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Old 08-08-2008, 12:37 PM
Miguel Alberto
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Kohls has an ad where beautiful girls are crying out for "a new
revolution" and "a new constitution".
If there is a constitutional convention we will never regain our
First Amendment Rights. Anything could be lost. THEY will try to lock us
up for what THEY think we are thinking, if Kohls can pull this off.

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Old 08-08-2008, 06:28 PM
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Miguel Alberto wrote:
> Kohls has an ad where beautiful girls are crying out for "a new
> revolution" and "a new constitution".
> If there is a constitutional convention we will never regain our
> First Amendment Rights. Anything could be lost. THEY will try to lock us
> up for what THEY think we are thinking, if Kohls can pull this off.



What if it's just a clever advert? I don't think Kohls is all that bad.

Also, your claim of treason by Kohls I believe goes against the US
constitution. Here is my proof:

"Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in
levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them
aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the
testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in
open court."

You know more about the ad than I do though.


The constitution isn't followed or read much these days. It's already
been violated. The current US administration has violated the
constitution, but few seem to care.


The first amendment of the constitution is violated from what I see.
You're not allowed to peaceably protest in some cases, and in some
places. During the president's visits to various places many people
have protested, but they push them far off to the side, to an
unreasonable degree.

"Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."


The fourth amendment to the constitution has been violated knowingly by
the current US administration, repeatedly. In fact the recent call for
the impeachment of Bush stated his violation of the oath he took and the
constitution.

"Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place
to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."


This I can tell you is most certainly not followed:
"Amendment VII

In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed
twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no
fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the
United States, than according to the rules of the common law."

This happens all too often from what I see in the news:

"Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor
cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."

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Old 08-08-2008, 06:28 PM
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On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:03:20 +0000 (UTC), GPS <georgeps@xmission.com>
wrote:

>Miguel Alberto wrote:
>> Kohls has an ad where beautiful girls are crying out for "a new
>> revolution" and "a new constitution".
>> If there is a constitutional convention we will never regain our
>> First Amendment Rights. Anything could be lost. THEY will try to lock us
>> up for what THEY think we are thinking, if Kohls can pull this off.

>
>
>What if it's just a clever advert? I don't think Kohls is all that bad.
>
>Also, your claim of treason by Kohls I believe goes against the US
>constitution. Here is my proof:
>
>"Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in
>levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them
>aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the
>testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in
>open court."
>
>You know more about the ad than I do though.
>
>
>The constitution isn't followed or read much these days. It's already
>been violated. The current US administration has violated the
>constitution, but few seem to care.
>
>
>The first amendment of the constitution is violated from what I see.
>You're not allowed to peaceably protest in some cases, and in some
>places. During the president's visits to various places many people
>have protested, but they push them far off to the side, to an
>unreasonable degree.


Or they plant cops to start a riot, so they can justify laying the
smack down. They did that up here, but the rable-rouser protesters
were all wearing the same boots as the cops, they didn't think that
one through.

>"Amendment I
>
>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
>prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
>speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
>assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
>
>
>The fourth amendment to the constitution has been violated knowingly by
>the current US administration, repeatedly. In fact the recent call for
>the impeachment of Bush stated his violation of the oath he took and the
>constitution.
>
>"Amendment IV
>
>The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
>and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
>violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
>supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place
>to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
>
>
>This I can tell you is most certainly not followed:
>"Amendment VII
>
>In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed
>twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no
>fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the
>United States, than according to the rules of the common law."


20 of what dollars? Gold based? Fiat? Do you account for inflation
(either real, or the magical offical number.)?

>This happens all too often from what I see in the news:
>
>"Amendment VIII
>
>Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor
>cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."


There are some other "global" issues your having problems with as
well.

Brian

________________________________

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de-do-do-do, de-da-da-da
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Old 08-09-2008, 02:04 AM
Miguel Alberto
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In 1995 we came just one state's vote to a constitutional
convention. Legion Magazine said, "Anyone who is for a constitutional
convention is a traitor". The constitutional convention faded away. But,
it's back, with Obama's intent to write a new constitution. And, he has
already started his propaganda machine with the ad of Kohl's. Those
beautiful girls screeching for "a new revolution" and "a new
constitution" could be very catchie. Too catchie!
Look what happened with that harmless iPOD ad over a year ago.
There was an incredibly beautiful girl singing to a certain kind of
music with the scenes jumping around periodically. And, since, all the
big companies are trying to cash in on any association with it. It has
started a whole cultural style. That was harmless, but, it shows the
power of beauty in advertizing. It has been used for evil by Kohl's.

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Old 08-09-2008, 05:15 PM
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There are some incredible horror stories about Obama; but, his
planning a constitutional convention is probably only hear say. I doubt
that if he was planning to replace our Constitution he would proclaim it
yet.
It would be too unpopuar during an election for a candidate to
threaten our Constitution. When we swore to defend the Constitution, it
was THIS Constitution. But, hear say or not, let's not take any chances.
His Islamic upbringing, and brainwashing from infancy, is a
fearful fact.


http://community.webtv.net/mpereira/TheSecretsofthe

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Old 08-09-2008, 05:15 PM
Miguel Alberto
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It is hear say. I certainly didn't hear him say it himself, but, I
don't go out of my way to hear what candidates have to say anyway. They
are going to say whatever will get them into office. They invest
millions of dollars to get in and they don't want it to go to waste.
It is safest to assume the rumors are true, especially when you
are dealing with someone who was brainwashed in childhood by our present
national enemy, Islam. We are in an officially declared state of war.
This is wartime! And that war is actually with Islam.
The Koran does order Moslems to force Islam on the world. If there
are a few "luke warm" Moslems, that doesn't make Islam harmess. The
Koranic Islam is the worst enemy of Liberty. We are at war with Islamic
tyranny. Let us keep it out of the White House!

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Old 08-11-2008, 05:56 AM
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Michael A. Pereira wrote:
MAP> There are some incredible horror stories about Obama; but, his
MAP>planning a constitutional convention is probably only hear say. I doubt
MAP>that if he was planning to replace our Constitution he would proclaim it
MAP>yet.
MAP> It would be too unpopular during an election for a candidate to
MAP>threaten our Constitution. When we swore to defend the Constitution, it
MAP>was THIS Constitution. But, hear say or not, let's not take any chances.
MAP> His Islamic upbringing, and brainwashing from infancy, is a
MAP>fearful fact.

Vote for McCain! Or better yet Bob Barr!

Write in Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party!

<chesucat stumps>

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To program anything that is programmable is an obsession!
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Old 08-13-2008, 01:29 PM
Miguel Alberto
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Definately, I am voting for McCain!
Obama has an ad on TV accusing McCain for getting some funds from
American business, while, Obama has received about $35,000,000 from our
enemies during war time.
Here we are in a state of war and who is going to vote to have the
enemy take over the American presidency? He refuses to salute the flag,
he is getting tremendous financial support from our present war time
enemies in Iraq and Iran. It sounds like treason to me!
Many Christian Pastors have predicted that America is going to
become another Zimbabwe.
The gas prices are a beginning in that horrible direction. Kohl's ad
calling for "a new revolution" and "a new constitution" is more of a
beginnning in that disasterous direction.
Knowing there are other timelines, I am going to take the timeline
where this doesn't happen, and the best way to go is by the timelines
where McCain wins the election.

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Old 08-13-2008, 11:29 PM
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> Definately, I am voting for McCain!

<snipped>

> Knowing there are other timelines, I am going to take the timeline
> where this doesn't happen, and the best way to go is by the timelines
> where McCain wins the election.
>


Good luck with that timeline fantasy, Miguel. Obama is going to beat McCain
by a large margin. And well he should win. The US is ripe for change away
from the neo-conservative ideologs that have nearly ruined the country.
Obama represents positive changes for the PEOPLE like ending the war in Iraq
and starting up universal health care. McCain is old, out of touch, and has
an explosive temper - he is more of a "good ol' boy" than a maverick. Hell
McCain admits he doesn't even know how to use the Internet. Good grief,
Charlie Brown.

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Old 08-14-2008, 12:54 PM
Miguel Alberto
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Islam is far worse than Conservatism, and living under an Islamic
government is worse than living in the old Soviet Union. With Al Kaida
in the Whitehouse, and the war against Islamic tyranny ended, the
Moslems may not bomb us anymore, but, they'll be taking over everywhere.
Fantasy?

Re: Quantum Field Effects, The Flat Universe and Gravity

Group: alt.support.schizophrenia Date: Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 6:41am From:
gellie618@webtv.net (Miguel*Alberto)
************Dr. Hugh Everett declared the
existence of other probability timelines. He proved them mathematically
from Schrodinger's Equation, and he explained the situation of
Schrodinger's Cat by saying the that the cat was alive in one timeline
and dead on another.
************These timelines don't branch from
one another. Each timeline has its own root of causality. But, with a
fast entropy production rate, EPR, you may easily change timelines.
There is a timeline where you win the lottery. You may go there. But,
with one thought of doubt you'll miss it.
************Reverend Magee said, "You will get
what you want in Hell, and, that's the problem". What happens is that
every thought manifests. Wishes come true, but, imagined fears also come
true. And, if you get guilty for what you've done, your guilty thoughts
will punish you,
************Whereas, a person who has, "captured
every thought in obedience to Christ", will expect Heaven and it WILL be
Paradise. The "subtle bodies" called "soul" and "spirit" are those
portions of us with higher EPR's, and when the "physical" body is left
behind in flat timespace, our minds have the greater powers of the
globally bent timespaces.
************There was a quotation of a fictional
character that went something like, "My mind has plummeted to such
depths you couldn't conceive. I have harnessed the shadows that strive
from world to world sowing death and madness. The sun and stars move at
my command. Time and cosmos are mine. But, it's messy."
************What he has done is that he is
changing timelines to the various timelines where he has what he wants,
or, what he expects. He's not thinking of what could go wrong, yet, for,
when he does, those things WILL go wrong. He will have caused it by his
own thoughts.
************There are various levels of power.
In flat timespace you have to "earn" what you get. But, a little bit
into globally bent timespace and a ritual will get you what you want. A
little further, making an appropriate symbol will get you what you want.
A little further in, writing it. A little further in, speaking it. Still
further in it starts to get very dangerous, for then, what you visualize
manifests as your reality. And still further in every thought manifests.
Can you control every thought?
************In May 2003's Scientific American
there was an article by Dr. Max Tegmark titled, "The Multiverse". Here
is showed, among many other things, that these hypershells of various
warps of timespace exist here now. Also every possibility exists, and in
this infinite "multiverse" they are repeated infinitely. There is plenty
of room for them. It is such that, fiction you read or see on TV is real
life elsewhere on another timeline.
************There are things that are
impossible. There may be some cartoons or movies like Batman or
Spiderman that have impossible things in them that aren't reproduced
exactly on other timelines. For example, you cannot swivel a triangle on
its vertices until you are in a timespace with a pi value of two or
less. A square will fold right up, but a triangle wont budge.
************Harvard University quantum physics
professor Dr. Lisa Randall defined for science, the fifth dimension as
being that line of travel in and out of the variously bent timespaces.
She did this just like Einstein defined time as the fourth dimenson.
Previously the fourth dimension had been imagined to be an extra spatial
dimension for "spirits".
************The line of travel "sideways in
time", as Dr. Julian Barbour calls it, has only been informally called
the sixth dimension. On graphing the extents of polarity cancellation,
entropies, from the X axis to the Y axis, the Origin represnets maximum
EPR, so that the line going from and to the Origin represents the fifth
dimension.
************But, the line going from the X axis
(polarities separated) to the Y axis (polarities merged and cancelled)
could also be called a dimension. Will it be called the seventh
dimension? Probability timelines are another graph. From the fourth
dimension on it has all been a matter of definition.
************But, for my associates and I, this
is not speculation, it is past experience. We have had the experiences
first, and then we have tried to explain them. First came the
"laboratory proofs", and then we tried to figure out some of the
theories. Been there, done that.

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Old 08-14-2008, 08:32 PM
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Fantasy was definitely the wrong word, Miguel, my apologies. I actually
meant delusion, and this certainly is the right place for that sort of
thinking. I have had 'timeline' phenomena myself to deal with, but calm
rationality (through medication) shows me these timeline phenomena are due
to corrupted thinking within my brain and not any actual real aspect of the
noumenal world.

Which is the worse evil, Islam or Conservatism? That is debatable, for
sure, both are oppressive, war mongering, and authoritarian. I don't think,
however, that that is the choice at hand in the upcoming US election.
Remember socialism is merely an economic system, with good and bad aspects,
just like capitalism. Socialism is not a political system. A democratic
republic is merely a political system, with it's own good and bad aspects.
It is by no means perfect, else Bush would have never got in office in the
first place.

Obama is a champion of democracy and fully supports the processes of our
democratic republic. Obama is NOT going to install an Islamic government in
the US, though he may 'socialize' the medical system. McCain on the other
hand WILL continue Bush's authoritarian ways by continuing the war, which
was clearly an egregious power grab based on lies. The Iraqi war boils down
to soldier and civilian blood for oil, money, and a permanent military base
in the Persian Gulf. The US could do a lot worse than making peace and
electing Obama; Bush's election and re-election are examples of the US's
democratic republic at its worst, and electing McCain would be a furtherance
of a broken political system.

It is well past time for the US citizenry to 'right' the ship of state.
Power to the people! Vote for Obama in 2008!

jerasmus


"Miguel Alberto" <gellie618@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:29450-48A4009E-2651@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net...
Islam is far worse than Conservatism, and living under an Islamic
government is worse than living in the old Soviet Union. With Al Kaida
in the Whitehouse, and the war against Islamic tyranny ended, the
Moslems may not bomb us anymore, but, they'll be taking over everywhere.
Fantasy?

Re: Quantum Field Effects, The Flat Universe and Gravity

Group: alt.support.schizophrenia Date: Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 6:41am From:
gellie618@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto)
Dr. Hugh Everett declared the
existence of other probability timelines. He proved them mathematically
from Schrodinger's Equation, and he explained the situation of
Schrodinger's Cat by saying the that the cat was alive in one timeline
and dead on another.
These timelines don't branch from
one another. Each timeline has its own root of causality. But, with a
fast entropy production rate, EPR, you may easily change timelines.
There is a timeline where you win the lottery. You may go there. But,
with one thought of doubt you'll miss it.
Reverend Magee said, "You will get
what you want in Hell, and, that's the problem". What happens is that
every thought manifests. Wishes come true, but, imagined fears also come
true. And, if you get guilty for what you've done, your guilty thoughts
will punish you,
Whereas, a person who has, "captured
every thought in obedience to Christ", will expect Heaven and it WILL be
Paradise. The "subtle bodies" called "soul" and "spirit" are those
portions of us with higher EPR's, and when the "physical" body is left
behind in flat timespace, our minds have the greater powers of the
globally bent timespaces.
There was a quotation of a fictional
character that went something like, "My mind has plummeted to such
depths you couldn't conceive. I have harnessed the shadows that strive
from world to world sowing death and madness. The sun and stars move at
my command. Time and cosmos are mine. But, it's messy."
What he has done is that he is
changing timelines to the various timelines where he has what he wants,
or, what he expects. He's not thinking of what could go wrong, yet, for,
when he does, those things WILL go wrong. He will have caused it by his
own thoughts.
There are various levels of power.
In flat timespace you have to "earn" what you get. But, a little bit
into globally bent timespace and a ritual will get you what you want. A
little further, making an appropriate symbol will get you what you want.
A little further in, writing it. A little further in, speaking it. Still
further in it starts to get very dangerous, for then, what you visualize
manifests as your reality. And still further in every thought manifests.
Can you control every thought?
In May 2003's Scientific American
there was an article by Dr. Max Tegmark titled, "The Multiverse". Here
is showed, among many other things, that these hypershells of various
warps of timespace exist here now. Also every possibility exists, and in
this infinite "multiverse" they are repeated infinitely. There is plenty
of room for them. It is such that, fiction you read or see on TV is real
life elsewhere on another timeline.
There are things that are
impossible. There may be some cartoons or movies like Batman or
Spiderman that have impossible things in them that aren't reproduced
exactly on other timelines. For example, you cannot swivel a triangle on
its vertices until you are in a timespace with a pi value of two or
less. A square will fold right up, but a triangle wont budge.
Harvard University quantum physics
professor Dr. Lisa Randall defined for science, the fifth dimension as
being that line of travel in and out of the variously bent timespaces.
She did this just like Einstein defined time as the fourth dimenson.
Previously the fourth dimension had been imagined to be an extra spatial
dimension for "spirits".
The line of travel "sideways in
time", as Dr. Julian Barbour calls it, has only been informally called
the sixth dimension. On graphing the extents of polarity cancellation,
entropies, from the X axis to the Y axis, the Origin represnets maximum
EPR, so that the line going from and to the Origin represents the fifth
dimension.
But, the line going from the X axis
(polarities separated) to the Y axis (polarities merged and cancelled)
could also be called a dimension. Will it be called the seventh
dimension? Probability timelines are another graph. From the fourth
dimension on it has all been a matter of definition.
But, for my associates and I, this
is not speculation, it is past experience. We have had the experiences
first, and then we have tried to explain them. First came the
"laboratory proofs", and then we tried to figure out some of the
theories. Been there, done that.

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Old 08-15-2008, 04:17 AM
Miguel Alberto
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One day at the dentist I got some pains that almost put me through
the ceiling. It did push me to a a conspicuously different timeline. I
soon discovered that a friends house that had been at the end of a dead
end street was now on a circle. And, my aunt's house that had been in
the middle along a street was now a corner house. These people didn't
move. The same houses were in different locations. The street forms were
different.
The same kind of things happened to my cousin. He has shown me his
town newspaper's anouncement of his death, He supposedly died on
September 24th, 1984, but, he is live and well today.
Islam would be worse for me. Islam forces everybody to bow toward
Mecca five times a day. I get a migraine headache if my head goes lower
than my waistline. Islam forces you to fast without food or water, from
sunrise to sunset, and I am hypoglycemic and would get diabetes from
fasting. Anyway, even if I were in perfect health, that is too much
inconvenience for me. I will not submit to Islam!

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