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Old 05-23-2007, 03:14 PM
FurPaw
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Default Side by side articles in washingtonpost.com

First we have:

Pill That Stops Periods Wins FDA Approval

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...052201269.html
or
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2x4jqf

Next to it we have:

Diabetes Drug Tied to Heart Risk [Avandia - FDA approved]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...052100558.html
or
http://preview.tinyurl.com/yv8jmh

Sometimes you just have to sit back and let the irony wash over you.

Would you have tried stopping your period if you'd had that
option when you were, oh, say, in your 20s? I have to confess
that I probably would have, although I think I would have forced
myself to allow a period once a year. Knowing what I know now -
no, I wouldn't risk it. For the same reasons that I don't
install brand new releases of Microsoft Software - it's
inadequately tested.

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Old 05-23-2007, 07:01 PM
Karen R.
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FurPaw wrote the following on 5/23/2007 1:45 AM:

> Would you have tried stopping your period if you'd had that
> option when you were, oh, say, in your 20s?


My autistic daughter would stop hers in a heartbeat, but she has
debilitating cramps and PMS mood swings. I had the cramps until I had my
first child, so I fully sympathize. Given that children probably aren't
in her immediate future -- or most likely any part of her future -- I
would understand if she doesn't want to spend the next 30 years dealing
with them.

But I agree that the potential risks are frightening. I've had problems
with estrogen-based pills in the past, even at the lowest doses. She has
had problems with most of the meds she has tried, so we stick to mostly
vitamin supplements. But she doesn't want to add another thing to her
herbal arsenal, and freaked when I suggested a tea I saw to help with PMS.

Karen R.
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Old 05-23-2007, 07:01 PM
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FurPaw <furrealpawdog@gmail.com> wrote in
news:ucWdnUrIUJubSM7bnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@comcast.com:

> Would you have tried stopping your period if you'd had that
> option when you were, oh, say, in your 20s? I have to confess
> that I probably would have, although I think I would have forced
> myself to allow a period once a year. Knowing what I know now -
> no, I wouldn't risk it.


If I knew then what I know now, no, I wouldn't. But I did try stopping,
or at least lessening my periods back then. Even then, I bled a lot, and
was constantly fairly anemic. I took the BCP just because I'd heard it
lessened the period.

Unfortunately, or perhaps fortunately, the hormones in that little pill
came up against the resident hormones and sank like a stone. No
difference at all. I stopped the pill after about a year.

The me then would definitely have been willing to take a pill to stop the
periods. The me then wouldn't have known that something a doctor
prescribed wasn't necessarily safe.

And I bet a lot of young women today are in the same ignorant boat.

Chak


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Old 05-24-2007, 10:33 AM
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"FurPaw" <furrealpawdog@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ucWdnUrIUJubSM7bnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> First we have:
>
> Pill That Stops Periods Wins FDA Approval
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...052201269.html
> or
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/2x4jqf
>
> Next to it we have:
>
> Diabetes Drug Tied to Heart Risk [Avandia - FDA approved]
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...052100558.html
> or
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/yv8jmh
>
> Sometimes you just have to sit back and let the irony wash over you.
>
> Would you have tried stopping your period if you'd had that option when
> you were, oh, say, in your 20s?


Nope. Get rid of the horrendous cramps yes, but having periods - sans
cramps - was okay. IMO.

Cathy


I have to confess
> that I probably would have, although I think I would have forced myself to
> allow a period once a year. Knowing what I know now - no, I wouldn't risk
> it. For the same reasons that I don't install brand new releases of
> Microsoft Software - it's inadequately tested.
>
> FurPaw
> --
> My family values don't involve depleted uranium.
>
> To reply, unleash the dog.



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Old 05-25-2007, 05:04 PM
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I had my tubes tied after my third child, I was 24. The pill and I didn't
agree..no matter how low the hormone was I had PMS 24/7...not to mention
depression. I think I was like 22 when I took my last Birth Control Pill. I
had a girlfriend that got a clot in her lung while on the pill and she
smoked..she was 24...she stopped smoking by the time she got out of the
hospital. They were trying to regulate her because they were having a hard
time getting PG. She finally got pregnant by them putting her husbands
sperm into her(I forgot what that is called..I'll remember after I send
this) They got pregnant on their own with their second.
Jacquie


"FurPaw" <furrealpawdog@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ucWdnUrIUJubSM7bnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> First we have:
>
> Pill That Stops Periods Wins FDA Approval
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...052201269.html
> or
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/2x4jqf
>
> Next to it we have:
>
> Diabetes Drug Tied to Heart Risk [Avandia - FDA approved]
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...052100558.html
> or
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/yv8jmh
>
> Sometimes you just have to sit back and let the irony wash over you.
>
> Would you have tried stopping your period if you'd had that option when
> you were, oh, say, in your 20s? I have to confess that I probably would
> have, although I think I would have forced myself to allow a period once a
> year. Knowing what I know now - no, I wouldn't risk it. For the same
> reasons that I don't install brand new releases of Microsoft Software -
> it's inadequately tested.
>
> FurPaw
> --
> My family values don't involve depleted uranium.
>
> To reply, unleash the dog.



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Old 05-25-2007, 05:04 PM
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jacquie <happikat@nospam.net> wrote:

> The pill and I didn't
> agree..no matter how low the hormone was I had PMS 24/7...not to mention
> depression.


Me too. Another reason to very much hope I never need to use estrogen
(so far, so good . . .)
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Old 05-26-2007, 04:27 AM
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Emma Anne wrote:
> jacquie <happikat@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> The pill and I didn't
>> agree..no matter how low the hormone was I had PMS 24/7...not to mention
>> depression.

>
> Me too. Another reason to very much hope I never need to use estrogen
> (so far, so good . . .)



This is mainly curiosity, since i'd have to be suffering
a whole lot to use estrogen even if it didn't have me
huggin' the bowl.

But my bod was able to tolerate NO form of birth control
pill with estrogen. I recall a couple of different types
(one with a two-part name and one with a single-word name,
which i'm too lazy to look up) and both made me violently ill.

So does that carry over to HT estrogen? If BC made me
sick would HT do it as well or are they that different in
chemistry?

Idle curiosity.

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Old 05-26-2007, 04:27 AM
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nickelshrink <nickelshrink@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Emma Anne wrote:
> > jacquie <happikat@nospam.net> wrote:
> >
> >> The pill and I didn't
> >> agree..no matter how low the hormone was I had PMS 24/7...not to mention
> >> depression.

> >
> > Me too. Another reason to very much hope I never need to use estrogen
> > (so far, so good . . .)

>
>
> This is mainly curiosity, since i'd have to be suffering
> a whole lot to use estrogen even if it didn't have me
> huggin' the bowl.
>
> But my bod was able to tolerate NO form of birth control
> pill with estrogen. I recall a couple of different types
> (one with a two-part name and one with a single-word name,
> which i'm too lazy to look up) and both made me violently ill.
>
> So does that carry over to HT estrogen? If BC made me
> sick would HT do it as well or are they that different in
> chemistry?
>
> Idle curiosity.


I don't know. I would guess it would, at least for oral HT (pills).
The creams might be different.
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Old 05-26-2007, 04:27 AM
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"Emma Anne" <emma_anne@mac.com> wrote in message
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> But my bod was able to tolerate NO form of birth control
>> pill with estrogen. I recall a couple of different types
>> (one with a two-part name and one with a single-word name,
>> which i'm too lazy to look up) and both made me violently ill.
>>
>> So does that carry over to HT estrogen? If BC made me
>> sick would HT do it as well or are they that different in
>> chemistry?
>>
>> Idle curiosity.

>
> I don't know. I would guess it would, at least for oral HT (pills).
> The creams might be different.


The doses of hormones in HT are much lower than OC's, but your body may just
be reacting to the synthetics. Bioidentical creams in a very low dose may
not cause as much problems.

Roseanne


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