak without
using any consonants, usually described as speaking with a potato stuck
in their throat. Like most Norwegians, I find that spoken Swedish is
easier to understand than spoken Danish, and can read Swedish, too, if
not as easily as Danish.

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Old 07-20-2008, 06:55 PM
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and how about "fiance" when the person is a woman!? just saw that again
today, and "bicep" (sic) argh....


"Keera Ann Fox" <thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no> wrote in message
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> pumpkin <billowroad@att.net> wrote:
>
>> I agree! No one uses "lend"!
>>
>> but what about..."hopefully"? or "Momentarily"...or

>
> Don't ask me. I don't see the problem there. :-)
>
>> "Keera Ann Fox" <thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no> wrote in message
>> news:1ikce3y.1bsa2ty1435z4aN%thinkbig.shrinktofit@ online.no...
>> > fortunata <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> or (sigh) "lay" and "lie." (let alone, shudder, "laid" and "lain.")
>> >
>> > My beef is "loan" when they really should be using "lend".

>
>
> --
> Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
> http://home.online.no/~kafox/



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Old 07-20-2008, 06:55 PM
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pumpkin <billowroad@att.net> wrote:

> and how about "fiance" when the person is a woman!? just saw that again
> today, and "bicep" (sic) argh....


I don't know any French or Latin, so I'm spared those arghs. :-) I've
always thought of the double-e version of fiancé as a typo or variant
spelling, partly because I see it so rarely.

I started to relax a bit about some of the (annoying) changes in
language after reading that language is a virus. It keeps adapting to
its hosts and spreading, whether you want it to or not. After digesting
that a bit, I decided it would be more amusing to watch the virus than
to grind my teeth down.

> "Keera Ann Fox" <thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no> wrote in message
> news:1ikdut4.1yifcaj13udn8mN%thinkbig.shrinktofit@ online.no...
> > pumpkin <billowroad@att.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I agree! No one uses "lend"!
> >>
> >> but what about..."hopefully"? or "Momentarily"...or

> >
> > Don't ask me. I don't see the problem there. :-)
> >
> >> "Keera Ann Fox" <thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no> wrote in message
> >> news:1ikce3y.1bsa2ty1435z4aN%thinkbig.shrinktofit@ online.no...
> >> > fortunata <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> or (sigh) "lay" and "lie." (let alone, shudder, "laid" and "lain.")
> >> >
> >> > My beef is "loan" when they really should be using "lend".

> >
> >
> > --
> > Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
> > http://home.online.no/~kafox/



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Old 07-20-2008, 09:56 PM
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Keera Ann Fox wrote:

> I started to relax a bit about some of the (annoying) changes in
> language after reading that language is a virus. It keeps adapting to
> its hosts and spreading, whether you want it to or not. After digesting
> that a bit, I decided it would be more amusing to watch the virus than
> to grind my teeth down.


That's a useful perspective. Language has to evolve to accept
new concepts. (How would you describe a telephone with the words
that were available in 1800?) We certainly don't speak or spell
the way they did 300 years ago. Most aspects of the "virus"
don't bother me, and many are very interesting, but it still sets
my teeth on edge when I hear things like realtor pronounced
"ree-la-ter," nuclear as "noo-cue-ler" (as Bush does regularly)
and library as "li-bary" (I just heard a well-known newscaster
do that twice in five minutes; the first time I wasn't sure I'd
heard him correctly).

FurPaw
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Old 07-21-2008, 12:13 AM
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language is definitely an organism, and it evolves according to usage. If
people use an "incorrect" phrase, the phrase becomes "correct." American
don't pronounce "lingerie" as the French do, so the "incorrect"
pronunciation (which drives me nuts) is the American way. Most residents of
Baton Rouge don't pronounce that city's name the way the French do either.
And look at surnames; the way the family says it, is the way it is, period!
No matter the logic!

"Keera Ann Fox" <thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no> wrote in message
news:1ike7jn.1m1aaojh381cbN%thinkbig.shrinktofit@o nline.no...
> pumpkin <billowroad@att.net> wrote:
>
>> and how about "fiance" when the person is a woman!? just saw that again
>> today, and "bicep" (sic) argh....

>
> I don't know any French or Latin, so I'm spared those arghs. :-) I've
> always thought of the double-e version of fiancé as a typo or variant
> spelling, partly because I see it so rarely.
>
> I started to relax a bit about some of the (annoying) changes in
> language after reading that language is a virus. It keeps adapting to
> its hosts and spreading, whether you want it to or not. After digesting
> that a bit, I decided it would be more amusing to watch the virus than
> to grind my teeth down.
>
>> "Keera Ann Fox" <thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no> wrote in message
>> news:1ikdut4.1yifcaj13udn8mN%thinkbig.shrinktofit@ online.no...
>> > pumpkin <billowroad@att.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I agree! No one uses "lend"!
>> >>
>> >> but what about..."hopefully"? or "Momentarily"...or
>> >
>> > Don't ask me. I don't see the problem there. :-)
>> >
>> >> "Keera Ann Fox" <thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no> wrote in message
>> >> news:1ikce3y.1bsa2ty1435z4aN%thinkbig.shrinktofit@ online.no...
>> >> > fortunata <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> or (sigh) "lay" and "lie." (let alone, shudder, "laid" and "lain.")
>> >> >
>> >> > My beef is "loan" when they really should be using "lend".
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
>> > http://home.online.no/~kafox/

>
>
> --
> Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
> http://home.online.no/~kafox/



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Old 07-21-2008, 12:13 AM
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how about Febuary? :-)

there is no excuse for "Nucyuler." none. the guy should be caned.

as for real-uh-tor, not only do realtors themselves say it wrong, but I
actually say a huge sign that said "Wixler Reality" and no, it wasn't
talking about things that are real, it was a real estate firm that
apparently didn't know how to spell its own name!

"FurPaw" <furrealpawdog@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Keera Ann Fox wrote:
>
>> I started to relax a bit about some of the (annoying) changes in
>> language after reading that language is a virus. It keeps adapting to
>> its hosts and spreading, whether you want it to or not. After digesting
>> that a bit, I decided it would be more amusing to watch the virus than
>> to grind my teeth down.

>
> That's a useful perspective. Language has to evolve to accept new
> concepts. (How would you describe a telephone with the words that were
> available in 1800?) We certainly don't speak or spell the way they did
> 300 years ago. Most aspects of the "virus" don't bother me, and many are
> very interesting, but it still sets my teeth on edge when I hear things
> like realtor pronounced "ree-la-ter," nuclear as "noo-cue-ler" (as Bush
> does regularly) and library as "li-bary" (I just heard a well-known
> newscaster do that twice in five minutes; the first time I wasn't sure I'd
> heard him correctly).
>
> FurPaw
> --
> The plural of anecdote is not proof.
>
> To reply, unleash the dog.



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Old 07-21-2008, 12:13 AM
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fortunata <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote:

> how about Febuary? :-)


I have never pronounced it any other way, and I can't recall hearing
anyone pronounce it February.

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Old 07-21-2008, 12:13 AM
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Another annoyance. Although IMO "libary" is worse, since it's easier to
pronounce the "r" in library than the corresponding one in February - which
tends to get a little 'lost' among the syllables.

Cathy


"fortunata" <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> how about Febuary? :-)
>
> there is no excuse for "Nucyuler." none. the guy should be caned.
>
> as for real-uh-tor, not only do realtors themselves say it wrong, but I
> actually say a huge sign that said "Wixler Reality" and no, it wasn't
> talking about things that are real, it was a real estate firm that
> apparently didn't know how to spell its own name!
>
> "FurPaw" <furrealpawdog@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:AcOdnS7eauXnOB7VnZ2dnUVZ_qfinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Keera Ann Fox wrote:
>>
>>> I started to relax a bit about some of the (annoying) changes in
>>> language after reading that language is a virus. It keeps adapting to
>>> its hosts and spreading, whether you want it to or not. After digesting
>>> that a bit, I decided it would be more amusing to watch the virus than
>>> to grind my teeth down.

>>
>> That's a useful perspective. Language has to evolve to accept new
>> concepts. (How would you describe a telephone with the words that were
>> available in 1800?) We certainly don't speak or spell the way they did
>> 300 years ago. Most aspects of the "virus" don't bother me, and many are
>> very interesting, but it still sets my teeth on edge when I hear things
>> like realtor pronounced "ree-la-ter," nuclear as "noo-cue-ler" (as Bush
>> does regularly) and library as "li-bary" (I just heard a well-known
>> newscaster do that twice in five minutes; the first time I wasn't sure
>> I'd heard him correctly).
>>
>> FurPaw
>> --
>> The plural of anecdote is not proof.
>>
>> To reply, unleash the dog.

>
>



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Old 07-21-2008, 03:07 AM
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On Jul 18, 12:18 pm, Jette <bossl...@scotlandmail.com> wrote:
> FurPaw wrote:
> > Jette wrote:

>
> >> My job (well, until my job - I got promoted and start a new job on
> >> Monday!

>
> > Congratulations! What is your new job?

>
> Moving to "Customer Services" - I'll be dealing directly with said
> lawyers at the CS desk in a different office. Nice pay rise too.
>
> --
> Jette Goldie
> je...@blueyonder.co.ukhttp://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/http://wolfette.livejournal.com/
> ("reply to" is spamblocked - use the email addy in sig)


great news, jette. congratulations!
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Old 07-21-2008, 03:07 AM
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language mangling used to irritate me to no end. now there are far
too many days where all cognitive areas of my brain come to grinding
halts or jump to the wrong synapses. i transpose letters, forget
spelling (& words), create my own words, can't access words, forget
all grammar & sentence construction. & so on.

i trust that you will all continue to overlook my various
transgressions in this realm. i still fully blame it on the neuro-
endo issues & sure hope that some day i may regain my brain.

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Old 07-21-2008, 03:07 AM
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"ellen" <epdpster@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> language mangling used to irritate me to no end. now there are far
> too many days where all cognitive areas of my brain come to grinding
> halts or jump to the wrong synapses. i transpose letters, forget
> spelling (& words), create my own words, can't access words,


All of these also happen to me (mostly esp. the last listed) - & I suspect
most others who are 45-50 or older - quite frequently.

forget
> all grammar & sentence construction. & so on.
>
> i trust that you will all continue to overlook my various
> transgressions in this realm. i still fully blame it on the neuro-
> endo issues & sure hope that some day i may regain my brain.


Hey, you can still rhyme well! ;-)

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Old 07-21-2008, 03:07 AM
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"Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote in message
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>
> "ellen" <epdpster@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6885644b-67b2-4e6f-8f3b-f83b082e8e16@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
>> language mangling used to irritate me to no end. now there are far
>> too many days where all cognitive areas of my brain come to grinding
>> halts or jump to the wrong synapses. i transpose letters, forget
>> spelling (& words), create my own words, can't access words,

>
> All of these also happen to me (mostly esp. the last listed) - & I suspect
> most others who are 45-50 or older - quite frequently.


Heh - looking up at what I just typed ("mostly esp."), & then looking down -
where you listed sentence construction... ;-)

Cathy


>
> forget
>> all grammar & sentence construction. & so on.
>>
>> i trust that you will all continue to overlook my various
>> transgressions in this realm. i still fully blame it on the neuro-
>> endo issues & sure hope that some day i may regain my brain.

>
> Hey, you can still rhyme well! ;-)
>
> Cathy
>
>
>



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Old 07-21-2008, 06:19 PM
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Keera Ann Fox wrote:
> fortunata <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> how about Febuary? :-)

>
> I have never pronounced it any other way, and I can't recall hearing
> anyone pronounce it February.
>


You'd hear it that way in Scotland - but the letter R is quite
important to us <g>.

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Old 07-21-2008, 08:44 PM
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"Jette" <bosslady@scotlandmail.com> wrote in message
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> Keera Ann Fox wrote:
>> fortunata <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> how about Febuary? :-)

>>
>> I have never pronounced it any other way, and I can't recall hearing
>> anyone pronounce it February.
>>

>
> You'd hear it that way in Scotland - but the letter R is quite important
> to us <g>.


Okay - going back to those extra British "u"s - how about catalogue!? ;-P

Cathy




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Old 07-21-2008, 08:44 PM
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Cathy F. wrote:
> "Jette" <bosslady@scotlandmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Af4hk.30665$E41.27526@text.news.virginmedia.c om...
>> Keera Ann Fox wrote:
>>> fortunata <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> how about Febuary? :-)
>>> I have never pronounced it any other way, and I can't recall hearing
>>> anyone pronounce it February.
>>>

>> You'd hear it that way in Scotland - but the letter R is quite important
>> to us <g>.

>
> Okay - going back to those extra British "u"s - how about catalogue!? ;-P
>


What "extra" U ?


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Old 07-21-2008, 08:44 PM
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Jette wrote:
> Cathy F. wrote:
>> "Jette" <bosslady@scotlandmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Af4hk.30665$E41.27526@text.news.virginmedia.c om...
>>> Keera Ann Fox wrote:
>>>> fortunata <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> how about Febuary? :-)
>>>> I have never pronounced it any other way, and I can't recall hearing
>>>> anyone pronounce it February.
>>>>
>>> You'd hear it that way in Scotland - but the letter R is quite
>>> important to us <g>.

>>
>> Okay - going back to those extra British "u"s - how about catalogue!? ;-P
>>

>
> What "extra" U ?


Analog, catalog, dialog.

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Old 07-21-2008, 08:44 PM
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"FurPaw" <furrealpawdog@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Jette wrote:
>> Cathy F. wrote:


>>> Okay - going back to those extra British "u"s - how about catalogue!?
>>> ;-P
>>>

>>
>> What "extra" U ?

>
> Analog, catalog, dialog.


Huh - I think, for some reason (what?), I've always spelled dialogue with
the "ue". But never for analog. Catalog - sometimes, sometimes not...

Cathy




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Old 07-21-2008, 08:44 PM
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FurPaw wrote:
> Jette wrote:
>> Cathy F. wrote:
>>> "Jette" <bosslady@scotlandmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Af4hk.30665$E41.27526@text.news.virginmedia.c om...
>>>> Keera Ann Fox wrote:
>>>>> fortunata <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> how about Febuary? :-)
>>>>> I have never pronounced it any other way, and I can't recall hearing
>>>>> anyone pronounce it February.
>>>>>
>>>> You'd hear it that way in Scotland - but the letter R is quite
>>>> important to us <g>.
>>>
>>> Okay - going back to those extra British "u"s - how about catalogue!?
>>> ;-P
>>>

>>
>> What "extra" U ?

>
> Analog, catalog, dialog.
>


My spell checker says "analogue, catalogue and dialogue" - yours must
be wonky ;-)


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Old 07-21-2008, 08:44 PM
Cathy F.
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"Jette" <bosslady@scotlandmail.com> wrote in message
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> FurPaw wrote:
>> Jette wrote:
>>> Cathy F. wrote:
>>>> "Jette" <bosslady@scotlandmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Af4hk.30665$E41.27526@text.news.virginmedia.c om...
>>>>> Keera Ann Fox wrote:
>>>>>> fortunata <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> how about Febuary? :-)
>>>>>> I have never pronounced it any other way, and I can't recall hearing
>>>>>> anyone pronounce it February.
>>>>>>
>>>>> You'd hear it that way in Scotland - but the letter R is quite
>>>>> important to us <g>.
>>>>
>>>> Okay - going back to those extra British "u"s - how about catalogue!?
>>>> ;-P
>>>>
>>>
>>> What "extra" U ?

>>
>> Analog, catalog, dialog.
>>

>
> My spell checker says "analogue, catalogue and dialogue" - yours must be
> wonky ;-)


Yeah, but... they're not there to change the sound of the "o", are they?
They're just... there. ;-)

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I have never said it any way but FebRUary. and "LIBRARY" is always library.

come to think of it, I don't know anyone who says "feb-oo-ary."
not a one.

but lots of people mispronounce flaccid. and short-lived.
"Jette" <bosslady@scotlandmail.com> wrote in message
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> Keera Ann Fox wrote:
>> fortunata <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> how about Febuary? :-)

>>
>> I have never pronounced it any other way, and I can't recall hearing
>> anyone pronounce it February.
>>

>
> You'd hear it that way in Scotland - but the letter R is quite important
> to us <g>.
>
> --
> Jette Goldie
> jette@blueyonder.co.uk
> http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
> http://wolfette.livejournal.com/
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"Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote in message
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> "FurPaw" <furrealpawdog@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Jette wrote:
>>> Cathy F. wrote:

>
>>>> Okay - going back to those extra British "u"s - how about catalogue!?
>>>> ;-P
>>>>
>>>
>>> What "extra" U ?

>>
>> Analog, catalog, dialog.

>
> Huh - I think, for some reason (what?), I've always spelled dialogue with
> the "ue". But never for analog. Catalog - sometimes, sometimes not...

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Are you a pedagog, then?

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"fortunata" <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> ...lots of people mispronounce flaccid....

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How do they mispronounce it? Like flaxseed? (I work in healthcare, so I
never hear anyone mispronounce it.)

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"Eva" <EvaDStructionNO@NOverizon.net> wrote in message
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> "Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> "FurPaw" <furrealpawdog@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> newscGdnUqtIbvfdxnVnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> Jette wrote:
>>>> Cathy F. wrote:

>>
>>>>> Okay - going back to those extra British "u"s - how about catalogue!?
>>>>> ;-P
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What "extra" U ?
>>>
>>> Analog, catalog, dialog.

>>
>> Huh - I think, for some reason (what?), I've always spelled dialogue with
>> the "ue". But never for analog. Catalog - sometimes, sometimes not...

> -----------------
> Are you a pedagog, then?


;-) Probably to some degree. Hopefully not overly so!

But when I get going with a monolog(ue)...

Cathy


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Eva wrote:
> "Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote in message
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>> "FurPaw" <furrealpawdog@gmail.com> wrote in message


>>> Analog, catalog, dialog.

>> Huh - I think, for some reason (what?), I've always spelled dialogue with
>> the "ue". But never for analog. Catalog - sometimes, sometimes not...

> -----------------
> Are you a pedagog, then?


Funny - I'd never seen pedagogue spelled without the the ue. But
it is considered an acceptable spelling by Merriam Webster.

Then there's demagog, travelog, synagog.

Deleting the ue from apologue hasn't caught on ... or tongue, or
league, or plague, or colleague, or fugue, or fatigue, or argue

wait! here's one that's even relevant to this newsgroup:

emmenagogue

<pharmacology> A medicine that promotes the menstrual discharge.

Who knew!

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Eva wrote:
> "fortunata" <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6g8hk.129422$102.116776@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> ...lots of people mispronounce flaccid....

> --------------
> How do they mispronounce it? Like flaxseed? (I work in healthcare, soI
> never hear anyone mispronounce it.)


Pronunciation:
\ˈfla-səd also ˈflak-səd\ (flassid or flaksid, if the schwa
gets clobbered)

I don't remember hearing it any way but "flassid".

FurPaw



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Old 07-22-2008, 10:49 PM
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fortunata <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have never said it any way but FebRUary. and "LIBRARY" is always library.
>
> come to think of it, I don't know anyone who says "feb-oo-ary."
> not a one.


You still don't. ;-) I pronounce it feb-you-ary.

Oddly, I do say all the R's in the Norwegian version - "februar". I
guess nobody in my (English-speaking) family ever said feb-rue-ary.

> but lots of people mispronounce flaccid. and short-lived.
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> > Keera Ann Fox wrote:
> >> fortunata <pacifist@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> how about Febuary? :-)
> >>
> >> I have never pronounced it any other way, and I can't recall hearing
> >> anyone pronounce it February.
> >>

> >
> > You'd hear it that way in Scotland - but the letter R is quite important
> > to us <g>.
> >
> > --
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> > jette@blueyonder.co.uk
> > http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
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Old 07-23-2008, 10:51 PM
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"FurPaw" <furrealpawdog@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Eva wrote:
>> "Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote in message
>> news:1NWdnSvA3pu2cBnVRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>>> "FurPaw" <furrealpawdog@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
>>>> Analog, catalog, dialog.
>>> Huh - I think, for some reason (what?), I've always spelled dialogue
>>> with the "ue". But never for analog. Catalog - sometimes, sometimes
>>> not...

>> -----------------
>> Are you a pedagog, then?

>
> Funny - I'd never seen pedagogue spelled without the the ue. But it is
> considered an acceptable spelling by Merriam Webster.
>
> Then there's demagog, travelog, synagog.


I don't think I've ever seen "synogogue" without the ue. (Even if it's okay
with MW.)
>
> Deleting the ue from apologue hasn't caught on ... or tongue, or league,
> or plague, or colleague, or fugue, or fatigue, or argue


But the last one wouldn't work w/out the u. The others could retain the e,
but lose the u, & still work. Well, except the first three, which could
lose both the u & e. ;-)

> wait! here's one that's even relevant to this newsgroup:
>
> emmenagogue
>
> <pharmacology> A medicine that promotes the menstrual discharge.
>
> Who knew!


Not me! ;-)

Cathy



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