Manip attack

I've had attacks when people could "program" me and make me do things,
to the level where I would do exactly what they subconsciously
suggested me through psychological control.

I.e. this morning I've been strangely bound to other man's woman
sitting next to me, and I tried to break free but I couldn't to the
level where I've lost nerves and threw cellphone on the floor. Then
the woman silently said to him she had succeeded.

(I have frankly desired that she becomes barren as it would be very
dangerous for such person to become a mother, she could program her
own children too.)

Anybody had this problem?

At the time, I've been very bound to computers and my programming
work, to the level where it seemed to me like my brain executes
programs. I dived in it to to a better views of the problematic, but
these "mindfields" were dangerous.

On Feb 5, 9:21 am, "Marvin Barley" <mtodorov3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I've had attacks when people could "program" me and make me do things,
> to the level where I would do exactly what they subconsciously
> suggested me through psychological control.
>
I would say that this means:

I've had attacks when I could "program" me and make me do things,
to the level where I would do exactly what I subconsciously
suggested to me through psychological control, but I imagine
that someone else is to blame.

Greetings, Branimir.

"bane" <bmaxa@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1170683519.306624.309810@s48g2000cws.googlegr oups.com...
> On Feb 5, 9:21 am, "Marvin Barley" <mtodorov3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I've had attacks when people could "program" me and make me do things,
>> to the level where I would do exactly what they subconsciously
>> suggested me through psychological control.
>>
> I would say that this means:
>
> I've had attacks when I could "program" me and make me do things,
> to the level where I would do exactly what I subconsciously
> suggested to me through psychological control, but I imagine
> that someone else is to blame.
>
> Greetings, Branimir.
>

ass hole.
learn about the condition before you reply.

banjo je napisao/la:
> "bane" <bmaxa@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1170683519.306624.309810@s48g2000cws.googlegr oups.com...
> > On Feb 5, 9:21 am, "Marvin Barley" <mtodorov3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> I've had attacks when people could "program" me and make me do things,
> >> to the level where I would do exactly what they subconsciously
> >> suggested me through psychological control.
> >>
> > I would say that this means:
> >
> > I've had attacks when I could "program" me and make me do things,
> > to the level where I would do exactly what I subconsciously
> > suggested to me through psychological control, but I imagine
> > that someone else is to blame.
> >
> > Greetings, Branimir.
> >
>
> ass hole.
> learn about the condition before you reply.

Banjo, thanks for support, but no need for insults.

To some point he is right. Into my mind an idea was imputed that I
accepted as mine. I was not "programmed" as a computer do do things
neither driven like a marionette toy.

He opened my eyes.

Thank you both.

Marv

I think anyone can fall for suggestion. Some more than others. When
I was off meds and working at a grocery store, I was working in the
freezer aisle and I heard someone talking about needing to shave. I
went home and shaved my legs.
You may have heard the case where that girl was stripped searched at
McDonald's for stealing? All suggestion situations. It's really kind
of spooky how open we are.

On Feb 5, 5:20 pm, "banjo" <-deeenoregist...@hotmail.co.uk_no> wrote:
> "bane" <b...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1170683519.306624.309810@s48g2000cws.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > On Feb 5, 9:21 am, "Marvin Barley" <mtodorov3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> I've had attacks when people could "program" me and make me do things,
> >> to the level where I would do exactly what they subconsciously
> >> suggested me through psychological control.
>
> > I would say that this means:
>
> > I've had attacks when I could "program" me and make me do things,
> > to the level where I would do exactly what I subconsciously
> > suggested to me through psychological control, but I imagine
> > that someone else is to blame.
>
> > Greetings, Branimir.
>
> ass hole.
> learn about the condition before you reply.

I know Marvin through usenet for years (mostly on religious groups),
and I know what he is talking about, cause I've been three times
in psychosis in last 6 years and currently
taking risperidone with regular visits to psychiatrist.
He admits that he has schizophrenia.
If that wasn't the case I would think that he speaks about being
hypnotized, but don't you think that supporting someone in his
delusions
is productive? Well, problem with schizophrenia is that it is not some
kind
of disease that you can cure buy taking pills, rather, it is about how
one perceives reality, and most importantly, how one *interprets*
reality.
That can change simply as interpretations can change.
But one needs strong will in order to do that; and one with strong
will cannot be hypnotized. It's willing act after all.

Greetings, Branimir.

bane je napisao/la:
> On Feb 5, 5:20 pm, "banjo" <-deeenoregist...@hotmail.co.uk_no> wrote:
> > "bane" <b...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:1170683519.306624.309810@s48g2000cws.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> > > On Feb 5, 9:21 am, "Marvin Barley" <mtodorov3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> I've had attacks when people could "program" me and make me do things,
> > >> to the level where I would do exactly what they subconsciously
> > >> suggested me through psychological control.
> >
> > > I would say that this means:
> >
> > > I've had attacks when I could "program" me and make me do things,
> > > to the level where I would do exactly what I subconsciously
> > > suggested to me through psychological control, but I imagine
> > > that someone else is to blame.
> >
> > > Greetings, Branimir.
> >
> > ass hole.
> > learn about the condition before you reply.
>
> I know Marvin through usenet for years (mostly on religious groups),
> and I know what he is talking about, cause I've been three times
> in psychosis in last 6 years and currently
> taking risperidone with regular visits to psychiatrist.
> He admits that he has schizophrenia.
> If that wasn't the case I would think that he speaks about being
> hypnotized, but don't you think that supporting someone in his
> delusions
> is productive? Well, problem with schizophrenia is that it is not some
> kind
> of disease that you can cure buy taking pills, rather, it is about how
> one perceives reality, and most importantly, how one *interprets*
> reality.
> That can change simply as interpretations can change.
> But one needs strong will in order to do that; and one with strong
> will cannot be hypnotized. It's willing act after all.
>
> Greetings, Branimir.

The purpose of pills is to weaken will so you could be programmed by
technicians to "behave". To be "normal".
But in the long run, you lose natural ability to resist other people's
thoughts, worse off than if you never took pills and only have been
"psychotic".

I take Risperdal as well, but meds cannot cure evil spirits. That's
spiritual reality.

Marv

Luke Flyswatter je napisao/la:
> I think anyone can fall for suggestion. Some more than others. When
> I was off meds and working at a grocery store, I was working in the
> freezer aisle and I heard someone talking about needing to shave. I
> went home and shaved my legs.
> You may have heard the case where that girl was stripped searched at
> McDonald's for stealing? All suggestion situations. It's really kind
> of spooky how open we are.

In the beginning this was used for guidance, long before 1/3 of
guardians fell.

Now we must learn to distinguish suggestions from good guardians from
those coming from wicked, deceitful, manipulative ones. It is very
hard, though.

Marv

Besides, you speak in such language that is telling me commie shrinks
have brainwashed you.

I will pray for you brother

Marv

On Feb 6, 10:03 am, "Marvin Barley" <mtodorov3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> bane je napisao/la:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 5, 5:20 pm, "banjo" <-deeenoregist...@hotmail.co.uk_no> wrote:
> > > "bane" <b...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:1170683519.306624.309810@s48g2000cws.googleg roups.com...
>
> > > > On Feb 5, 9:21 am, "Marvin Barley" <mtodorov3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >> I've had attacks when people could "program" me and make me do things,
> > > >> to the level where I would do exactly what they subconsciously
> > > >> suggested me through psychological control.
>
> > > > I would say that this means:
>
> > > > I've had attacks when I could "program" me and make me do things,
> > > > to the level where I would do exactly what I subconsciously
> > > > suggested to me through psychological control, but I imagine
> > > > that someone else is to blame.
>
> > > > Greetings, Branimir.
>
> > > ass hole.
> > > learn about the condition before you reply.
>
> > I know Marvin through usenet for years (mostly on religious groups),
> > and I know what he is talking about, cause I've been three times
> > in psychosis in last 6 years and currently
> > taking risperidone with regular visits to psychiatrist.
>
> The purpose of pills is to weaken will so you could be programmed by
> technicians to "behave". To be "normal".

Of course. My experiences under thorazine and prolixin are similar.
Thorazine takes away reasoning and prolixin takes away emotional
filters. Heh, some time ago under prolixin I felt terrible pain in the
chest so I was uncomfortable in any position. Then I realized that
my wife watches some TV soup opera where negative emotions are
expressed in extreme way. So those emotions somehow moved to
me.
Tomorrow I didn't take drugs and everything was fine.
I could watch that TV opera without emotional problems.
Under risperidone I just experience weight gain and problems
with sex.

> But in the long run, you lose natural ability to resist other people's
> thoughts, worse off than if you never took pills and only have been
> "psychotic".

Yes, control is major way things function, but will cannot be broken
that easily.

>
> I take Risperdal as well, but meds cannot cure evil spirits. That's
> spiritual reality.

Yes, only you can cure your evil spirits.
These things happened to me. It appears to me that demons, spirits,
whatever, can take control of almost anyone in any moment.
What I heard some people speak and do, convinced me in that,
especially that they can't recall their behavior afterwards.
Another thing is that those can influence *you* in same way
that they influence others with a difference that you can
be aware of that so then, freak out.
I figured out that people are more susceptible to demons influence
when eating meat for some reason.
And third, there are evil people who cooperate with such spirits,
demons, in order to achieve personal gains by controling other
people.
Couple of times I heard voices that appeared spoken by
people (or once dog which later were true. Of course I could talk
that to myself, but few times I found out what will
those people actually say in few moments after that.
That is confusing me.
That was my delusion, but psychs said that at least two
people which I had as friends are also sick but I can't
forget what some other people said directly to my face.
These were not hallucinations.
I circumvented that with love and faith
in God. Of course you have to find some person to
love, in order to learn how to love God truly.
Demons and evil persons cannot be casted out with hate,
curse or negative emotions. Swinging crosses or reading
Bible (stereotypical hollywood way) will just attract them more.
Actually you don;t have to say anything. Just feel love
to everyone including that demon or evil person.
Only thing they don;t have and *cannot stand* is *love*,
but they feed on fear, hate and negative emotions.
Without love and faith in God fear appears. Everytime you feel
fear there is lack of faith or love. That's it.
In this way I cope with my personal demons.
Hope this helps.

>
> Marv

Greetings, Branimir.