getting back into the workforce

Finally had my meeting with Disability Employment Supports. Ha ha? Well,
what I said to chessucat is true. I could hustle my way into a joe job
fairly easily--convenience store clerk, donut bunny, floor mopper, etc. But
what I didn't tell ches is that, being the way I am, I'd get fired or quit
on the first day. So I need help finding a job I can _keep_.

Anyway: Employment Supports is a separate department that cuts a check to an
approved employment assistance agency. There are bunches to choose from. One
even specializes in adult Aspies and runs a coffee shop staffed entirely by
autistics. Two others specialize in self-employment. I can approach any of
them and let them make a sales pitch to me. In the next 14 calendar days I
phone in my choice to ES, they fax forms to me to sign, and I become a
client. Then they have 13 weeks to help me get ready for a job and another
33 months to help me keep or work my way up to the right job. ES cuts them
checks on my behalf based on file audits and reports, which basically means,
if I ain't workin', they don't get paid.

So off I do to do some research.

Miki

On Jan 29, 9:10 pm, "Miki Kocic" <relapcc...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> Finally had my meeting with Disability Employment Supports. Ha ha? Well,
> what I said to chessucat is true. I could hustle my way into a joe job
> fairly easily--convenience store clerk, donut bunny, floor mopper, etc. But
> what I didn't tell ches is that, being the way I am, I'd get fired or quit
> on the first day. So I need help finding a job I can _keep_.
>
> Anyway: Employment Supports is a separate department that cuts a check to an
> approved employment assistance agency. There are bunches to choose from. One
> even specializes in adult Aspies and runs a coffee shop staffed entirely by
> autistics. Two others specialize in self-employment. I can approach any of
> them and let them make a sales pitch to me. In the next 14 calendar days I
> phone in my choice to ES, they fax forms to me to sign, and I become a
> client. Then they have 13 weeks to help me get ready for a job and another
> 33 months to help me keep or work my way up to the right job. ES cuts them
> checks on my behalf based on file audits and reports, which basically means,
> if I ain't workin', they don't get paid.
>
> So off I do to do some research.
>
> Miki

Coincidence, Miki. I just finished posting about my old work and here
this was. I was not copying you.

Good luck with that stuff.

Sorry if my first post was unclear. This is what happens:

1. ES cuts cheques to a private employment assistance agency based on how
successful that agency is with me.
2. For the next two weeks I get to scare up various approved agencies from a
list provided to me by ES, and although I said those agencies make a "sales
pitch" to me because they're competing with each other to have me as a
client, really it isn't quite so predatory. They're supposed to do their
homework to see whether they can satisfy ES that they're helping me so that
ES will cut them checks
3. I've already signed an agreement with ES. Once I've made my choice of
agency I phone it in to my worker at ES and she faxes documents for the
agency to sign, and I become the agency's client.
4. For 13 weeks the agency gets no money while helping me prepare for and
find the right job. Once I've found a job the agency gets paid by ES for the
next 33 months on the basis of file audits, which means ES keeps tabs on
what the agency is doing for me. ES has to feel _it_ is getting good value
for the money. Me, I'm subject to an elaborate reporting process where I
know exactly what to bitch about to whom if I'm not happy with the service,
and there are very well laid out rules as to what can be done about it.
5. If I need to buy stuff like clothes and shoes, tools, etc. I get up to
$500 in cash directly from ES's sister arm at Income Supports. If starting a
small business I can get up to $500 for startup costs. Once I have a job I
get an extra $100 a month for things like bus fares and lunch, plus I get to
keep 50% of my net pay (which means that, with a net work income of $200 a
month, I break even, and with less I make money off my disability benefit,
and with more I make money off my job). The $500 balloon payments are
audited and I have to keep receipts, but the extra $100 a month is not
audited and I just need to keep copies of my pay stub or normal tax-related
business receipts.
6. If I need a small amount of money, such as $200, to get past some hurdle
during the 13-week preparatory period, the agency itself has a choice to
discharge me as a client and get nothing from ES for its efforts or to
advance me the money out of its own pocket with no reimbursement. Unless I'm
a con artist who's just scamming free bucks all the time, the usual practice
is to just hand the client the cash and have him sign a receipt. This
doesn't affect my Income Support benefit because the money is earmarked for
an expense beyond normal shelter and basic needs.

I said something about one agency, Hawking Institute, specializing in adult
autistics and Aspies and running a coffee shop staffed entirely by
autistics. A job in this coffee shop is not considered a permanent job and
is not justification for Hawking to get 33 months' worth of checks from ES.
It's either transitional employment to build job experience and acquire
job-retention skills or a place to work outside the ES process, much as the
CNIB Broom Shop is for the blind.

Miki

"Miki Kocic" <relapcchio@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:13pvqknkavttda2@corp.supernews.com...
> Finally had my meeting with Disability Employment Supports. Ha ha? Well,
> what I said to chessucat is true. I could hustle my way into a joe job
> fairly easily--convenience store clerk, donut bunny, floor mopper, etc.
> But what I didn't tell ches is that, being the way I am, I'd get fired or
> quit on the first day. So I need help finding a job I can _keep_.
>
> Anyway: Employment Supports is a separate department that cuts a check to
> an approved employment assistance agency. There are bunches to choose
> from. One even specializes in adult Aspies and runs a coffee shop staffed
> entirely by autistics. Two others specialize in self-employment. I can
> approach any of them and let them make a sales pitch to me. In the next 14
> calendar days I phone in my choice to ES, they fax forms to me to sign,
> and I become a client. Then they have 13 weeks to help me get ready for a
> job and another 33 months to help me keep or work my way up to the right
> job. ES cuts them checks on my behalf based on file audits and reports,
> which basically means, if I ain't workin', they don't get paid.
>
> So off I do to do some research.
>
> Miki
>

Why do you want to work?