GABA + Glycine + Tianeptine

I've been taking a combination of GABA, Glycine, and tianpetine and
find that they balance each other out rather well. Has anyone else
tried tianeptine or a combination of these drugs?

-Cory

<coryschulz@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I've been taking a combination of GABA, Glycine, and tianpetine and
> find that they balance each other out rather well. Has anyone else
> tried tianeptine or a combination of these drugs?
>
> -Cory

Initially, GABA seemed to be sedating, but over time it seemed to have no
effect. I sometimes use GABA at bedtime.

Many years ago, when I was experimenting with each of the amino acids to see
if there was any effect, L-Glycine produced increased positive symptoms for
me.

L-Glutamine improved memory.

I know nothing about tianpetine.

I take NAC every day. I also take some Glutathione, which is what the NAC
is supposed to be a precursor for.

I read in a book by a neurologist that the use of some neuroleptics
increases the brain's need for COQ-10. The brain produces COQ-10 naturally,
but some drugs cause it to be depleted.

<coryschulz@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I've been taking a combination of GABA, Glycine, and tianpetine and
> find that they balance each other out rather well. Has anyone else
> tried tianeptine or a combination of these drugs?
>
> -Cory

Tianeptine is an interesting medication, not available in the US. I wish it
were, since it has a unique mechanism (serotonin reuptake acceleration).

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Tianeptine can be purchased from overseas pharmacies online. That's
where I get it from and I'm in the US.

I found that Glycine made my syptoms worse as well. And GABA did make
me feel a little sleepy. But the werid thing is that when you take
GABA and Glycine together they seem to cancel each other out and work
together to balance your brain. It's very weird, but I would highly
recommend trying it if you get the chance. I take 1mg glycine and
about 250mg Gaba. And then I take 12.5mg tianeptine (one pill) about
twice a day. If you take the tianeptine + GABA + Glycine all at once
they work together GREAT! I enjoy it very much and find myself being
more productive. I don't feel too tired or too over stimulated. It's
perfect. Adding an antipsychotic might help a little too for those of
you who need it.

~Cory

GABA itself wont pass through the blood-brain barrier, therefore,
it is useless. There are dishonest companies that sell GABA, which is
useless, and they are rip offs.
Neurontin (gabapentin) helps the GABA transport system. And,
Campral (acamprosate) is actually a glutamate blocker. These are true
antipsychotic drugs.
Dopamine blockers are not actually antipsychotic. They simply
block the reward system of the brain and make its victims miserable.
Enough dopamine blockage CAUSES hallucinations. I know. I took care of a
person with Parkenson's disease.
The so called "atypical antipsychiotic drugs" contain no glutamate
blockers, therefore they are actually NOT antipsychotic. Their dopamine
blockers cause misery, their adrenalin blockers will give an asthmatic
pneumonia in a week, their seratonin blockers CAUSE hallucinations, and
their acetylcholine blockers will turn and athelete into a weakling.
There are other health store ripoffs. There are all kinds of
expensive exotic cures that are only composed of proteins, that the
stomach acids only will reduce to amino acids, so that all proteins are
equal in the stomach, just a bunch of amino acids, all the same amino
acids, and nothing else.

On May 7, 6:35*am, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:
> * * * GABA itself wont pass through the blood-brain barrier, therefore,
> it is useless. There are dishonest companies that sell GABA, which is
> useless, and they are rip offs.
> * * * Neurontin (gabapentin) helps the GABA transport system. And,
> Campral (acamprosate) is actually a glutamate blocker. These are true
> antipsychotic drugs.
> * * * Dopamine blockers are not actually antipsychotic. They simply
> block the reward system of the brain and make its victims miserable.
> Enough dopamine blockage CAUSES hallucinations. I know. I took care of a
> person with Parkenson's disease.
> * * * The so called "atypical antipsychiotic drugs" contain no glutamate
> blockers, therefore they are actually NOT antipsychotic. Their dopamine
> blockers cause misery, their adrenalin blockers will give an asthmatic
> pneumonia in a week, their seratonin blockers CAUSE hallucinations, and
> their acetylcholine blockers will turn and athelete into a weakling.
> * * * There are other health store ripoffs. There are all kinds of
> expensive exotic cures that are only composed of proteins, that the
> stomach acids only will reduce to amino acids, so that all proteins are
> equal in the stomach, just a bunch of amino acids, all the same amino
> acids, and nothing e

Actually Gaba can cross the blood brain barrier. It does it quite
well. Try it before you post this false information.
-cory

Here it is. I am holding a bottle of it right here in my hand, and
again I took two pills. These pills have never done anything. I'd get
more results from a teaspoon of maple syrup.
This is Gero-Vita's G.H.3. It says it has 100 mg. of
Para-aminobenzoicacid, PABA. This G.H.3. has a whole bunch of vitamins
in it, so that it does pass as a vitamin pill.
Gero-Vita has a history. It descended from Dr. Anna Aslan's
Aslan-Vital, which originally contained procaine, a MAO inhibitor like
cocaine. It is no wonder that senior citizens felt young after taking
some Aslan-Vital.
My cousin and I went to one of Dr. Aslan's seminars in the
Geriatric Cure Center in Tushnad, Romania. There are other ways of
renewing youth in Transylvania.

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Could you please post relevant material and not be so annoying. The
truth is that GABA supplements work. I don't know what you're taking,
but that vitamin mixture doesn't sound like the GABA that I have. And
I don't care about your worthless alchemy groups. I hope you die so I
don't have to read any more of your empty posts.

~Cory

Sounds like GABA makes you want people dead.

On May 8, 3:51*am, Erik the Red <spock_smo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Sounds like GABA makes you want people dead.

What I want is constructive postings relating to SZ which present
facts and ideas and work towards an effective treatment. This man is
the opposite of all of these things and I can assure you I would not
care at all for his existence regardless of any mental disease or
medication. what he does is rude and selfish and attempts to undue the
constructive topics that I try to bring to this discussion board.
-Cory

Remind me not to disagree with you.

If I take Gaba and it works for me, and 5 other people take Gaba and
it works for them, and then someone comes and tells me "oh, that stuff
doesn't actually cross the blood brain barrier and so it actually has
no effect" then I'm going to tell them that the truth is that it does
work, because that is my experience with it and that is the experience
of many other people. I did not get mad at him for disagreeing with
me. I got mad at him for making these large obnoxious posts that are
completely irrelevant to anything we are discussing. I find it
infuriating and insulting that I am experimenting with different
medications, and different combinations of medications, to find
something that works better than the antipsychotics, and then when I
try to share my findings and ideas with other people and be
constructive, they go make obnoxious claims and make large worthless
posts such as the one he posted above. It's rude of him to do that
when I'm trying to make civilized conversation. And so, as far as I'm
concerned, if he isn't going to be constructive towards discussing SZ
or working towards a treatment for SZ, then what the hell is he doing
here??? He has no business disrupting this discussion board with
useless blabber that is only pleasing to him. You're free to disagree
with me and have experiences that are different from me. I don't care
about that. But when you act like how he is acting, then I step up and
respond with criticism to show them that what they are doing is wrong
and is bothering others. Sometimes to make my point clear I respond
with very extreme and harsh criticism.

-Cory

<coryschulz@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> If I take Gaba and it works for me, and 5 other people take Gaba and
> it works for them, and then someone comes and tells me "oh, that stuff
> doesn't actually cross the blood brain barrier and so it actually has
> no effect" then I'm going to tell them that the truth is that it does
> work, because that is my experience with it and that is the experience
> of many other people. I did not get mad at him for disagreeing with
> me. I got mad at him for making these large obnoxious posts that are
> completely irrelevant to anything we are discussing. I find it
> infuriating and insulting that I am experimenting with different
> medications, and different combinations of medications, to find
> something that works better than the antipsychotics, and then when I
> try to share my findings and ideas with other people and be
> constructive, they go make obnoxious claims and make large worthless
> posts such as the one he posted above. It's rude of him to do that
> when I'm trying to make civilized conversation. And so, as far as I'm
> concerned, if he isn't going to be constructive towards discussing SZ
> or working towards a treatment for SZ, then what the hell is he doing
> here??? He has no business disrupting this discussion board with
> useless blabber that is only pleasing to him. You're free to disagree
> with me and have experiences that are different from me. I don't care
> about that. But when you act like how he is acting, then I step up and
> respond with criticism to show them that what they are doing is wrong
> and is bothering others. Sometimes to make my point clear I respond
> with very extreme and harsh criticism.
>
> -Cory

I find your posts interesting, and I think I can recognize bogus replies as
they may occur. I think you could be gentle in responding -that you
disagree with the replies you regard as delusional. Most folk here are
likely to say some odd stuff from time to time.

Back when I was unmedicated, I had a special diet I developed that help me a
lot. With meds, however, I can eat the previously troublesome foods without
adverse effect. Thus, I don't even bother with it anymore.

Also, unmedicated, I would improve if I consumed a large quantity of water
on a given day. I once had a rapid infusion of IV fluid in an ER, and
experienced a profound improvement in my psychology. The effect would only
last a few hours. (I turned out to have pneumonia, at the time.)

I've found that diet and exercise have a huge effect on how I feel.
When I get a good nights sleep and eat mostly fruits and vegetables
and exercise I find that my stress levels go way down and I feel more
focused. I'm slowly accepting that I will need to be on some type of
medication for the rest of my life, or at least for a while.
Personally, I hate taking medications and for most of my life have
been against things like antidepressants and antipsychotics. I still
occasionally take 10mg of Geodon. I have some seroquel too, but never
really take it. I might try and get some more amisulpride. That helped
a little bit but seemed to stop working after a while. Maybe if I just
take it occasionally...

I'm very confident that within the next 5 to 8 years there will be
many different medication options available to us. Everything from
NMDA and glutamate stabilizers, to better dopamine partial agonists,
to GABA enhancers, to cognitive enhancers, as well as another couple
types of medications in testing. Maybe there will be a combination of
these things that will work well together such as an NMDA glutamate
stabilizer and a GABA enhancer and a Nicotine agonist. Personally, I
can see myself being on tianeptine for a while. It's a really nice
medication and I always recommend it to people. It relieves stress and
makes you feel a little happier and more focused. It does great
things.

-Cory

I find chocolate and peanut butter a pretty good mix.
Sorry, it was the zyprexa talking.

If people are schizophrenic they belong here. And, they have a
right to be what they are, that is also, they have a right to act the
way they are. Click the address down below here. You will see that you
will get back exactly what you have measured out. All your GABAge is
coming back to you.


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On Tue, 6 May 2008 19:29:17 -0700, "Nom dePlume" <meds@mentalmeds.org>
wrote:

><coryschulz@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:e62910ae-d3de-46b8-b795-be8e0bad67e5@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> I've been taking a combination of GABA, Glycine, and tianpetine and
>> find that they balance each other out rather well. Has anyone else
>> tried tianeptine or a combination of these drugs?
>>
>> -Cory
>
>Tianeptine is an interesting medication, not available in the US. I wish it
>were, since it has a unique mechanism (serotonin reuptake acceleration).


Why not just take a serotonin precursor like 5-hydroxy-tryptophan

Ray

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The return on one's actions expressed by Jesus Christ when he
said, "What you measure out to others will be measured out to you", and
the concept of karma, is mechanized by the Closed Circuit Axiom. In the
one substance, E=Mc², motion can only be in closed circuitry, that
there be something to move out of the way and fill in behind. It is
inevitable that "actions bring reactions that return with equal worth".

On May 10, 8:25*am, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:
> * * * The return on one's actions expressed by Jesus Christ when he
> said, "What you measure out to others will be measured out to you", and
> the concept of karma, is mechanized by the Closed Circuit Axiom. In the
> one substance, E=Mc², motion can only be in closed circuitry, that
> there be something to move out of the way and fill in behind. It is
> inevitable that "actions bring reactions that return with equal worth".

Another, not nec. truthful view, is that karma and the concept of get
what you give, I think, comes about as a result of human beings
sometimes treacherous nature and also that some folks are just bad
ass's. The bad ass's are always giving it out and they sure do get it
back i believe but, fate and the chance of being in the wrong place at
the wrong time also plays some part. My motto for myself is to make an
effort to smile and be friendly. I take my meds as it helps me to
smile. Perpetual energys in the form of 'good' and 'bad' are something
I think Jesus was onto. He was a smart, smart man indeed. Perhaps too
smart and that is why he may have been killed. If he did not die then
it is certain that he got the hell out of the Roman states and
reflected on the ferocious energy of the Roman power
plays....polititians or clergy in the roman empire were then the bad
ass's....aiming for world ownership...for what reason i do not know. I
still do not get it...why some bad ass's are so needing power. Must be
some kind of serotonin boost i guess...Unlike the power players - keep
a low profile and then whatever does come back to you will be, as you
said, of equal worth. Perhaps a smile if i am lucky.

On May 9, 4:14*pm, homo zen <texasgo...@at-gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 6 May 2008 19:29:17 -0700, "Nom dePlume" <m...@mentalmeds.org>
> wrote:
>
> ><corysch...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:e62910ae-d3de-46b8-b795-be8e0bad67e5@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> >> I've been taking a combination of GABA, Glycine, and tianpetine and
> >> find that they balance each other out rather well. Has anyone else
> >> tried tianeptine or a combination of these drugs?
>
> >> -Cory
>
> >Tianeptine is an interesting medication, not available in the US. I wish it
> >were, since it has a unique mechanism (serotonin reuptake acceleration).
>
> Why not just take a serotonin precursor like 5-hydroxy-tryptophan
>
> Ray
>
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Tianeptine doesn't increase serotonin. Actually it does the opposite.
It is very different from taking any serotonin precurser. try it. You
will see.
-Cory

On Fri, 9 May 2008 19:59:46 -0700 (PDT), "coryschulz@gmail.com"
<coryschulz@gmail.com> wrote:

>On May 9, 4:14*pm, homo zen <texasgo...@at-gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 6 May 2008 19:29:17 -0700, "Nom dePlume" <m...@mentalmeds.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> ><corysch...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:e62910ae-d3de-46b8-b795-be8e0bad67e5@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> >> I've been taking a combination of GABA, Glycine, and tianpetine and
>> >> find that they balance each other out rather well. Has anyone else
>> >> tried tianeptine or a combination of these drugs?
>>
>> >> -Cory
>>
>> >Tianeptine is an interesting medication, not available in the US. I wish it
>> >were, since it has a unique mechanism (serotonin reuptake acceleration).
>>
>> Why not just take a serotonin precursor like 5-hydroxy-tryptophan
>>
>> Ray
>>
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>Tianeptine doesn't increase serotonin. Actually it does the opposite.
>It is very different from taking any serotonin precurser. try it. You
>will see.
>-Cory

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On Fri, 9 May 2008 19:59:46 -0700 (PDT), "coryschulz@gmail.com"
<coryschulz@gmail.com> wrote:

>On May 9, 4:14*pm, homo zen <texasgo...@at-gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 6 May 2008 19:29:17 -0700, "Nom dePlume" <m...@mentalmeds.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> ><corysch...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:e62910ae-d3de-46b8-b795-be8e0bad67e5@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> >> I've been taking a combination of GABA, Glycine, and tianpetine and
>> >> find that they balance each other out rather well. Has anyone else
>> >> tried tianeptine or a combination of these drugs?
>>
>> >> -Cory
>>
>> >Tianeptine is an interesting medication, not available in the US. I wish it
>> >were, since it has a unique mechanism (serotonin reuptake acceleration).
>>
>> Why not just take a serotonin precursor like 5-hydroxy-tryptophan
>>
>> Ray
>>
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>Tianeptine doesn't increase serotonin. Actually it does the opposite.
>It is very different from taking any serotonin precurser. try it. You
>will see.
>-Cory


Hmm, I'm intrigued. How would I as an American get my hands on
tianeptine. Sounds like it might be mostly an energizing
drug/nutrient. I would also be interested to see how it interacted
with a serotonin precursor.

Ray

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On May 10, 2:00*am, homo zen <texasgo...@at-gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 9 May 2008 19:59:46 -0700 (PDT), "corysch...@gmail.com"
>
>
>
> <corysch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 9, 4:14*pm, homo zen <texasgo...@at-gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 6 May 2008 19:29:17 -0700, "Nom dePlume" <m...@mentalmeds.org>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> ><corysch...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:e62910ae-d3de-46b8-b795-be8e0bad67e5@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com....
> >> >> I've been taking a combination of GABA, Glycine, and tianpetine and
> >> >> find that they balance each other out rather well. Has anyone else
> >> >> tried tianeptine or a combination of these drugs?
>
> >> >> -Cory
>
> >> >Tianeptine is an interesting medication, not available in the US. I wish it
> >> >were, since it has a unique mechanism (serotonin reuptake acceleration).
>
> >> Why not just take a serotonin precursor like 5-hydroxy-tryptophan
>
> >> Ray
>
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> >Tianeptine doesn't increase serotonin. Actually it does the opposite.
> >It is very different from taking any serotonin precurser. try it. You
> >will see.
> >-Cory
>
> Hmm, I'm intrigued. *How would I as an American get my hands on
> tianeptine. *Sounds like it might be mostly an energizing
> drug/nutrient. *I would also be interested to see how it interacted
> with a serotonin precursor.
>
> Ray
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I order it from an overseas pharmacy. I've ordered from them many
times and they've been very reliable for me. I plan on ordering more
tianeptine in the next few weeks. If you want I could send you some
when I get them so that way you can try it first without putting any
money down. Ive had great results with this medication and try to get
others to try it too. I don't know if it would be good to enhance
serotonin while taking it. That might be too much for your serotonin
receptors to handle at once. I wouldn't say it's an energizing
medication. For me it is very relaxing and helps me focus and remember
things better. I also feel a little happier when i take it, which is
expected as it is an antidepressant. I will post some links with more
information on it tomorrow. Right now I'm typing this out from an
iPhone, so my abilities are a bit limited. I encourage you to do a
Google search on tianeptine and read up on it before you try it. It's
always good to know what you're putting in your body.

~Cory

"What goes around comes around", also known as "karma", is
absolutely true. Motion in the one substance, E=Mc², can only be in
closed circuitry, that there be something to move out of the way and
fill in behind.
"Good, bad"? Everyone will agree that "Pain is evil, relief is
good; there is no other morality", and, "Actions bring reactions that
return with equal worth; there is no other justice".
Only Jesus can save you from anything. I know this has been
memorized from Alchemy61; but, there is no copyright enforced on it. It
is hoped that eveyone will spread the information that is there.


http://community.webtv.net/mpereira/TheSecretsofthe

On May 10, 4:56*am, mpere...@webtv.net (Michael A. Pereira) wrote:
> * * * "What goes around comes around", also known as "karma", is
> absolutely true. Motion in the one substance, E=Mc², can only be in
> closed circuitry, that there be something to move out of the way and
> fill in behind.
> * * * "Good, bad"? Everyone will agree that "Pain is evil, relief is
> good; there is no other morality", and, "Actions bring reactions that
> return with equal worth; there is no other justice".
> * * * Only Jesus can save you from anything. I know this has been
> memorized from Alchemy61; but, there is no copyright enforced on it. It
> is hoped that eveyone will spread the information that is there.
>
> http://community.webtv.net/mpereira/TheSecretsofthe


Your karma is terrible. Based on your own rules you deserve a mass
flood of worthless time wasting crap.

I do. I get it all back, and I love it. I am a bull artist. I deal
in bull. An occupational councellor said to me that without a PhD I am
nothing but a bull artist, and that is what I am. I have dealt with bull
for decades and I'm getting to be an expert.
You may recognize some other bull artists. We refuse to take
dopamine blockers! They are probably my associates.
The "pigs" deserve it; and, "pig lovers" deserve it.


http://community.webtv.net/mpereira/TheSecretsofthe

On May 6, 1:42 am, "corysch...@gmail.com" <corysch...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I've been taking a combination of GABA, Glycine, and tianpetine and
> find that they balance each other out rather well. Has anyone else
> tried tianeptine or a combination of these drugs?
>
> -Cory

There is a very good description of glycine and how it works in a new
book called Schizophrenia Medicines Mystery Societys Shame at
http://www.lulu.com/content/2283763

Glycine is a co-agonist on the NMDA receptor along with glutamate. It
can help stimulate activity in your brain.

There is a Wikipedia article on tianeptine.

It sounds like it has similar effects and side effects as my imipramine,
which is a tricyclic. Imipramine is generic in the US. It has side
effects, but they sound similar to the side effects of tianeptine.

Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianeptine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imipramine

QN

Oh no. Tianeptine is completely different from that drug. Tianeptine
is an SSRE, and there is no other drug like it. Imipramine is a
reuptake inhibitor for both serotonin and norepinephrine, which is the
complete opposite of tianeptine. Also it states that Imipramine has
been known to cause psychosis and make symptoms worse, which
tianeptine has been shown to treat. Imipramine has all sorts of side
effects involving the heart and blood pressure. There's a huge section
on the various side effects. Tianeptine's side effects are mild, like
dry mouth and mild head aches, which I've never really experienced.
The only side effect I get form tianeptine is insomnia, but I've had
that all my life, and that's only really when I take it late in the
evening, like right before I'm about to go to bed.

As you can see they are both completely different. There is no other
medication that is similar to tianeptine. It is in a class of
medication all its own. That's what makes it so special and unique.
Personally, I would probably never try the imipramine. It doesn't seem
like the right drug for this sort of disease. Infact, I pretty much
hate all antidepressants: SSRIs, TCAs, MAOIs, SNRI, and DNRIs. They
all just look to flood your brain with these neurotransmitters and
often times have terrible side effects and aren't very effective.
Tianeptine works by altering the way certain neurons and pathways
function and works primarily by lowering your stress levels and
augmenting your serotonin system. It does not overly flood your brain
with chemicals and has almost no side effects except feeling a little
happier and less stressed out.

http://www.tianeptine.com/
There is a site with a decent amount of information about it as well.

~Cory

<coryschulz@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b0b20156-48c7-44f1-b56c-28a5c741e777@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> Oh no. Tianeptine is completely different from that drug. Tianeptine
> is an SSRE, and there is no other drug like it. Imipramine is a
> reuptake inhibitor for both serotonin and norepinephrine, which is the
> complete opposite of tianeptine. Also it states that Imipramine has
> been known to cause psychosis and make symptoms worse, which
> tianeptine has been shown to treat. Imipramine has all sorts of side
> effects involving the heart and blood pressure. There's a huge section
> on the various side effects. Tianeptine's side effects are mild, like
> dry mouth and mild head aches, which I've never really experienced.
> The only side effect I get form tianeptine is insomnia, but I've had
> that all my life, and that's only really when I take it late in the
> evening, like right before I'm about to go to bed.
>
> As you can see they are both completely different. There is no other
> medication that is similar to tianeptine. It is in a class of
> medication all its own. That's what makes it so special and unique.
> Personally, I would probably never try the imipramine. It doesn't seem
> like the right drug for this sort of disease. Infact, I pretty much
> hate all antidepressants: SSRIs, TCAs, MAOIs, SNRI, and DNRIs. They
> all just look to flood your brain with these neurotransmitters and
> often times have terrible side effects and aren't very effective.
> Tianeptine works by altering the way certain neurons and pathways
> function and works primarily by lowering your stress levels and
> augmenting your serotonin system. It does not overly flood your brain
> with chemicals and has almost no side effects except feeling a little
> happier and less stressed out.
>
> http://www.tianeptine.com/
> There is a site with a decent amount of information about it as well.
>
> ~Cory

OK Well,
if tianeptine becomes available in the US, I'll have my p-doc write me a
prescription. It sounds like it is worth a try.

Ordering from outside the US to bypass the absence of FDA approval makes me
uncomfortable.

It is definitely worth trying, but I promise you that it will never be
FDA approved. It has already gone generic in Europe and is rather
cheap. There is not a lot of money for pharmaceutical companies to
make off of it. To get it FDA approved they would need to invest
possibly millions of dollars in extra clinical trials and paperwork
for the FDA. No company is going to invest that kind of money on a
drug that potentially would provide little to no profit. And so No
Profit = They won't ever invest in it. It's all just a matter of
economics, and in the end people like you and me can't get the drugs
that we need because they don't want to give it to us because there's
no profit in it for them. Very sad actually....

What you could do, is print off some of the information and take it to
your p-doc and tell them about it. Say that you've heard from other
people with SZ that it helps them a lot and that you're interested to
try it and see what they think. They very well may say "yeah, give it
a try. couldn't hurt." or they might tell you to avoid it. I would
also like to say that the drugs come in their original manufacturing
box, with production dates and codes and expiration dates, and that
there is no reason to doubt the authenticity of them.

But if you're happy enough with the meds you have, then why bother.

~Cory