The Dark Lie of Psychiatry

I was searching for videos about R.D. Laing today after Damo mentioned
something on OBM...

I found this quite shocking (part 1 of 4):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McPnMQ31W_k


2 of 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGryxENuLLI


3 of 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41lgb96t0Vg

4 of 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHMs-M3IBHc


Some of the comments on that page I also found revealing. I feel angry
about this.

I used to take tests in the hospital, and the people giving me the tests
would get frustrated, because I said it was neither yes or no, so I
refused to answer, because the question was ambiguous, and thus any
answer would be a lie. They made me answer yes or no, because the
computer didn't have enough information to give a proper answer.

I've been so trusting over the years. Perhaps too trusting of the
industry.

They are trying to fix *everyone* with pills, and I question the
judgement of that. I live in Utah, where the consumption of
antidepressants is quite high. This concerns me, because I don't think
they should have given me a pill in hindsight, and I said that years
ago. I've often wondered how that has affected my developing mind.

Depression is a powerful motivator, and it has many causes. It's a
defense mechanism, a reaction to a bad physical environment, or diet, or
poisoning...

All that said, I wonder why my mom says I do so much better on pills,
and I wonder why some of my friends seem to as well.

About 2 years ago after my 1st ex-gf dumped me, I went off of my pills
for about a week, without realizing it. My mom and stepdad were on
vacation and I was alone. I did some of my best mental work (according
to a well functioning "non-ill" friend), but I felt like dying. I was
suicidal, but I never acted on it. Since then I've learned that others
have had similar reactions to losing their pills, after moving to a new
place, and being unable to meet with a pdoc.

Get to the SOURCE. Find the ROOT. The pills fix the problems at the
wrong end. We need some better help. I'm sick of my friends wanting to
die, and cut themselves, and all of that horrible stuff.

We control our minds. We control our chemicals in our brains. Our
thoughts direct and shape our minds.

Note: I don't encourage you to go off of meds, but it's time that we
question and encourage the industry to improve. Not through defiance,
but unending questions that drive them to improve, and stop being
suckups for the drug industry. We need better and stronger logic than
they have. We need to be a thorn in their side saying: find the root
and pull.


George

On Feb 8, 4:31 pm, George Peter Staplin
<georgepsSPAMME...@xmission.com> wrote:

> We control our minds. We control our chemicals in our brains. Our
> thoughts direct and shape our minds.

Is this certain? I think that is the question. Can we control the
chemicals in our brains through means other than drugs?

It would be great if everyone could, but until the practice is really
possible for the sufferers, does some pharmacological help to these
people in pain cause more harm than help? I think contemporary,
traditional psychiatry/western medicine causes more help than harm if
used correctly.

Gelly wrote:
> On Feb 8, 4:31 pm, George Peter Staplin
><georgepsSPAMME...@xmission.com> wrote:
>
>> We control our minds. We control our chemicals in our brains. Our
>> thoughts direct and shape our minds.
>
> Is this certain? I think that is the question. Can we control the
> chemicals in our brains through means other than drugs?
>
> It would be great if everyone could, but until the practice is really
> possible for the sufferers, does some pharmacological help to these
> people in pain cause more harm than help? I think contemporary,
> traditional psychiatry/western medicine causes more help than harm if
> used correctly.


You controlled the chemical reaction and electrical reaction that
occured in your mind to produce your message. It's really, rather
amazing.

To think that a tiny pill can make us feel better, make us go crazy, or
keep us sane is rather amazing. The pills are designed to inhibit
certain reactions, because those reactions are deemed damaging or a
potential cause.

This may be a bad analogy, but I'm fresh out :-

If you had a noisy neighbor, would you rather fix the problem at the
source, or by stuffing your walls with insulation? Which do you think
is more likely to result in a happier long term well being?

We need to understand why the mind is producing too much, or too little
of something. Extreme situations that a person goes through, may demand
extreme reactions from the mind and body, for survival.


George

On Feb 9, 1:35 am, George Peter Staplin
<georgepsSPAMME...@xmission.com> wrote:
> Gelly wrote:
> > On Feb 8, 4:31 pm, George Peter Staplin
> ><georgepsSPAMME...@xmission.com> wrote:

> You controlled the chemical reaction and electrical reaction that
> occured in your mind to produce your message.

I did?

Hey those vids were fucking cool.

I've recently gone off seroquel and am only taking effexor now, but am
goind in and out of suicidal ideation. My personal undulation, like a
sine wave, has fucking huge troughs. After all my talk of not
commiting suicide, I booked myself into a highrise hotel for this
Monday in order to jump off the balcony.

But I'm not going. I'm going to go for a bus ride to a town called
Nimbin and get some mary jane instead. For me, marijuana is
medication. If I don't have that, I drink, which is worse. So fuck it,
I'm off the weed wagon.

People do try to 'normalise' each other.

But really, people have to find the right way for themselves it seems.

Divided we stand, united we fall.

We are not fucking machines.

Sometimes a low dose of neuroleptic is better than going without it
completely.

disclaimer: see a doctor

Sorry to see you are suicidal again.

I have been curious about seroquel, because I read on here that it may have
less tendency to cause weight gain. In about 2001 I asked a new p-doc for
seroquel, but he prescribed risperdal....


"Lix Tetrax" <scopethelobe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:37382fee-829e-4ac6-8c30-f563dca29e55@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> Hey those vids were fucking cool.
>
> I've recently gone off seroquel and am only taking effexor now, but am
> goind in and out of suicidal ideation. My personal undulation, like a
> sine wave, has fucking huge troughs. After all my talk of not
> commiting suicide, I booked myself into a highrise hotel for this
> Monday in order to jump off the balcony.
>
> But I'm not going. I'm going to go for a bus ride to a town called
> Nimbin and get some mary jane instead. For me, marijuana is
> medication. If I don't have that, I drink, which is worse. So fuck it,
> I'm off the weed wagon.
>
> People do try to 'normalise' each other.
>
> But really, people have to find the right way for themselves it seems.
>
> Divided we stand, united we fall.
>
> We are not fucking machines.

Lix Tetrax wrote:
>
> Hey those vids were fucking cool.
>
> I've recently gone off seroquel and am only taking effexor now, but am
> goind in and out of suicidal ideation. My personal undulation, like a
> sine wave, has fucking huge troughs. After all my talk of not
> commiting suicide, I booked myself into a highrise hotel for this
> Monday in order to jump off the balcony.
>
> But I'm not going. I'm going to go for a bus ride to a town called
> Nimbin and get some mary jane instead. For me, marijuana is
> medication. If I don't have that, I drink, which is worse. So fuck it,
> I'm off the weed wagon.
>
> People do try to 'normalise' each other.
>
> But really, people have to find the right way for themselves it seems.
>
> Divided we stand, united we fall.
>
> We are not fucking machines.

Nod.

I'm concerned about you wanting to suicide, and the marijuana. If you
ever want to talk, feel free to email again. It may take me half a day
or so to respond, but I won't ignore you.


Take care Lix,

George