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Old 04-04-2007, 06:56 PM
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THE CURE FOR SCHIZOPHRENIA AND THE ENJOYMENT OF CONSCIOUSNESS

I don not recommend people to stop taking their P-meds. This Teaching
or Cure will work even if you are taking them.



This is the cure for schizophrenia. It is not of my origin. And it
should not be judged on how poorly I explain it. Please read it all.
This is a continuation of my earlier post.

THE INTRODUCTION

The human being as I see it is made of three parts, the physical, the
psychological, and the spiritual.
The psychological part consists of the past memories and an imagined
future. The physical part we know.
The spiritual part consists of ones present feelings and intuitions in
the present moment. These three parts are in some way separate yet
related to one another.

If you think I am talking about psychology or pyscho-babel you are
wrong. This teaching is not about belief. Belief is the opposite of
it.

When we are born we all start out in a state that is much more one of
oneness or inherence in all of experience. As our brains mature we
begin to lose that feeling. Most people end up in the state of
consciousness that is called normal or ordinary by the time they are
in their teens or earlier.

I describe consciousness as levels, starting with the lowest,
psychosis , the next up is schizophrenia, the next up is normal, then
come the spiritual levels. The first being the beginning level or
conversion, it has as many names as there are spiritual traditions.
Beyond that level is the mystical and beyond that is Enlightenment or
Oneness.

For some unknown reason some people end up in the spiritual state and
some end up in the schizophrenic state. Most end up in the normal
state. Maybe it is bio-chemical and a result of genetics. There may be
environmental factors such as poor nutrition during the prenatal
stage. I don't believe that it has anything to do with parenting
skills.

This state of schizophrenia can be described as a feeling of being
apart or separated from the world. There is a feeling of anxiety or
fear. It is a state of tension. There may be other symptoms. In more
extreme cases people become separated from their thoughts. Those who
are in that state only know it as their normal state. But
others ,including doctors , know it is not normal. When you are freed
from that state it becomes very clear where you had been.

It is very important to understand that the Normal state of
consciousness is not normal at all, only common. Normal consciousness
is also a state of separation from the world. Some people get tired of
it and seek to enter into a state that is more one with everything or
Reality. We call these people spiritual seekers. Some take
psychedelics, some practice austere disciplines, others practice
meditation in various forms.




THE CURE IS THE TEACHING FOUND IN THE BOOKS ,THE KNEE OF LISTENING AND
THE METHOD OF THE SIDDHAS. Below is my summary explanation of them.
You must read the actual books to truly understand what I am trying to
explain.

IF NORMAL PEOPLE CAN CHANGE THEIR CONSCIOUSNESS THEN SO CAN
SCHIZOPHRENICS.

What is consciousness? Human consciousness is a lesser intensity of
Pure Consciousness. As Alan Watts put it, "The ocean waves, the
universe peoples." In some people that consciousness has been
constricted to much and they are schizophrenic. They have become too
separated from consciousness itself.

CONSCIOUSNESS EXISTS IN THE PRESENT MOMENT

All modifications or contractions of consciousness occur in the
present moment. Your consciousness is the result of your activity in
the present moment. It is in the present moment that you create the
sense of separation to whatever degree it exists in you. It did not
happen in the past and since it is happening now it can be changed.

WHY DOES THIS SENSE OF SEPARATION EXIST?

It is written in the Upanishads that as soon as an other is noticed
there is fear. In that moment of noticing an other the Ego is born out
of fear. The ego is not love. It is at its core fear. As soon as there
is separation there is fear. "Fear is when love stops short of
infinity."-Adi Da Samraj

WHAT IS PERCEPTION?

What you consider to be your sense of perception is in fact that
avoidance of relationship (to everything). You are always avoiding
being already in relationship to consciousness.

WHY DOES THIS SENSE OF SEPARATION CONTINUE?

It continues because in every single moment of the day you meditate on
it. Everything you do and everything you think is meditation on this
separation.
It is best described in the Myth of Narcissus from Greek mythology.
Narcissus fell in love with his own image in the pond and spent his
whole life meditating on himself. That is what everyone is doing.

HOW DOES THIS SEPARATION STOP AND ONES CONSCIOUSNESS EXPAND AND THUS
CURE SCHIZOPHRENIA?

The natural state of consciousness is oneness, the unnatural state is
separation. Thus consciousness naturally always wants to return to its
prior nature of oneness. If you simply observe yourself in every
moment you will see that you are always meditating on yourself, you
will see that you are separating your self in every moment. This
applies to all people including the normal and even spiritual people.

REAL ENQUIRY

All you must do in every moment of the day is to enquire of yourself,
"Avoiding being already entirely in relationship?" There is no "I" in
this question. In its short form simple enquire of yourself, "Avoiding
relationship?" This mantra is actually the Form of Consciousness
Itself reinforcing its Own Nature. This action is called
Understanding. It is simply self observation.

THE GREATEST BOOKS ABOUT THE NATURE OF REALITY OR CONSCIOUSNESS EVER
WRITTEN

They are THE KNEE OF LISTENING and THE METHOD OF THE SIDDHAS by Adi Da
Samraj. They are the source of all I have learned. I have read many
spiritual books but there are none which so clearly explain
consciousness as ones present activity. This Teaching is about freeing
yourself from your limitations of self meditation and the separation
it causes. It is for everyone. It is not about schizophrenia which is
just a word describing a state of separation.

MY MOMENT OF FREEDOM

I read those two books in 1975 and experienced the most extraordinary
change in my consciousness. One moment I was thinking about what I had
read and reread and re -reread .
The next moment I was FREE. My mind had been released from that bond
of contraction. I fell into that state of Grace or Conversion or
Little Samadhi or Rebirth or whatever name you give it. It lasted for
two hours. Then I contracted back into that state of schizophrenia. I
read some more. The next day I fell back into that state of Grace or
Conversion again but this time it lasted 4 hours. I read some more.
The next time it lasted longer. Eventually it became my permanent
state of being.

OTHERS HAVE BEEN FREED
I have known a few others who have been freed from schizophrenia also
by this Teaching. What works for one should work for all who can
understand it.
This Teaching is not a cure all for all diseases or even all mental
illness. There is no other Teaching like it.

SEE FOR YOURSELF
If you wish to try this for yourself you MUST get the books and read
them many times. You cannot grasp this teaching from only from my
posts. Amazon.com has used ones at cheap prices at least for the Knee
of Listening. I do not get any money from anyone for doing this. I am
not a member of the Sect of Adi Da Samraj though I was a student of it
many years ago.

THE FORCE
The is a literal force generated by this Teaching. The force or energy
will intensify your feelings. This force will keep most people away
from it. In the presence of the truth one either surrenders,flees or
attacks it.

WHAT I KNOW
This is what I know. I have told you everything. Some will say it is
too simple. Others will say it is too complicated. Most will ignore
it.

Now it is up to you.

Roky



THE MEDITATION OF UNDERSTANDING


Real meditation doesn't do anything for you. It has no purpose. When a
person begins some form of seeking, he immediately turns to an
effective, remedial technique that will get him quickly to his goal.
Thus, when a man adapts to various kinds of religious and spiritual
effort, he begins almost immediately to meditate in some way. The
Christian and the devotee begin to pray and adapt to religious forms.
The spiritual seeker begins to concentrate and internalize the mind.
Others use drugs, study, critical thought, relaxation and poetry,
pleasure, etc.
But real life, the way of understanding, is not another form of
seeking. For the man of understanding, meditation is not adopted for
the sake of something else. He does not pursue understanding or
reality or any kind of experience through meditation. Real meditation
is already a radical activity. It is understanding.
In the logic of Narcissus, the separative mentality, all things are
seeking. But the man of understanding perceives the logic of reality
and lives as it. Therefore, he is not concerned about meditation His
business is understanding, not ascent,vision, transformation,
liberation. or any other goal. The way of understanding belongs to
those who recognize the fruitlessness of seeking.
I do not recommend that you meditate. There is only understanding.
Therefore, understand. And when understanding has become observation,
reflection, insight and radical cognition, then the state of
consciousness itself is meditation. When understanding has become a
radical process, and the avoidance of relationship has become an
inclusive and sufficient recognition, when you have understood that
seeking is all a function of dilemma and when you no longer are
voluntarily motivated by the physical, mental or spiritual problem,
then you are already meditating.
Meditation is simply understanding as a radical process in
consciousness. It is what understanding is when it has become
necessary and profound. There is no right motive for adopting it.
There is only the discovery that you are already doing it.
Thus, when understanding has become founded in you by observation of
your life, and you have truly realized the radical process of
avoidance on every level of your being. then you have ceased to
approach life without intelligence, simply reacting, becoming
motivated, and seeking various ends. Instead, you have begun to
approach all experience with a simplicity in consciousness, a presence
you bring to all things, which is understanding.
When you have begun to approach life with understanding, knowing the
radical truth of understanding, then you have begun to meditate. Then
understanding, the logic of reality, can be extended as itself to
conscious or real meditation.
Real meditation is not purposive. It has no effect that it seeks to
produce. It has no dilemma to solve. It has already become
understanding. And understanding is conscious knowing. Understanding
is in fact the knowledge that is consciousness, non-separation,
reality. Therefore, it is the enjoyment of consciousness. To
understand is already to meditate, to contemplate consciousness
itself. And it does this not by an act of concentration on
consciousness, or any form or center of consciousness, but by
understanding experience, the action of consciousness.
Where there is understanding in life, what is actually being known is
consciousness, unqualified reality. Thus the understanding of
experience by observation leads to the recognition of the avoidance of
relationship as a radical activity. And even where this recognition
arises it will also cease to be the fundamental object or activity of
conscious life. It will simply give way to the fundamental perception
prior to avoidance, which is reality, Unqualified relationship,
consciousness.
Thus understanding first becomes actual in the mind, and then it is
extended as enquiry. Enquiry is the approach of understanding to
experience. And enquiry is meditation. It is in the form: 'Avoiding
relationship?'
As enquiry continues as the radical activity of life, even enquiry
becomes occasional . Even in the beginning it is not repetitive, like
a mantra. That which is identified and enjoyed in consciousness
through enquiry does not need constant enquiry to reduce the
tendencies of the mind and life to prior understanding. That reality
which is the source and realization of enquiry eventually becomes the
ready object of the mind and life, and one tends to return to it
easily and naturally.
Thus, when understanding becomes radical knowledge, there is no
constant enquiry, no special meditation. Knowledge becomes
consciousness itself, which is unqualified, which is "no-seeking" in
the heart and "no-dilemma" in the mind.

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Old 04-04-2007, 09:08 PM
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roky wrote:
> THE CURE FOR SCHIZOPHRENIA AND THE ENJOYMENT OF CONSCIOUSNESS
>
> I don not recommend people to stop taking their P-meds. This Teaching
> or Cure will work even if you are taking them.


Your post reminded me of a book:
"The Paradoxes of Delusion: Wittgenstein, Schreber, and the
Schizophrenic Mind"
by Louis A. Sass

There is something that this theory has in common with it.

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Old 04-05-2007, 01:45 AM
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it's the wheat gluten, same thing that killed the pets.

wheat gluten is the protein they make from wheat, your body digests
it and the waste that results is toxic.

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Old 04-06-2007, 04:11 AM
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On 4 Apr, 12:32, "Pies de Arcilla" <dearci...@gmail.com> wrote:
> roky wrote:
> > THE CURE FOR SCHIZOPHRENIA AND THE ENJOYMENT OF CONSCIOUSNESS

>
> > I don not recommend people to stop taking their P-meds. This Teaching
> > or Cure will work even if you are taking them.

>
> Your post reminded me of a book:
> "The Paradoxes of Delusion: Wittgenstein, Schreber, and the
> Schizophrenic Mind"
> by Louis A. Sass
>
> There is something that this theory has in common with it.


I havent read the book. But I think that delusional thinking and
hallucinations may be separate from the actual disease of
schizophrenia just as depression is. Some schizophrenics do not have
those symptoms. The KNee of Listening was written in 1972. Sass book
was written in 94.



Reviewer: Harry P Holmes "pheronome designer" (mercer island, wa USA)
- See all my reviews
First, I must warn I am biased, I am third generation Wittgensteinian
logician. Nuff said on that.
This book is not for most, few like or appreciate scholarly
dissertations of this quality. If you do then this is a model on how
to write one. It is not appropriate to engage on this site with
opinions, or counter arguments, etc. as to whether what Prof. Sass
presents is right or wrong. That is up to you to read and participate
in. It is not fair to respond to a dissertation with an opinion, too
much effort was invested in the former.
The subject or premise is very interesting. I am sure it has caused
many a heated argument within the field of psychiatry. It seems to me
an invitation to many to travel down a new road further to see what
can be found. I am sure that is the Professor's main goal.
But to a philosopher, Sass' application of Wittgenstein is
appreciated. The man's life and works beg for such applications in a
wide field of study and human behaviour.
I loved the book and will probably reread it numerous times. I think
the next time through, I will substitute a society such as ours
presently, a supra-consciousness, as the schizophrenic patient, not
Schreber, and see how that fits and plays out throughout the text. I
think that has far reaching interest and consequences for us all,
perhaps. When a patient is subjected to the dreaded reality test is
there degrees of insanity, or is it just pass/fail? What would a test
be like for a society? Perhaps these are matters for readers to find
on their own on the road Dr. Sass openned for us.

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Old 04-09-2007, 07:20 AM
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If higher cosciousness is percentage of the brain used, then
schizophrenia is the highest consciousness. Also, schizophrenia is equal
and equivalent with other causes of the same psychosis, an over
awakening of the brain.
Normaly, inhibitory neurons, whose neurotransmitters are
seratonin, keep brain use down to 10%. The brain may be further awakened
by blocking seratonin. LSD, psilocybin, dimethyltryptamine, etc., block
seratonin. The brain may be further awakened by simulating the
muscarinic neurons of the parasympathetic nervous system. Then the
stimulation spreads to the muscarinic neurons of the brain. By
muscarinic we don't mean that muscarine is the neurotransmittter of
these neurons. Acetylcholine is the neurotransmitter of these neurons.
These neurons are especially sensitive to the drug muscarine. Muscarine
does the same thing as the stimularion of the upper parasympathetic
nerovus system, as is done by holotropic pranayama (see
http://www.holotropic.com ). Muscarine was a sacrament in Hindu temples
and it was called "soma". Also, parasympathetic nerves can get injured
and develop scar tissue which irritates and stimulates them. This
condition was called Shamans' Disease by the old Soviet Union. Here,
those caught with Shamans' Disease were tagged schizophrenic. Why? The
old Soviet Union was at least anti-superstitious. Everywhere else has
been ruled by superstitious secret societies which define "witchcraft"
as deliberately exciting muscarinic nerves for power.
So, schizophrenia, LSD intoxication, Shamans' Disease, and organic
psychosis from a stimulated parasympathetic nervous system, real
witchcraft, are all the same thing.
The dopamine blocking antipsychotic drugs do absolutely no good
what so ever and only cause misery. If they seem to work a little for
some people it is due to the fact that they lop over and block
acetylcholine a little; just enough to turn an athelete into a weakling,
for, acetylcholine is also the neurotransmitter for the muscles.
Since glutamate itself is capable of waking up more than 80% of
the brain, glutamate blockers are the best medicine.

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Old 04-09-2007, 07:17 PM
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On Apr 8, 5:55 pm, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Lahunkun) wrote:
> If higher cosciousness is percentage of the brain used, then
> schizophrenia is the highest consciousness.
> So, schizophrenia, LSD intoxication, Shamans' Disease, and organic
> psychosis from a stimulated parasympathetic nervous system, real
> witchcraft, are all the same thing.



In my opinion schizophrenia is a state of consciousness in which there
is more of a feeling of separation than the ordinary. The spiritual
person or one who has been reborn feels more of a sense of oneness
with everything. It is not simply a matter of the percentage of the
brain being used.

LSD may cause auditory and visual hallucinations but at the same time
consciousness may remain in the ordinary state or even enter into the
spiritual higher state. It does not necessarily become schizophrenic.

Not all schizophrenics have hallucinations or delusions.
Hallucinations may just be a symptom of some schizophrenics and not
the disease itself. They may be the result of an overstimulated brain.
Taking psychotropic medicines may eliminate them but it does not cure
the underlying problem with consciousness. That is cured by reading
The Knee of Listening and The Method of the Siddhas. Some of which is
available at:
http://www.beezone.com/Articles.html

Roky

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Old 04-10-2007, 06:31 PM
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What is called "higher" is often "lower" into the Underworld,
Shoel, Hades, also known as Hell. The Sumerian and Babalonian Zigurats
had levels that represented the "heavenly spheres" that were supposedly
up; but, they actually represented various levels of depth into the
Underworld. The Hebrew Sephiroth are the same way. What is being
attained here are more and more globally bent timespaces that could also
be attained by speeds toward the speed of light, strong gravity, high
electrical currents, but, we go there by high entropy production rates,
EPR's. These are all analogues in various branches of engineering, but,
the thermodynamic EPR is the easiest; and, there is "informational"
entropy, and schizophrenia is certainly it.
Voices and "delusions" are just the beginning. There are three
levels called "perinatal matrices I, II, and III by the psychiatrist Dr.
Stanislav Grof. http://www.holotropic.com and perinatal matrix III is
Hell itself. In perinatal matrix II the mind gets very powerful to
manifest its visualizations; but, there comes an extent of power which
usually becomes just too much to control.
We often wish we were someone else, especially with our stigma and
the ways we are treated. A little beyond the Ring of Fire, the entrance
into perinatal matrix III, one thought of wishing to be someone else
causes you to body switch. It can take a thousand years duration going
backward and forward and backward in time to get your own body back,
which is usually back in time to a place and time where you had much
entropy, like in a locked ward. And, all that time body switching, there
is no sleep, a thousand years without sleep, And, you suffer all the
torments of the bodies you inhabit. When they sleep or die, instantly,
you are in another body. No sleep for you there.The Greek for "eternal
damnation" is "aionios martaematos" which literally means an "aeon of
failure". Aeons usually last a thousand years. I have done this many
times, and I can have my friends in Alchemy 61 attest to you that they
have done this too. We would like to master this mind power, and the
Underworld, but salvation by Christ would be the best.

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Old 04-10-2007, 06:31 PM
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That's what happened to me. It's been 11,000 years so far. Do
electric shock treatments cause this?

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Old 04-10-2007, 06:31 PM
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That is happening to me. It's been a little over 36,000 years now.
The deja vu is wicked! It now seems that Shopenhaur was right. He said
that we live our lives over and over for eternity. That's not good when
you have a long painful life like mine, with that 1000 years body
switching from Valley Forge Army hospital in the Sixties. A psychiatric
social worker in the VA said to me, "What's the matter with you, They
only gave you LSD." She was doing LSD. But, she was only taking
perinatal matrix I doses, or at most, a little perinatal matrix II dose.
I was getting heavy perinatal matrix III doses, and I don't want to go
back there again. I either have to conform to Christ or master the
Underworld, which ever is easiest.


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