Glycine and Dimethylglycine

[Ray Kinserlow]

I have started taking glycine and dimethylglycine recently and it
really seems to help. I feel more focused.

http://www.schizophrenia.com/glycinetreat.htm


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Ray W. Kinserlow Jr.
Lubbock, Texas
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[Pies de Arcilla]

On Feb 21, 9:37 am, Ray Kinserlow <m...@nospam.net> wrote:
> I have started taking glycine and dimethylglycine recently and it
> really seems to help. I feel more focused.

I was excited about the possibility that glycine might help, but
unfortunately very little gets to the brain. The studies that showed a
positive effect from glycine involved giving people massive doses,
like the equivalent of 80 pills a day.

[Ray Kinserlow]

On 21 Feb 2007 10:46:42 -0800, "Pies de Arcilla" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Feb 21, 9:37 am, Ray Kinserlow <m...@nospam.net> wrote:
>> I have started taking glycine and dimethylglycine recently and it
>> really seems to help. I feel more focused.
>
>I was excited about the possibility that glycine might help, but
>unfortunately very little gets to the brain. The studies that showed a
>positive effect from glycine involved giving people massive doses,
>like the equivalent of 80 pills a day.

That crossed my mind also which is why I started the dimethylglycine.
dimethylglycine is coverted to sarcocine(methylglycine) which can pass
through the brain/blood barrier. I'll stop the glycine for a few days
to see if I feel any different on the dimethylglycine alone. We'll
see.

Regards,
Ray


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Ray W. Kinserlow Jr.
Lubbock, Texas
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blog http://360.yahoo.com/kinserlow
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[[email protected]]

After seeing this thread the other day I decided to try some
trimethylglycine that I bought a while ago but never tried. I took a
half a pill earlier today and have felt a noticeable difference. The
trimethylglycine gets broken down into dimethylglycine, which is then
broken down into glycine.

http://www.schizophrenia.com/sznews/...es/003813.html
Scroll down to the bottom and read what the one guy posted. He seems
to know what he's talking about.

It seems to help in numerous ways.
Tomorrow I will try a full pill and see if that is more effective. It
does make my muscles a little shaky. But that could also just be from
the antipsychotics I've recently tried.

[Penguin A]

Can you buy glycine and dimethylglycine at a health food store?

Can you give more information about those items?

I can't really read schizophrenia.com, it shows up blurry with my webtv.

Thanks
penguin

[Ray Kinserlow]

On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:40:33 -0800, [email protected] (Penguin A)
wrote:

>
>Can you buy glycine and dimethylglycine at a health food store?
>
>Can you give more information about those items?
>
>I can't really read schizophrenia.com, it shows up blurry with my webtv.
>
>Thanks
>penguin

I would try the dimethylglycine first(also called DMG ) since it takes
less than glycine. If that doesn't do the trick, I would try the
glycine.

I get my DMG at

http://www.iherb.com/store/productde...&pid=NOW-00472

You can read about dimethylglycine DMG at

http://www.pdrhealth.com/drug_info/n...dim_0097.shtml

I get my glycine at

http://www.shop.com/op/~L_Glycine_Po...8?sourceid=298

Keep us updated on how you're doing with this. I'm really curious. If
I get to feeling worse I will go back on the glycine but that remains
to be seen. Right now I am taking 3 125mg caps of DMG a day with
meals.


Regards,
Ray


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Ray W. Kinserlow Jr.
Lubbock, Texas
webpage http://members.cox.net/rkinserlow/
blog http://360.yahoo.com/kinserlow
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[Ray Kinserlow]

On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:40:33 -0800, [email protected] (Penguin A)
wrote:

>
>Can you buy glycine and dimethylglycine at a health food store?
>
>Can you give more information about those items?
>
>I can't really read schizophrenia.com, it shows up blurry with my webtv.
>
>Thanks
>penguin


To answer your question, yes you can buy glycine and dimethylglycine
or DMG at a well stocked health food store. i would look for the"
NOW" brand. I've had good luck with them. If they don't have them
make them order it for you.

Dimethylglycine or DMG seems to be indicated in the treatment of
autism which is a symptom of sz.

Glycine doesn't pass the blood/brain barrier very well and has to be
taken in large doses to get any effect. say 10's of grams of glycine.
I couldn't take the recommended dose it made me too sick at my
stomach. I was taking a few grams of glycine a day but have now
stopped that to see if the dimethylglycine is enough.


Regards,
Ray

[Penguin A]

Thanks for all the info, Ray.

penguin

[Adamski_Rasputin]

On 21 feb, 15:37, Ray Kinserlow <m...@nospam.net> wrote:
> I have started taking glycine and dimethylglycine recently and it
> really seems to help. I feel more focused.
>
> http://www.schizophrenia.com/glycinetreat.htm
>
> ---------
> Ray W. Kinserlow Jr.
> Lubbock, Texas
> webpagehttp://members.cox.net/rkinserlow/
> bloghttp://360.yahoo.com/kinserlow
> ---------

Good luck with your new found therapy

Berty

[[email protected]]

The trimethylglycine I've been taking seems to help a lot!!! It's a
very noticeable difference on my negative symptoms. Tomorrow I'm going
to try it at a higher dosage, as I've only been taking half a pill
twice daily.

This is something I can see myself taking for a long time.

[Ray Kinserlow]

On 22 Feb 2007 21:13:43 -0800, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>The trimethylglycine I've been taking seems to help a lot!!! It's a
>very noticeable difference on my negative symptoms. Tomorrow I'm going
>to try it at a higher dosage, as I've only been taking half a pill
>twice daily.
>
>This is something I can see myself taking for a long time.


Trimethylglycine is probably similar to DMG, dimethylglycine. I know
it is evenually converted to glycine by the liver and it is good for
your heart.

Here is a wikipedia page on trimethylglycine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trimethylglycine

I am doing well on my DMG. I doubled my daily dose to 250mg at meals
and I feel pretty good. I was getting a little foggy taking so much
glycine but that has cleared up now.

Regards,
Ray

[[email protected]]

Yeah, I posted more about TMG above. It gets converted to DMG, which
is then converted to glycine. It's supposed to have a few added
benefits and be slightly cheaper.

It definitely feels different from the glycine I was taking. Regular
glycine made me feel really speedy and my thoughts were choppy and I
spaced out a little. I don't know why TMG is working so well for me if
it does a similar thing.

I also sometimes take low doses of propranolol (norepinephrine beta-
blocker) and meditate. It's supposed to completely turn off your fear
response in your amygdala and is being tested as a treatment for PTSD.
But that's probably not a good idea for most people to do...

[Miguel Lahunkun]

Glycine is a basic amino acid. It's one of the primary 20 amino
acids that are programmed by the nucleotide permutation code system of
DNA. It's ubiquitous! It's throughout our bodies and in all our foods.
But it is a New Age faddish thing to overdo on one ingredient or another
with occult claims of magickal cures. Try this with tryptophan and you
will get hallucinations from it's indole ringed break down products and
complexes like dimethyltryptamine.
Dimethylglycine is another complex that forms in the juices of
degeneration. It too is ubiquitous.

[Ray Kinserlow]

On 23 Feb 2007 00:33:04 -0800, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Yeah, I posted more about TMG above. It gets converted to DMG, which
>is then converted to glycine. It's supposed to have a few added
>benefits and be slightly cheaper.
>
>It definitely feels different from the glycine I was taking. Regular
>glycine made me feel really speedy and my thoughts were choppy and I
>spaced out a little. I don't know why TMG is working so well for me if
>it does a similar thing.
>
>I also sometimes take low doses of propranolol (norepinephrine beta-
>blocker) and meditate. It's supposed to completely turn off your fear
>response in your amygdala and is being tested as a treatment for PTSD.
>But that's probably not a good idea for most people to do...


I don't know how TMG could be cheaper than DMG. I pay about $6 for a
bottle of 125mg 100 count. Just ordered 12 bottles of DMG last night.
Going to turn a few people on to this stuff.

I find that niacin helps me when I am speedy and nervous. I take
about 250 mg at supper and bedtime. It is also good for your lipid
profile.

Another good nutrient I started recently is Alpha Lipoic Acid, 600 mg
a day. Don't know why, I just feel better on the stuffl.

Regards,
Ray


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Ray W. Kinserlow Jr.
Lubbock, Texas
webpage http://members.cox.net/rkinserlow/
blog http://360.yahoo.com/kinserlow
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[Ray Kinserlow]

On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:50:05 -0500, [email protected] (Miguel
Lahunkun) wrote:

> Glycine is a basic amino acid. It's one of the primary 20 amino
>acids that are programmed by the nucleotide permutation code system of
>DNA. It's ubiquitous! It's throughout our bodies and in all our foods.
>But it is a New Age faddish thing to overdo on one ingredient or another
>with occult claims of magickal cures. Try this with tryptophan and you
>will get hallucinations from it's indole ringed break down products and
>complexes like dimethyltryptamine.
>Dimethylglycine is another complex that forms in the juices of
>degeneration. It too is ubiquitous.


http://www.schizophrenia.com/glycinetreat.htm


Regards,
Ray


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Ray W. Kinserlow Jr.
Lubbock, Texas
webpage http://members.cox.net/rkinserlow/
blog http://360.yahoo.com/kinserlow
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