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06-13-2008, 10:49 AM
| | | can abnormal computer work time affect schizos? hello, this may sound a bit silly, but
do you think its possible to have a progression of sch symptoms due to too
much use of computer
, i think i used it over 10 hours a day over past 2 years, sometimes 10
hours straight almost....
do you think this could have affected me somehow, because now my symptoms
are worse i think. | 
06-13-2008, 10:49 AM
| | | Re: can abnormal computer work time affect schizos? No. It wouldn't hurt. It would help. Computer use requires order.
The more order you indulge in the more orderly your mind becomes, and
that is the best mental health.
If someone else is telling you it is harmful, they have a personal
or collective ulterior motive for trying to trick you out of it.
The computer use is making you more well ordered, more mentally
healthy, than those around you who are not using a computer many hours a
day. | 
06-13-2008, 02:45 PM
| | | Re: can abnormal computer work time affect schizos?
"Sad Guy" <sad@guy.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
g2t94n$31s$1@ss408.t-com.hr...
> hello, this may sound a bit silly, but
> do you think its possible to have a progression of sch symptoms due to too
> much use of computer
> , i think i used it over 10 hours a day over past 2 years, sometimes 10
> hours straight almost....
> do you think this could have affected me somehow, because now my symptoms
> are worse i think.
I think that working too long on a computer (or elsewhere for that matter)
can negatively affect symptoms of *any* illness. Ten hours a day is too long
and you should rest every few hours. Computer work is stressful, hypnotic,
tiring...
Take care,
Katie
> | 
06-13-2008, 02:45 PM
| | | Re: can abnormal computer work time affect schizos?
"Miguel Alberto" <gellie618@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:27749-485240F1-254@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
> No. It wouldn't hurt. It would help. Computer use requires order.
> The more order you indulge in the more orderly your mind becomes, and
> that is the best mental health.
> If someone else is telling you it is harmful, they have a personal
> or collective ulterior motive for trying to trick you out of it.
> The computer use is making you more well ordered, more mentally
> healthy, than those around you who are not using a computer many hours a
> day.
it gives me a headache often if i work longer then 3 hours and the headaches
grow worse and worse. | 
06-13-2008, 02:45 PM
| | | Re: can abnormal computer work time affect schizos? On Jun 13, 9:54 am, "Sad Guy" <s...@guy.com> wrote:
> hello, this may sound a bit silly, but
> do you think its possible to have a progression of sch symptoms due to too
> much use of computer
> , i think i used it over 10 hours a day over past 2 years, sometimes 10
> hours straight almost....
Abnormal working hours affect anyone. If you feel tired go for
vacation.
> do you think this could have affected me somehow, because now my symptoms
> are worse i think.
What symptoms? You are still here?
Greetings, Branimir. | 
06-13-2008, 04:49 PM
| | | Re: can abnormal computer work time affect schizos?
"Branimir Maksimovic" <bmaxa@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f50bcd88-2ec1-4949-ada9-5c253f42daa0@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 13, 9:54 am, "Sad Guy" <s...@guy.com> wrote:
>> hello, this may sound a bit silly, but
>> do you think its possible to have a progression of sch symptoms due to
>> too
>> much use of computer
>> , i think i used it over 10 hours a day over past 2 years, sometimes 10
>> hours straight almost....
> Abnormal working hours affect anyone. If you feel tired go for
> vacation.
>
>> do you think this could have affected me somehow, because now my symptoms
>> are worse i think.
>
> What symptoms? You are still here?
>
> Greetings, Branimir.
I dunno, i m not paranoid can function , but my thoughts go slower then
usual....
like blocked.... | 
06-13-2008, 04:49 PM
| | | Re: can abnormal computer work time affect schizos? On Jun 13, 5:32 pm, "Sad Guy" <s...@guy.com> wrote:
> "Branimir Maksimovic" <bm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f50bcd88-2ec1-4949-ada9-5c253f42daa0@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Jun 13, 9:54 am, "Sad Guy" <s...@guy.com> wrote:
> >> hello, this may sound a bit silly, but
> >> do you think its possible to have a progression of sch symptoms due to
> >> too
> >> much use of computer
> >> , i think i used it over 10 hours a day over past 2 years, sometimes 10
> >> hours straight almost....
> > Abnormal working hours affect anyone. If you feel tired go for
> > vacation.
>
> >> do you think this could have affected me somehow, because now my symptoms
> >> are worse i think.
>
> > What symptoms? You are still here?
>
> > Greetings, Branimir.
>
> I dunno, i m not paranoid can function , but my thoughts go slower then
> usual....
> like blocked....
You are just tired. Take a easy book and enjoy reading 
When you start to became aware of
symptoms, you can willingly eliminate symptoms.
That's another path to cure.
Greetings, Branimir. | 
06-14-2008, 06:50 AM
| | | Re: can abnormal computer work time affect schizos? If this is "work" as in employment, it probably involves stress. Sustained
stress is harmful.
However, if the computer use is recreational or social, and is not
stressing, then I think it is harmless. | 
06-14-2008, 06:50 AM
| | | Re: can abnormal computer work time affect schizos? On Jun 13, 8:45 pm, "Quiet Neighbor" <priv...@spamless.net> wrote:
> If this is "work" as in employment, it probably involves stress. Sustained
> stress is harmful.
>
> However, if the computer use is recreational or social, and is not
> stressing, then I think it is harmless.
Funny, I would say my experience has been just the opposite. Working
on a computer all day is therapeutic, while spending my free time on
the computer is compulsive.
Work is where I do most of my interacting with people. | 
06-14-2008, 12:29 PM
| | | Re: can abnormal computer work time affect schizos? You lucky guy; or is it your job. Would I love to be able to be on
the internet for ten hours! This is a WebTV here, and it requires the
phone line. I get up as early as I am allowed to get up to get as much
internet as I can.
My cousin, who is only two years older than I am, wants to keep
the phone lines open all day. No. It's not her livlihood. She is
considered to be a disabled person too.
But furthermore, she is a tyrant and enslaves me to accomplish
works that are sometimes impossible. And, I get in trouble for not being
able to perform the impossible. I just want the rights of a tenant, like
all the other tenants we have here.
BC, before computers (the internet, that is) I had it made! I
lived alone, I was under a guardianship, and my guardian was a VA
appointed lawyer.
But, this very same cousin here I live with, Janie, brought me to
"the Tea Room" where I got involved with a Spiritualist cult, Janie
married an enemy, and I married one of this cult's spirit mediums.
Through their grapevine with other cults, which is the actual real
Satanic Underground, they got rid of my guardianship by perjury, fraud,
and intimidation, and they ripped me off of everything of monetary value
I had in the world.
There were no less than five hundred fortunetellers, Witches,
mediums, and Goths, who convinced me that I was the Beast 666 and would
rule the world if I sat back and let them eliminate my guardianship.
And, I believed them!
Janie developed into a fanatical Chistian while I was gone; and,
after coming here I also became a Christian. I don't think I'm very good
at it! I had a natural aptitude for the "dark side". I made as much as
$500 an hour as a professional psychic myself.
And, here I am stuck with what ever scumbag tenants Janie gets. We
always had good tenents, but, last year we got a tyranical one. She had
Janie wrapped around her little finger, but then she threatened Janie
with severe bodily injury, and Janie woke up and got rid of her.
Now we have an insidious tenant, who is worse! Martha is a
psychiatric nurse who has Janie wrapped around her little finger by her
psychological manipulations. She is trying to bring her scumbag Mucinex
mucus family in here where there is no more room. There is no vacancy.
Her son just breaks one thing after another, and he has seriously
injured some of his aquaintences.
Janie would never let me move out. She said she would destroy what
I had left if I tried. I have now gone totally broke, except for my 100%
VA disability compensation, and the VA wouldn't allow me to live alone.
I remember living this before. I remember living portions of my life
over, now 72 times. I think I can get back what I had again. I've done
it before. But, it's trickie, and it has taken as long as a thousand
years to get my own body back. http://community.webtv.net/mpereira/TheSecretsofthe | 
06-14-2008, 12:29 PM
| | | Re: can abnormal computer work time affect schizos? There's an object lesson there for everyone else, Michael: Don't get
involved with occultists. Once they get their hooks into you they never
leave you alone. I learned that lesson myself at great personal cost.
"Michael A. Pereira" <mpereira@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:22788-48539B2D-437@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net...
> You lucky guy; or is it your job. Would I love to be able to be on
> the internet for ten hours! This is a WebTV here, and it requires the
> phone line. I get up as early as I am allowed to get up to get as much
> internet as I can.
> My cousin, who is only two years older than I am, wants to keep
> the phone lines open all day. No. It's not her livlihood. She is
> considered to be a disabled person too.
> But furthermore, she is a tyrant and enslaves me to accomplish
> works that are sometimes impossible. And, I get in trouble for not being
> able to perform the impossible. I just want the rights of a tenant, like
> all the other tenants we have here.
> BC, before computers (the internet, that is) I had it made! I
> lived alone, I was under a guardianship, and my guardian was a VA
> appointed lawyer.
> But, this very same cousin here I live with, Janie, brought me to
> "the Tea Room" where I got involved with a Spiritualist cult, Janie
> married an enemy, and I married one of this cult's spirit mediums.
> Through their grapevine with other cults, which is the actual real
> Satanic Underground, they got rid of my guardianship by perjury, fraud,
> and intimidation, and they ripped me off of everything of monetary value
> I had in the world.
> There were no less than five hundred fortunetellers, Witches,
> mediums, and Goths, who convinced me that I was the Beast 666 and would
> rule the world if I sat back and let them eliminate my guardianship.
> And, I believed them!
> Janie developed into a fanatical Chistian while I was gone; and,
> after coming here I also became a Christian. I don't think I'm very good
> at it! I had a natural aptitude for the "dark side". I made as much as
> $500 an hour as a professional psychic myself.
> And, here I am stuck with what ever scumbag tenants Janie gets. We
> always had good tenents, but, last year we got a tyranical one. She had
> Janie wrapped around her little finger, but then she threatened Janie
> with severe bodily injury, and Janie woke up and got rid of her.
> Now we have an insidious tenant, who is worse! Martha is a
> psychiatric nurse who has Janie wrapped around her little finger by her
> psychological manipulations. She is trying to bring her scumbag Mucinex
> mucus family in here where there is no more room. There is no vacancy.
> Her son just breaks one thing after another, and he has seriously
> injured some of his aquaintences.
> Janie would never let me move out. She said she would destroy what
> I had left if I tried. I have now gone totally broke, except for my 100%
> VA disability compensation, and the VA wouldn't allow me to live alone.
> I remember living this before. I remember living portions of my life
> over, now 72 times. I think I can get back what I had again. I've done
> it before. But, it's trickie, and it has taken as long as a thousand
> years to get my own body back.
>
>
> http://community.webtv.net/mpereira/TheSecretsofthe
> | 
06-14-2008, 08:00 PM
| | | Re: can abnormal computer work time affect schizos? On Jun 14, 12:19*pm, mpere...@webtv.net (Michael A. Pereira) wrote:
> * * * There were no less than five hundred fortunetellers, Witches,
> mediums, and Goths, who convinced me that I was the Beast 666 and would
> rule the world if I sat back and let them eliminate my guardianship.
> And, I believed them!
> * * * Janie developed into a fanatical Chistian while I was gone; and,
> after coming here I also became a Christian. I don't think I'm very good
> at it! I had a natural aptitude for the "dark side". *I made as much as
> $500 an hour as a professional psychic myself.
Strange. Beast, 666 is typically christian paranoia.
Take for example
Whether if they prefer dark or light side they are still christian.
It's all christian.
So you prefer to be Beast? What exactly that means.
I mean behavior, personality, thoughts and fillings.
All in all it seems that you have lost control over your life
and that you are not happy.
Greetings, Branimir. | 
06-14-2008, 08:00 PM
| | | Re: can abnormal computer work time affect schizos? You're right.
It's too late now. My parents were atheists. I was searching for
answers. I became a born again Christian in my old age. I could never go
back fortunetelling. I betrayed them by becoming a Christian. I'm
"blackballed" by the international Satanic Underground.
But, "Hell is divided against itself". There is a major split
between themselves: the White Right Hand Path versus the Black Left Hand
Path (which only seeks nonexistence and of which I was). I wished I was
never born by the time I was eight years old.
Janie's husband Eddie was a "whitelighter" and he was after me for
all the trouble I had caused his lodge in revenge. I had trouble with
them all my life! That's how I got tagged "schizophrenic". Kate told me
that if I married her, her people could defend me from Eddie and his
"whitelighters".
"Hell is divided against itself." It's everyone against everyone
else. They'd kill anyone as look at them. They have no morality
whatsoever, and they don't really believe in law of Karma that is
ubiquitous in their New Age Movement.
My exwife got a contract out on me, for the inheritance she would
have got back then. I didn't care. I just hoped it wouldn't hurt. It was
like waiting for the dentist. Today I wish they had done a better job.
Like, one time I was riding down Route 7 at 55 MPH and a car came
the other way even faster. A guy leaned out the back window and threw an
heavy old electric motor at my windshield. I swerved the car and the
assassin's projectile smashed the side view mirror. There were many
other attempts other ways, but I was much happier back then, even under
fire, than I am now!
That didn't bother me much at all. I still rode down Route 7 every
morining, practicing ducking my head, if they tried it again, playing my
music and laughing. "Inappropriate response"?
A veterinarian tenant who used to live here said it would have
taken my head off. Do you think I would have felt anything? It sounds
painful. My veterinarian friend killed himself after Rev. Alex Hurt
preached about "The Woman of Destruction" on Christain Radio that very
same morning. What a coincidnece. http://community.webtv.net/mpereira/TheSecretsofthe | 
06-14-2008, 08:00 PM
| | | Re: can abnormal computer work time affect schizos? Well, I haven't preferred to be Beast since I became a Christian.
But, backsliding a little, is there enough money in it to be
comfortable, to have reasonable freedom and privacy?
The theory is that the world creator, called the Demiourgos, by
the Greek Gnositcs was the most evil being. That Lucifer's rebellion was
that he didn't want to exist. And, Lucifer and his angels weren't thrown
out, they escaped.
According to the theory, the Demiourgos is the cause of all pain.
The Demiourgos has forced our existence against our wills. And,
Christian authorities always say that if we don't "toe the mark" we will
be punished for eterninty.
I haven't been able to refute this yet. I'm searching. I'm am bound by
fear and I have to try to endure this. Christianitiy is a fear religion,
and all else in it is selfdeception, hypocrisy, and crap.
A Jehova's Witness and I agreed that eternal punishment is
infinite injustice. Us who know, know that by the inevitable closed
circuitry in the incompressable fluid of timespace "What you measure out
to others will be measued out to you". I heed this. "What goes around
comes around", there is no other justice. Anything worse than this true
morality is injustice. The Christian system seems to be too bad to be
true. But, I must have absolute proof so I can get out of this
ideological cesspool. http://community.webtv.net/mpereira/TheSecretsofthe | 
06-14-2008, 08:00 PM
| | | Re: can abnormal computer work time affect schizos? On Jun 14, 6:44*pm, mpere...@webtv.net (Michael A. Pereira) wrote:
> * * * Well, I haven't preferred to be Beast since I became a Christian.
You write that 500 hundred... convinced you that you were Beast.
and you have aptitude to "dark side".
You didn;t become Christian you were always Christian,
perhaps you've changed attitude.
> But, backsliding a little, is there enough money in it to be
> comfortable, to have reasonable freedom and privacy?
I quite don;t understand. You mean money in Christianity?
> * * * The theory is that the world creator, called the Demiourgos, by
> the Greek Gnositcs was the most evil being. That Lucifer's rebellion was
> that he didn't want to exist. And, Lucifer and his angels weren't thrown
> out, they escaped.
> * * * According to the theory, the Demiourgos is the cause of all pain.
> The Demiourgos has forced our existence against our wills. And,
> Christian authorities always say that if we don't "toe the mark" we will
> be punished for eterninty.
> I haven't been able to refute this yet. I'm searching. I'm am bound by
> fear and I have to try to endure this. Christianitiy is a fear religion,
> and all else in it is selfdeception, hypocrisy, and crap.
No. Christianity as I see it is not fear religion.
It's just a matter that majority of Christians believe more in power
of Devil
then in Love of Christ. During the times Christianity becomes
corrupted
especially when it becomes state religion and then
it now represents what you think it represents.
> * * * A Jehova's Witness and I agreed that eternal punishment is
> infinite injustice.
Theology of Jehova's Witnesses are based on delusions of one man.
Delusion of being someone else, chosen one . Etc.
and of course chosen one always predicts when the World will end 
All sects start with one looney 
Nothing new in Christianity.
Us who know, know that by the inevitable closed
> circuitry in the incompressable fluid of timespace "What you measure out
> to others will be measued out to you". I heed this. "What goes around
> comes around", there is no other justice. *Anything worse than this true
> morality is injustice. The Christian system seems to be too bad to be
> true. But, I must have absolute proof so I can get out of this
> ideological cesspool.
I think that you spend too many time in useless theology,
while in fact forgetting more important things in your life.
This is how to get a way to your freedom.
Greetings, Branimir. | 
06-15-2008, 03:03 PM
| | | Re: can abnormal computer work time affect schizos? Thank you for trying to bring peace to my life. The Jehova
Witnesses, the Seventh Day Adventists, and a growing number of
Christians are now believing that the damned become nonexistent in Hell.
It is a place of disposal rather than a place of punishment.
We have already seen Hell manifested as the Black Holes in space,
where gravity has opened up the globally bent timespaces from pi values
below 3.14159265... to zero at the singularity.
There are hyperspheres of globally bent timespace right here in a
fifth dimensional direction. It's not a big jump to them. The first
hypersphere is only Planck's distance,
0.000000000000000000000000000000001 of a meter away from us, and the
next the same distance from it, etc., etc.
Everything is eventually going into one Blak Hole or another.
Timespace is expanding by "dark energy", which is identical to Murphy's
Law, which was called "Phronaesis" by the Greek Gnostics, but,
everything in galaxies and their vicinities are going into Black Holes.
This is the "wide road", certainly not the "straight and narrow".
It has been found, and expressed in "Living Systems" by James
Miller, that everything knowable is called "information", that
information is the "formation of energy". You may recognize that the
terminology here is from Gellie's Yahoo group, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alchemy61/
Energy, which is shown to be eternal, by the First Law of
Thermodynmaics ("God is light"-1John1:5) is like a sheet, and,
information, ruled by the Second Law of Thermodynamics, is like wrinkles
in that sheet. Pull the sheet out tight and the wrinkles disappear
(perish).
With my tormented mind, and I think everybody actually has a
tormented mind, and those who say they don't are lying, conscious peace
is an oxymoron. I can't conceive of having permanent hapiness in Heaven
or anywhere. I know that if I could become nonexistent I would never
suffer again. There would be no me to suffer.
Of course, my having "sold my birthrigtht for red pottage" (my
exwife), and the VA guardianship letting this rip off happen, didn't
help. I am struggling for reasonable freedom, privacy, and basic
creature comforts. I can find temporary reliefs, which are actually
instants of nonexistence, with the American civil rights Americans are
verbally guaranteed.
It is obvious that if we fail it is only fair that we be returned
to the nonexistence from which we were taken, not tormented worse for
eternity. It is obvious that eternal punishment is infinite injustice!
There's got to be something better than that.
"Pain is evil, relief is good; there is no other morality." Even
Bible thumping Christians have to admit this. They are accepting what
they think is "self denial" (interpreted wrong from the Greek) & some
suffering to avoid worse eternal suffering. It is even reasonable to
accept 4s rather than 17s, less suffering than more suffering. But, this
system seems too bad to be true. But, we can't prove it, yet. But we are
researching and searching for answers.
"Actions bring reactions that return with equal worth; there is no
other justice". This happens, its obvious mechanics, God or no God. What
we have done to others is coming back to us. Perhaps, only Christ can
save us from that, if we're real good.
That "deny self" in the original Greek New Testament,
"anaesthestho auton" is translated by the Greek dictionary to mean
"cancel self", cancel out the prime polarity, which is your self that
hurts. No self, no hurt. And you need the opposite polarities for that,
or it can't be done. "Take up your cross", the cross
esoterically represents any similar "physical gnosis" like that used by http://www.holotropic.com . Crucifixion stimulates the parasympathetic
nervous system like muscarine which wakes up the brain like LSD. Christ
profaned the "sacred mysteries" which gives us the license to profane
the "sacred mysteries", very well profaned in the posts of "lahunken" in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alchemy61/ http://community.webtv.net/mpereira/TheSecretsofthe | 
06-15-2008, 03:03 PM
| | | Re: can abnormal computer work time affect schizos? The Devil was defeated by the crucifixion and resurrection of
Christ. Satan and all his fallen angels have no power at all. All they
may do is tempt a person.
With all that's said about the Devil, with such evil karma he
would be pathetic, like in a back mental ward somewhere, homeless, or a
psychiatric wreck fleeing horrible treatments. It is no wonder that such
people may think that they are the Devil.
We had a big debate. Did Leland Gaunt, in "Needful Things" earn
evil karma? He certainly earned evil karma by scaring people, but,
elsewise, as he said, "I show people what I have to offer and let them
make up their own minds".
The devastation that resulted was caused by the choices of the
participants. It's their karma. Human beings are supposed to have "free
will". If we don't have free will we a blameless, and all that happens
is inevitable, God's fault.
A person has the free will to choose, except in a religious state
like Massachusetts, where for example, by law a guy can't choose to go
to a prostitute, for, a guy is in danger of prosecution and seizure of
his car if he does cruise for prostitutes.
Many years ago I lived in Massachusetts for a while. and thank God
I'm out of there. But, my poor cousin was born there, absconded from
prosecution for violating "laws respecting an establishment of
religion", returned many years later, and THEY don't even know he's
back.
If you don't "toe the mark" for Christianity because you fear
eternal punishment, then, you are lying to yourself. Fear is the basis
of Christianity, and all else is Ha Beth Lamed (that's like saying
"crap") as actually written in the Book of Ecclesiastes in the original
Hebrew Old Tesatament of the Bible.
Can't you see that this guy's persuit of knowledge & obsession
with theology is that which he lives for? That's all he's got! I live
for revenge against "powers and principalities", not "flesh and blood",
"perish forbid". If I don't forgive, people, I wont be forgiven, but I
don't have to forgive group spirits, "demons" in Greek. It pays to dig
out the truth. | 
06-15-2008, 03:03 PM
| | | Re: can abnormal computer work time affect schizos? On Jun 15, 1:45*pm, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:
> * * * The Devil was defeated by the crucifixion and resurrection of
> Christ. Satan and all his fallen angels have no power at all. All they
> may do is tempt a person.
Then why is till more evil then good in this world?
Satan works through us.
Only way that evil can manifest itself in this world is through
people.
For example eastern orthodox monks believe that Satan
fight us with mind control by implanting thoughts. They spend their
whole
lives fighting their own thoughts.
I believe that suicides, murders, crimes, wars and majority
of evil in this world comes because of Satan.
I believe that Satan now rules the world through people.
Fear is the basis
> of Christianity, and all else is Ha Beth Lamed (that's like saying
> "crap") as actually written in the *Book of Ecclesiastes in the original
> Hebrew Old Tesatament of the Bible.
Basis of Christianity is Love. Love defeats fear.
> * * * Can't you see that this guy's persuit of knowledge & obsession
> with theology is that which he lives for? That's all he's got! I live
> for revenge against "powers and principalities", not "flesh and blood",
> "perish forbid". If I don't forgive, people, I wont be forgiven, but I
> don't have to forgive group spirits, "demons" in Greek. It pays to dig
> out the truth.
Can you see the light?
Greetings, Branimir. | 
06-15-2008, 03:03 PM
| | | Re: can abnormal computer work time affect schizos? On Jun 15, 12:40*pm, mpere...@webtv.net (Michael A. Pereira) wrote:
> * * * Thank you for trying to bring peace to my life.
I'm trying, thank you for listening.
The Jehova
> Witnesses, the Seventh Day Adventists, and a growing number of
> Christians are now believing that the damned become nonexistent in Hell.
"Eternal punishment" or "soul sleep" 
Interesting thing is that doctrine of "soul sleep" is represented
on Belgrade theological university, while before, doctrine
of immortal soul was dominant. There is no proof for either.
> It is a place of disposal rather than a place of punishment.
You got it wrong. Doctrine of "soul sleep" teaches that
we are completely unconscious after death until resurrection.
Additional doctrine of total annihilation teaches that
sinners will never wake up eg that eternal punishment
is simply non existence.
> * * * With my tormented mind, and I think everybody actually has a
> tormented mind, and those who say they don't are lying, conscious peace
> is an oxymoron.
Of course  But there is a way to freedom and that is love
I can't conceive of having permanent hapiness in Heaven
> or anywhere.
You should seek for permanent happiness on Earth, now.
Take your life in your hand.
I know that if I could become nonexistent I would never
> suffer again. There would be no me to suffer.
Then you would be unconscious, there would be nothing to
enjoy happiness then 
It' all possible now and here.
For example I figured that money and dust of this material
world and collecting dust is main prison of us humans.
So I gived away everything I got and decided to sleep
in graveyard as that is most quiet place in the city.
That eventually lead that my relatives put me in the nuthouse,
but I am now free. I work for money because money is
necessary evil in this world, but I am not slave of material
world any more.
> * * * It is obvious that if we fail it is only fair that we be returned
> to the nonexistence from which we were taken, not tormented worse for
> eternity. It is obvious that eternal punishment is infinite injustice!
> There's got to be something better than that.
Eternal punishment is invented by state and religion that support
state in order to keep people obedient, while in fact
we are already punished
> system seems too bad to be true. But, we can't prove it, yet. But we are
> researching and searching for answers.
Answer is simple. If you free yourself from external
influences you will be cured from suffering.
Easier said then done , I know.
I needed 6 years, I practice to have only one emotion
that is love.
> * * * "Actions bring reactions that return with equal worth; there is no
> other justice". This happens, its obvious mechanics, God or no God.
Well it's universal law
Greetings, Branimir. | 
06-15-2008, 09:14 PM
| | | Re: can abnormal computer work time affect schizos? Soul sleep? There'd be no soul to sleep, or feel, or anything. The
essence of every pleasure is an instant of nonexistence. Permanent
nonexistence would be the eternal satisfaction of all desires.
But, until then, if we are not under the protective submission to
Christ, then Satan and his devils can even hurt us physically. So I had
better watch it.
The devils do everything in their power to mess the human race up.
For example, they were able to influence Hitler, and by Hitler just
using the power of speech, that God gave us all, he did all the damage
he did.
Atheists ask, if there is a God, then why is there so much evil in
the world?
The answer is, God gave mankind free will, and He will not
interfere with that free will because if He does then we wont have free
will anymore. It is God's will that we have real free will, and by
having that, too many people choose evil, and there you have it.
In my finite mind, I figure that God, who has always been
conscious, and will be conscious for eternity, would get bored by just
making atomatons. With an eternal past and an eternal future such
boredom could get quite painful. Even God doesn't want to hurt.
Personally, I am glad I am not God. I wouldn't want to be God. I'm
afraid I feel sorry for Him. I really don't want to make Him unhappy. | 
06-16-2008, 06:28 AM
| | | Re: can abnormal computer work time affect schizos? On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:19:25 -0400, Michael A. Pereira wrote:
> I made as much as
> $500 an hour as a professional psychic myself.
Whoah!!
--
For your health and therefore happiness,
and for thier health.
Ignorance does not free you
whether it be the Mystic Law,
or the Law of the Land. http://www.meat.org/index-1.asp?c=mymbagn0508 http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs....reasons&chgpre
Whatever your spiritual belief from Vodon to Atheism
from Judaism to Jainism this CANNOT BE RIGHT.
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