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alchemy61@yahoogroups.com, "lahunken" <lahunken@...> wrote:
********The Christian way has been called "the straight
and narrow". The way of the majority has been "the broad road". *
Everything is trying to run down. Like in a bottle of water shaken, the
bubbles soon undifferentiate. * Things, "infomation", in the universe
have been found to have began in a similar way, the "Big Bang". The
clashing of photons produce particles. * It is said that the last
proton, by itself, will sink away in ten to the thirty third power
years. But, its antiparticle can undifferentiate it right away. *
Churches cash in on the fear of eternal torment, the use of Plato's
unproven dogma of "the immortality of the soul". I was talking to a
Jehova's Winess and we agreed that "eternal punishment is infinite
injustice". * Pain is evil, relief is good; there is no other morlity.
Actions bring reactions that return with equal worth; there is no other
justice. * But, the Second Law of Thermodynamics says that
"information" is perishable. In general systems dynamics engineering
"information" is defined to be the "conformation of energy". * The
First Law of Thermodynamics is that energy can neither be created nor
destroyed. 1John1:5 says, "God is light". Energy is measured in photons,
quanta of light, in atoms. * The fifth dimension has been offcially
defined for science, by Harvard professor of quantum physics, Dr. Lisa
Randall, as that direction to and from warped timespaces. * In the
globally bent timespaces polarities cancel out faster. A real fast
polarity cancellation is fire. But, God has His divine fire. * The
mind gets very powerful in the globally bent timespaces. There, "those
who have captured all their thoughts in service of Christ" find
paradise. All others reach a point where they can't control their
thoughts and produce hell for themselves. * The realm of the globally
bent time spaces was called "the Underworld" by the ancients. But, both
Heaven and Hell are in there.
To save you a question, I have been in there for over 99% of my
existence. * The Underworld can be visited, back and forth, while in
life. Check out my other posts in here. I try to leave the Underworld
open and available for everyone to visit. It will teach them some
lessons. They wont have to rely on hear say. * But personally, I'd
settle for nonexistence, to be free from suffering eternally.
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alchemy61@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Dawson" <phil@> wrote:
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alchemy61@yahoogroups.com, gellie618@ wrote:
If you haven't submitted your life to Christ and been reborn you
haven't got a "snowball's chances". <
Well I don't know what to think of this post. Surprise, is an
understatement.
2008 years ago Christianity didn't exist and hundreds of millions of
people had lived by the time Christ was born. These peoples crimes had
only been that they where born before they could be saved.
Are they in `HELL´? Where ever that is.
If I chose not to SAY the words 'I accept Jesus Christ as my saviour' or
words to that effect I am DAMNED to a fate that will burn me for
eternity.
If I live a life that is commendable, and am not a Christian. I am
damned to a place that will torment my soul for time Immemorial.
John XXIII (Angelo Roncalli) once spoke at the Venice town hall. He
stated:
"…I am happy to be here, even though there may be some present who do
not call themselves Christians, but who can be acknowledged as such
because of their good deeds."
This was blatantly heretical according to the faithful.
I may be mistaken and I may be talking out of place, BUT during the last
80 years there has been 2 what we call 'GREAT WARS' The reason for these
wars have stirred up conflict and more war, and is as yet fully
unexplained.
The first war was due to a conflict between two cousins of royal decent.
The authoritative version of the cause has been debated and shown to be
'false flag'. The second war, as current information and documentation
shows was not what we have been taught for decades or at least the major
contributor was not what has bee explained.
In these conflicts many Christians, as in the past skirmishes and
conflicts have been at the fore. It is an inescapable fact that the
religion we call a gentle and forgiving faith has been at the root of
much bloodshed.
WHY?
The term 'be faithful to my god or suffer the consequences' come to
mind. One can buy 'that is BUY' water that is said to miraculous and can
only be anointed by a priest from the church of the Christian faith.
Hundreds of millions of people on this planet are STARVING while the
PRIESTS 'GARB' themselves in costumes that are expensive and
simplistically adorned and all to stage a ritualistic and highly
maniacal sham for a church that is wealthy beyond all recognition.
A Christian will, SMITE one for NOT being a Christian and then will turn
and declare that `to forgive is divine´ and it is best to, ´turn the
other cheek´.
We are told in the bible 'You have done more evil than all who lived
before you. You have made for yourself other gods, idols made of metal;
you have provoked me to anger and thrust me behind your back.' YET IDOLS
and ICONS are repeatedly used in churches, statues are blessed and
revered 'Before and in the presence of their OWN God'
Am I a Christian? Well maybe I am not. I have more compassion for my
fellow residents of this planet, and for the residents of other planets.
These `residents of other planets´ may not know of the Jesus Christ.
In 367 AD, Athanasius, bishop of Alexandria under Constantine the Great,
set forth what proved to be the final canon of New Testament books in a
letter listing 27 works. In 382 AD, at a synod held at Rome under Pope
Damasus, church leaders influenced by Jerome adopted this list. The list
was affirmed in councils at Hippo in 393 and 419 AD under Augustine and
was officially ratified at a council in Rome around 473 AD. However,
that council added no books that had not already been included in most
earlier lists, and excluded no books that had not already been excluded
by most lists.
In 1985 Robert Funk convened the "Jesus Seminar" to investigate the
"historical" Jesus.
One of the first items on the agenda was to read through the gospels and
decide which words that the gospels put in Jesus' mouth were things he
actually said. The participants did this by discussing and then voting
on them. An outcry was heard from conservative Christians who declared
such decisions were too important to be put to something as prosaic as
popular vote. But for the most part, that was exactly the way the modern
Bible was assembled.
And WHICH BILBE are we to take as the 'ACTUAL bible?':
THE HEBREW BIBLE
THE CATHOLIC AND ORTHODOX BIBLES
THE PROTESTANT BIBLE
Isn't it strange that it is ONLY we of the PLANET Earth that can be
saved from eternal damnation? And ONLY a FEW of us at that.
Is knowledge a 'SIN' because it seems the more knowledge one has
regarding ALL the faiths of his planet the more one comes to the
conclusion that we have been 'HAD'.
Will I go to 'HELL'? Well you know what? I will let the FIRST person to
confirm or pronounce this statement to be the one, who by their very
faith and writing, greet me at the gate because as it is supposedly
stated 'the fist stone be cast by the man who is without SIN'.
Playing at being superior is a very dangerous game, being a Christian is
VERY personal and as such should be respected. It makes NO difference
whether someone KNOWS one is a Christian or NOT. His / Her deeds will be
testament to their humanity. I state in ALL faith that, if you feel we
are ALL going to HELL, you will be very lonely in heaven. And that if
`THE ONE statement´ is required to get one into the faithful and
consequently, Heaven. I would start to rethink ones use of the English
language, because if one has ones grammar incorrect one might not have
been understood, and as you so passionately state will go to Hell.
Be careful for that which you wish.
That which one wishes on another will befall the one who wished it. That
being aid, I wish you health, wealth and happiness.
Now NOT to confuse matters, the catholic faith has a different view than
that of the Christian, in fact diametrically opposed, hence the
protestant and catholic.
If you read the bible are you reading the catholic texts stated in this
article or the protestant?
Who and what are these books opposing? And Who and what are these books
supporting? To be a TRUE Christian according to the church is: A member
of any of certain Protestant churches, as the Disciples of Christ and
the Plymouth Brethren.
So as you can see the TERM Christian is so convoluted that no one really
knows if one is a Christian or not, believe as one will one cannot, for
sure, state that the church they belong to is not a splinter church and
as such, when the chips are down, will be banished from the communion of
believers and all privileges of the church thus cutting one off from the
religious society.
Namaste, Phil
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alchemy61@yahoogroups.com, gellie618@ wrote:
************If you haven't submitted your life
to Christ and been reborn you haven't got a "snowball's chances".
************But, the unsaved have been able to
cope with thier voices for a while, in life. Spiritualists and Witches
have spirit guides, and they have one spirit guide, who manages the
others and drives away the "bad voices", called a "gate keeper".
************Also Witches use banishing
pentagrams to banish "bad voices". They simply put their thumb between
their index and middle finger and draw a pentagram in the air with it.
************My cousin was alone in a cottage in
a Spiritualist community one winter night and a spirit that looked like
an old lady didn't approve of what he was doing, so she appeared and
threw a boot at him. She grinned, thinking he would be scared.
************He simpy drew a banishing pentagram
at her and a black whirlpool appeared behind her and pulled her into it.
Her expression changed. She was the one who was scared as she
disappeared into the whirlpool as if down a flushed toilet.
************Spiritualists hear voices, Witches
hear voices, various Pagans hear voices; and, Pentecostal Christians
hear voices. Psychiatry doen't dare bother them about it today. I used
religion against psychiatry. I was backed up by the Constitution,
Supreme Court decisions, and the Uniform Commercial Code.
************Good Christians only have to say,
"Devils of Satan be gone in the name of Jesus Christ" and their bad
voices are gone. Not only that, the Bible says you can get anything God
thinks is good for you by claiming it in the name of Jesus Christ.
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