Test out the meds before you buy more online - now an online lab provides quantitative analytical services

Many of us are aware of the risks involved in buying medications from
online pharmacies. They are cheap, yes. But, dont we often wonder if
the tablets are real and contain what they supposed to have. Wouldn't
it be great if you not only save money buying the meds cheap online
but also have the peace of mind knowing they are authentic. Test the
meds before you make big purchase is a no brainer. Now, there is an
online lab service that provides quantitative analyses of the
medicinal formulations. The website address is www.pharmcabinet.com.

How can you trust them not trying to scam you? They are aware of your
concern. To prove they are legit, they suggest that you send in
tablets you obtained from your physician or a reputable local pharmacy
as your own gold standard reference, along with the online purchase.
They insist that you DONT tell them which one is which. In other
words, they want you to do the test that is blinded to them! This way,
you can judge whether their services are up to par or not. If your
standard samples do not come back spot on the labeled amount, they
would either ofter to test it again for free or refund your money.

Go to www.PharmCabinet.com to test the drugs you buy from online
pharmacies.

On Feb 11, 4:28 pm, stuartpitt7...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Many of us are aware of the risks involved in buying medications from
> online pharmacies. They are cheap, yes. But, dont we often wonder if
> the tablets are real and contain what they supposed to have. Wouldn't
> it be great if you not only save money buying the meds cheap online
> but also have the peace of mind knowing they are authentic. Test the
> meds before you make big purchase is a no brainer. Now, there is an
> online lab service that provides quantitative analyses of the
> medicinal formulations. The website address iswww.pharmcabinet.com.
>
> How can you trust them not trying to scam you? They are aware of your
> concern. To prove they are legit, they suggest that you send in
> tablets you obtained from your physician or a reputable local pharmacy
> as your own gold standard reference, along with the online purchase.
> They insist that you DONT tell them which one is which. In other
> words, they want you to do the test that is blinded to them! This way,
> you can judge whether their services are up to par or not. If your
> standard samples do not come back spot on the labeled amount, they
> would either ofter to test it again for free or refund your money.
>
> Go towww.PharmCabinet.comto test the drugs you buy from online
> pharmacies.

I have checked out this site as I buy my own meds and those for my
parents off of the net often. I often am leery about what I have been
getting for my money. Yes I saved a lot of money buying online. But it
would be great if I knew what I got for the bucks. This lab www.pharmcabinet.com
provides precisely the services I have been looking for. I will try it
out. Initially I would do a blinded testing as they suggested on their
site. This way, I figure they will not be able to just tell me what I
want to hear as they don't know which sample is which. Once they have
earned my trust, I will use them more.

On Feb 12, 2:28 am, stuartpitt7...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Many of us are aware of the risks involved in buying medications from
> online pharmacies. They are cheap, yes. But, dont we often wonder if
> the tablets are real and contain what they supposed to have. Wouldn't
> it be great if you not only save money buying the meds cheap online
> but also have the peace of mind knowing they are authentic. Test the
> meds before you make big purchase is a no brainer. Now, there is an
> online lab service that provides quantitative analyses of the
> medicinal formulations. The website address iswww.pharmcabinet.com.
>
> How can you trust them not trying to scam you? They are aware of your
> concern. To prove they are legit, they suggest that you send in
> tablets you obtained from your physician or a reputable local pharmacy
> as your own gold standard reference, along with the online purchase.
> They insist that you DONT tell them which one is which. In other
> words, they want you to do the test that is blinded to them! This way,
> you can judge whether their services are up to par or not. If your
> standard samples do not come back spot on the labeled amount, they
> would either ofter to test it again for free or refund your money.
>
> Go towww.PharmCabinet.comto test the drugs you buy from online
> pharmacies.

So many ways to make money. So little time....

JustGB

I have just tried out the lab services provided by www.pharmacabinet.
com. I think if you have a simlar mindset as mine you would feel that
the money is well spent on the service. Here is what I did. I bought a
10 day supply of Lipitor 40 mg (10 pills) from an online pharmacy and
sent in 6 pills along with 6 pills of Lipitor 20 mg I obtained from my
doc as samples. BTW, I made the samples blinded to the lab (I simply
labeled them as Liptior tablets from source #1 and source #2). I
received the results back from the lab with the online purchase right
about twice the amount as the sample Lipitor (40 mg online purchase vs
20 mg standard). Immediately I followed up with a purchase for a 180
day supply at the online pharmacy from the same manufacturer (same
batch number - make sure you ask for the same batch number). I figure
my net cost saving for this transaction, minus the outlay for the lab
test, is about $280 for a 180 day supply.

My calculations were based on the CVS.com online price of $680 (for
180 Lipitor 40 mg pills) and the online pharmacy's price of $280 (for
180 Lipitor 40 mg pills). The difference of $400 is offset by the lab
test cost of $120 ($75 1st sample + $40 second sample +$5 mailing).
Hence, my net saving is about $280. I could have saved $560 for a 1
year worth of supply.

My plan is that as long as I can buy from the same online place and
from the same manufacturer for the same drug I have already tested
with pharmcabinet, I will take the risk of not testing it more than a
couple of times a year. For a new medication I want to buy, I will
adopt the above strategy: a small purchase first followed up with a
larger order, after the results coming back positive. I think this
will save me quite some dough over long term. BTW, I will recommend
the site to set up a customer blog so that good online places can be
shared among the customers.

On 4 Mar 2007 11:14:09 -0800, "Paul" <PaulRFowler@gmail.com> wrote:

>I have just tried out the lab services provided by www.pharmacabinet.
>com. I think if you have a simlar mindset as mine you would feel that
>the money is well spent on the service. Here is what I did. I bought a
>10 day supply of Lipitor 40 mg (10 pills) from an online pharmacy and
>sent in 6 pills along with 6 pills of Lipitor 20 mg I obtained from my
>doc as samples. BTW, I made the samples blinded to the lab (I simply
>labeled them as Liptior tablets from source #1 and source #2). I
>received the results back from the lab with the online purchase right
>about twice the amount as the sample Lipitor (40 mg online purchase vs
>20 mg standard). Immediately I followed up with a purchase for a 180
>day supply at the online pharmacy from the same manufacturer (same
>batch number - make sure you ask for the same batch number). I figure
>my net cost saving for this transaction, minus the outlay for the lab
>test, is about $280 for a 180 day supply.
>
>My calculations were based on the CVS.com online price of $680 (for
>180 Lipitor 40 mg pills) and the online pharmacy's price of $280 (for
>180 Lipitor 40 mg pills). The difference of $400 is offset by the lab
>test cost of $120 ($75 1st sample + $40 second sample +$5 mailing).
>Hence, my net saving is about $280. I could have saved $560 for a 1
>year worth of supply.
>
>My plan is that as long as I can buy from the same online place and
>from the same manufacturer for the same drug I have already tested
>with pharmcabinet, I will take the risk of not testing it more than a
>couple of times a year. For a new medication I want to buy, I will
>adopt the above strategy: a small purchase first followed up with a
>larger order, after the results coming back positive. I think this
>will save me quite some dough over long term. BTW, I will recommend
>the site to set up a customer blog so that good online places can be
>shared among the customers.


Meds are not included in your healthcare insurance?

R

Ratatosk,Jola
--

If you need to e-mail me, replace "don'tbother" with "zedicus"

In article <avrmu2hicjebrlkkbokcdvd5ob6istnc8j@4ax.com>,
ratatosk <ratatosk@don'tbother.tweakdsl.nl> wrote:

> Meds are not included in your healthcare insurance?

That post is spam I've seen in other newsgroups under different posting
names.

Priscilla

ratatosk wrote:

>
> Meds are not included in your healthcare insurance?
>

One of the joys of living in the Grand Old USA!


Dear Valued Customer!
Thanks for signing up with
NeverUseful Insurance!
For your 400-dollar-per-month payment
you will get half of your hospitalization
expenses paid for by us! Aren't we
wonderful?
This of course starts AFTER you pay
your $2000 deductible!
This does not include doctor's-office
visits. This does not include tests. We
know that a cat scan costs $4000 nowadays
and we're just rully rully sorry 'bout that!
This also does not cover prescriptions.
If you were to spring for the $500-per-month
health plan, we will cover generic medications
only. We understand that generics do not exist
in the US for many medications. Oh well! We
will be glad to send a sympathy card to your next
of kin, if you bleed to death because you can't
afford $1000-per-month for name brand
mesalamine.
Please die quickly so we will not have to pay
anything at all. Have a nice day!
Love,
Silksuit Poopsbullion
CEO


--
pax,
ruth


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nickelshrink wrote:
> ratatosk wrote:
>
>>
>> Meds are not included in your healthcare insurance?
>>
>
> One of the joys of living in the Grand Old USA!
>
>
> Dear Valued Customer!
> Thanks for signing up with
> NeverUseful Insurance!
> For your 400-dollar-per-month payment
> you will get half of your hospitalization
> expenses paid for by us! Aren't we
> wonderful?
> This of course starts AFTER you pay
> your $2000 deductible!
> This does not include doctor's-office
> visits. This does not include tests. We
> know that a cat scan costs $4000 nowadays
> and we're just rully rully sorry 'bout that!
> This also does not cover prescriptions.
> If you were to spring for the $500-per-month
> health plan, we will cover generic medications
> only. We understand that generics do not exist
> in the US for many medications. Oh well! We
> will be glad to send a sympathy card to your next
> of kin, if you bleed to death because you can't
> afford $1000-per-month for name brand
> mesalamine.
> Please die quickly so we will not have to pay
> anything at all. Have a nice day!
> Love,
> Silksuit Poopsbullion
> CEO

I would be ROFLing if I weren't crying... it's so true! And that
is for people who can afford ANY insurance - more than 46 million
of us can't.

My retiree plan switched this year to one in which I pay no
co-payments (e.g., I pay the full amount) on everything (office
visits, tests, meds) until I've paid $2200. Only then do co-pays
kick in. I still haven't figured out the rest of it - they've
sent me a 4" stack of 8.5 X 11" documentation to read. All this
for $280/month for Hubster and I.

And I'm one of the lucky ones who still has insurance, against
some catastrophic illnesses and accidents. Not that I'm wishing
for it, but that would be the only way I'll get any benefit out
of this plan!!!

And I'm one of the lucky ones whose retirement plan hasn't
canceled the health insurance entirely. Yet. With a history of
cancer (8 years ago), I can't get private insurance.

And I'm aware that this plan isn't as bad as some.

FurPaw

--
My family values don't involve depleted uranium.

To reply, unleash the dog.

FurPaw wrote:
> nickelshrink wrote:
>> ratatosk wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Meds are not included in your healthcare insurance?
>>>
>>
>> One of the joys of living in the Grand Old USA!
>>
>>
>> Dear Valued Customer!
>> Thanks for signing up with
>> NeverUseful Insurance!
>> For your 400-dollar-per-month payment
>> you will get half of your hospitalization
>> expenses paid for by us! Aren't we
>> wonderful?
>> This of course starts AFTER you pay
>> your $2000 deductible!
>> This does not include doctor's-office
>> visits. This does not include tests. We
>> know that a cat scan costs $4000 nowadays
>> and we're just rully rully sorry 'bout that!
>> This also does not cover prescriptions.
>> If you were to spring for the $500-per-month
>> health plan, we will cover generic medications
>> only. We understand that generics do not exist
>> in the US for many medications. Oh well! We
>> will be glad to send a sympathy card to your next
>> of kin, if you bleed to death because you can't
>> afford $1000-per-month for name brand
>> mesalamine.
>> Please die quickly so we will not have to pay
>> anything at all. Have a nice day!
>> Love,
>> Silksuit Poopsbullion
>> CEO
>
> I would be ROFLing if I weren't crying... it's so true! And that is for
> people who can afford ANY insurance - more than 46 million of us can't.

My brain intended, ....more than 46 million of people in the US
can't... but that wasn't what my fingers typed.

> My retiree plan switched this year to one in which I pay no co-payments
> (e.g., I pay the full amount) on everything (office visits, tests, meds)
> until I've paid $2200. Only then do co-pays kick in. I still haven't
> figured out the rest of it - they've sent me a 4" stack of 8.5 X 11"
> documentation to read. All this for $280/month for Hubster and I.
>
> And I'm one of the lucky ones who still has insurance, against some
> catastrophic illnesses and accidents. Not that I'm wishing for it, but
> that would be the only way I'll get any benefit out of this plan!!!
>
> And I'm one of the lucky ones whose retirement plan hasn't canceled the
> health insurance entirely. Yet. With a history of cancer (8 years
> ago), I can't get private insurance.
>
> And I'm aware that this plan isn't as bad as some.
>
> FurPaw
>


--
My family values don't involve depleted uranium.

To reply, unleash the dog.

On Mar 5, 4:18 am, FurPaw <furrealpaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> FurPaw wrote:
> > nickelshrink wrote:
> >> ratatosk wrote:
>
> >>> Meds are not included in your healthcare insurance?
>
> >> One of the joys of living in the Grand Old USA!
>
I> >> Dear Valued Customer!
> >> Thanks for signing up with
> >> NeverUseful Insurance!
> >> For your 400-dollar-per-month payment
> >> you will get half of your hospitalization
> >> expenses paid for by us! Aren't we
> >> wonderful?
> >> This of course starts AFTER you pay
> >> your $2000 deductible!
> >> This does not include doctor's-office
> >> visits. This does not include tests. We
> >> know that a cat scan costs $4000 nowadays
> >> and we're just rully rully sorry 'bout that!
> >> This also does not cover prescriptions.
> >> If you were to spring for the $500-per-month
> >> health plan, we will cover generic medications
> >> only. We understand that generics do not exist
> >> in the US for many medications. Oh well! We
> >> will be glad to send a sympathy card to your next
> >> of kin, if you bleed to death because you can't
> >> afford $1000-per-month for name brand
> >> mesalamine.
> >> Please die quickly so we will not have to pay
> >> anything at all. Have a nice day!
> >> Love,
> >> Silksuit Poopsbullion
> >> CEO
>
> > I would be ROFLing if I weren't crying... it's so true! And that is for
> > people who can afford ANY insurance - more than 46 million of us can't.
>
> My brain intended, ....more than 46 million of people in the US
> can't... but that wasn't what my fingers typed.
>
>
>
> > My retiree plan switched this year to one in which I pay no co-payments
> > (e.g., I pay the full amount) on everything (office visits, tests, meds)
> > until I've paid $2200. Only then do co-pays kick in. I still haven't
> > figured out the rest of it - they've sent me a 4" stack of 8.5 X 11"
> > documentation to read. All this for $280/month for Hubster and I.
>
> > And I'm one of the lucky ones who still has insurance, against some
> > catastrophic illnesses and accidents. Not that I'm wishing for it, but
> > that would be the only way I'll get any benefit out of this plan!!!
>
> > And I'm one of the lucky ones whose retirement plan hasn't canceled the
> > health insurance entirely. Yet. With a history of cancer (8 years
> > ago), I can't get private insurance.
>
> > And I'm aware that this plan isn't as bad as some.
>

Ironically (or not) this is in today's NYTimes:

Without Health Benefits, a Good Life Turns Fragile
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/05/us...pagewanted=all

JustGB

On Mar 4, 10:18 pm, "JustGB" <gettingb...@gmail.com> wrote:
The hubby & I have lived our entire adult lives without health
insurance. Neither of us ever had a job that offered it, so we just
got used to it. It hasn't been all bad. We've left no stone unturned
in our quest to eat and live healthy, and so far it's paying off. I
look around and see my insured friends with their atrocious diets,
wasting away in front of the TV as they trust doctors to save them
from themselves. My mom's endless medical merry-go-round will soon
end with an early death caused by one of three illnesses directly or
indirectly caused by medical interventions.
Of course I'm taking a chance, wending my uninsured way to age 65 (10
more years to Medicare). But if we make it we'll have ourselves to
thank, not the medical field.
And no, we can't fall back on any government program. We have a nest
egg we live on, that we'd have to spend first.
Wish us luck!
Les




> On Mar 5, 4:18 am, FurPaw <furrealpaw...@gmail.com> wrote:> FurPaw wrote:
> > > nickelshrink wrote:
> > >> ratatosk wrote:
>
> > >>> Meds are not included in your healthcare insurance?
>
> > >> One of the joys of living in the Grand Old USA!
>
> I> >> Dear Valued Customer!
>
>
>
>
>
> > >> Thanks for signing up with
> > >> NeverUseful Insurance!
> > >> For your 400-dollar-per-month payment
> > >> you will get half of your hospitalization
> > >> expenses paid for by us! Aren't we
> > >> wonderful?
> > >> This of course starts AFTER you pay
> > >> your $2000 deductible!
> > >> This does not include doctor's-office
> > >> visits. This does not include tests. We
> > >> know that a cat scan costs $4000 nowadays
> > >> and we're just rully rully sorry 'bout that!
> > >> This also does not cover prescriptions.
> > >> If you were to spring for the $500-per-month
> > >> health plan, we will cover generic medications
> > >> only. We understand that generics do not exist
> > >> in the US for many medications. Oh well! We
> > >> will be glad to send a sympathy card to your next
> > >> of kin, if you bleed to death because you can't
> > >> afford $1000-per-month for name brand
> > >> mesalamine.
> > >> Please die quickly so we will not have to pay
> > >> anything at all. Have a nice day!
> > >> Love,
> > >> Silksuit Poopsbullion
> > >> CEO
>
> > > I would be ROFLing if I weren't crying... it's so true! And that is for
> > > people who can afford ANY insurance - more than 46 million of us can't.
>
> > My brain intended, ....more than 46 million of people in the US
> > can't... but that wasn't what my fingers typed.
>
> > > My retiree plan switched this year to one in which I pay no co-payments
> > > (e.g., I pay the full amount) on everything (office visits, tests, meds)
> > > until I've paid $2200. Only then do co-pays kick in. I still haven't
> > > figured out the rest of it - they've sent me a 4" stack of 8.5 X 11"
> > > documentation to read. All this for $280/month for Hubster and I.
>
> > > And I'm one of the lucky ones who still has insurance, against some
> > > catastrophic illnesses and accidents. Not that I'm wishing for it, but
> > > that would be the only way I'll get any benefit out of this plan!!!
>
> > > And I'm one of the lucky ones whose retirement plan hasn't canceled the
> > > health insurance entirely. Yet. With a history of cancer (8 years
> > > ago), I can't get private insurance.
>
> > > And I'm aware that this plan isn't as bad as some.
>
> Ironically (or not) this is in today's NYTimes:
>
> Without Health Benefits, a Good Life Turns Fragilehttp://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/05/us/05uninsured.html?_r=1&oref=slogi...
>
> JustGB- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

On 9 Mar 2007 13:06:27 -0800, "sage hen" <desertnymph@cwo.com> wrote:

>On Mar 4, 10:18 pm, "JustGB" <gettingb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>The hubby & I have lived our entire adult lives without health
>insurance. Neither of us ever had a job that offered it, so we just
>got used to it. It hasn't been all bad. We've left no stone unturned
>in our quest to eat and live healthy, and so far it's paying off. I
>look around and see my insured friends with their atrocious diets,
>wasting away in front of the TV as they trust doctors to save them
>from themselves. My mom's endless medical merry-go-round will soon
>end with an early death caused by one of three illnesses directly or
>indirectly caused by medical interventions.
>Of course I'm taking a chance, wending my uninsured way to age 65 (10
>more years to Medicare). But if we make it we'll have ourselves to
>thank, not the medical field.
>And no, we can't fall back on any government program. We have a nest
>egg we live on, that we'd have to spend first.
>Wish us luck!

If my parents had taken that risk, I was dead for +/- 30 years by now.

R

Ratatosk,Jola
--

If you need to e-mail me, replace "don'tbother" with "zedicus"

sage hen <desertnymph@cwo.com> wrote:

> On Mar 4, 10:18 pm, "JustGB" <gettingb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The hubby & I have lived our entire adult lives without health
> insurance. Neither of us ever had a job that offered it, so we just
> got used to it. It hasn't been all bad. We've left no stone unturned
> in our quest to eat and live healthy, and so far it's paying off. I
> look around and see my insured friends with their atrocious diets,
> wasting away in front of the TV as they trust doctors to save them
> from themselves. My mom's endless medical merry-go-round will soon
> end with an early death caused by one of three illnesses directly or
> indirectly caused by medical interventions.
> Of course I'm taking a chance, wending my uninsured way to age 65 (10
> more years to Medicare). But if we make it we'll have ourselves to
> thank, not the medical field.
> And no, we can't fall back on any government program. We have a nest
> egg we live on, that we'd have to spend first.
> Wish us luck!
> Les

Sometimes, avoiding the doc altogether is the healthier choice. You and
your husband are an ideal: People who are familiar with the risks and
take appropriate precautions. True preventive medicine. No need for
luck. :-)

--
Keera in Norway * Think big. Shrink to fit.
http://home.online.no/~kafox/

Keera Ann Fox wrote:
> sage hen <desertnymph@cwo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mar 4, 10:18 pm, "JustGB" <gettingb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The hubby & I have lived our entire adult lives without health
>> insurance. Neither of us ever had a job that offered it, so we just
>> got used to it. It hasn't been all bad. We've left no stone unturned
>> in our quest to eat and live healthy, and so far it's paying off. I
>> look around and see my insured friends with their atrocious diets,
>> wasting away in front of the TV as they trust doctors to save them
>> from themselves. My mom's endless medical merry-go-round will soon
>> end with an early death caused by one of three illnesses directly or
>> indirectly caused by medical interventions.
>> Of course I'm taking a chance, wending my uninsured way to age 65 (10
>> more years to Medicare). But if we make it we'll have ourselves to
>> thank, not the medical field.
>> And no, we can't fall back on any government program. We have a nest
>> egg we live on, that we'd have to spend first.
>> Wish us luck!
>> Les
>
> Sometimes, avoiding the doc altogether is the healthier choice. You and
> your husband are an ideal: People who are familiar with the risks and
> take appropriate precautions. True preventive medicine. No need for
> luck. :-)

I think there's a tad of luck involved - even doing the right
things, you can inherit the wrong genes, encounter the wrong
virus or slip on the wrong patch of ice, and end up with whopping
medical expenses as a result.

I do think that many Americans who have insurance (leaving out
the 46 million + who don't) tend to rely on the latest pill and
miracle cure to handle what could largely have been prevented by
exercise, good nutrition and avoiding obvious risks. And that
we'd all be better off with a broader insurance base that is
designed more to provide preventative and catastrophic care, with
less support for the "I've got a cold, gotta run to the doctor"
type of illnesses. And no support for those whose greed allows
them to make exorbitant profits off the illness of others.

FurPaw
--
My family values don't involve depleted uranium.

To reply, unleash the dog.

On Mar 9, 4:06 pm, "sage hen" <desertny...@cwo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 4, 10:18 pm, "JustGB" <gettingb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The hubby & I have lived our entire adult lives without health
> insurance. Neither of us ever had a job that offered it, so we just
> got used to it. It hasn't been all bad. We've left no stone unturned
> in our quest to eat and live healthy, and so far it's paying off. I
> look around and see my insured friends with their atrocious diets,
> wasting away in front of the TV as they trust doctors to save them
> from themselves. My mom's endless medical merry-go-round will soon
> end with an early death caused by one of three illnesses directly or
> indirectly caused by medical interventions.
> Of course I'm taking a chance, wending my uninsured way to age 65 (10
> more years to Medicare). But if we make it we'll have ourselves to
> thank, not the medical field.
> And no, we can't fall back on any government program. We have a nest
> egg we live on, that we'd have to spend first.
> Wish us luck!
> Les

Good luck. Healthy living can help, obviously, but then there's also
luck - or non-luck, along with genes.

Ex: I was in the hospital for 2 weeks w/two kinds of pneumonia
(simultaneously)when I was 30, & thank goodness my health insurance
covered it (all but ~$30, & that was because I was in a private room
due to the contagious aspect). I was making little money then, &
would've had to take out a good-sized loan in order to pay my bill if
I hadn't had health insurance (via school). I have no clue whatsoever
where/how I picked up the pneumonia - just bad luck being near someone
else with those particular germs?? I hadn't even had a cold prior to
coming down w/it.

Cathy

"Keera Ann Fox" <thinkbig.shrinktofit@online.no> wrote in message
news:1huqlmk.hnfurv12619jjN%thinkbig.shrinktofit@o nline.no...
> sage hen <desertnymph@cwo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 4, 10:18 pm, "JustGB" <gettingb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The hubby & I have lived our entire adult lives without health
> > insurance. Neither of us ever had a job that offered it, so we just
> > got used to it. It hasn't been all bad. We've left no stone unturned
> > in our quest to eat and live healthy, and so far it's paying off. I
> > look around and see my insured friends with their atrocious diets,
> > wasting away in front of the TV as they trust doctors to save them
> > from themselves. My mom's endless medical merry-go-round will soon
> > end with an early death caused by one of three illnesses directly or
> > indirectly caused by medical interventions.
> > Of course I'm taking a chance, wending my uninsured way to age 65 (10
> > more years to Medicare). But if we make it we'll have ourselves to
> > thank, not the medical field.
> > And no, we can't fall back on any government program. We have a nest
> > egg we live on, that we'd have to spend first.
> > Wish us luck!
> > Les
>
> Sometimes, avoiding the doc altogether is the healthier choice. You and
> your husband are an ideal: People who are familiar with the risks and
> take appropriate precautions. True preventive medicine. No need for
> luck. :-)
----------------
YES, need for luck. Sometimes you do all the right things and you get, oh,
I don't know....breast cancer anyhow.

Eva

On Mar 9, 6:32 pm, c...@adelphia.net wrote:
> On Mar 9, 4:06 pm, "sage hen" <desertny...@cwo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 4, 10:18 pm, "JustGB" <gettingb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The hubby & I have lived our entire adult lives without health
> > insurance. Neither of us ever had a job that offered it, so we just
> > got used to it. It hasn't been all bad. We've left no stone unturned
> > in our quest to eat and live healthy, and so far it's paying off. I
> > look around and see my insured friends with their atrocious diets,
> > wasting away in front of the TV as they trust doctors to save them
> > from themselves. My mom's endless medical merry-go-round will soon
> > end with an early death caused by one of three illnesses directly or
> > indirectly caused by medical interventions.
> > Of course I'm taking a chance, wending my uninsured way to age 65 (10
> > more years to Medicare). But if we make it we'll have ourselves to
> > thank, not the medical field.
> > And no, we can't fall back on any government program. We have a nest
> > egg we live on, that we'd have to spend first.
> > Wish us luck!
> > Les
>
> Good luck. Healthy living can help, obviously, but then there's also
> luck - or non-luck, along with genes.
>
I agree that we've been lucky not to have faced financial ruin due to
living without health insurance all this time. Obviously, being
childless made it easier. My sister raised her son for 18 years with
no insurance--more luck! All I know is, it can be done, though it
does get more scary the older we get.
When I worked for the Census Bureau, we did a survey once a year
asking if people had health insurance. At least a third of the
families in my rural Utah county had none. There are a lot of us
uninsured out there!
Les




> Ex: I was in the hospital for 2 weeks w/two kinds of pneumonia
> (simultaneously)when I was 30, & thank goodness my health insurance
> covered it (all but ~$30, & that was because I was in a private room
> due to the contagious aspect). I was making little money then, &
> would've had to take out a good-sized loan in order to pay my bill if
> I hadn't had health insurance (via school). I have no clue whatsoever
> where/how I picked up the pneumonia - just bad luck being near someone
> else with those particular germs?? I hadn't even had a cold prior to
> coming down w/it.
>
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> - Show quoted text -

On 9 Mar 2007 13:06:27 -0800, "sage hen" <desertnymph@cwo.com> wrote:

>Of course I'm taking a chance, wending my uninsured way to age 65 (10
>more years to Medicare). But if we make it we'll have ourselves to
>thank, not the medical field.

We never had insurance either, until John Ritter died. DH is 53, I'm
50.

End of December, he accidently fell off of step, face forward. He
split the bone and chipped it. He had to have surgery, $15,000. We
had major/medical - probably will still cost $4500.

He has paid $141 a month for 2 years, so I think we are coming out
ahead.

We also have AFLAC, which has sent up $1500, for accidents. We pay
$23 a month for him.

I never believed in insurance either, until now


Amy mailto:williamson@shaklee.net
Take charge of your health.
www.shaklee.net/williamson

On Mar 14, 3:11 pm, AWilliamson <see_address_in_re...@invalid.com>
wrote:
> On 9 Mar 2007 13:06:27 -0800, "sage hen" <desertny...@cwo.com> wrote:
>
> >Of course I'm taking a chance, wending my uninsured way to age 65 (10
> >more years to Medicare). But if we make it we'll have ourselves to
> >thank, not the medical field.
>
> We never had insurance either, until John Ritter died. DH is 53, I'm
> 50.
>
> End of December, he accidently fell off of step, face forward. He

I'd be interested in buying health insurance if it only cost $141 a
month. Is that for one person? I've looked into catastrophic
coverage with a $5,000 deductible, but the cheapest is almost $300 a
month. We're both almost 55, and premiums take a big jump at that
age. It's true we live in California, which costs more than most
states.
It's not that I don't believe in insurance; we have every other form
of it. Our car insurance has $100 grand medical coverage at a very
reasonable cost. For a couple who lives on $1,000 a month, health
insurance seems out of reach. We'll just keep our fingers crossed
that being super-careful and conscientious pays off, and our luck
holds out!
Les




> split the bone and chipped it. He had to have surgery, $15,000. We
> had major/medical - probably will still cost $4500.
>
> He has paid $141 a month for 2 years, so I think we are coming out
> ahead.
>
> We also have AFLAC, which has sent up $1500, for accidents. We pay
> $23 a month for him.
>
> I never believed in insurance either, until now
>
> Amy mailto:william...@shaklee.net
> Take charge of your health.www.shaklee.net/williamson

On Mar 5, 4:17 am, FurPaw <furrealpaw...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I would be ROFLing if I weren't crying... it's so true! And that
> is for people who can afford ANY insurance - more than 46 million
> of us can't.

According to the US's own statistics, the US ranks 42nd in Infant
Mortality
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications.../2091rank.html
and 46th in Life Expectancy
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications.../2102rank.html

Not a single country with socialized medicine ranks below the US. Why
is it so hard for the pols to make the connection, huh? Health care
and long life...gee...what an idea!

JustGB