Some Simple Menopause Facts

"ellen" <epdpster@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> here's a shot of the house (can't believe we haven't taken many)
> http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/j...r/EPSN6014.jpg
>
> i use the term tudor loosely. i don't really know how well this
> fits. we do have the chimney pots & other distinctions. but whatever
> it is - lots of light & lots of fun.

Yep, I would call it a Tudor, too. Lovely house! - & you're right, it's
big! Looks like the rooms are good-sized with lots of light - exposre to
the sun virtually no matter where it is. Big front porch, too. Great price
for it! I love the front door surround & the triple windows - esp. the one
above the front door. Is that a part of the upstairs hall, or is a room
there? Or possibly an offshoot from the front bedroom, maybe??

Cathy

"ellen" <epdpster@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> thanks, cathy. yep the house has character. hope we are worthy. dh
> redid the hardwood floors by himself, so do you want some tips, then?

Thanks, but nope! I've had the floors refinished once - the
upstairs/bedrooms right before I moved in (very late '86), & the downstairs
several years later. Back then, after rdg. up on it, I decided to let a
professional do it vs. trying to handle a sander & possibly messing up with
it - as in taking too much off any given portions of the floors!

Cathy

On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 01:38:18 -0500, mikayla-m@webtv.net (Mikayla M.)
wrote:

>ratatosk@dontbother.tweakdsl.nl wrote:
>
>> Do they have an answer on why my DH
>> got a hot flush?
>
>Slight fever? Horny? Didn't or couldn't get all of it out the last time
>he came?

A bit oversexed aren't you?
He just had a flush. so it's probably no hormone thingy.

R.

Ratatosk, Jola

ellen wrote the following on 2/7/10 5:04 PM:

> karen! 30 inches of snow & still peri! what? so not right.

Like my wrinkles and pimples. :-)

> well. thank goodness for no power loss/episodes of 'lost' (i must be
> the only person on earth to have never seen that)

Until December I would have been able to join you on that.

> /& manageable symptoms. i hope that the thyroid management has been
> going ok. it took a while for my dh to find the right dose of meds.
> does it wig out worse for women because of all of the other hormonal
> turmoil?

Perhaps. Peri appears to be a common time for thyroid issues to make
themselves known. The first dose the doctor put me on did the trick for a
year, then the symptoms returned. My tests were still normal, but given
that I had been having symptoms for about 5 years before the tests
registered anything, the doctor went ahead and upped my dose about two
years ago and that has worked ever since.

> about to turn 54! happy early bday! still in those early 50s!!!!
> they'll be time enough to leave them behind....

Thanks. :-)

> um.. i don't recall *5* cats. busy year there? & still counting?
> loads of fun, i bet.

We got Tiffy (already named) in October 2008. After a month of hiding she
turned into a delightful cat. Every morning she bounds onto the bed and
settles down on top of me for her morning cuddles. Motorboat purr. It is
a lovely way to start the day.

> how is the family doing?

DH's long-awaited promotion has finally made it through most of the hoops
and should be effective soon. Autistic daughter is happy in supported
employment, and continues to improve her excellent swimming skills. She
was supposed to be tested for pre-lifeguard skills last week, but the
snow took care of that. YD is in her junior year of college, happy with a
perfect internship, and doing very well. DS is doing contract work that
he enjoys -- he's been in the same place for a couple of years now.

Karen R.

ratatosk@dontbother.tweakdsl.nl wrote:

> A bit oversexed aren't you?

A bit? More like to the max.

> He just had a flush. so it's probably no
> hormone thingy.

Rub him down with ice cubes and play "fire and ice".

--
Mikayla M.

"Keera Ann Fox" <keera.ann.fox@gmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> Mikayla M. <mikayla-m@webtv.net> wrote:
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>> keera.ann.fox@gmail.com.invalid (Keera Ann Fox) wrote:
>>
>> > Oh, we know we are, but you know, it's
>> > been so long since I've had fun with a
>> > troll,
>>
>> You wish i was a troll. Women like you are scared of women like me. I am
>> everything you wish you could be and then some.
>
> BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
>
>> > I really don't want to dust off my killfile.
>> > Yet.
>>
>> Go ahead. I won't miss you.
>
> You already did. That last swing hit only air.

This is actually pretty funny.

ellen wrote:
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>
> here's a shot of the house (can't believe we haven't taken many)
> http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/j...r/EPSN6014.jpg
>
> i use the term tudor loosely. i don't really know how well this
> fits. we do have the chimney pots & other distinctions. but whatever
> it is - lots of light & lots of fun.
>


Wow - nice house.

--
Jette Goldie
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http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
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ellen <epdpster@gmail.com> wrote:

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>
> here's a shot of the house (can't believe we haven't taken many)
> http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/j...r/EPSN6014.jpg

Gorgeous! I love the brick!

> i use the term tudor loosely. i don't really know how well this
> fits. we do have the chimney pots & other distinctions. but whatever
> it is - lots of light & lots of fun.

What's interesting to me is the tiny upswing at the edge of the roof
above the entrance. _That_ is a characteristic of old Bergen homes, ca.
17th century.

--
Keera in Norway
http://kafox.blogspot.com/

ellen <epdpster@gmail.com> wrote:

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> well, here's the true character of the show dog:
> http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/j...2/EPSN5863.jpg

LOL!

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Keera in Norway
http://kafox.blogspot.com/

ellen <epdpster@gmail.com> wrote:

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>
> keera,
>
> well hurray to the not bothered by peri! you go, girl! sure you
> don't want to trade for a bit? if i recall, you are younger than i
> am...

Yes, well, I guess it's the price to pay for being in peri for 10 years.
Oh, hey, everybody want to go out and celebrate my "anniversary"? Calls
for a drink or three, don't you think? ;-)

Drinks. The one effect peri is having on me is that my body no longer
likes wine. Seriously. My taste buds find wine bitter-tasting now,
especially whites. (Bummer.) However, beer always agrees with me.

> glad to know that you have found impingement relief with acupuncture.
> i've never tried it, but i've heard more than a few people report
> favorably about it.

That was why I tried it. One co-worker had a lot of problems with his
shoulders and neck, including needing surgery. When it all flared up
again, he tried acupuncture. I also had PT, and I think the combo is
probably optimal, but it was the needles that removed the pain. And I
have an excellent acupuncturist, which helps.

> lol about taking that extra day of vacation off to think about growing
> old!

Yeah, I know! I actually called HR to complain about the "mistake" at
first.

> so. weather forecasts using astrology? sounds intriguing. fun &
> complicated? i wonder if we could do peri/hormonal forecasts that
> way. lord knows i could use some advance warnings.

Oh, my, the human hormone system vs. weather? I'll take weather, thank
you! :-) All the work comes from all the charts in a season. Seasonal
forecasts are based on the equinoxes and solstices. Add to that the
movement of Mercury (for winds) and lunar phases (for moisture); the
equinox/solstice chart shows temperature and overall weather. I work
with about 18 charts min. per season.

My stuff is published in Norwegian, but the links at my weather forecast
blogs are to astrological forecasters in English-speaking parts of the
world, in case any of you want to know the weather weeks in advance. :-)
http://icweather.blogspot.com/
My teacher's website is weathersage.com and she offers an overview for
the US and links of her own.

> sometimes neighborhood pets are the best way to go - all the fun with
> none of the hassle. this little golden here does wear me out. keep
> up the good scritches, appropriately placed, of course ;-)

That would be the root of the tail. ;-) But sometimes he's in the mood
for a good neck rub.

> xo, ep

--
Keera in Norway
http://kafox.blogspot.com/

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ellen <epdpster@gmail.com> wrote:

> that's the place, though changing rapidly. if you were to drive the
> lakefront where all the auto exec mansions sit, you would have your
> pick of ones for sale. here's the reality. this awesome house,
> walking distance to the lake & spectacular parks amidst tree-lined
> streets & great architecture - we bought it for $156,000. & while
> it's not cosmetically up to date, it's solid, with wonderful details.

Yikes! My tiny 2 bedroom house with disgusting paneled walls in too
many rooms and horrible wall-to-wall downstairs, on a small dead-end
street behind a public housing project in a working class neighborhood
of Boston has recently dropped a little in estimated price, although
it's still hovering around 280K. I bought it in 1998 for $119,500.

What a difference a location makes!

Priscilla

P.S. Nice to see you, Ellen!
--
"What you fail to understand is that criticising established authority by means
of argument and evidence is a crucial aspect of how science works."
- Chris Malcolm

In article <hkmmd7$3je$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Karen R." <krez56@gmail.com> wrote:

> > & trixie is forever magnificent:
> > http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/j...2/EPSN6550.jpg

Gorgeous!

Priscilla
--
"What you fail to understand is that criticising established authority by means
of argument and evidence is a crucial aspect of how science works."
- Chris Malcolm

ellen wrote:
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>
> thanks, cathy. yep the house has character. hope we are worthy. dh
> redid the hardwood floors by himself, so do you want some tips, then?
>
> you sure sound busy, but it seems like you are enjoying retirement.
> so wonderful!
>
> re: vespa - a friend said, 'hey, you can always sit on the vespa &
> have a glass of wine & look cool, but you can't drive a couch into
> town.' ;-)
>
> xo, ep
>
>
>



Makes perfect sense to me!

The Vespa and Trixie, *and* your wonderful new house
are all ...well, wonderful!

--
pax,
ruth

Save trees AND money! Buy used books!
http://stores.ebay.com/Noir-and-More-Books-and-Trains

"ellen" <epdpster@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> thanks, cathy. yep the house has character. hope we are worthy.

This reminded me (a little belatedly) of something from 2 summers ago that
was pretty cool.

From my front hall (screen/storm door closed, reg. front door open) one day
I saw a couple of women - in their 30's - out on the public sidewalk in
front of my house. They were facing the house, appeared to be in
conversation, & were looking quite benign - they saw me & sort of waved; but
I had no clue who they were. The sidewalk's a good 50' from the front door,
so I went out to them, & it turned out they were the granddaughters of the
couple (who IIRC, were the 3rd owners since 1920) who lived here from the
early 1940's - the mid-80's. They live out of town in different locales but
were visiting their parents (their father grew up in this house) - who live
less then half a mile down the street.

Now, this house has cedar shakes for its siding, which is painted white.
The classic sort of white house with dark green shutters kind of Colonial
Revival house that I had wanted for years & got at an excellent price in '86
($50K) which I could actually afford (I was making about $25K/yr. then)
because it needed all new cosmetic help/paint inside & out. (Should be
*stained* white, but that's a whole 'nother story. The paint - vs. white
stain - was already there when I moved in, so I'm stuck with it.) In the
front, esp. around the entrance, the shakes aren't in great condition -
prob. due to overzealous power washing in the past. Various friends have
asked how come I don't just put vinyl siding on it, instead of dealing with
the not-so-hot areas of shakes & painting it every 'x' number of years, but
I really want to keep the natural materials. (If I were rich, I'd just have
redone one or two sides of the house in new shakes already!) Anyway, this
is all leading up to: None of the siding issues were being discussed
between us, but one of the things the women/granddaughters said to me was:
"We are *so* glad you haven't put vinyl siding on the house!" ;-) Which
made me feel worthy of the house. :-) (See, all of that -was- going
someplace, after all! <g>)

Cathy

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ah, geez, susan! wish i could do more then send cyber (((hugs))) &
good wishes. obviously i hope that everything shows clear with that.
i just wish that something was easier - anything- with this whole
ordeal/process. just makes me want to swear on your behalf.

may the renovation go well. i don't think that i'll ever be able to
convince my dh to hire anyone ever again for anything. we had very
bad luck with some of the contractors that we recently hired. just
horrid work. even with glowing referrals.

i don't know what will happen in michigan. the grosse pointe schools
are still very solid - we are taxed quite high & there is high
community commitment to the school system. in the meantime, detroit
continues to sink at a horrifying & rapid pace.

On Feb 7, 6:13*pm, Susan <su...@nothanks.org> wrote:
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> ellen wrote:
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>
> > susan! *f*ck!!!!!! *& really what i want to do is keep exclaiming that
> > after hearing that about the decades old & ongoing infection(s)! *when
> > i think of how hard it was for you to uncover this - & now to deal
> > with more idiots - i can so totally see the across the room xray
> > jack*ss. *so sorry :-( *i'm glad that you have a good dentist & i hope
> > that you can find a good pathologist.
>
> Next will be brain cancer: *I've had 6 or 7 C-T scans to my head in the
> last decade, most in the past five years. *My dentist actually requested
> and got a copy of my C-T from the oral surgeon and my sinus films from
> my ENT to ask a friend's brother whose a radiology resident to see if he
> can find anything.
>
>
>
> > crap! *how hard to be worn down by feeling crappy & fighting to get
> > good care, not to mention dealing with family stuff. *totally
> > understand the HATE people.... *even when it's not always...
>
> > so i take it you are designing the renovating plans yourself? *i hope
> > there is some fun in that, at least.
>
> Oh, no, we need an architect or draftsperson. *I know what I want to do
> in the bathroom, though. *I only contacted design and build firms.
> We're not adding hardly any floor space, just a few feet in the bath,
> but by raising the steeply pitched roof line over this room and my bath,
> we'll be able to use a LOT more of the space we have. *Our BR is fine,
> not steeply sloped. We plan a tudor style dormer, perpendicular ridge.
>
> > re: *the housing prices here - you wouldn't believe the gorgeous homes
> > that we could have gotten for around $100,000. *the kind with
> > fireplaces in the master bedrooms, etc. *we just never would have been
> > able to afford the taxes on something assessed at $450,000.
>
> Amazing value. *I hope the rebound hits your area and your value goes
> sky high.
>
> * * of
>
> > course, we sit on our 3 other city properties, all now worth nothing.
> > at least my brother is living in our old house (so big sister is
> > assured that he has a roof over his head), & we have a good renter in
> > the one & are trying to get some artists into the commercial prop.
> > just hoping that the grosse pointes don't totally tank.
>
> > ((((hugs))))
>
> Those properties may come back. *Grosse Pointe sill have the best
> schools, or are they struggling with funding now?
>
> Susan

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cool. we both have good taste ;-)

On Feb 7, 6:14*pm, Susan <su...@nothanks.org> wrote:
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> ellen wrote:
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> > here's a shot of the house (can't believe we haven't taken many)
> >http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/j...r/EPSN6014.jpg
>
> > i use the term tudor loosely. *i don't really know how well this
> > fits. *we do have the chimney pots & other distinctions. *but whatever
> > it is - lots of light & lots of fun.
>
> It's gorgeous, cream stucco, brick and tudor brown trim, same as mine,
> but bigger.
>
> Susan

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the triple windows over the front door are part of the main
staircase. here's one photo:
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/j...r/EPSN5967.jpg

there is a ton of light & we love it. the prior owners removed a wall
between the kitchen & dining room & that really opened up the whole
back of the house (we have a small enclosed porch off the back as
well). there are 3 bedrooms on the second floor. & then converted
rooms on the 3rd level as well. way more toilets than i need....

you are quite smart with the wood floors. dh spent a ton of time on
ours & they came out great. but what hard work. & trixie is sanding
them down again.


On Feb 7, 7:19*pm, "Cathy" <c...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> "ellen" <epdps...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> > x-no-archive: yes
>
> > here's a shot of the house (can't believe we haven't taken many)
> >http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/j...r/EPSN6014.jpg
>
> > i use the term tudor loosely. *i don't really know how well this
> > fits. *we do have the chimney pots & other distinctions. *but whatever
> > it is - lots of light & lots of fun.
>
> Yep, I would call it a Tudor, too. *Lovely house! - & you're right, it's
> big! *Looks like the rooms are good-sized with lots of light - exposre to
> the sun virtually no matter where it is. *Big front porch, too. *Great price
> for it! *I love the front door surround & the triple windows - esp. theone
> above the front door. *Is that a part of the upstairs hall, or is a room
> there? *Or possibly an offshoot from the front bedroom, maybe??
>
> Cathy

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On Feb 7, 8:00*pm, "Karen R." <kre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ellen wrote the following on 2/7/10 5:32 PM:
>
> > here's a shot of the house (can't believe we haven't taken many)
> >http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/j...r/EPSN6014.jpg
>
> Not quite as lovely as Trixie, bit still, WOW!
>
> Karen R.

few things are...

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On Feb 7, 8:17*pm, "Karen R." <kre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ellen wrote the following on 2/7/10 5:04 PM:
>
> > karen! *30 inches of snow & still peri! *what? *so not right.
>
> Like my wrinkles and pimples. :-)
>
> > well. *thank goodness for no power loss/episodes of 'lost' (i must be
> > the only person on earth to have never seen that)
>
> Until December I would have been able to join you on that.
>
> > /& manageable symptoms. i hope that the thyroid management has been
> > going ok. it took a while for my dh to find the right dose of meds.
> > does it wig out worse for women because of all of the other hormonal
> > turmoil?
>
> Perhaps. Peri appears to be a common time for thyroid issues to make
> themselves known. The first dose the doctor put me on did the trick for a
> year, then the symptoms returned. My tests were still normal, but given
> that I had been having symptoms for about 5 years before the tests
> registered anything, the doctor went ahead and upped my dose about two
> years ago and that has worked ever since.
>
> > about to turn 54! *happy early bday! *still in those early 50s!!!!
> > they'll be time enough to leave them behind....
>
> Thanks. :-)
>
> > um.. *i don't recall *5* cats. *busy year there? *& still counting?
> > loads of fun, i bet.
>
> We got Tiffy (already named) in October 2008. After a month of hiding she
> turned into a delightful cat. Every morning she bounds onto the bed and
> settles down on top of me for her morning cuddles. Motorboat purr. It is
> a lovely way to start the day.
>
> > how is the family doing?
>
> DH's long-awaited promotion has finally made it through most of the hoops
> and should be effective soon. Autistic daughter is happy in supported
> employment, and continues to improve her excellent swimming skills. She
> was supposed to be tested for pre-lifeguard skills last week, but the
> snow took care of that. YD is in her junior year of college, happy with a
> perfect internship, and doing very well. DS is doing contract work that
> he enjoys -- he's been in the same place for a couple of years now.
>
> Karen R.

i'm with you on the pimples & wrinkles. & maybe i should take your
word about 'lost.'

the rest sounds all really good. glad to know that the family is
doing so well & that your mornings begin w/motorboat purrs. are you
still doing the same work?

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thanks, jette. how is life for you these days? still taking great
photos, i hope?

On Feb 8, 2:44*am, Jette Goldie <jgoldie...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> ellen wrote:
> > x-no-archive: yes
>
> > here's a shot of the house (can't believe we haven't taken many)
> >http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/j...r/EPSN6014.jpg
>
> > i use the term tudor loosely. *i don't really know how well this
> > fits. *we do have the chimney pots & other distinctions. *but whatever
> > it is - lots of light & lots of fun.
>
> Wow - nice house.
>
> --
> Jette Goldie
> jette.gol...@gmail.comhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/wolfette/http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/http://wolfette.livejournal.com/
> ("reply to" is spamblocked - use the email addy in sig)

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interesting observation on the house - i'll have to look that up. i
really don't know much at all about such things.

for sure i'll drink with you! i'm around the 10 yr mark as well. &
if drinking is not well tolerated, how would chocolate do?

so have the forecasts been generally accurate? maybe if we combine
weather & hormones.... wonder what we would get. full moons sure
don't agree with me. & that was a splendid one that we recently had.


On Feb 8, 9:07*am, keera.ann....@gmail.com.invalid (Keera Ann Fox)
wrote:
> ellen <epdps...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > x-no-archive: yes
>
> > keera,
>
> > well hurray to the not bothered by peri! *you go, girl! *sure you
> > don't want to trade for a bit? *if i recall, you are younger than i
> > am...
>
> Yes, well, I guess it's the price to pay for being in peri for 10 years.
> Oh, hey, everybody want to go out and celebrate my "anniversary"? Calls
> for a drink or three, don't you think? ;-)
>
> Drinks. The one effect peri is having on me is that my body no longer
> likes wine. Seriously. My taste buds find wine bitter-tasting now,
> especially whites. (Bummer.) However, beer always agrees with me.
>
> > glad to know that you have found impingement relief with acupuncture.
> > i've never tried it, but i've heard more than a few people report
> > favorably about it.
>
> That was why I tried it. One co-worker had a lot of problems with his
> shoulders and neck, including needing surgery. When it all flared up
> again, he tried acupuncture. I also had PT, and I think the combo is
> probably optimal, but it was the needles that removed the pain. And I
> have an excellent acupuncturist, which helps.
>
> > lol about taking that extra day of vacation off to think about growing
> > old!
>
> Yeah, I know! I actually called HR to complain about the "mistake" at
> first.
>
> > so. *weather forecasts using astrology? *sounds intriguing. *fun &
> > complicated? *i wonder if we could do peri/hormonal forecasts that
> > way. *lord knows i could use some advance warnings.
>
> Oh, my, the human hormone system vs. weather? I'll take weather, thank
> you! :-) All the work comes from all the charts in a season. Seasonal
> forecasts are based on the equinoxes and solstices. Add to that the
> movement of Mercury (for winds) and lunar phases (for moisture); the
> equinox/solstice chart shows temperature and overall weather. I work
> with about 18 charts min. per season.
>
> My stuff is published in Norwegian, but the links at my weather forecast
> blogs are to astrological forecasters in English-speaking parts of the
> world, in case any of you want to know the weather weeks in advance. :-)http://icweather.blogspot.com/
> My teacher's website is weathersage.com and she offers an overview for
> the US and links of her own.
>
> > sometimes neighborhood pets are the best way to go - all the fun with
> > none of the hassle. *this little golden here does wear me out. *keep
> > up the good scritches, appropriately placed, of course ;-)
>
> That would be the root of the tail. ;-) But sometimes he's in the mood
> for a good neck rub.
>
> > xo, ep
>
> --
> Keera in Norwayhttp://kafox.blogspot.com/

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difference in location is right. we are comforting ourselves with the
house & neighborhood even while life falls apart all around this
area. boston vs detroit is no contest.

yours may not be the ideal dream home, but i'm glad that you haven't
lost value. & i hope that life is going well for you. it's great to
catch up with everyone here - i've missed you all.

xo, ep

On Feb 8, 11:48*am, Peppermint Patootie
<peppermint_patoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article
> <d637e6bb-8b4c-45bc-915a-e53c77bb9...@m31g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
>
> *ellen <epdps...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > that's the place, though changing rapidly. *if you were to drive the
> > lakefront where all the auto exec mansions sit, you would have your
> > pick of ones for sale. *here's the reality. *this awesome house,
> > walking distance to the lake & spectacular parks amidst tree-lined
> > streets & great architecture - we bought it for $156,000. *& while
> > it's not cosmetically up to date, it's solid, with wonderful details.
>
> Yikes! *My tiny 2 bedroom house with disgusting paneled walls in too
> many rooms and horrible wall-to-wall downstairs, on a small dead-end
> street behind a public housing project in a working class neighborhood
> of Boston has recently dropped a little in estimated price, although
> it's still hovering around 280K. *I bought it in 1998 for $119,500.
>
> What a difference a location makes!
>
> Priscilla
>
> P.S. *Nice to see you, Ellen!
> --
> "What you fail to understand is that criticising established authority bymeans
> of argument and evidence is a crucial aspect of how science works."
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - Chris Malcolm

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i thought it might make sense to you...

the only thing that would make this all better would be me feeling
better more consistently & a sidecar on the vespa for trixie ;-)

are things going well for you, ruth?



On Feb 8, 1:41*pm, nickelshrink <nickelshr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ellen wrote:
> > x-no-archive: yes
>
> > thanks, cathy. *yep the house has character. *hope we are worthy. *dh
> > redid the hardwood floors by himself, so do you want some tips, then?
>
> > you sure sound busy, but it seems like you are enjoying retirement.
> > so wonderful!
>
> > re: vespa - a friend said, 'hey, you can always sit on the vespa &
> > have a glass of wine & look cool, but you can't drive a couch into
> > town.' *;-)
>
> > xo, ep
>
> Makes perfect sense to me!
>
> The Vespa and Trixie, *and* your wonderful new house
> are all ...well, wonderful!
>
> --
> pax,
> ruth
>
> Save trees AND money! *Buy used books!http://stores.ebay.com/Noir-and-More-Books-and-Trains

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On Feb 8, 3:07*pm, "Cathy" <c...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> "ellen" <epdps...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:7f3ca236-b227-41d7-b0fa-72295d85d671@a5g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
>
> > x-no-archive: yes
>
> > thanks, cathy. *yep the house has character. *hope we are worthy.
>
> This reminded me (a little belatedly) of something from 2 summers ago that
> was pretty cool.
>
> From my front hall (screen/storm door closed, reg. front door open) one day
> I saw a couple of *women - in their 30's - out on the public sidewalk in
> front of my house. They were facing the house, appeared to be in
> conversation, & were looking quite benign - they saw me & sort of waved; but
> I had no clue who they were. *The sidewalk's a good 50' from the front door,
> so I went out to them, & it turned out they were the granddaughters of the
> couple (who IIRC, were the 3rd owners since 1920) who lived here from the
> early 1940's - the mid-80's. *They live out of town in different locales but
> were visiting their parents (their father grew up in this house) - who live
> less then half a mile down the street.
>
> Now, this house has cedar shakes for its siding, which is painted white.
> The classic sort of white house with dark green shutters kind of Colonial
> Revival house that I had wanted for years & got at an excellent price in '86
> ($50K) which I could actually afford (I was making about $25K/yr. then)
> because it needed all new cosmetic help/paint inside & out. *(Should be
> *stained* white, but that's a whole 'nother story. *The paint - vs. white
> stain - was already there when I moved in, so I'm stuck with it.) *In the
> front, esp. around the entrance, the shakes aren't in great condition -
> prob. due to overzealous power washing in the past. Various friends have
> asked how come I don't just put vinyl siding on it, instead of dealing with
> the not-so-hot areas of shakes & painting it every 'x' number of years, but
> I really want to keep the natural materials. (If I were rich, I'd just have
> redone one or two sides of the house in new shakes already!) *Anyway, this
> is all leading up to: *None of the siding issues were being discussed
> between us, but one of the things the women/granddaughters said to me was:
> "We are *so* glad you haven't put vinyl siding on the house!" ;-) *Which
> made me feel worthy of the house. :-) *(See, all of that -was- going
> someplace, after all! <g>)
>
> Cathy

that is so totally cool from all aspects, cathy! the house sounds
great (great price for sure! & i like that style). but how cool to
have kept the original character & then to have those connections
validate it. i love it! absolutely worthy!

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Cathy wrote:
Anyway, this
> is all leading up to: None of the siding issues were being discussed
> between us, but one of the things the women/granddaughters said to me was:
> "We are *so* glad you haven't put vinyl siding on the house!" ;-) Which
> made me feel worthy of the house. :-) (See, all of that -was- going
> someplace, after all! <g>)

I would never put vinyl on a house, but I am definitely planning to use
Hardy board (fiber cement) for the clapboard on the dormer, to match the
clapboard atop our front peak. Looks like the real thing. We would've
used the Hardy perfection shakes on our old house if we hadn't moved.

Also, you never want to power wash a house; too easy to end up with a
mold problem by water intrusion under and into siding. Better to use a
spray on like Jomax or Wet and Forget.

Susan

ellen wrote the following on 2/8/10 5:16 PM:

> the rest sounds all really good. glad to know that the family is
> doing so well & that your mornings begin w/motorboat purrs. are you
> still doing the same work?

Yes. In fact, the support group lists I run recently won a very
prestigious award. So now I get a plaque up on our family hall of awards. :-)

Karen R.

ellen wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> thanks, jette. how is life for you these days? still taking great
> photos, i hope?
>
>

There's not been a lot to capture except snow recently - and in the
dark because working long hours - but spring and longer evenings are
on the way!

--
Jette Goldie
jette.goldie@gmail.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wolfette/
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
http://wolfette.livejournal.com/
("reply to" is spamblocked - use the email addy in sig)

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On Feb 8, 6:02*pm, Susan <su...@nothanks.org> wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> ellen wrote:
> > x-no-archive: yes
>
> > difference in location is right. *we are comforting ourselves with the
> > house & neighborhood even while life falls apart all around this
> > area. *boston vs detroit is no contest.
>
> > yours may not be the ideal dream home, but i'm glad that you haven't
> > lost value. *& i hope that life is going well for you. *it's great to
> > catch up with everyone here - i've missed you all.
>
> Location sure does matter! *When we purchased here in 2004, the median
> was $338,000. *At around $500k, we saw more than one house that had
> never had a real kitchen and some without a kitchen and br closets.
>
> Our house is smaller than yours, about 1700 sq ft, on .25 acre
> (actually, it's on .12 and we own .13 adjacent that's woods and garden).
>
> We got a huge reduction due to estate sale and a recent appraisal for
> $540 in a down market (a bit more than we paid) for a HELOC despite the
> completely cruddy bathroom up here. *Think cheesy, cheap pool tile and
> vinyl tub surround, bleah! *They spent like crazy on built ins and
> hardscaping and landscape lighting and cheesed the bathroom like you
> wouldn't believe. *Besides that, and the cheesy windows, we do have all
> the original glass knobs, interior doors with working skeleton key
> locks, lights in all the closets etc.
>
> Susan

i won't even say what $500k would buy you here. definitely get a
kitchen. or 2.

it's great that values are holding there, even in this market. a
wonderful house is worth nothing if the neighborhood falls apart & the
quality of life suffers. i'm not sure of the drop in value here, but
i bet it's close to 50%. i do know that the last mortgage on this
house was for $350k.

i never understood those strange spending decisions - huge amounts of
money in some areas & 'cheesing' in others. the bathroom sounds
somewhat challenged/challenging, but it's great that you have so much
of the original fixtures & other items. we do have the original knobs
& other hardware but most of the lighting is sadly atrocious.

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On Feb 8, 7:15*pm, "Karen R." <kre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ellen wrote the following on 2/8/10 5:16 PM:
>
> > the rest sounds all really good. *glad to know that the family is
> > doing so well & that your mornings begin w/motorboat purrs. *are you
> > still doing the same work?
>
> Yes. In fact, the support group lists I run recently won a very
> prestigious award. So now I get a plaque up on our family hall of awards.:-)
>
> Karen R.

that's great, karen! congratulations! )

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ellen wrote:

> i won't even say what $500k would buy you here. definitely get a
> kitchen. or 2.

This particular part of this town holds values in any market, but not
all of LI does. I think at worst we've been down 10% total. But a LOT
of house sales have closed in the past few months and comps are
surprisingly high. Has to be old and charming, though. Anything built
after the 30s or 40s goes for a very steep discount.

>
> it's great that values are holding there, even in this market. a
> wonderful house is worth nothing if the neighborhood falls apart & the
> quality of life suffers. i'm not sure of the drop in value here, but
> i bet it's close to 50%. i do know that the last mortgage on this
> house was for $350k.

WOW.

>
> i never understood those strange spending decisions - huge amounts of
> money in some areas & 'cheesing' in others. the bathroom sounds
> somewhat challenged/challenging, but it's great that you have so much
> of the original fixtures & other items. we do have the original knobs
> & other hardware but most of the lighting is sadly atrocious.

Lighting fixtures here are nothing special, and I could sure use more
outlets on more walls for plugs and hard wired lights. Something to add
when we do the remodel.

Susan

ellen <epdpster@gmail.com> wrote:

> x-no-archive: yes
>
> interesting observation on the house - i'll have to look that up. i
> really don't know much at all about such things.

Neither do I, and I wish I did.

> for sure i'll drink with you! i'm around the 10 yr mark as well.

Oh, good! Company! :-)

> &if drinking is not well tolerated, how would chocolate do?

Thankfully, chocolate still works!

> so have the forecasts been generally accurate? maybe if we combine
> weather & hormones.... wonder what we would get.

Climate Change of Life. :-D

> full moons sure
> don't agree with me.

They do me, but I've heard the theory that you are most comfortabe
during lunar phases that match the one at your birth. I was born during
a full moon.

> & that was a splendid one that we recently had.

It was! It was at its closest to Earth.

> On Feb 8, 9:07 am, keera.ann....@gmail.com.invalid (Keera Ann Fox)
> wrote:
> > ellen <epdps...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > x-no-archive: yes
> >
> > > keera,
> >
> > > well hurray to the not bothered by peri! you go, girl! sure you
> > > don't want to trade for a bit? if i recall, you are younger than i
> > > am...
> >
> > Yes, well, I guess it's the price to pay for being in peri for 10 years.
> > Oh, hey, everybody want to go out and celebrate my "anniversary"? Calls
> > for a drink or three, don't you think? ;-)
> >
> > Drinks. The one effect peri is having on me is that my body no longer
> > likes wine. Seriously. My taste buds find wine bitter-tasting now,
> > especially whites. (Bummer.) However, beer always agrees with me.
> >
> > > glad to know that you have found impingement relief with acupuncture.
> > > i've never tried it, but i've heard more than a few people report
> > > favorably about it.
> >
> > That was why I tried it. One co-worker had a lot of problems with his
> > shoulders and neck, including needing surgery. When it all flared up
> > again, he tried acupuncture. I also had PT, and I think the combo is
> > probably optimal, but it was the needles that removed the pain. And I
> > have an excellent acupuncturist, which helps.
> >
> > > lol about taking that extra day of vacation off to think about growing
> > > old!
> >
> > Yeah, I know! I actually called HR to complain about the "mistake" at
> > first.
> >
> > > so. weather forecasts using astrology? sounds intriguing. fun &
> > > complicated? i wonder if we could do peri/hormonal forecasts that
> > > way. lord knows i could use some advance warnings.
> >
> > Oh, my, the human hormone system vs. weather? I'll take weather, thank
> > you! :-) All the work comes from all the charts in a season. Seasonal
> > forecasts are based on the equinoxes and solstices. Add to that the
> > movement of Mercury (for winds) and lunar phases (for moisture); the
> > equinox/solstice chart shows temperature and overall weather. I work
> > with about 18 charts min. per season.
> >
> > My stuff is published in Norwegian, but the links at my weather forecast
> > blogs are to astrological forecasters in English-speaking parts of the
> > world, in case any of you want to know the weather weeks in advance. :-)
> > http://icweather.blogspot.com/
> > My teacher's website is weathersage.com and she offers an overview for
> > the US and links of her own.
> >
> > > sometimes neighborhood pets are the best way to go - all the fun with
> > > none of the hassle. this little golden here does wear me out. keep
> > > up the good scritches, appropriately placed, of course ;-)
> >
> > That would be the root of the tail. ;-) But sometimes he's in the mood
> > for a good neck rub.
> >
> > > xo, ep
> >
> > --
> > Keera in Norwayhttp://kafox.blogspot.com/


--
Keera in Norway
http://kafox.blogspot.com/

On 2/8/10 5:26 PM, ellen wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> i thought it might make sense to you...
>
> the only thing that would make this all better would be me feeling
> better more consistently& a sidecar on the vespa for trixie ;-)
>
> are things going well for you, ruth?


Pretty OK! No major life events but as all 4 of my and
DH's parents get older (they're all between 82 and 88)
things get harder. Still, no major life events. The only
major life event i want is a house of our own, but that's
a ways off!

I passed my one-year/no period mark a couple weeks ago,
so i guess i'm done. Still have peri symptoms.





>
>
> On Feb 8, 1:41 pm, nickelshrink<nickelshr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> ellen wrote:
>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>
>>> thanks, cathy. yep the house has character. hope we are worthy. dh
>>> redid the hardwood floors by himself, so do you want some tips, then?
>>
>>> you sure sound busy, but it seems like you are enjoying retirement.
>>> so wonderful!
>>
>>> re: vespa - a friend said, 'hey, you can always sit on the vespa&
>>> have a glass of wine& look cool, but you can't drive a couch into
>>> town.' ;-)
>>
>>> xo, ep
>>
>> Makes perfect sense to me!
>>
>> The Vespa and Trixie, *and* your wonderful new house
>> are all ...well, wonderful!
>>
>> --
>> pax,
>> ruth
>>
>> Save trees AND money! Buy used books!http://stores.ebay.com/Noir-and-More-Books-and-Trains
>


--

pax,
ruth

Save trees AND money! Buy used books!
http://stores.ebay.com/Noir-and-More-Books-and-Trains

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On Feb 10, 9:47*am, Susan <su...@nothanks.org> wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> ellen wrote:
> > i won't even say what $500k would buy you here. *definitely get a
> > kitchen. *or 2.
>
> This particular part of this town holds values in any market, but not
> all of LI does. *I think at worst we've been down 10% total. *But a LOT
> of house sales have closed in the past few months and comps are
> surprisingly high. *Has to be old and charming, though. *Anything built
> after the 30s or 40s goes for a very steep discount.
>
>
>
> > it's great that values are holding there, even in this market. *a
> > wonderful house is worth nothing if the neighborhood falls apart & the
> > quality of life suffers. *i'm not sure of the drop in value here, but
> > i bet it's close to 50%. *i do know that the last mortgage on this
> > house was for $350k.
>
> WOW.
>
>
>
> > i never understood those strange spending decisions - huge amounts of
> > money in some areas & 'cheesing' in others. *the bathroom sounds
> > somewhat challenged/challenging, but it's great that you have so much
> > of the original fixtures & other items. *we do have the original knobs
> > & other hardware but most of the lighting is sadly atrocious.
>
> Lighting fixtures here are nothing special, and I could sure use more
> outlets on more walls for plugs and hard wired lights. *Something to add
> when we do the remodel.
>
> Susan


i had pretty much thought that your area would hold value. has the
difference there ( btwn old & charming vs anything newer) always been
the case?

instead of that remodel, can't i entice you to be my neighbor? ;o)

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On Feb 11, 5:50*pm, nickelshrink <nickelshr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 2/8/10 5:26 PM, ellen wrote:
>
> > x-no-archive: yes
>
> > i thought it might make sense to you...
>
> > the only thing that would make this all better would be me feeling
> > better more consistently& *a sidecar on the vespa for trixie ;-)
>
> > are things going well for you, ruth?
>
> Pretty OK! No major life events but as all 4 of my and
> DH's parents get older (they're all between 82 and 88)
> things get harder. Still, no major life events. The only
> major life event i want is a house of our own, but that's
> a ways off!
>
> I passed my one-year/no period mark a couple weeks ago,
> so i guess i'm done. Still have peri symptoms.
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 8, 1:41 pm, nickelshrink<nickelshr...@yahoo.com> *wrote:
> >> ellen wrote:
> >>> x-no-archive: yes
>
> >>> thanks, cathy. *yep the house has character. *hope we are worthy.*dh
> >>> redid the hardwood floors by himself, so do you want some tips, then?
>
> >>> you sure sound busy, but it seems like you are enjoying retirement.
> >>> so wonderful!
>
> >>> re: vespa - a friend said, 'hey, you can always sit on the vespa&
> >>> have a glass of wine& *look cool, but you can't drive a couch into
> >>> town.' *;-)
>
> >>> xo, ep
>
> >> Makes perfect sense to me!
>
> >> The Vespa and Trixie, *and* your wonderful new house
> >> are all ...well, wonderful!
>
> >> --
> >> pax,
> >> ruth
>
> >> Save trees AND money! *Buy used books!http://stores.ebay.com/Noir-and-More-Books-and-Trains
>
> --
>
> pax,
> ruth
>
> Save trees AND money! *Buy used books!http://stores.ebay.com/Noir-and-More-Books-and-Trains

i'm all for pretty OK! & yay! for the official entrance into
meno!!!! congrats!!!!! does it feel celebratory, in spite of
still having symptoms? have you experienced the fabled meno-zest? or
is that mere legend?

at any rate, i hope that the symptoms lessen the further you go
without periods.

but 4 parents in their 80s sounds like it could be a handful. dh's
parents are in their early 80s & just starting to need help (& his
father has a significant health problem that will just worsen & will
require intensive caregiving.) it's one of the reasons we remained
here in the state. your reference to home - so are you sharing it
with some of the family, then?

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ellen wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes

> i had pretty much thought that your area would hold value. has the
> difference there ( btwn old & charming vs anything newer) always been
> the case?

I think so, for the few decades I've known the village, my part of town.
Not only that, but when we bought here during the real estate boom in
2004, houses here had tripled in value in 11 years, and where we moved
from had doubled in 16 years, so quite a diff.

Any realtor will tell you that everyone wants "old and charming."

>
> instead of that remodel, can't i entice you to be my neighbor? ;o)

If your weather were milder, those prices and having you for a neighbor
would put a for sale sign on my lawn this week. ;-)

Susan

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ellen wrote:

> i hope that your realtor's observation extends beyond houses & that
> 'old & charming' may be in demand universally. i'm working on the
> charming part....
>

Me too, but we're not still talking houses now, are we? ;-D

Susan

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On Feb 13, 2:55*pm, Susan <su...@nothanks.org> wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> ellen wrote:
> > x-no-archive: yes
> > i had pretty much thought that your area would hold value. *has the
> > difference there ( btwn old & charming vs anything newer) always been
> > the case?
>
> I think so, for the few decades I've known the village, my part of town.
> Not only that, but when we bought here during the real estate boom in
> 2004, houses here had tripled in value in 11 years, and where we moved
> from had doubled in 16 years, so quite a diff.
>
> Any realtor will tell you that everyone wants "old and charming."
>
>
>
> > instead of that remodel, can't i entice you to be my neighbor? *;o)
>
> If your weather were milder, those prices and having you for a neighbor
> would put a for sale sign on my lawn this week. * ;-)
>
> Susan

yow! tripled in value! tough to buy during a boom, but good to know
that it's all stable & will continue to be so. since we are detroit's
neighbor, it's hard to tell what will happen here. we hope we don't
totally tank, but who knows? even the one close & distinguished
detroit neighborhood is collapsing, with many of the homeowners there
making their move into the pointes.

re: moving consideration - aw, that's so sweet...

i hope that your realtor's observation extends beyond houses & that
'old & charming' may be in demand universally. i'm working on the
charming part....

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On Feb 13, 3:58*pm, Susan <su...@nothanks.org> wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> ellen wrote:
> > i hope that your realtor's observation extends beyond houses & that
> > 'old & charming' may be in demand universally. *i'm working on the
> > charming part....
>
> Me too, but we're not still talking houses now, are we? * ;-D
>
> Susan

nope! ;o)

ellen wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> On Feb 11, 5:50 pm, nickelshrink <nickelshr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 2/8/10 5:26 PM, ellen wrote:
>>
>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>> i thought it might make sense to you...
>>> the only thing that would make this all better would be me feeling
>>> better more consistently& a sidecar on the vespa for trixie ;-)
>>> are things going well for you, ruth?
>> Pretty OK! No major life events but as all 4 of my and
>> DH's parents get older (they're all between 82 and 88)
>> things get harder. Still, no major life events. The only
>> major life event i want is a house of our own, but that's
>> a ways off!
>>
>> I passed my one-year/no period mark a couple weeks ago,
>> so i guess i'm done. Still have peri symptoms.
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 8, 1:41 pm, nickelshrink<nickelshr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> ellen wrote:
>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>> thanks, cathy. yep the house has character. hope we are worthy. dh
>>>>> redid the hardwood floors by himself, so do you want some tips, then?
>>>>> you sure sound busy, but it seems like you are enjoying retirement.
>>>>> so wonderful!
>>>>> re: vespa - a friend said, 'hey, you can always sit on the vespa&
>>>>> have a glass of wine& look cool, but you can't drive a couch into
>>>>> town.' ;-)
>>>>> xo, ep
>>>> Makes perfect sense to me!
>>>> The Vespa and Trixie, *and* your wonderful new house
>>>> are all ...well, wonderful!
>>>> --
>>>> pax,
>>>> ruth
>>>> Save trees AND money! Buy used books!http://stores.ebay.com/Noir-and-More-Books-and-Trains
>> --
>>
>> pax,
>> ruth
>>
>> Save trees AND money! Buy used books!http://stores.ebay.com/Noir-and-More-Books-and-Trains
>
> i'm all for pretty OK! & yay! for the official entrance into
> meno!!!! congrats!!!!! does it feel celebratory, in spite of
> still having symptoms?

I think i'll be more inclined to celebrate when the symptoms
also fade - but then, i was lucky in having few period problems
just more pms annoyance. And i'm not entirely glad to exit
childbearing -- I'd like to have have skipped my first marriage
and to have borne kids. But i'm also aware that my actual ability
to carry a child to term undoubtedly ended quite awhile before
age 55 (my last period was a week after my 55th birthday
last year), so it's not a major thing. Regrets are a waste. My life
is too good for me to complain much about and i'm a very lucky
and valued stepmother.


> have you experienced the fabled meno-zest? or
> is that mere legend?
>

So far, no, but does it allegedly happen right away?

> at any rate, i hope that the symptoms lessen the further you go
> without periods.
>
> but 4 parents in their 80s sounds like it could be a handful. dh's
> parents are in their early 80s & just starting to need help (& his
> father has a significant health problem that will just worsen & will
> require intensive caregiving.) it's one of the reasons we remained
> here in the state. your reference to home - so are you sharing it
> with some of the family, then?
>

DH and i live in my parents' guest house, actually, pretty
much to act as their assisted living - it's a good setup for all
concerned! Yeah, they're all a handful, but all mobile and
mentally OK for now! Blesséd, we are!


--
pax,
ruth

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x-no-archive: yes

On Feb 15, 4:29*pm, nickelshrink <nickelshr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ellen wrote:
> > x-no-archive: yes
>
> > On Feb 11, 5:50 pm, nickelshrink <nickelshr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On 2/8/10 5:26 PM, ellen wrote:
>
> >>> x-no-archive: yes
> >>> i thought it might make sense to you...
> >>> the only thing that would make this all better would be me feeling
> >>> better more consistently& *a sidecar on the vespa for trixie ;-)
> >>> are things going well for you, ruth?
> >> Pretty OK! No major life events but as all 4 of my and
> >> DH's parents get older (they're all between 82 and 88)
> >> things get harder. Still, no major life events. The only
> >> major life event i want is a house of our own, but that's
> >> a ways off!
>
> >> I passed my one-year/no period mark a couple weeks ago,
> >> so i guess i'm done. Still have peri symptoms.
>
> >>> On Feb 8, 1:41 pm, nickelshrink<nickelshr...@yahoo.com> *wrote:
> >>>> ellen wrote:
> >>>>> x-no-archive: yes
> >>>>> thanks, cathy. *yep the house has character. *hope we are worthy. *dh
> >>>>> redid the hardwood floors by himself, so do you want some tips, then?
> >>>>> you sure sound busy, but it seems like you are enjoying retirement.
> >>>>> so wonderful!
> >>>>> re: vespa - a friend said, 'hey, you can always sit on the vespa&
> >>>>> have a glass of wine& *look cool, but you can't drive a couch into
> >>>>> town.' *;-)
> >>>>> xo, ep
> >>>> Makes perfect sense to me!
> >>>> The Vespa and Trixie, *and* your wonderful new house
> >>>> are all ...well, wonderful!
> >>>> --
> >>>> pax,
> >>>> ruth
> >>>> Save trees AND money! *Buy used books!http://stores.ebay.com/Noir-and-More-Books-and-Trains
> >> --
>
> >> pax,
> >> ruth
>
> >> Save trees AND money! *Buy used books!http://stores.ebay.com/Noir-and-More-Books-and-Trains
>
> > i'm all for pretty OK! *& yay! for the official entrance into
> > meno!!!! * congrats!!!!! * *does it feel celebratory, in spite of
> > still having symptoms?
>
> I think i'll be more inclined to celebrate when the symptoms
> also fade - but then, i was lucky in having few period problems
> just more pms annoyance. And i'm not entirely glad to exit
> childbearing -- *I'd like to have have skipped my first marriage
> and to have borne kids. *But i'm also aware that my actual ability
> to carry a child to term undoubtedly ended quite awhile before
> age 55 (my last period was a week after my 55th birthday
> last year), so it's not a major thing. Regrets are a waste. My life
> is too good for me to complain much about and i'm a very lucky
> and valued stepmother.
>
> > have you experienced the fabled meno-zest? *or
> > is that mere legend?
>
> So far, no, but does it allegedly happen right away?
>
> > at any rate, i hope that the symptoms lessen the further you go
> > without periods.
>
> > but 4 parents in their 80s sounds like it could be a handful. *dh's
> > parents are in their early 80s & just starting to need help (& his
> > father has a significant health problem that will just worsen & will
> > require intensive caregiving.) *it's one of the reasons we remained
> > here in the state. *your reference to home - so are you sharing it
> > with some of the family, then?
>
> DH and i live in my parents' guest house, actually, pretty
> much to act as their assisted living - it's a good setup for all
> concerned! *Yeah, they're all a handful, but all mobile and
> mentally OK for now! *Bless�d, we are!
>
> --
> pax,
> ruth
>
> Save trees AND money! *Buy used books!http://stores.ebay.com/Noir-and-More-Books-and-Trains

well, i understand the whole coming to terms with exiting the
childbearing years. i was thinking about that yesterday as trixie & i
were playing with the children next door.

there are things i wish would/could have been different. but i am
with you as well with not spending time with regrets. & looking to
the good things inherent in our lives.

as far as meno-zest, if it does exist, i'm sure it doesn't happen
right away. but i do hope it's out there. some days i think i know
what it is. but this has been one slow transition... glad you are
stepping closer each day.

the current home arrangement does sound like a good set-up for
everyone. i'm sure i'll have some real estate suggestions when it
comes time for your detroit retirement dream ;o)

xo, ep