Amisulpride (Solian) update

I've been taking 50mg of amisulpride once or twice daily for the last
few days. It does make me feel a little weird at times. Sometimes I
feel kind of zoned out and zombie like. Sometimes my emotions feel
more clear and coherent. I can tell that it's actively restructuring
my brain, which may be good or bad.

I still haven't gotten my tianeptine yet. I should have it this week
sometime. I stopped taking my GABA supplements to see how the
amisulpride felt, but sometimes my head still feels overstimulated, so
I may start taking those at night again before I fall asleep.

It's been really hard for me to concentrate and remember stuff,
especially with school and working. Sometimes the stress and the
slight stimulation from the amisulpride is too much and I take my
frustration out on others around me, which is never good.

Overall, I fear my disease has gotten much worse in the last few weeks
and I'm afraid my brain might never recover from this. Amisulpride
definitely helps, but I wish I had something that helped more. If
things don't get better in the next few months, I think I might lose
control and do some very permanent and damaging things to myself...
I'm covered under insurance now and can go see a psychiatrist, but I
doubt they can help me anymore than I've been able to help myself. I
just have a few more things I have to do before I disappear.

~Cory

We are just junkies. I feel sad about that.

Greets, Branimir.

On Sep 10, 6:11 am, "corysch...@gmail.com" <corysch...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I've been taking 50mg of amisulpride once or twice daily for the last
> few days. It does make me feel a little weird at times. Sometimes I
> feel kind of zoned out and zombie like. Sometimes my emotions feel
> more clear and coherent. I can tell that it's actively restructuring
> my brain, which may be good or bad.
>
> I still haven't gotten my tianeptine yet. I should have it this week
> sometime. I stopped taking my GABA supplements to see how the
> amisulpride felt, but sometimes my head still feels overstimulated, so
> I may start taking those at night again before I fall asleep.
>
> It's been really hard for me to concentrate and remember stuff,
> especially with school and working. Sometimes the stress and the
> slight stimulation from the amisulpride is too much and I take my
> frustration out on others around me, which is never good.
>
> Overall, I fear my disease has gotten much worse in the last few weeks
> and I'm afraid my brain might never recover from this. Amisulpride
> definitely helps, but I wish I had something that helped more. If
> things don't get better in the next few months, I think I might lose
> control and do some very permanent and damaging things to myself...
> I'm covered under insurance now and can go see a psychiatrist, but I
> doubt they can help me anymore than I've been able to help myself. I
> just have a few more things I have to do before I disappear.
>
> ~Cory

Withdrawal from old meds like GABA is probably complicating things.

I would be interested to see how you feel about amisulpride after 6 weeks.
Even at 6 weeks, you would probably be figuring out how high a dosage is
best, at least that seems to be how most meds go.

Good luck.

QN


<coryschulz@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I've been taking 50mg of amisulpride once or twice daily for the last
> few days. It does make me feel a little weird at times. Sometimes I
> feel kind of zoned out and zombie like. Sometimes my emotions feel
> more clear and coherent. I can tell that it's actively restructuring
> my brain, which may be good or bad.
>
> I still haven't gotten my tianeptine yet. I should have it this week
> sometime. I stopped taking my GABA supplements to see how the
> amisulpride felt, but sometimes my head still feels overstimulated, so
> I may start taking those at night again before I fall asleep.
>
> It's been really hard for me to concentrate and remember stuff,
> especially with school and working. Sometimes the stress and the
> slight stimulation from the amisulpride is too much and I take my
> frustration out on others around me, which is never good.
>
> Overall, I fear my disease has gotten much worse in the last few weeks
> and I'm afraid my brain might never recover from this. Amisulpride
> definitely helps, but I wish I had something that helped more. If
> things don't get better in the next few months, I think I might lose
> control and do some very permanent and damaging things to myself...
> I'm covered under insurance now and can go see a psychiatrist, but I
> doubt they can help me anymore than I've been able to help myself. I
> just have a few more things I have to do before I disappear.
>
> ~Cory
>

<coryschulz@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I've been taking 50mg of amisulpride once or twice daily for the last
> few days. It does make me feel a little weird at times. Sometimes I
> feel kind of zoned out and zombie like. Sometimes my emotions feel
> more clear and coherent. I can tell that it's actively restructuring
> my brain, which may be good or bad.
>
> I still haven't gotten my tianeptine yet. I should have it this week
> sometime. I stopped taking my GABA supplements to see how the
> amisulpride felt, but sometimes my head still feels overstimulated, so
> I may start taking those at night again before I fall asleep.
>
> It's been really hard for me to concentrate and remember stuff,
> especially with school and working. Sometimes the stress and the
> slight stimulation from the amisulpride is too much and I take my
> frustration out on others around me, which is never good.
>
> Overall, I fear my disease has gotten much worse in the last few weeks
> and I'm afraid my brain might never recover from this. Amisulpride
> definitely helps, but I wish I had something that helped more. If
> things don't get better in the next few months, I think I might lose
> control and do some very permanent and damaging things to myself...
> I'm covered under insurance now and can go see a psychiatrist, but I
> doubt they can help me anymore than I've been able to help myself. I
> just have a few more things I have to do before I disappear.
>
> ~Cory

Cory, you haven't struck me as the kind of guy who wanders around saying he
has a few more things to do before he disappears. It sounds like the med
change is affecting your thinking in ways you might not notice. If you trust
your pdoc not to get stupid, you might want to discuss this affect change
with him fairly soon.

Mike

Take advantage of the insurance and see a psychiatrist.

You sound really depressed. Maybe you're schizoaffective or the
medicine is making you depressed.

See a doctor. Maybe he'll have an idea you haven't thought of.


penguin

The problem, is that when medication does start working, I'm able to
accurately reflect on my life and all of the things I've missed out
on, and I get really depressed. The other thing is that my head has
been getting worse over the last month or so, and it's getting really
scary. I got this amisulpride just in time to stop me from reaching a
mental breaking point. Sometimes I go through phases where I'll be
fine for a month or two, and then in 1 weeks time my head will become
exponentially worse, and it's really scary, and I just went through
one of those periods like a week or two ago.

So now I'm just not sure if this is really something I can control
with meds, or something I'm just prolonging. But either way, it feels
like ever since I got my disease I'm slowly disappearing and becoming
someone I'm not. It's really sad... I just know now there's nothing I
can do, and I don't know if there's much left to lose.

I'm going to keep taking it even though it makes me feel really zoned
out sometimes. We'll see how things are at 4 and 6 weeks and I'll
decide then.

~Cory

On Sep 11, 12:42 am, "corysch...@gmail.com" <corysch...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> The problem, is that when medication does start working, I'm able to
> accurately reflect on my life and all of the things I've missed out
> on, and I get really depressed. The other thing is that my head has
> been getting worse over the last month or so, and it's getting really
> scary. I got this amisulpride just in time to stop me from reaching a
> mental breaking point. Sometimes I go through phases where I'll be
> fine for a month or two, and then in 1 weeks time my head will become
> exponentially worse, and it's really scary, and I just went through
> one of those periods like a week or two ago.
>
> So now I'm just not sure if this is really something I can control
> with meds, or something I'm just prolonging. But either way, it feels
> like ever since I got my disease I'm slowly disappearing and becoming
> someone I'm not. It's really sad... I just know now there's nothing I
> can do, and I don't know if there's much left to lose.
>
> I'm going to keep taking it even though it makes me feel really zoned
> out sometimes. We'll see how things are at 4 and 6 weeks and I'll
> decide then.
>
> ~Cory

I go through periods when I get some interference, voices, and then
they go away again for a while. Its normally someone calling out my
name in a busy street. The Zyprexa seems to keep them from being too
bad and I know to ignore them most of the time anyway.

I'm beginning to understand what you meant by disappearing. Meds can create
a new personality. I have had three, in a way. There was my stressed but
sane youth, there was my hyper-stressed unmedicated delusional phase, and
now I'm much more relaxed and my personality has evolved into something I
like better. My parents saw the recent good change, but my friends have not
said a word about it.

Interesting that the meds are letting you see the train wreck this problem
makes of your life (and mine). Like any disaster, the shock should fade
with time.



<coryschulz@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> The problem, is that when medication does start working, I'm able to
> accurately reflect on my life and all of the things I've missed out
> on, and I get really depressed. The other thing is that my head has
> been getting worse over the last month or so, and it's getting really
> scary. I got this amisulpride just in time to stop me from reaching a
> mental breaking point. Sometimes I go through phases where I'll be
> fine for a month or two, and then in 1 weeks time my head will become
> exponentially worse, and it's really scary, and I just went through
> one of those periods like a week or two ago.
>
> So now I'm just not sure if this is really something I can control
> with meds, or something I'm just prolonging. But either way, it feels
> like ever since I got my disease I'm slowly disappearing and becoming
> someone I'm not. It's really sad... I just know now there's nothing I
> can do, and I don't know if there's much left to lose.
>
> I'm going to keep taking it even though it makes me feel really zoned
> out sometimes. We'll see how things are at 4 and 6 weeks and I'll
> decide then.
>
> ~Cory
>

Not just the meds creating a new personality, but my disease as well.
And then of course I'm still growing up and my world is always
changing, so that contributes as well. It's more like I'm being
erased. How do you fight that? You can't. How do you get it back? You
can't.

The first time I went to my old psychiatrist she asked me if I was
suicidal and I said, "If I want to die, all I have to do is sit here
and wait for my brain to rot away." She got really quiet and didn't
respond to that.

~Cory

<coryschulz@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Not just the meds creating a new personality, but my disease as well.
> And then of course I'm still growing up and my world is always
> changing, so that contributes as well. It's more like I'm being
> erased. How do you fight that? You can't. How do you get it back? You
> can't.
>
> The first time I went to my old psychiatrist she asked me if I was
> suicidal and I said, "If I want to die, all I have to do is sit here
> and wait for my brain to rot away." She got really quiet and didn't
> respond to that.
>
> ~Cory

Cory, how old are you? I didn't enter that kind of headspace until I was 42.
If you're under 30 there's still hope, because shit tends to happen over
time and a 30-year-old can look forward to *lots* of unexpected shit, some
of it beneficial. Even at 42 I'm fairly young and things aren't as over for
me as I often believe they are.

Mike

I'm only 22. I've had SZ for about 2 1/2 years. I'm still at a point
where my brain should be developing and building itself, but instead
it's doing the opposite. I do think a lot of things have been lost for
me. I never even got the chance to begin my life before i lost it. Oh
well... things happen...

~Cory

Hi Cory,
I bet most folks here take suppliments.
Find out what suppliments have a good name amongst the folks here
abouts.

If you are going to catch a fish you need to keep your line in the
water.

Also, usually after the usual early onset usually late twenties maybe,or
teen, its not as bad...usually.

I'm sixty y.o.

Growing up is optional, growing old is not optional.

My imaginary friend, (maybe he's just non-corporeal?) thinks I have
mental problems.

Sounds to me that some of your apprehensions might be best addressed
with an anti-anxiety pill....before you make mountains out of molehills.

Get some house plants.

Damo

Life is ever changing and people change with it.

They meet new people, get new idea's, drop old friends, make new
friends.

Also a person matures to amost the age of 40.

Berty

Well, a normal person does. It's more difficult when you don't have
any friends and can't remember anything and you feel like your brain
is melting and you're constantly stressed out and you can't feel
emotions. This isn't an ideal environment to be raised in.

Anyways, today I didn't feel as zoned out on amisulpride as I have the
last few days. I have to work a lot this weekend, so I'm hoping I'll
be mentally prepared for it. It's possible I've been gaining weight
from the meds. It's also possible that I've been eating a lot of ice
cream and candy and haven't been working out as much as I usually do.

~Cory

Go to a doctor, Corey. You need help.

penguin

I know I need help. I just wish there was someone out there with the
ability to help me.
I care about my life and my health more than any doctor, and the
resources I have are more and better than anything a doctor would use
on me.

I just wish there was an effective treatment or at least some
effective options. Unfortunately this is a disease that we know rather
little about. We take guesses on possible causes, possible
predispositions, and possible treatments, but so far there hasn't been
a miracle cure or sudden enlightenment about the disease. The closest
thing I can think of as an effective treatment would be amisulpride,
and I just got that less than a week ago and it cost me $200 and I had
to break the law to get it.

If they really wanted to help me, and really give me treatment, they
would do numerous PET and fMRI scans on my brain to test different
areas of activity and the levels of different neurotransmitters in
these areas. They would do blood work to analyze metabolites and
chemicals, which could give them a better idea of what's happening and
what's malfunctioning in my body. They would approve medications in
the US like amisulpride and tianeptine, and they would give me health
care and cover the cost of my meds. If they really wanted to help me
they'd give me a better environment to live in so that I'm not so
stressed out all the time and surrounded by my depressing parents.
They could pay for my college so that I don't have to go to school
full time and then work all weekend long and never get a day off and
constantly be stressed out, causing my symptoms to get worse, causing
everything to become more stressful, causing me to feel like I'm going
to have a mental meltdown every half hour because I can never get any
sleep and my body and mind feel soo tired and all I want to do is
sleep forever.

I know I need help. I just wish there was someone out there with the
ability to help me.


~Cory

A good doctor will do an MRI and blood tests before you are even
diagnosed.

penguin

Corey, keep trying till you find a good doctor that you have a raport
with.

Ask for an MRI. I had an MRI and an EEG when I was first hospitilized
for 2 months.

You don't know everything about sz. A good doctor might have some
helpful suggestion.

That stuff you're getting off the internet might not even be the real
thing.

You post here and complain but it is frustrating because you don't
listen to any solutions.

penguin

They did do an MRI, and they said it came back normal. If good doctors
do actual tests, then I haven't had good doctors. I had to beg for the
MRI. The doctor that let me get it said I was depressed and gave me
Lexapro, an SSRI. He was an idiot.

The meds I have are legit. They came in the original Solian box with
serial codes and expiration dates. The pills also say Solian on them.
And they seem to help my symptoms a lot. I'm pretty confident in
them.

I'm posting on here mainly to document my symptoms and experiences
with certain meds. Tianeptine, Amisulpride, Geodon, Abilify.

The thing I really complain about is that there isn't any cure for
this disease. That's what really bugs me. Is that we don't know
anything about it and we have no really effective ways to treat it.
And the fact that psychiatrists don't really seem to sympathize or
genuinely care if I get better or not. I come in, they ask me how I'm
doing, and give me meds. That's it. I need more than just meds. I need
a new living environment. I need less stress. I need to not have a
disease anymore. To go back to being normal. To be able to live a
life. And they can't do that. So what's the point of going to see a
doctor that doesn't really care about me and can't do anything to help
me or improve my situation? What will they give me? An antipsychotic?
An antidepressant? Sleeping pills? If I say the wrong thing will they
lock me up, and then release me 4 weeks later all doped up on Seroquel
with medical bills around 20 to $30,000 ? And then claim that they
have "successfully helped and stabilized me" ?

There aren't any solutions. They don't exist yet. Scientists are still
searching for them. If there were solutions, we'd all have them, and
we probably wouldn't be posting on here. We're chasing a mirage. An
imaginary vision you can see but never quite touch. We have all sorts
of ways of dealing with situations and covering up symptoms and making
things seem really nice, but I wouldn't call any of them solutions.
They're all just too incomplete. Sorry to sound so cynical. My level
of frustration with this disease is parallel to all of the happiness I
have lost, and I don't know how to deal with never getting any of it
back.

~Cory

You're showing evidence of bipolar.

Mike

<coryschulz@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> They did do an MRI, and they said it came back normal. If good doctors
> do actual tests, then I haven't had good doctors. I had to beg for the
> MRI. The doctor that let me get it said I was depressed and gave me
> Lexapro, an SSRI. He was an idiot.
>
> The meds I have are legit. They came in the original Solian box with
> serial codes and expiration dates. The pills also say Solian on them.
> And they seem to help my symptoms a lot. I'm pretty confident in
> them.
>
> I'm posting on here mainly to document my symptoms and experiences
> with certain meds. Tianeptine, Amisulpride, Geodon, Abilify.
>
> The thing I really complain about is that there isn't any cure for
> this disease. That's what really bugs me. Is that we don't know
> anything about it and we have no really effective ways to treat it.
> And the fact that psychiatrists don't really seem to sympathize or
> genuinely care if I get better or not. I come in, they ask me how I'm
> doing, and give me meds. That's it. I need more than just meds. I need
> a new living environment. I need less stress. I need to not have a
> disease anymore. To go back to being normal. To be able to live a
> life. And they can't do that. So what's the point of going to see a
> doctor that doesn't really care about me and can't do anything to help
> me or improve my situation? What will they give me? An antipsychotic?
> An antidepressant? Sleeping pills? If I say the wrong thing will they
> lock me up, and then release me 4 weeks later all doped up on Seroquel
> with medical bills around 20 to $30,000 ? And then claim that they
> have "successfully helped and stabilized me" ?
>
> There aren't any solutions. They don't exist yet. Scientists are still
> searching for them. If there were solutions, we'd all have them, and
> we probably wouldn't be posting on here. We're chasing a mirage. An
> imaginary vision you can see but never quite touch. We have all sorts
> of ways of dealing with situations and covering up symptoms and making
> things seem really nice, but I wouldn't call any of them solutions.
> They're all just too incomplete. Sorry to sound so cynical. My level
> of frustration with this disease is parallel to all of the happiness I
> have lost, and I don't know how to deal with never getting any of it
> back.
>
> ~Cory
>

On Sep 12, 3:00 am, "corysch...@gmail.com" <corysch...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I know I need help. I just wish there was someone out there with the
> ability to help me.
> I care about my life and my health more than any doctor, and the
> resources I have are more and better than anything a doctor would use
> on me.
>
> I just wish there was an effective treatment or at least some
> effective options. Unfortunately this is a disease that we know rather
> little about. We take guesses on possible causes, possible
> predispositions, and possible treatments, but so far there hasn't been
> a miracle cure or sudden enlightenment about the disease. The closest
> thing I can think of as an effective treatment would be amisulpride,
> and I just got that less than a week ago and it cost me $200 and I had
> to break the law to get it.
>
> If they really wanted to help me, and really give me treatment, they
> would do numerous PET and fMRI scans on my brain to test different
> areas of activity and the levels of different neurotransmitters in
> these areas. They would do blood work to analyze metabolites and
> chemicals, which could give them a better idea of what's happening and
> what's malfunctioning in my body. They would approve medications in
> the US like amisulpride and tianeptine, and they would give me health
> care and cover the cost of my meds. If they really wanted to help me
> they'd give me a better environment to live in so that I'm not so
> stressed out all the time and surrounded by my depressing parents.
> They could pay for my college so that I don't have to go to school
> full time and then work all weekend long and never get a day off and
> constantly be stressed out, causing my symptoms to get worse, causing
> everything to become more stressful, causing me to feel like I'm going
> to have a mental meltdown every half hour because I can never get any
> sleep and my body and mind feel soo tired and all I want to do is
> sleep forever.
>
> I know I need help. I just wish there was someone out there with the
> ability to help me.
>
> ~Cory

Under what auspices do you have to buy your own medications over
there? They are always free here.

Hello Cory,

Your constant search and tryout of new meds makes you unstable.
I suggest stick to your meds for at least 8 weeks and consult a p-doc
for the right dose, for all I know, you might have a wrong dose right
now.
Considering changing your personality, has it ever occured to you,
you might change for the better?

Berty

Actually this is the way I always feel about this disease and
treatment. This isn't something new or something hidden, I just
usually don't discuss these ideas and feelings on here all the time.
In my experience instability is a symptom of schizophrenia, but at
this point in time I would not consider myself unstable.

In America you have to buy your own medication when you don't have
health insurance, or when the meds you need aren't FDA approved and
you have to get them from places like Europe or India.

I don't actually have a p-doc right now. I have to find a new one and
talk to my health insurance and see if I can be approved to go see
one.

Last night my heart felt fluttery on amisulpride, which is bad because
that's how I felt on Geodon after a week too. They can both cause
prolonged QT intervals, which can lead to heart failure or heart
attack. At this point I think it would be wise for me to stop taking
this med if there is even a slight chance of me developing serious
heart problems. Maybe this is a drug I will only take a few times a
week in a very low dosage. Too bad, because it was starting to make me
feel better and happier.

~Cory

hello Corey

Eli Lilly was offfering a full scholarship for patients who take
zyprexa. You can check their website to see if it's still available.

I live in the US by the way. I liked being in the hospital. It was
good to be out of a stressful environment.

I was in a hospital outside Washington DC and they took us on trips to
the Smithsonian, the National Zoo and the Hard Rock Cafe near the
Washington Mall.

penguin