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Old 01-14-2007, 01:38 AM
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I´m drinking 1 to 5 beers an evening. Today i´m drinking a bottle of white
wine.
What do you think?


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Old 01-14-2007, 01:38 AM
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No, you're not an alcoholic. If you are, I am definitely one. I drink
about 14 beers every 2 days...I drink one night, sleep a day, then 48
hours later I drink again....and it's beer that is 5.9% alcohol....

I have to admit...I take Zyprexa and it adds to the interesting outlook
on life when I drink....gotta love life through chemistry...

So here it is...."One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer" for my friend
rainbowguardian!

Keep the peace,
Kane

PS - That was a George Thoroughgood song....



rainbowguardian wrote:
> I´m drinking 1 to 5 beers an evening. Today i´m drinking a bottle of white
> wine.
> What do you think?


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Old 01-14-2007, 01:38 AM
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There are some tests you can do to see so.
Try and not drink for a month and if you really crave one - you're
hooked.
Or if you can't keep from having a drink when your friends drink -
you're hooked socially.
I'm not a big one for the drink, but if I had my say so I'd smoke pot
everyday. I might get back on it when they find a cure for paranoia.
Oh yeah, and if I can buy joints by the pack.

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Old 01-14-2007, 01:38 AM
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"Kane" <cain_roenor@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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No, you're not an alcoholic. If you are, I am definitely one. I drink
about 14 beers every 2 days...I drink one night, sleep a day, then 48
hours later I drink again....and it's beer that is 5.9% alcohol....

I have to admit...I take Zyprexa and it adds to the interesting outlook
on life when I drink....gotta love life through chemistry...

Can you fuck on the level now? At this time the power corruption
and lies as a societal force in my life are stronger than the intoxins I'm
having to use and seem to ruthlessly counteract them with pain-pleasure
these days less than zero-sum that what would otherwise be a reliable
indicator that humanity has validity of reason to transact the truths
it used to be the physical manifestation of. Are your feelings of
"love" truely relative enough to the fucking stupidity of bringing
children into this world?

The brandy helps, the (unusual I know ;-) 5mg three times a day of
benzhexol is very powerfull, as anyone who has tried it will testify.
Mustn't grumble :-)

So here it is...."One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer" for my friend
rainbowguardian!

Keep the peace,
Kane

PS - That was a George Thoroughgood song....



rainbowguardian wrote:
> I´m drinking 1 to 5 beers an evening. Today i´m drinking a bottle of white
> wine.
> What do you think?



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Old 01-14-2007, 01:38 AM
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Anyway don't you lot fucking start. I suppose your going to all become
fucking awkward bastards next.

"rainbowguardian" <robert_smrdelj@gmx.de> wrote in message
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| I´m drinking 1 to 5 beers an evening. Today i´m drinking a bottle of white
| wine.
| What do you think?
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Old 01-14-2007, 01:38 AM
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Litmus wrote:
> Anyway don't you lot fucking start. I suppose your going to all become
> fucking awkward bastards next.
>
> "rainbowguardian" <robert_smrdelj@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:4smpbaF10kor4U1@mid.individual.net...
> | I´m drinking 1 to 5 beers an evening. Today i´m drinking a bottle of white
> | wine.
> | What do you think?
> |
> |


I enjoy a bottle of wine almost every day-except Mondays-cos Mondays
are the livers day for rejuvenation-the thing 2 remember health wise is
the liver is like Steve Austin-we can rebuild him,your kidneys are
another matter.
If it was good enough for Horace ,Socrates and Ulyesses(sic) then whom
Is eye 2 ar q ?

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Old 01-14-2007, 01:38 AM
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"Luke Flyswatter" <chewie_roar@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> There are some tests you can do to see so.
> Try and not drink for a month and if you really crave one - you're
> hooked.


This would make me an alcoholic, but i know persons who would crave one too
and i wouldn´t consider them alcoholics.

> Or if you can't keep from having a drink when your friends drink -
> you're hooked socially.


This test i would pass.

> I'm not a big one for the drink, but if I had my say so I'd smoke pot
> everyday. I might get back on it when they find a cure for paranoia.
> Oh yeah, and if I can buy joints by the pack.
>


I also rather like to smoke a spliff.


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Old 01-14-2007, 01:38 AM
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Thanks all for the answers!


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Old 01-14-2007, 01:38 AM
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On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 00:31:50 +0100, "rainbowguardian"
<robert_smrdelj@gmx.de> wrote:

>I´m drinking 1 to 5 beers an evening. Today i´m drinking a bottle of white
>wine.
>What do you think?
>



NO ONE can you that you are or are not!! YOU have to admit to
yourself that you are powerless over alcoholic before labeling
yourself one or getting others to verify it. Being an alcoholic is
your own state of mind, not some sort of test or what others say. Try
hitting a mess of AA meetings and buying a Big Book and determine for
your self.. Go to an AA meeting and I am sure that many people will
tell you what I am saying. Try looking up 'the twelve steps of AA'
also. I am a (proud) member of AA, NA and CA.
Good luck!
Chris
--Chris

Neat stuff for sale - art nouveau to bayonets:
http://www.ckdeco.com
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Old 01-14-2007, 01:38 AM
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On 23 Nov 2006 19:34:26 -0800, "Luke Flyswatter"
<chewie_roar@hotmail.com> wrote:

>There are some tests you can do to see so.
>Try and not drink for a month and if you really crave one - you're
>hooked.
>Or if you can't keep from having a drink when your friends drink -
>you're hooked socially.
>I'm not a big one for the drink, but if I had my say so I'd smoke pot
>everyday. I might get back on it when they find a cure for paranoia.
>Oh yeah, and if I can buy joints by the pack.



I wonder what a pack of joints would cost? You could gets Joint Kings
(Joinstons or Winjoints), longs and 120's for the ladies called Misty
J's... And filterless joints (Jointboro's) for those rugged guys
riding horseback.. Whats the going rate nowadays anyway?
Chris
--Chris

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http://www.ckdeco.com
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Old 01-14-2007, 01:39 AM
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All depends on what you want. Quality that is. I have some family
that still smoke. Out here in the midwest - 3 + 1/2 grams is $25 for
lowgrade (get you by weed).

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Old 01-14-2007, 01:39 AM
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You're not an alcoholic until you have to drink after you get up
in the morning. Are you on dopamine blockers (thorazine, zyprexa,
abilify, etc.)? By blocking the neurotransmitter of the reward system of
the brain, dopamine, these falsely called "antipsychotic" drugs make
people feel miserable, and most people will do anything to feel better.
If you need to chase down six vodka tonics with six beers at night, if
you're on dopamine blockers, you're still not an alcoholic, you're a
natural human being.

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Old 01-14-2007, 01:39 AM
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"Miguel Lahunkun" <gellie718@webtv.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> You're not an alcoholic until you have to drink after you get up
> in the morning. Are you on dopamine blockers (thorazine, zyprexa,
> abilify, etc.)? By blocking the neurotransmitter of the reward system of
> the brain, dopamine, these falsely called "antipsychotic" drugs make
> people feel miserable, and most people will do anything to feel better.
> If you need to chase down six vodka tonics with six beers at night, if
> you're on dopamine blockers, you're still not an alcoholic, you're a
> natural human being.
>


I am on dopamine blockers but i also am sometimes very happy and don´t feel
miserable.
I think the dopamine doesn´t get blocked out totally otherwise we couldn´t
function to well, it´s just getting regulated. And besides that, there are
other neurotransmitters and hormons and what else that can you make feel
happy. And besides that there is something like soul or spirit or whatever
that can you make feel happy.
Anyways thank you.


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Old 01-14-2007, 01:39 AM
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"Coconut" <pegboy_30@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 00:31:50 +0100, "rainbowguardian"
> <robert_smrdelj@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>>I´m drinking 1 to 5 beers an evening. Today i´m drinking a bottle of white
>>wine.
>>What do you think?
>>

>
>
> NO ONE can you that you are or are not!! YOU have to admit to
> yourself that you are powerless over alcoholic before labeling
> yourself one or getting others to verify it. Being an alcoholic is
> your own state of mind, not some sort of test or what others say. Try
> hitting a mess of AA meetings and buying a Big Book and determine for
> your self.. Go to an AA meeting and I am sure that many people will
> tell you what I am saying. Try looking up 'the twelve steps of AA'
> also. I am a (proud) member of AA, NA and CA.
> Good luck!
> Chris
> --Chris
>


Sometimes i think i´m one sometimes i don´t think so.
btw: are you the devil?


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Old 01-14-2007, 01:39 AM
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Dopamine blockers make me feel absolutely miserable! I'd prefer
euthanasia to dopamine blockers! Dopamine blockers don't stop
hallucinations, they just make them all bad. Glutamate blockers, like
acamprosate (Campral), stop hallucinations and voices, and these drugs
are pleasant. Also, drugs which aid the brain's natural glutamate
blocking system, like gabapentin (Neurontin), help and are pleasant. I'm
probably not actually "schizophrenic". I was diagnosed as having
shamans' disease behind the old Iron Curtain, while I hid out there to
escape Western psychiatry. I ran around the world several times being
chased by Western psychiatry. But it is American citizens who are behind
a curtain we call the Plastic Curtain. Shamans' disease is caused by
scar tissue in the parasympathetic nervous system which irritates and
stimulates these muscarinic nerves to awaken related muscarinic nerves
in the brain causing awareness of the Underworld. This physiology is
suppressed in the superstitious West by selfish superstitious secret
societies. The Western countries don't actually have democracies, they
have "cryptocracies", clandestine rulership by the privileged secret few
who violate human rights in the face of guaranteed rights. We need a
revolution to expose these maggots. The simple public knowledge of their
secrets will be victory.

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Old 01-14-2007, 01:39 AM
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On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 12:30:56 +0100, "rainbowguardian"
<robert_smrdelj@gmx.de> wrote:

>
>"Coconut" <pegboy_30@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>news:i96fm2500fuderqrkkcqiqo0sednvooob4@4ax.com.. .
>> On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 00:31:50 +0100, "rainbowguardian"
>> <robert_smrdelj@gmx.de> wrote:
>>
>>>I´m drinking 1 to 5 beers an evening. Today i´m drinking a bottle of white
>>>wine.
>>>What do you think?
>>>

>>
>>
>> NO ONE can you that you are or are not!! YOU have to admit to
>> yourself that you are powerless over alcoholic before labeling
>> yourself one or getting others to verify it. Being an alcoholic is
>> your own state of mind, not some sort of test or what others say. Try
>> hitting a mess of AA meetings and buying a Big Book and determine for
>> your self.. Go to an AA meeting and I am sure that many people will
>> tell you what I am saying. Try looking up 'the twelve steps of AA'
>> also. I am a (proud) member of AA, NA and CA.
>> Good luck!
>> Chris
>> --Chris
>>

>
>Sometimes i think i´m one sometimes i don´t think so.
>btw: are you the devil?
>


Are you?
--Chris

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Old 01-14-2007, 01:39 AM
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rainbowguardian schreef:

> I´m drinking 1 to 5 beers an evening. Today i´m drinking a bottle of white
> wine.
> What do you think?


There was a period I drank 3 half liters a day, that ammounts to 5
beers
every evening, but I stopped without withdrawel effects from one day to
the other. Nowadays I haven't drank a beer for months now and I don't
miss it. My girlfriend often feels depressed and she needs a drink then
and I mostly join her. But she has been hospitalized for two months
and is now home again. So far she doesn't need a drink, but lets see
how it goes. Whether you are an alcoholic, I think you are a slight
alcoholic with dicipline.

Berty

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Old 01-14-2007, 01:39 AM
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"Coconut" <pegboy_30@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 12:30:56 +0100, "rainbowguardian"
> <robert_smrdelj@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Coconut" <pegboy_30@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>>news:i96fm2500fuderqrkkcqiqo0sednvooob4@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 00:31:50 +0100, "rainbowguardian"
>>> <robert_smrdelj@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I´m drinking 1 to 5 beers an evening. Today i´m drinking a bottle of
>>>>white
>>>>wine.
>>>>What do you think?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> NO ONE can you that you are or are not!! YOU have to admit to
>>> yourself that you are powerless over alcoholic before labeling
>>> yourself one or getting others to verify it. Being an alcoholic is
>>> your own state of mind, not some sort of test or what others say. Try
>>> hitting a mess of AA meetings and buying a Big Book and determine for
>>> your self.. Go to an AA meeting and I am sure that many people will
>>> tell you what I am saying. Try looking up 'the twelve steps of AA'
>>> also. I am a (proud) member of AA, NA and CA.
>>> Good luck!
>>> Chris
>>> --Chris
>>>

>>
>>Sometimes i think i´m one sometimes i don´t think so.
>>btw: are you the devil?
>>

>
> Are you?
> --Chris


Once in a deam somebody called me satan son of Joseph of arimathea.


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Old 01-14-2007, 01:39 AM
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rainbowguardian wrote:
> "Coconut" <pegboy_30@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:ringm25u6u9l1dblldf1kkljrkt6ngqp6k@4ax.com...
> > On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 12:30:56 +0100, "rainbowguardian"
> > <robert_smrdelj@gmx.de> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Coconut" <pegboy_30@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> >>news:i96fm2500fuderqrkkcqiqo0sednvooob4@4ax.com. ..
> >>> On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 00:31:50 +0100, "rainbowguardian"
> >>> <robert_smrdelj@gmx.de> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>I´m drinking 1 to 5 beers an evening. Today i´m drinking a bottleof
> >>>>white
> >>>>wine.
> >>>>What do you think?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> NO ONE can you that you are or are not!! YOU have to admit to
> >>> yourself that you are powerless over alcoholic before labeling
> >>> yourself one or getting others to verify it. Being an alcoholic is
> >>> your own state of mind, not some sort of test or what others say. Try
> >>> hitting a mess of AA meetings and buying a Big Book and determine for
> >>> your self.. Go to an AA meeting and I am sure that many people will
> >>> tell you what I am saying. Try looking up 'the twelve steps of AA'
> >>> also. I am a (proud) member of AA, NA and CA.
> >>> Good luck!
> >>> Chris
> >>> --Chris
> >>>
> >>
> >>Sometimes i think i´m one sometimes i don´t think so.
> >>btw: are you the devil?
> >>

> >
> > Are you?
> > --Chris

>
> Once in a deam somebody called me satan son of Joseph of arimathea.


Just wikid arimathea, that guy has a cool hat

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Old 01-14-2007, 01:39 AM
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"Miguel Lahunkun" <gellie718@webtv.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Dopamine blockers make me feel absolutely miserable! I'd prefer
> euthanasia to dopamine blockers! Dopamine blockers don't stop
> hallucinations, they just make them all bad. Glutamate blockers, like
> acamprosate (Campral), stop hallucinations and voices, and these drugs
> are pleasant. Also, drugs which aid the brain's natural glutamate
> blocking system, like gabapentin (Neurontin), help and are pleasant. I'm


I once asked my pdoc for these glutamate blockers but she refused it.

> probably not actually "schizophrenic". I was diagnosed as having
> shamans' disease behind the old Iron Curtain, while I hid out there to


So you think szers are shamans in which the perception got too bad?

> escape Western psychiatry. I ran around the world several times being
> chased by Western psychiatry. But it is American citizens who are behind
> a curtain we call the Plastic Curtain. Shamans' disease is caused by
> scar tissue in the parasympathetic nervous system which irritates and
> stimulates these muscarinic nerves to awaken related muscarinic nerves
> in the brain causing awareness of the Underworld. This physiology is


Muscimol or muscarine (i don´t remember) is the active substance in fly
agaric, is it related to that?


> suppressed in the superstitious West by selfish superstitious secret
> societies. The Western countries don't actually have democracies, they
> have "cryptocracies", clandestine rulership by the privileged secret few
> who violate human rights in the face of guaranteed rights. We need a
> revolution to expose these maggots. The simple public knowledge of their
> secrets will be victory.
>



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"Adamski_Rasputin" <adamskirasputin@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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rainbowguardian schreef:

> I´m drinking 1 to 5 beers an evening. Today i´m drinking a bottle of white
> wine.
> What do you think?


There was a period I drank 3 half liters a day, that ammounts to 5
beers
every evening, but I stopped without withdrawel effects from one day to
the other. Nowadays I haven't drank a beer for months now and I don't
miss it. My girlfriend often feels depressed and she needs a drink then
and I mostly join her. But she has been hospitalized for two months
and is now home again. So far she doesn't need a drink, but lets see
how it goes. Whether you are an alcoholic, I think you are a slight
alcoholic with dicipline.

Berty

I think so too.


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Old 01-14-2007, 01:39 AM
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Schizophrenics are shamans without a map. A few classes in
hyperdimensional geography and a schizophrenic is a master shaman. But,
the white right hand path establishment that rules the one world order
considers us unauthorized, and THEY wont accept us. Soviet
anthropologists defined witchcraft to be "the unauthorized possession of
the knowledge and/or use of the secrets of the priestcraft". Modern
psychiatry is just the modern extension of the old "holy inquisition".

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Old 01-14-2007, 01:39 AM
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"Miguel Lahunkun" <gellie718@webtv.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Schizophrenics are shamans without a map. A few classes in
> hyperdimensional geography and a schizophrenic is a master shaman. But,
> the white right hand path establishment that rules the one world order
> considers us unauthorized, and THEY wont accept us. Soviet
> anthropologists defined witchcraft to be "the unauthorized possession of
> the knowledge and/or use of the secrets of the priestcraft". Modern
> psychiatry is just the modern extension of the old "holy inquisition".
>


But what about delusions?


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Old 01-14-2007, 01:39 AM
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Scientific American's May 2003 article "The Multiverse" proved
that all probablities are manifested in their own timespaces and
probability timelines. King Solomon represented this by a system that
finally became the modern deck of playing cards in which the Ten of
Diamonds, Malcuth Ha Asiah, is the only legal reality permitted by
psychiatry and all else is labled "psychotic delusion".

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