Doing a genetic study

It's only a 2 day study - so no sweat.
I was told who was doing the study...some org out of NY.
They're trying to find a link between how much zyprexa say someone
with Irish descent has to take vs someone with German descent.
No meds, just ???? and blood drawn.
I hate studies, but I'm strapped for $.
I wonder what the rate is for plasma these days.

On Jul 18, 1:51 pm, Erik the Red <spock_smo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> It's only a 2 day study - so no sweat.
> I was told who was doing the study...some org out of NY.
> They're trying to find a link between how much zyprexa say someone
> with Irish descent has to take vs someone with German descent.
> No meds, just ???? and blood drawn.
> I hate studies, but I'm strapped for $.
> I wonder what the rate is for plasma these days.

how do you find out about these studies? can someone on meds do these
studies , or it depends? how often do you go to these tests, and how
well are you paid?

Some are on tv - big psychiatric groups have divisions that handle
studies. If your pdoc is in a small office or a clinic there are also
places that specialize in ONLY studies. Hell you can get guinea pig
yourself all you want in those places.
If you're in a bind, getting into a study can mean free pdoc visits
and meds.
In most every case, jumping through all the hoops isn't worth the $.
If you look at it med wise though: say you were getting a month free
of zyprexa ($800 worth of meds w/o ins) - to get weighed in and answer
a few ??? perhaps that wouldn't be so bad.

I wouldn't suggest getting in a study with a med that hasn't already
been FDA approved.

Good four leaf clover

I already see QN in the background shaking his head.

The successful genetic study showed that Zyprexa and all the other
dopamine blockers are absolutely no good.
It was found that the gene called DISC1 causes the brain to
develope too many axons and dendrites between the neruons of the brain.
This awakens the brain far more than the "normal" 10%.
Dopamine doesn't contribute to this overawareness. Dopamine
blockers do nothing but harm, causing unbearable torment, and the
permanent misery of tardive diskinesia.
All psychoses are caused by too much of the brain being awake. LSD
causes this by blocking seratonin, the neurotranmitter of the inhibitory
neurons. Muscarine, and physical muscarinic nervous system (the chakras)
stiulatio cause it by overriding the inhibitory neurons.
This experimentation to see how Irishmen and Spaniards react to
Zyprexa is a cruel, "politically incorrect", farse.
This knowledge of the true nature of schizophrenia is being
suppressed by the dopamine blocker industry, and dishonest magazines
like Discover Magazine, are covering up this discovery with lies.
Again, future students, and the public are going to be amazed that
these atrocities existed right here in America.

"Erik the Red" <spock_smokes@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f40f15ef-40fc-4db2-a77d-4aaca0210944@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>I already see QN in the background shaking his head.

Oh, my head, my head-

Questions and a blood draw sounds harmless. Sometimes the purpose of a test
is different from what they tell candidates. For example: It might be a
certain drug company trying to disprove that their drug induces weight gain.

IMHO the schizophrenias are not a genetically caused disease.

When the black plague raged through Europe there was a percentage of the
population that was genetically stronger than those who died from the black
plague. To say that the victims of the black plague who died were
genetically defective would be improper.

In the same sense, I suspect that in many of the victims of SZ, there is a
genetic vulnerability to an enviromentally caused disease.

There are a significant number of identical twins where one twin gets SZ and
the other does not. However, if one twin gets it, the statistical risk for
the other twin of getting SZ is very high.

The examples of gentically identical twins where only one gets the disease
proves that schizophrenia is not a genetic disease, as such.

There is only a genetcally related change in the *probability* of getting
the disease.

There is also an increased probability for schizophrenia if the person's
childbirth was difficult.

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:00:11 -0700, in alt.support.schizophrenia "Quiet
Neighbor" <private@spamless.net> wrote:

>There are a significant number of identical twins where one twin gets SZ and
>the other does not. However, if one twin gets it, the statistical risk for
>the other twin of getting SZ is very high.


Actually some studies say that the concordance rate is only 2%.

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:31:00 -0400, in alt.support.schizophrenia
gellie618@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:

> The successful genetic study showed that Zyprexa and all the other
>dopamine blockers are absolutely no good.
> It was found that the gene called DISC1 causes the brain to
>develope too many axons and dendrites between the neruons of the brain.
>This awakens the brain far more than the "normal" 10%.
> Dopamine doesn't contribute to this overawareness. Dopamine
>blockers do nothing but harm, causing unbearable torment, and the
>permanent misery of tardive diskinesia.
> All psychoses are caused by too much of the brain being awake. LSD
>causes this by blocking seratonin, the neurotranmitter of the inhibitory
>neurons. Muscarine, and physical muscarinic nervous system (the chakras)
>stiulatio cause it by overriding the inhibitory neurons.
> This experimentation to see how Irishmen and Spaniards react to
>Zyprexa is a cruel, "politically incorrect", farse.
> This knowledge of the true nature of schizophrenia is being
>suppressed by the dopamine blocker industry, and dishonest magazines
>like Discover Magazine, are covering up this discovery with lies.
> Again, future students, and the public are going to be amazed that
>these atrocities existed right here in America.


I like you.

On Jul 18, 6:31 am, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:
> The successful genetic study showed that Zyprexa and all the other
> dopamine blockers are absolutely no good.
> It was found that the gene called DISC1 causes the brain to
> develope too many axons and dendrites between the neruons of the brain.
> This awakens the brain far more than the "normal" 10%.
> Dopamine doesn't contribute to this overawareness. Dopamine
> blockers do nothing but harm, causing unbearable torment, and the
> permanent misery of tardive diskinesia.
> All psychoses are caused by too much of the brain being awake.

I'm not sure drugs have made me less crazy, but they seem to have made
me care less about crazy ideas, and more able to do useful things.

I think that doctors don't really understand what the drugs do, and
that they're mostly crude variations on tranquilizers, but that
doesn't mean they're useless.

I am sure that blocking dopamine is not the cure for schizophrenia,
but I'm also sure that that's not exactly what the existing drugs do.

Of course they understand they just do not admit athat all they want is to
sedate us to make us less troublesome



On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:23:29 -0700 (PDT), in alt.support.schizophrenia Pies de
Arcilla <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Jul 18, 6:31 am, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:
>> The successful genetic study showed that Zyprexa and all the other
>> dopamine blockers are absolutely no good.
>> It was found that the gene called DISC1 causes the brain to
>> develope too many axons and dendrites between the neruons of the brain.
>> This awakens the brain far more than the "normal" 10%.
>> Dopamine doesn't contribute to this overawareness. Dopamine
>> blockers do nothing but harm, causing unbearable torment, and the
>> permanent misery of tardive diskinesia.
>> All psychoses are caused by too much of the brain being awake.
>
>I'm not sure drugs have made me less crazy, but they seem to have made
>me care less about crazy ideas, and more able to do useful things.
>
>I think that doctors don't really understand what the drugs do, and
>that they're mostly crude variations on tranquilizers, but that
>doesn't mean they're useless.
>
>I am sure that blocking dopamine is not the cure for schizophrenia,
>but I'm also sure that that's not exactly what the existing drugs do.