another paranoid episode :(

ok, heres if someone cares to know,
i m walking down the street and there are these two girls walking by me, i
see the one is saying something to other and the second girl responds "yea,
what can you do , life is bitch " , and i think she is saying that as a
response to other girl who said to her that i m very ugly person , and there
i go , all sorts of symptoms start to come up, moods, emotions, feelings,
headache..... you can call it an attack...... it always starts like this
for me, i dont understand why m i so sensitive to what other people say its
driving me nuts... i cant seem to talk to girls because of this, but maybe i
m just a puss and cant deal with the pain, probably, but still it fucks up
half of my day every time it happens.....
i m interested, Branimir and other people here, what you think why is a
person so sensitive to when somebody says something like this .... like hes
so ugly, is it possible to hear this insult and still avoid the pain,
because if it isnt i dont know how do i function, because everywhere i seem
to go i seem to think people think bad of me....

On Jun 23, 12:25 pm, "Sad Guy" <s...@guy.com> wrote:
> ok, heres if someone cares to know,
> i m walking down the street and there are these two girls walking by me, i
> see the one is saying something to other and the second girl responds "yea,
> what can you do , life is bitch " , and i think she is saying that as a
> response to other girl who said to her that i m very ugly person , and there
> i go , all sorts of symptoms start to come up, moods, emotions, feelings,
> headache..... you can call it an attack...... it always starts like this
> for me, i dont understand why m i so sensitive to what other people say its
> driving me nuts... i cant seem to talk to girls because of this, but maybe i
> m just a puss and cant deal with the pain, probably, but still it fucks up
> half of my day every time it happens.....
> i m interested, Branimir and other people here, what you think why is a
> person so sensitive to when somebody says something like this .... like hes
> so ugly, is it possible to hear this insult and still avoid the pain,
> because if it isnt i dont know how do i function, because everywhere i seem
> to go i seem to think people think bad of me....

Oh, I'm so sorry you're having this stuff. I have had it too. Other
times I don't have it at all. I don't know what makes it click one way
or the other... besides medicine. Medicine has helped me a lot. I hope
it can help you too. Maybe you are not on the right medicine, or
enough, or not on any at all.

How old are you? I believe this kind of stuff is worse, the
sensitivity, and thinking things are about you, when you are younger.

Alison

On Jun 23, 7:25*pm, "Sad Guy" <s...@guy.com> wrote:
> ok, heres if someone cares to know,
> i m walking down the street and there are these two girls walking by me, i
> see the one is saying something to other and the second girl responds "yea,
> what can you do , life is bitch " , and i think she is saying that as a
> response to other girl who said to her that i m very ugly person , and there
> i go , all sorts of symptoms start to come up, moods, emotions, feelings,
> headache..... you can call it an attack...... *it always starts like this
> for me, i dont understand why m i so sensitive to what other people say its
> driving me nuts... i cant seem to talk to girls because of this, but maybe i
> m just a puss and cant deal with the pain, probably, but still it fucks up
> half of my day every time it happens.....
> i m interested, Branimir and other people here, what you think why is a
> person so sensitive to when somebody says something like this .... *like hes
> so ugly, *is it possible to hear this insult and still avoid the pain,
> because if it isnt i dont know how do i function, because everywhere i seem
> to go i seem to think people think bad of me....

Are you sure they talked about you?
If they do, it's normal human reaction to feel insulted.
If they are unimportant part of your life try not to think much
about it.
This is not about what you think about yourself but about
what you actually heard.
It seems that you are specialized to hear only bad things
that someone says
Cheer up.

greetings, Branimir.

"Branimir Maksimovic" <bmaxa@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 23, 7:25 pm, "Sad Guy" <s...@guy.com> wrote:
> ok, heres if someone cares to know,
> i m walking down the street and there are these two girls walking by me, i
> see the one is saying something to other and the second girl responds
> "yea,
> what can you do , life is bitch " , and i think she is saying that as a
> response to other girl who said to her that i m very ugly person , and
> there
> i go , all sorts of symptoms start to come up, moods, emotions, feelings,
> headache..... you can call it an attack...... it always starts like this
> for me, i dont understand why m i so sensitive to what other people say
> its
> driving me nuts... i cant seem to talk to girls because of this, but maybe
> i
> m just a puss and cant deal with the pain, probably, but still it fucks up
> half of my day every time it happens.....
> i m interested, Branimir and other people here, what you think why is a
> person so sensitive to when somebody says something like this .... like
> hes
> so ugly, is it possible to hear this insult and still avoid the pain,
> because if it isnt i dont know how do i function, because everywhere i
> seem
> to go i seem to think people think bad of me....

>Are you sure they talked about you?

Good question, when i think of it i m not entirely , but it could be a
coincidence indeed, maybe
they talked about some other person from a conversation or a gossip before
the event, or maybe not about
person at all but saying "yea what can you do" suggest they talked about a
person right?
I think my problem is that i feel certain about something while certainty is
not rational to feel, for example
i m certain my neighbour ate my oranges but maybe the postman did so i
attack the neighbour and make a terrible
mistake, i tried to clarify similar incidents like this one by talking to
people about it politely and almost everytime
they would like swear to me in tears they didnt say anything bout me, so
that makes me think i m a blind man or half blind
man when it comes to testing reallity, what i see is not but yet i feel deep
down certainty about my thoughts, sometimes i just
doubt but this time i was like sure they said it and i realized that made
the feelings even worse, so i guess i have to practice
being still and stop the judgments unless there is enough evidence to
execute the judgment but my brain obviously has an agenda
of its own, sometimes i think something inside of me wants me to suffer as
much as possible almost like feed on the pain and seek for it
i often find myself listen attentively at other people conversations and i
think its sick , and i think its a matter of a habbit actually
and lifestyle i chose to have over the years, i dag my grave every day for
all these years, i m not saying other people didnt help me at that,
but i chose to develop all sorts of self destructive habbits unconciously
yes,.. but it was my choice... and
i m trying to get rid of them, i think i need to reprogram my brain slowly
to do other things and stop strenghtening bad habbits like
seeking material for new sensless judgments that will add to residue of pain
i have in my unconcious mind.
And that is the problem really, every day i add new pain, new stuff, new
mild traums to live with and its hard thing to deal with in
your mind, its like a poison i inject into my system daily and it has to
stop, its enough!

>If they do, it's normal human reaction to feel insulted.

Maybe , these girls like to gossip and talk behind peoples back but again i
cant be sure, i think being paranoid is a matter
of chosing negative viewpoint over a positive or none at all, so feeling
insulted could be a part of my dreamworld here yet the
pain felt because of it is very real, the mind is very stuborrn though and
wants to think its thoughts, but i hope the end of suffering is near.

>This is not about what you think about yourself but about
>what you actually heard.

The girl A talks to girl B , girl B looking all nervous walking by me says
"what can u do" ...
i dont know.... if i was sure they mocked me id bloody spit in their faces.

It seems that you are specialized to hear only bad things
that someone says
Cheer up.

Yea.

greetings, Branimir.


greets

On Jun 23, 11:57*pm, "Sad Guy" <s...@guy.com> wrote:

>
> I think my problem is that i feel certain about something while certaintyis
> not rational to feel, for example
> i m certain my neighbour ate my oranges but maybe the postman did so i
> attack the neighbour and make a terrible
> mistake, i tried to clarify similar incidents like this one by talking to
> people about it politely and almost everytime
> they would like swear to me in tears they didnt say anything bout me, so
> that makes me think i m a blind man or half blind
> man when it comes to testing reallity, what i see is not but yet i feel deep
> down certainty about my thoughts, sometimes i just
> doubt but this time i was like sure they said it and i realized that made
> the feelings even worse, so i guess i have to practice
> being still and stop the judgments unless there is enough evidence to
> execute the judgment but my brain obviously has an agenda
> of its own, sometimes i think something inside of me wants me to suffer as
> much as possible almost like feed on the pain and seek for it
> i often find myself listen attentively at other people conversations and i
> think its sick , and i think its a matter of a habbit actually
> and lifestyle i chose to have over the years, i dag my grave every day for
> all these years, i m not saying other people didnt help me at that,
> but i chose to develop all sorts of self destructive habbits unconciously
> yes,.. but it was my choice... *and
> i m trying to get rid of them, i think i need to reprogram my brain slowly
> to do other things and stop strenghtening bad habbits like
> seeking material for new sensless judgments that will add to residue of pain
> i have in my unconcious mind.
> And that is the problem really, every day i add new pain, new stuff, new
> mild traums to live with and its hard thing to deal with in
> your mind, its like a poison i inject into my system daily and it has to
> stop, its enough!
>

Well there is one religious story.
One day man lost some object and he thought that someone stole it.
He looked at his neighbor and neighbor looked like someone who
can stole that object.
Next day he found object and suddenly neighbor no longer
looked like someone who can steal.
It's simply the way we think.
We never see reality as it is, but we alway look through glass
of ourselves.

> >If they do, it's normal human reaction to feel insulted.
>
> Maybe , these girls like to gossip and talk behind peoples back but againi
> cant be sure, i think being paranoid is a matter
> of chosing negative viewpoint over a positive or none at all, so feeling
> insulted could be a part of my dreamworld here yet the
> pain felt because of it is very real, *the mind is very stuborrn thoughand
> wants to think its thoughts, but i hope the end of suffering is near.

Even if they talked about you , you should try to eliminate pain.
I know it's slow process but achievable.
This is why Christ says if one slap you in one cheek,
turn another.

>
> >This is not about what you think about yourself but about
> >what you actually heard.
>
> The girl A talks to girl B *, girl B looking all nervous walking by me says
> "what can u do" ...
> i dont know.... *if i was sure they mocked me id bloody spit in their faces.

That would be wrong even if they talked about you.
Try to be above situation.
I know it's hard

>
> It seems that you are specialized to hear only bad things
> that someone says
> Cheer up.
>
> Yea.

Just pay attention what people speak.
There must be someone who says at least something
nicely about someone

>
> greetings, Branimir.
>
> greets

"Branimir Maksimovic" <bmaxa@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Well there is one religious story.
One day man lost some object and he thought that someone stole it.
He looked at his neighbor and neighbor looked like someone who
can stole that object.
Next day he found object and suddenly neighbor no longer
looked like someone who can steal.
It's simply the way we think.
We never see reality as it is, but we alway look through glass
of ourselves.

Yea, and seems that every thought we have has this burdain along with it or
pleasure if its a positive, for example you hate someone so every time you
see
this person you will suffer because you carry the pain,
every object can be put through this lens depending on what we think, and
its amazing really if one can learn
to program his thoughts one could achieve a state of paradise.
But of course its hard when faced with hard evidence, however in many cases
like mine there is no hard evidence,
as well is many situations in life, degree of posbillity gets thicker and
thicker but really even when something is most
probable its still uncertain wether it will happen, and even in that case,
when these negative things happen even then you
can say that the body and mind is not you and simply detach from all that,
so life really should be easy but we always make it
hard with out thoughts.

Sad Guy wrote:
> ok, heres if someone cares to know,
> i m walking down the street and there are these two girls walking by me, i
> see the one is saying something to other and the second girl responds "yea,
> what can you do , life is bitch " , and i think she is saying that as a
> response to other girl who said to her that i m very ugly person , and there
> i go , all sorts of symptoms start to come up, moods, emotions, feelings,
> headache..... you can call it an attack...... it always starts like this
> for me, i dont understand why m i so sensitive to what other people say its
> driving me nuts... i cant seem to talk to girls because of this, but maybe i
> m just a puss and cant deal with the pain, probably, but still it fucks up
> half of my day every time it happens.....
> i m interested, Branimir and other people here, what you think why is a
> person so sensitive to when somebody says something like this .... like hes
> so ugly, is it possible to hear this insult and still avoid the pain,
> because if it isnt i dont know how do i function, because everywhere i seem
> to go i seem to think people think bad of me....

Almost everyone has insecurities. Sometimes it helps to ignore them and
push past the insecurity, other times it helps to remember past
occasions that contradict those thoughts and feelings. I'm still
working on some of my insecurities, as are others I know.

Perhaps ask yourself questions until you reach a root.

Why do the thoughts of a few strangers matter so much?

Why is that?

Why?


Why does it matter if people don't like or think "bad of" you?

Why?

Why?


That's only half the problem. Recognizing a root takes time, and
insight, but weeding out the connections from that root, and realizing a
solution to fully pull it is more difficult.

What can you do to change the current situation in a good way?

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On Jun 23, 6:25*pm, "Sad Guy" <s...@guy.com> wrote:
> ok, heres if someone cares to know,
> i m walking down the street and there are these two girls walking by me, i
> see the one is saying something to other and the second girl responds "yea,
> what can you do , life is bitch " , and i think she is saying that as a
> response to other girl who said to her that i m very ugly person , and there
> i go , all sorts of symptoms start to come up, moods, emotions, feelings,
> headache..... you can call it an attack

Maybe they were really talking about you and that you are ugly, so
what?

What would happen if somebody stopped you on the street and said "hey,
you are really ugly"?

V.

"vauxall" <vauxall@virgilio.it> wrote in message
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On Jun 23, 6:25 pm, "Sad Guy" <s...@guy.com> wrote:
> ok, heres if someone cares to know,
> i m walking down the street and there are these two girls walking by me, i
> see the one is saying something to other and the second girl responds
> "yea,
> what can you do , life is bitch " , and i think she is saying that as a
> response to other girl who said to her that i m very ugly person , and
> there
> i go , all sorts of symptoms start to come up, moods, emotions, feelings,
> headache..... you can call it an attack

Maybe they were really talking about you and that you are ugly, so
what?

What would happen if somebody stopped you on the street and said "hey,
you are really ugly"?

V.


Ok, i really didnt need that.