Speaking of great jeans...

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Just got my new Levi midrise straight 552s delivered yesterday, and they
kick ass. I'm kind of pissed that Levi's are cut so much smaller;
these run a full size smaller than my year old Levi's, but they're so
comfortable, and flattering that I don't care.

They're just about 1/2 - 1" below my belly button, my favorite fit, and
very long and lean looking.

Gonna see how may colors I can order these in!

Susan

On Nov 25, 2:56 pm, Susan <neverm...@nomail.com> wrote:
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>
> Just got my new Levi midrise straight 552s delivered yesterday, and they
> kick ass. I'm kind of pissed that Levi's are cut so much smaller;
> these run a full size smaller than my year old Levi's, but they're so
> comfortable, and flattering that I don't care.
>
> They're just about 1/2 - 1" below my belly button, my favorite fit, and
> very long and lean looking.
>
> Gonna see how may colors I can order these in!
>
> Susan

yay! that sounds like the kind of fit i am looking for, so i am going
to check em out as well. now, do you know where i can get kick ass
genes?

ellen

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ellen wrote:

> yay! that sounds like the kind of fit i am looking for, so i am going
> to check em out as well. now, do you know where i can get kick ass
> genes?
>

Wish I did; they scraped the bottom of the gene barrel when my parents
made me.

Susan

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 14:56:52 -0500, Susan <nevermind@nomail.com>
wrote:

>Just got my new Levi midrise straight 552s delivered yesterday, and they
> kick ass. I'm kind of pissed that Levi's are cut so much smaller;
>these run a full size smaller than my year old Levi's, but they're so
>comfortable, and flattering that I don't care.

Ah, what is that smaller size? (I think I will regret asking)

>
>They're just about 1/2 - 1" below my belly button, my favorite fit, and
>very long and lean looking.
>
I KNOW I will regret asking.

>Gonna see how may colors I can order these in!

Hey, I do this.

Dana

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 14:56:52 -0500, Susan <nevermind@nomail.com>
wrote:

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>
>Just got my new Levi midrise straight 552s delivered yesterday, and they
> kick ass. I'm kind of pissed that Levi's are cut so much smaller;
>these run a full size smaller than my year old Levi's, but they're so
>comfortable, and flattering that I don't care.

I'm not going to wear an american brand jeans. The extra money the
dare to get out of my pocket is shameful. The dare to ask +/_ 75% more
over here!

R

Ratatosk, Jola
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ratatosk wrote:

> I'm not going to wear an american brand jeans. The extra money the
> dare to get out of my pocket is shameful. The dare to ask +/_ 75% more
> over here!
>

Ouch, I don't blame you!

Susan

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Dana© wrote:

> Ah, what is that smaller size? (I think I will regret asking)

Dana, I lost weight due to illness a while back and was wearing 6 in
Levi's, and can still wear one pair of those, but mostly I wear 8s in
everything now, except for the new Levi's, which are a snug 10, whereas
I need a belt for any of my old 10s.

>
>
>>They're just about 1/2 - 1" below my belly button, my favorite fit, and
>>very long and lean looking.
>>
>
> I KNOW I will regret asking.

I said that because they make me look much longer and leaner, if I take
them off, I look short and average. :-)

>
>
>>Gonna see how may colors I can order these in!
>
>
> Hey, I do this.

Go check them out!

Susan

"Susan" <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote in message
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>
> ratatosk wrote:
>
>> I'm not going to wear an american brand jeans. The extra money the
>> dare to get out of my pocket is shameful. The dare to ask +/_ 75% more
>> over here!
>>
>
> Ouch, I don't blame you!
>
> Susan

An English friend recently visited NYC - they bought a bunch of ~$30 Levis
while here; said the same pairs each sell for ~$120 equivalent at home! I'm
wondering if LLBean jeans (what I wear) would be the same price or higher; I
*think* they sell abroad??

Cathy

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Cathy F. wrote:

> An English friend recently visited NYC - they bought a bunch of ~$30 Levis
> while here; said the same pairs each sell for ~$120 equivalent at home! I'm
> wondering if LLBean jeans (what I wear) would be the same price or higher; I
> *think* they sell abroad??

Right now, the dollar is so low that *everything* is a huge sale for
visitors from abroad!

My relatives from Oz go nuts buying clothes here, too.

Susan

Cathy F. <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:

> "Susan" <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > ratatosk wrote:
> >
> >> I'm not going to wear an american brand jeans. The extra money the
> >> dare to get out of my pocket is shameful. The dare to ask +/_ 75% more
> >> over here!
> >>
> >
> > Ouch, I don't blame you!
> >
> > Susan
>
> An English friend recently visited NYC - they bought a bunch of ~$30 Levis
> while here; said the same pairs each sell for ~$120 equivalent at home!

Perhaps because the Levi's brand still represents quality here in
Europe? (Walmart's not ubiquitous here.) They are usually the most
expensive jeans in Norway.

> I'm wondering if LLBean jeans (what I wear) would be the same price or
> higher; I *think* they sell abroad??

They ship mail order abroad, but AFAICT have no retail stores outside
the US. I've never seen their brand here in Europe, with the exception
of my own rucksack (my aunt used to work for LL Bean).

--
Keera in Norway * Think big and then ask for more.
http://home.online.no/~kafox/

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:53:29 -0500, Susan <nevermind@nomail.com>
wrote:

>Dana, I lost weight due to illness a while back and was wearing 6 in
>Levi's, and can still wear one pair of those, but mostly I wear 8s in
>everything now, except for the new Levi's, which are a snug 10, whereas
>I need a belt for any of my old 10s.


Sorry you were ill, but I can't count how many times I have wished for
a sickness so I could lose weight. It's always a joke until you
actually get sick.

>I said that because they make me look much longer and leaner, if I take
>them off, I look short and average. :-)

Wish I could find just one thing that made me look longer or
leaner....I would buy them by the gross.

Dana
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

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Dana© wrote:

> Sorry you were ill, but I can't count how many times I have wished for
> a sickness so I could lose weight. It's always a joke until you
> actually get sick.

Yeah, but believe me, I *am* grateful it happened; I couldn't lose those
extra lbs for years even on low carb, which just kept me from gaining
the way I did on 800 cal per day on high carb.

> Wish I could find just one thing that made me look longer or
> leaner....I would buy them by the gross.

Try the Levi's 552 straights. If you like much higher waisted, try DKNY
high skinny jeans from Macys' I can't do the Mom Waist thing. :-)

Susan

Cathy F. wrote:
> "Susan" <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> ratatosk wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not going to wear an american brand jeans. The extra money the
>>> dare to get out of my pocket is shameful. The dare to ask +/_ 75% more
>>> over here!
>>>
>> Ouch, I don't blame you!
>>
>> Susan
>
> An English friend recently visited NYC - they bought a bunch of ~$30 Levis
> while here; said the same pairs each sell for ~$120 equivalent at home! I'm
> wondering if LLBean jeans (what I wear) would be the same price or higher; I
> *think* they sell abroad??
>


Never seen LLBean clothing here in the UK. Not to say it isn't for
sale, just that I've never seen any.


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Susan <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote:

> I can't do the Mom Waist thing. :-)

What is the Mom Waist?

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Keera Ann Fox wrote:
> Susan <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I can't do the Mom Waist thing. :-)
>
>
> What is the Mom Waist?
>

:-)


http://tinyurl.com/296m7n

Be sure to click on the pick and read the answer.


Susan

Susan wrote:
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>> What is the Mom Waist?

> http://tinyurl.com/296m7n
>
> Be sure to click on the pick and read the answer.

I have to say... those "mom jeans" look a whole lot better than
low risers with a donut hanging over the tops. Especially if
said donut is bare flesh left exposed by a cropped top.

Just call me old fashioned... I never took to the masculine
version with boxer shorts hanging out the top and the crotch at
knee level either.

FurPaw

--
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense
a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,
those who are cold and are not clothed."
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FurPaw wrote:

> I have to say... those "mom jeans" look a whole lot better than low
> risers with a donut hanging over the tops. Especially if said donut is
> bare flesh left exposed by a cropped top.

I agree that the latter is offensive, but I think they're equally
unflattering. It's not as if they're the only two choices. A mid rise
straight leg in a dark wash will cover just fine.

>
> Just call me old fashioned... I never took to the masculine version with
> boxer shorts hanging out the top and the crotch at knee level either.

You seem to be saying that wearing more flattering jeans is equivalent
to ghetto street style? You can't imagine that's what I'm suggesting
(or doing???) here?? :-)

The perfect mid ground for looking great *and* appropriately attired,
IMO, is a mid rise, just below the belly button, a dark wash only, and a
straight, or even a skinny leg. Comfort, coverage, flattering, cheap;
what's not to love?

To me, Mom Jeans say "I give up!"

Susan

Susan wrote:
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>
> FurPaw wrote:
>
>> I have to say... those "mom jeans" look a whole lot better than low
>> risers with a donut hanging over the tops. Especially if said donut
>> is bare flesh left exposed by a cropped top.
>
> I agree that the latter is offensive, but I think they're equally
> unflattering. It's not as if they're the only two choices. A mid rise
> straight leg in a dark wash will cover just fine.

I'm thinking of lower-cut jeans than you describe - but even
mid-rise jeans look tacky to me if they're worn by someone with a
belly roll and a crop top displaying same. I don't think the mom
jeans look bad - that's why I'm old fashioned!

>> Just call me old fashioned... I never took to the masculine version
>> with boxer shorts hanging out the top and the crotch at knee level
>> either.
>
> You seem to be saying that wearing more flattering jeans is equivalent
> to ghetto street style? You can't imagine that's what I'm suggesting
> (or doing???) here?? :-)

I'm saying that some low-rise jeans on some women are as
unflattering as ghetto street style on some boys/men (ok, ALL
boys/men).

And some low slung jeans look just fine on some women.

> The perfect mid ground for looking great *and* appropriately attired,
> IMO, is a mid rise, just below the belly button, a dark wash only, and a
> straight, or even a skinny leg. Comfort, coverage, flattering, cheap;
> what's not to love?
>
> To me, Mom Jeans say "I give up!"

Not being much of a follower of fashion, I must be missing the
nuances here.

FurPaw


--
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense
a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,
those who are cold and are not clothed."
- Dwight D. Eisenhower

To reply, unleash the dog.

Susan <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote:

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>
> Keera Ann Fox wrote:
> > Susan <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I can't do the Mom Waist thing. :-)
> >
> >
> > What is the Mom Waist?
> >
>
> :-)
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/296m7n
>
> Be sure to click on the pick and read the answer.

Got it. I see a lot of seniors in the US wearing those, too.

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http://home.online.no/~kafox/

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Keera Ann Fox wrote:

> Got it. I see a lot of seniors in the US wearing those, too.
>

YES.

Susan

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FurPaw wrote:

> I'm thinking of lower-cut jeans than you describe - but even mid-rise
> jeans look tacky to me if they're worn by someone with a belly roll and
> a crop top displaying same. I don't think the mom jeans look bad -
> that's why I'm old fashioned!

But the mom jeans are the ones that emphasize a belly roll, the mid rise
minimize its appearance. Also, the light wash jeans completely put a
freaking headlight on the belly roll. Frankly, I don't care to see
anyone with any kind of build wearing a crop top off the beach or out of
the gym. I'm talking about wearing them with turtlenecks and Ts or blouses.

> I'm saying that some low-rise jeans on some women are as unflattering as
> ghetto street style on some boys/men (ok, ALL boys/men).

I'm saying that mid rise and low rise are completely different looks.

>
> And some low slung jeans look just fine on some women.

At some point, some of them are too low on anyone, I think.

> Not being much of a follower of fashion, I must be missing the nuances
> here.

I'm not at all a fashion follower, but I do feel much better in clothes
that I'm comfortable in, number one, and that fit well and make me look
the best I can. There are also some flattering high rise jeans, not all
high rises are mom jeans, which are too light in wash and are cut in
such a way that they completely make your lower ab roll take a starring
role. They also have no back pockets, making butts look twice as big as
they otherwise do.

You can spend the exact same moderate $$ to get jeans you look good in
and feel comfortable in as ones that you don't, in a variety of cuts.

Susan

Susan wrote:
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>
> Keera Ann Fox wrote:
>> Susan <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I can't do the Mom Waist thing. :-)
>>
>>
>> What is the Mom Waist?
>>
>
> :-)
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/296m7n
>
> Be sure to click on the pick and read the answer.
>
>

Oh dear - "high waist" jeans and trousers are to be really
fashionable this year, because fashion designers have finally realised
that the real women who wear their products, unlike models, tend to
have "muffin tops" in low waist jeans and it isn't attractive.


In fact we may even get those "grown on" waists that were fashionable
back in the late 70s early 80s!

(I got a gorgeous pair of high waist black flannel wide leg trousers
from F&F at Tesco - they look gorgeous with a white tucked in shirt)

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Jette wrote:

> Oh dear - "high waist" jeans and trousers are to be really fashionable
> this year, because fashion designers have finally realised that the real
> women who wear their products, unlike models, tend to have "muffin tops"
> in low waist jeans and it isn't attractive.

Muffin tops often look better in mid rise jeans, if sized correctly,
because they're not exploding out beneath a waistband. This isn't an
issue of high vs. low, it's about the styling, pleats, cut and color.
There are plenty of flattering (on some) high rise jeans with dark
washes, back pockets, no pleats and flattering cuts. Mom jeans have
none of those attributes.

>
>
> In fact we may even get those "grown on" waists that were fashionable
> back in the late 70s early 80s!

Definitely some are showing them. I've got a shortish middle torso, so
high rise or wide waists aren't good on me at all.

Susan

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> Cathy F. wrote:
>> "Susan" <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> ratatosk wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm not going to wear an american brand jeans. The extra money the
>>>> dare to get out of my pocket is shameful. The dare to ask +/_ 75% more
>>>> over here!
>>>>
>>> Ouch, I don't blame you!
>>>
>>> Susan
>>
>> An English friend recently visited NYC - they bought a bunch of ~$30
>> Levis while here; said the same pairs each sell for ~$120 equivalent at
>> home! I'm wondering if LLBean jeans (what I wear) would be the same
>> price or higher; I *think* they sell abroad??
>>
>
>
> Never seen LLBean clothing here in the UK. Not to say it isn't for sale,
> just that I've never seen any.

I buy LLBean only through catalogue/on-line. http://www.llbean.com/ I don't
know if they have stores beyond the one up in Maine (where they're based).

Cathy

>
>
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"Susan" <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote in message
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>
> FurPaw wrote:
>
>> I'm thinking of lower-cut jeans than you describe - but even mid-rise
>> jeans look tacky to me if they're worn by someone with a belly roll and a
>> crop top displaying same. I don't think the mom jeans look bad - that's
>> why I'm old fashioned!
>
> But the mom jeans are the ones that emphasize a belly roll,

Not IMO. See my other post.

the mid rise
> minimize its appearance.

On me, they hit where it just makes my abdomen look even larger than it is.

Cathy

Also, the light wash jeans completely put a
> freaking headlight on the belly roll. Frankly, I don't care to see anyone
> with any kind of build wearing a crop top off the beach or out of the gym.
> I'm talking about wearing them with turtlenecks and Ts or blouses.
>
>> I'm saying that some low-rise jeans on some women are as unflattering as
>> ghetto street style on some boys/men (ok, ALL boys/men).
>
> I'm saying that mid rise and low rise are completely different looks.
>
>>
>> And some low slung jeans look just fine on some women.
>
> At some point, some of them are too low on anyone, I think.
>
>> Not being much of a follower of fashion, I must be missing the nuances
>> here.
>
> I'm not at all a fashion follower, but I do feel much better in clothes
> that I'm comfortable in, number one, and that fit well and make me look
> the best I can. There are also some flattering high rise jeans, not all
> high rises are mom jeans, which are too light in wash and are cut in such
> a way that they completely make your lower ab roll take a starring role.
> They also have no back pockets, making butts look twice as big as they
> otherwise do.
>
> You can spend the exact same moderate $$ to get jeans you look good in and
> feel comfortable in as ones that you don't, in a variety of cuts.
>
> Susan

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> Keera Ann Fox wrote:
>> Susan <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I can't do the Mom Waist thing. :-)
>>
>>
>> What is the Mom Waist?
>>
>
> :-)
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/296m7n
>
> Be sure to click on the pick and read the answer.

In that case, most of my jeans are "mom waist" ones. If they come below my
waist - by even a little, I can't wear a top tucked in - the lower rise
just accentuates my sticky-out abdomen. Makes me look horrendous.

Cathy


>
>
> Susan

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Cathy F. wrote:

> Not IMO. See my other post.

I understand and believe you, but remember it's not just about waist
rise, it's also styling, like pleats, light wash, pockets, the dreaded
tapered leg that makes everyone look like a football.


> On me, they hit where it just makes my abdomen look even larger than it is.
>

Then I would definitely not wear them.

Susan

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>
> Cathy F. wrote:
>
>> Not IMO. See my other post.
>
> I understand and believe you, but remember it's not just about waist rise,
> it's also styling, like pleats, light wash, pockets, the dreaded tapered
> leg that makes everyone look like a football.

But.. I wear a tapered leg. I have long legs, & they (tapered legs) 'work'.

>
>> On me, they hit where it just makes my abdomen look even larger than it
>> is.
>>
>
> Then I would definitely not wear them.

I don't. ;-) Well, I have a couple of pairs, but wear untucked tops with
them for camouflage.

Cathy
>
> Susan

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>>
>> Cathy F. wrote:
>>
>>> Not IMO. See my other post.
>>
>> I understand and believe you, but remember it's not just about waist
>> rise, it's also styling, like pleats, light wash, pockets, the dreaded
>> tapered leg that makes everyone look like a football.
>
> But.. I wear a tapered leg. I have long legs, & they (tapered legs)
> 'work'.

These are my current favorites - in black stretch (tall).
http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/sto...feat=503232-tn
or...
http://tinyurl.com/3ambrs

Cathy




>>> On me, they hit where it just makes my abdomen look even larger than it
>>> is.
>>>
>>
>> Then I would definitely not wear them.
>
> I don't. ;-) Well, I have a couple of pairs, but wear untucked tops with
> them for camouflage.
>
> Cathy
>>
>> Susan
>
>

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Cathy F. wrote:

> But.. I wear a tapered leg. I have long legs, & they (tapered legs) 'work'.

Well, if you're rounder in the middle and have long legs, you're wearing
a very unflattering shape. If you wear pants that fall straight down
from the hip, you de-emphasize the waist. I also never tucked anything
in when I had a cortisol driven protruding stomach, just emphasizes
that, too. Nothing clingy, either. Just hip length fitted stuff or
empire waisted stuff that pulls away from the body and is comfortably
unclingy.

> I don't. ;-) Well, I have a couple of pairs, but wear untucked tops with

That's the whole idea! If you think your middle is large, why emphasize
its width by tapering your pants leg and creating so much contrast in
width? Why tuck things in a therefore paint a line right at your widest
part?

Susan

Susan wrote:
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>
> Cathy F. wrote:
>
>> Not IMO. See my other post.
>
> I understand and believe you, but remember it's not just about waist
> rise, it's also styling, like pleats, light wash, pockets, the dreaded
> tapered leg that makes everyone look like a football.
>

Light wash - stone wash, ice-bleach - it's very difficult to find
jeans in any other shade _except_ what I'd call "old lady jeans". Old
lady jeans are dark indigo blue, straight leg or "boot cut"
(semi-flares) with partly elasticated waist (usually elastic at the
back). The "stylish" jeans tend to be paler and have "distressed"
bleaching and (this year at least) are either "skinny" or "boyfriend"
cut. Wide legs are just starting to come in and are supposed to be
"the thing" next season.

I've only ever seen pleats on jeans on the sort of middle aged men
whose mothers' still make their sandwiches and iron their clothing.



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Cathy F. wrote:

> These are my current favorites - in black stretch (tall).
> http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/sto...feat=503232-tn
> or...
> http://tinyurl.com/3ambrs
>

I guess I think if you could get them in a straight, not tapered leg,
you might have a better jean. I'm DYING for legs that long!

For cheap straight legs, I like Levi's 505 straight, slightly below the
belly button, less slim legged than the new 552s I just raved about.

Susan

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Jette wrote:

> Light wash - stone wash, ice-bleach - it's very difficult to find jeans
> in any other shade _except_ what I'd call "old lady jeans". Old lady
> jeans are dark indigo blue, straight leg or "boot cut" (semi-flares)
> with partly elasticated waist (usually elastic at the back). The
> "stylish" jeans tend to be paler and have "distressed" bleaching and
> (this year at least) are either "skinny" or "boyfriend" cut. Wide legs
> are just starting to come in and are supposed to be "the thing" next
> season.

There are virtually no fashionable jeans in those light washes. I'll
wear a dark stonewash, but never a light blue jean.

I don't care who thinks wide legs are hot, I don't follow trends and
wouldn't wear them on a dare. I wear what's comfortable and what
flatters me, usually Levi's. I'm so glad the very low rises are fading
and the just below the bb (and above the ass crack) are back.

> I've only ever seen pleats on jeans on the sort of middle aged men whose
> mothers' still make their sandwiches and iron their clothing.
>

Then you didn't look at my link!

Susan

Susan wrote:
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>
> Jette wrote:
>
>> Light wash - stone wash, ice-bleach - it's very difficult to find
>> jeans in any other shade _except_ what I'd call "old lady jeans". Old
>> lady jeans are dark indigo blue, straight leg or "boot cut"
>> (semi-flares) with partly elasticated waist (usually elastic at the
>> back). The "stylish" jeans tend to be paler and have "distressed"
>> bleaching and (this year at least) are either "skinny" or "boyfriend"
>> cut. Wide legs are just starting to come in and are supposed to be
>> "the thing" next season.
>
> There are virtually no fashionable jeans in those light washes. I'll
> wear a dark stonewash, but never a light blue jean.

Dark blue jeans = "old lady jeans", as sold by Marks and Spencers and
British Home Stores. And Asda (Walmart) in their ultra cheap £3
(about $6) jeans.

Or that "dirty denim" blue/black that the designer brands overcharge for?

>
> I don't care who thinks wide legs are hot, I don't follow trends and
> wouldn't wear them on a dare. I wear what's comfortable and what
> flatters me, usually Levi's. I'm so glad the very low rises are fading
> and the just below the bb (and above the ass crack) are back.
>

Last time I was in the Levi store (there's a big one on Princes
Street, Edinburgh), they were pushing those "boyfriend"/slouch wide
legs, and the "engineered" jeans that have strange side seams.
Nothing I'd actually wear. Nothing I can see anyone over the age of
20 being able to wear and look good in. When was that? Oh, just last
month when I was looking for new jeans. Wasn't planning to pay a
hundred quid for a pair of jeans, however, even if they had something
I liked, so I "made my excuses and left", as the old saying goes.

>> I've only ever seen pleats on jeans on the sort of middle aged men
>> whose mothers' still make their sandwiches and iron their clothing.
>>
>
> Then you didn't look at my link!


No, I was talking about _real_ life.

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On Nov 26, 4:37 pm, Susan <neverm...@nomail.com> wrote:
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>
> Cathy F. wrote:
> > These are my current favorites - in black stretch (tall).
> >http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/sto...yDisplay?page=...
> > or...
> >http://tinyurl.com/3ambrs
>
> I guess I think if you could get them in a straight, not tapered leg,
> you might have a better jean. I'm DYING for legs that long!
>
> For cheap straight legs, I like Levi's 505 straight, slightly below the
> belly button, less slim legged than the new 552s I just raved about.
>
> Susan

this entire discussion, while informative, is also cracking me up.
some wonderful images & turns of phrases. 'the dreaded taper leg' is
just outstanding. & i am fond of jette's pleat/middle aged mom men
correlation. before a few days ago, i didn't even know what muffin
top was.

& i guess i better take furpaw's xmas present back to the store - it
was a nice pair of ultra low rise jeans with 'menobabe' stenciled on
the butt.

ellen

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ellen wrote:

> this entire discussion, while informative, is also cracking me up.
> some wonderful images & turns of phrases. 'the dreaded taper leg' is
> just outstanding.

I know, I watch too much "What Not to Wear." It's very helpful, because
for the same bucks and comfort, your clothes can make you look better
than your shape or worse than your shape.

> & i am fond of jette's pleat/middle aged mom men
> correlation.

That was very amusing. :-)

>before a few days ago, i didn't even know what muffin
> top was.

I had a HYOOGE one for two weeks last month; cortisol peaked and I
gained 4 inches on my waist overnight, almost. Went away two weeks
later just as suddenly. Even in the same size, I even had a fat roll
above the waist on my back, that was NEW. Only dropped three lbs, but
lost all 4 inches. I'd measured because I was so amazed at how big my
stomach looked one a.m. That's when I climbed the mountain, clearly a
high cortisol period for me. I've actually discovered that if I take
enough time released potassium and add some magnesium, I lose lbs of
water bloat.

>
> & i guess i better take furpaw's xmas present back to the store - it
> was a nice pair of ultra low rise jeans with 'menobabe' stenciled on
> the butt.

ROFL!

Susan

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Jette wrote:

>
> Dark blue jeans = "old lady jeans", as sold by Marks and Spencers and
> Br