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Summary and Conclusions
GABA appears to play a role in the pathogenesis of several
neuropsychiatric disorders. Many of the traditional agents used to treat
psychiatric disorders are known to act, at least in part, by enhancing
GABA activity, while some of the newer agents may exert their
therapeutic effects exclusively via GABAergic actions. Clinical
experience with the newer agents, tiagabine and gabapentin, are
preliminary but promising. Controlled studies of these agents are in the
planning stages and will be useful in clarifying their potential
clinical utility across a range of psychiatric disorders.
The cliché "If you find one thing wrong in the brain, you'll find more
than one" clearly applies to psychiatric disorders. Most individuals
with psychiatric disorders suffer from one or more additional disorders
at some point, and it is not surprising that many patients require
multiple-drug therapy to control their symptoms. Unfortunately, many
individuals with comorbid psychiatric disorders fail to respond
optimally to treatment. It is likely that specific GABA-enhancing agents
will play important roles as treatment for patients with anxiety
disorders, with or without comorbidity, and as adjunctive therapy in
patients with more complicated neuropsychiatric disorders.

Maybe I could take GABA instead of geodon. I am tired of having no
motivation and sleeping 12 hours a day.

penguin

Can you get GABA at a health food or vitamin store? I don't want to
order it online.

penguin

GABA might not go to the right place orally.

For the first time in about 10 years I have slepted.....
Slept.
I have slepted.
Sleeped?
I sleeped?

Eight hours last light.
The two nights before this were at least seven hours.
For about ten years I have been sleepig on four or five hours, sometimes
I can make six hours of sleep.
I find that I really enjoy sleeping seven, eight hours a night.

GABA has helped me immensely with my motivation too.

I bought a bottle of it at GNC on tuesday.

I checked out Shoprite's suppliment section, no luck, and CVS Pharmacy's
big supplient section?? No, nope, no sir-ee, din't have no GABA,
complexed or not.
Then, in relief, I found GABA, not complexed, at GNC.

I started with GABA Complex.
Couple weeks ago.
And when I saw I only had a few weeks worth of GABA left I suddenly
became worried.
"Suppose I can't get anymore of this stuff??!!!"
That would be awful.

I discovered I had taken a real liking to it.

See...somebody gave me this first bottle.
So I didn't know anything about it.

I bought the GABA at GNC but they don't have GABA Complex. They just
have plain ol' every day GABA.

So I was still rather upset at the prospect that I only had another two
weeks left of the GABA Complex.
WHAT was I going to do if I ran out of GABA Complex!!!!!

So I bought the GABA (not the complex version) with the hope it would
produce the same results.
My negative symptoms
have squished and
strangulated and
pulverized,
decapacitated,
vaporized,
disintergrated,
Those results.

The nice man in the store told me he takes his before bed.
So.......
Since it has fluffed my sails with a nice spring zephyer my apartment
has NEVER..
ahem....never ever ever.....
been so clean and orderly.

You can call me "Zip City" if you like?

"Take it before bed" the nice man said?
So I took it before bed and I found out hat it feels like to sleep for
seven, eight hours a night.
I remember now. It used to always be like this.
Sleeping...gosh...
I missed it.
I'm really happy about sleeping after all these years.
I like sleeping.

Eight hours sleep is an entirely different experiance then gettng only
four or five.

Now that the fear and trepidation of being without GABA has been
relieved , it is with joy in my heart, and a song on my lips, I face
another day of organizing and refining my apartment.

I think I notice a difference between the GABA complex and the plain
GABA.
The complex mght be a little bit more fun.

I'm eating the plain GABA presently and find it acceptable.

I mean...I won't start screaming or throwing myself in front of a
freight train if I should run out of GABA Complex because I DID find a
source of GABA in time.
Phew....
I was scared there for a while.

Plus, Puritan's Pride GABA Complex is coming this way too.

I do NOT want to run out of this stuff.

Its great for anxiety too.

Its so easy to get things done......
and to sleep....

Puritan Pride, Puritan's Pride.....you can get it onine. GABA Complex.
Stil testing, not sure of the difference yet between compxed GABA and
plain GABA.
You could also try the GNC GABA...so far it seems to work similarly.
15/16 bucks for a jarful.

I just had a third nights sleep of about eight hours.
This is incredible.......

The Sprained Brain Kid

I suggest going easy at first.
It takes time to work.
Four hours at first.
Now it starts to work in about a hour and a half.

Keep it under 500 miligrams at first.

Fish oil is supposed to do good things. As well as alot of other
supplements. I wonder what a pdoc would say?

I forgot to ask kiddo, does it help with voices?

penguin

My best voice reducers have always been anti-anxity plls.
I flipped out the first timeI saw that.
I had eaten most of the brain candy and I still had "voices".
Then somebody gave me a xanex and it was excellent for voices.

Gaba had a significant anti-anxiety effect.
At least for me it has, and the web sites say the same thing,

Hi Pengh.

These last few nights I've had the best steep I've had in years.

A guy at GNC told me he took his before bed.
So I tried it.

You can either get more things done and get involved with things, or you
go to sleep real good too.
At least this is the way I'm seeing a very recently discovered by me
suppliment.

I haven' been taking it long.

Cory has been taking it for much longer.
Ask him.

Currently I'm doing fish oil and Ginko biloba and GABA.

I ordered some gaba over the i-net, since you talked about it here, and the
first impression i had was that it is a heavy tranquilizer/downer, but when
you get used to it, it´s quite nice, but it´s still a downer.

Rob

Hi kiddo

glad to hear that you're sleeping great.

penguin

GABA is the natural block for glutamate. Glutamate is capable of
awakening over 75% of the brain. Only 10% is considered normal. Above
10%, ESP, including clairaudience, hearing voices, begins. Excess
glutamate causes hallucinations.
Those drugs which aid GABA transport, like Neurontin, gabapentin;
and, block glutamate directly, like Campral, acamprosate calcium, are
the only drugs worthy to be called antipsychotics.
Dopamine blockers are not antipsychotic; they also cause
hallucinations. But then, the psychiatric industry needs victims, it
needs to keep its victims sick.

Quote:
L-Tyrosine is a non-essential amino acid and plays an important role in
the production of the neurotransmitters dopamine and norepinephrine as
well as a precursor for adrenaline.

This concerns the GABA Complex pills
(Quote)
Living in today's fast paced world means dealing with
high stress. It also requires quick thinking. GABA
Complex is made of some of the best ingredients for
nervous system and brain health. There is Gamma-
Aminobutyric Acid (GABA), which functions as a neurotransmitter
in the central nervous system, Inositol,
an essential component of cell membranes that plays
an important role in cell growth and function, and
Niacin, a B-Vitamin that promotes nervous system
health and energy metabolism. Together, these
ingredients help you cope with the demands of the
modern world by supporting the health of your nervous
system and brain.

Instant psychic?
More Quote:

Glutamine has recently been the focus of much scientific interest. A
growing body of evidence suggests that during certain stressful times,
the body may require more glutamine than it can produce. Under these
circumstances glutamine may be considered a \"conditionally essential\"
amino acid. Glutamine is involved in maintaining a positive nitrogen
balance (an anabolic state) and also aids rapidly growing cells (immune
system lymphocytes and intestinal cell enterocytes). In addition,
glutamine is one regulator of acid-base balance and a nitrogen
transporter.*


NOW® L-Glutamine Powder is 100% pure, free-form, non-essential, amino
acid and is the highest grade available. The entire contents are
equivalent to 2000 capsules of 500 mg each.

There might be a difference between the GABA Complex and pure GABA.
Hi Rob.

Not sure.
For emergency back-up and unable to locate GABA complex at that time I
purchased the pure gaba from GNC.

I took the GNC product to see if it worked the same.
It might be a little bit different without the niacin and inositol
present.

I'm going slow with this. I want to know exactly what effects what.
I ain't no psyche doc.
All I'm willing to say at present is there does appear to be a
difference which makes me suspect its the inositol.

Also the comple only carries 200 mg of GABA while GNC has 750 mg to a
pill.

I know this I think.....
the one GABA Complex, 200 mg gaba, niacin and inositol which I took this
morning after three days of the GNC product seems to have a different
effect.
It seems to have a body comfort thing which I like.....

Both seem to effect my negatve symptoms.
But the complex brings a nicer vibration with it.
I'm not sure.......

I've only been dealing with this newest addition to my bag of symptom
management tricks for a couple weeks.

I have some GABA complex coming in the mail so....

When I saw what this stuff seemingly can do I tried to find places where
I could get it because I knew I don't want to be without it.

Someone gave me the GABA Complex Jar.

Anyway....those worried moments about running out and never being able
to locate it again are past.
I don't have to be without it.

The Sprained Brain Kid

This is the first time I ever had a suppliment effect me immediately,
within two to four hours.
I'm used to waiting days.
Fish oil can take a couple weeks.
Gingko too.

Just because Gingko Biloba is a Herb and it increases blood flow to the
brain, thereby providing more oxygen, it takes about a week to ten days
for those brain cells to use it and become more fully oxygenated.

Some folks report instantaneous effects with Ginko Biloba and the Fish
oil too but, but..maybe thats the placebo effect....
Maybe some folks are different.

I love them omega-3s in fish oil.

But the GABA Complex with Inositol and Niacin is a same day event.
And the large dose of GABA from GNC with no niacin and inositol....might
not feel the same...but its immediate, maybe three hours.

Its my first time dealing with amino acids.
No....I tried typtophane once.
But I didn't notice any changes.

Wherz Cory? He's been doing GABA for a long time.

The sprained Brain Kid

It might be the niacin which extra helps you, because it is supposed to help
with sz synptoms.

"Deep Thoughts" <brainsprained@webtv.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:7314-472CB255-676@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net...
> This is the first time I ever had a suppliment effect me immediately,
> within two to four hours.
> I'm used to waiting days.
> Fish oil can take a couple weeks.
> Gingko too.
>
> Just because Gingko Biloba is a Herb and it increases blood flow to the
> brain, thereby providing more oxygen, it takes about a week to ten days
> for those brain cells to use it and become more fully oxygenated.

I also tried Ginko it gave me an immediat rush to the head wich i didn´t
experience later any more.

>
> Some folks report instantaneous effects with Ginko Biloba and the Fish
> oil too but, but..maybe thats the placebo effect....
> Maybe some folks are different.
>

On fishoil i had an acid like rush on the first pill which i didn´t expect
therefore it´s probably no placebo effect.

> I love them omega-3s in fish oil.
>
> But the GABA Complex with Inositol and Niacin is a same day event.
> And the large dose of GABA from GNC with no niacin and inositol....might
> not feel the same...but its immediate, maybe three hours.
>
> Its my first time dealing with amino acids.
> No....I tried typtophane once.
> But I didn't notice any changes.
>
> Wherz Cory? He's been doing GABA for a long time.
>
> The sprained Brain Kid
>

Hey, I'm still here.
I'm glad you like the GABA. It's very nice. If you liked the
supplements, I highly suggest Picamilon for during the day. The
benefits are similar to GABA but it's not as tiring. The GABA complex
that you describe is probably a combination of GABA and B Vitamins. B
Vitamins are said to help relieve stress and give you energy. The
Complex might be better in the morning, and the regular GABA would be
better in the evening.

If you take it everyday for an extended period of time, you will form
a tolerance to it. They you'll have to take extremely high amounts of
it to feel anything at all. If you can, take it in low dosages or take
it every other day.

You could also take L-Theanine as something to help you relax.

Best of luck to ya!

~Cory

Today GABA is in Gerovital. Under those conditions it is useless.
GABA can't pass the blood-brain barrier. Gerovital descended from Dr.
Anna Aslan's "Aslan Vital". The active ingredient in Aslan Vital was
procaine. Procaine is a MAO inhibitor like cocaine. It is no wonder that
those who took it felt "younger".
But, Dr. Anna Aslan's Geriatric Cure Centers in Romania used some
seriously successful techniques. As it is quoted, "Bending timespace
globally, allowing the body to be flexable and tenuous so it can snap
back its original healthy template, curing disease and even renewing
youth. Extrapolating upon these findings..."
One only need watch "Ven Helsing" to see how "flexable" the body
can be. My cousin and I went to seminars in the Aslan Geriatric Cure
Center in Tushnad, Romania (Transylvania). It's an ancient tradition
there. Is that why the lion in "The Chronicles of Narnia" was named
Aslan?
We have posted all these secrets in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alchemy61/

Quotsies again, quotsies: : :

Addicts, including those addicted to Alcohol, Drugs, Tobacco, Caffeine,
Food, Gambling, Shopping, Sex, even the Internet all have one thing in
common; not enough of the inhibitory neurotransmitter GABA is available
to prevent over stimulation.
We feel good when neurons in the reward pathway of the brain release a
neurotransmitter called dopamine. Dopamine provides a jolt of pleasure
and normally excess dopamine is checked by GABA before becoming over
activated. Studies indicate that people with addictive behavior do not
produce enough GABA to suppress over stimulated neurons that are
responsible for addictive cravings.

Hi Cory.
L-Theanine?
Its on my shopping list.

I'm pretty sure the GABA Complex from Puritan's Pride containing Niacin
and Inositol is better then plain old every day pure GABA.
Until more comes in the mail I will take the Complex in the day and the
pure GABA in the evening.

I can easily believe the effects become "invisible" after a while.
This is one reason I do Fish Oil sporadically. If you have an Omega-3
deficit , meaning not enough building blocks for the physical brain, the
effects can be profound.
But once the deficiency as been relieved then the thrill is also gone.
So I forget to keep up with my maintaince doses of fish oil.
The brain is made of omega-3 fatty acids and the american diet is
deficient in Omega-3s.

I was considering that too Cory, that things would appear to be "normal"
after a while of living with this amino acid GABA.
Then I wouldn't even "see" it anymore.

I'll also be going after some L-Theanine.
Gaba certainly rang my bell, I have to see what L-Theanine does.

Thank you, Cory, for the advice.

The Sprained Brain Kid

The Theanine won't have as big of an impact as the GABA. The GABA is a
pretty intense drug for me. I take maybe 300 mg at a time and have
never really gone over 500 mg, even though the pills I have are 750 mg
pills. I take 100 mg of Theanine three times a day and find that it
helps calms my thoughts down a little bit. I also drink decaf green
tea and find that it helps me relax a little.

All of these drugs only help a little bit. But if they each help a
little, and you take like 5 different ones, then they all work
together to make a noticeable difference over time. I don't expect to
cure any disease or chemical imbalance, I only hope to prevent things
from getting worse and to keep myself functional for as long as
possible.

To be honest, one of the most important things that has helped me the
most is diet and exercise. I work out for 40 minutes 3 or 4 times a
week. I burn anywhere from 500 to 700 calories on an elliptical or
treadmill. I also eat tons of veggies including broccoli and spinach
salads, I eat a decent amount of grilled fish, and I avoid fatty foods
and too much sugar. By doing this I'm lowering the amount of stress on
my body metabolically and chemically, and I'm helping promote
neurogenesis in my brain. I completely avoid alcohol and marijuana.
And I try to put myself in as many social environments as I can so
that I am comfortable with being around people. These pills help me a
lot, but working out and eating right is just as important, if not
more important for some people.