Mental illness is...

To have an intelligence, trapped,

By some defect:

Emotional, physiological, psychic, traumatic;

-- Spiritual, karmic...

....affective

The nightmare of consciousness in coma or paralysis.

This is why so many are called to try to end it

And take their own lives away. They are trapped

With little hope of changing their defect.

I am developing aphasia

And could not remember the word archetype a minute ago.

ARA

On Feb 14, 3:17 am, Gelly <Gell...@gmail.com> wrote:
> To have an intelligence, trapped,
>
> By some defect:
>
> Emotional, physiological, psychic, traumatic;
>
> -- Spiritual, karmic...
>
> ...affective
>
> The nightmare of consciousness in coma or paralysis.
>
> This is why so many are called to try to end it
>
> And take their own lives away. They are trapped
>
> With little hope of changing their defect.
>
> I am developing aphasia
>
> And could not remember the word archetype a minute ago.
>
> ARA


There's my love note. Kiss, kiss.

Gelly wrote:
> On Feb 14, 3:17 am, Gelly <Gell...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> To have an intelligence, trapped,
>>
>> By some defect:
>>
>> Emotional, physiological, psychic, traumatic;
>>
>> -- Spiritual, karmic...
>>
>> ...affective
>>
>> The nightmare of consciousness in coma or paralysis.
>>
>> This is why so many are called to try to end it
>>
>> And take their own lives away. They are trapped
>>
>> With little hope of changing their defect.
>>
>> I am developing aphasia
>>
>> And could not remember the word archetype a minute ago.

You're not defective. You can find a way to regain more of your old
self. Give it time. Since I've known you, you have changed for the
better, by yourself. Remember that your reaction is generally your
choice. I say generally, because mental illness makes it more difficult
for us, and some reactions are reflexes. Ride the waves, don't sink
from them.

>> ARA
>
>
> There's my love note. Kiss, kiss.

:-)

Be well,

George

X-No-Archive: yes

On Feb 14, 4:17 am, Gelly wrote:
<snipped>
> I am developing aphasia
>
> And could not remember the word archetype a minute ago.
>
> ARA

From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48
[gcide]:

Aphasia \A*pha"si*a\, Aphasy \Aph"a*sy\, n. [NL. aphasia, Gr. ?,
fr. ? not spoken; 'a priv. + ? to speak: cf. F. aphasie.]
(Med.)
Loss of the power of speech, or of the appropriate use of
words, the vocal organs remaining intact, and the intelligence
being preserved. It is dependent on injury or disease of the
brain.
[1913 Webster]

<chessucat defines>

Mental illness is nonconformity of genetics to tyranny.
Schizophrenia has been found to be having an abnormally large number of
links between the neurons of the brain. This has been found to be caused
by a gene called DISC1.
In Supreme Court, Robinson versus California, it was ruled that
the Eighth Amendment guarantees that you cannot be denied life or
liberty for what you are.
This is just what Ethos Inc, of Boston, Massachusetts is doing to
my cousin Al now. This kind of atrocity has always happened in
Massachusetts. Massachusetts is a dirty word.
If every neuron were connected to every other neuron, just one
neuron would wake up 100% of the brain, all ten billion neurons. So, you
can see that the more links there are, the more neurons of the brain are
awake.
LSD, muscarine, and vagal stimulation wake up more of the brain.
The hallucinations are understandable now. They are all the same place,
that has always been called the Underworld.
To justify the cruel utility of dopamine blockers it used to be
said that schizophrenia was having too much dopamine. There is a
particular sound that "spikes" dopamine,and thereby encourages the brain
to produce more and more dopamine.
We published this sound in the "Schizophrenian Manifesto",
starting in a Yahoo group called "Anything Neuroscience". Apparently
THEY don't want people knowing this sound, the "Lost Word". The truth is
out now.

Forgeting the word "archetype" might be a good thing.
Its like forgetting the word "parameters" or "Paradigm" , whats the
loss????

Damly

"Twang - twang" <damodara@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Forgeting the word "archetype" might be a good thing.
> Its like forgetting the word "parameters" or "Paradigm" , whats the
> loss????
>
> Damly
>
>

Imagine yourself forgetting the difference between G sharp and E flat. I'm
sorry if I'm betraying Gelly's confidentiality, but she told me her
education is in literature. She's a words person just like me, and I know
that, if I started having trouble finding the right word for something, I'd
be devastated.

I'd say it can read to serious morale problems unless dealt with.

Miki

Miki

On Feb 15, 9:43 am, "Dork Gently" <pogreshi...@mikikocic.com> wrote:
> "Twang - twang" <damod...@webtv.net> wrote in messagenews:17735-47B58A0E-433@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net...
>
> > Forgeting the word "archetype" might be a good thing.
> > Its like forgetting the word "parameters" or "Paradigm" , whats the
> > loss????
>
> > Damly
>
> Imagine yourself forgetting the difference between G sharp and E flat. I'm
> sorry if I'm betraying Gelly's confidentiality, but she told me her
> education is in literature. She's a words person just like me, and I know
> that, if I started having trouble finding the right word for something, I'd
> be devastated.
>
> I'd say it can read to serious morale problems unless dealt with.
>
> Miki
>
> Miki


Yeah, Miki is right. It would be just like forgetting notes on the
guitar. I like to think I will write something someday and a long time
ago I was an English Education major. Forgetting words all the time
really bothers me, it tells me something really is wrong.

It's not the medicine, for all the anti-meds people out there...

For me, meds make it better.

Well, anyway, maybe what I will write will be odd poetry and somehow
all this can add to my unique style in writing whatever I do write.
You know, Maya Angelou went through a period when she didn't talk at
all.

Still bugs me when it happens though. Happens a lot more now...

"Gelly" <Gelly.D@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:93e5e468-0b6d-4ac1-b20e-44467e7aa51f@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 15, 9:43 am, "Dork Gently" <pogreshi...@mikikocic.com> wrote:
>> "Twang - twang" <damod...@webtv.net> wrote in
>> messagenews:17735-47B58A0E-433@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net...
>>
>> > Forgeting the word "archetype" might be a good thing.
>> > Its like forgetting the word "parameters" or "Paradigm" , whats the
>> > loss????
>>
>> > Damly
>>
>> Imagine yourself forgetting the difference between G sharp and E flat.
>> I'm
>> sorry if I'm betraying Gelly's confidentiality, but she told me her
>> education is in literature. She's a words person just like me, and I know
>> that, if I started having trouble finding the right word for something,
>> I'd
>> be devastated.
>>
>> I'd say it can read to serious morale problems unless dealt with.
>>
>> Miki
>>
>> Miki
>
>
> Yeah, Miki is right. It would be just like forgetting notes on the
> guitar. I like to think I will write something someday and a long time
> ago I was an English Education major. Forgetting words all the time
> really bothers me, it tells me something really is wrong.
>
> It's not the medicine, for all the anti-meds people out there...
>
> For me, meds make it better.
>
> Well, anyway, maybe what I will write will be odd poetry and somehow
> all this can add to my unique style in writing whatever I do write.
> You know, Maya Angelou went through a period when she didn't talk at
> all.
>
> Still bugs me when it happens though. Happens a lot more now...

I think it actually *is* the meds. The symptoms of tardive dyskinesia are
similar to those of Parkinson's, and TD is well known to be a med
side-effect rather than part and parcel of schiz. Other forms of dementia
might well be side-effects of the meds as well.

I've lately had trouble with choosing the wrong word. Instead of "say no" I
wrote "say know." I only caught it on the re-read. In the past I never
needed to proof a single word I wrote in something casual like an email, but
I now have to proof my prose carefully to weed out the stupid mistakes like
that one.

I wouldn't get my hopes up too much about writing if I were you. Writers
tend to form little adolescent cliques that are very hard to break into. The
literary industry in Canada is just such a clique, and unless you're already
a member of the inner circle of Popular Kids at School, you can be shit out
of luck in terms of getting your first book published. Of course, it helps
that you're a woman and can hook some pruned-out lezzie editor by the
ovaries. Male emerging writers have it ten times as hard as women, at least
up here.

Miki

On Feb 15, 11:41 am, "Dork Gently" <pogreshi...@mikikocic.com> wrote:
> "Gelly" <Gell...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:93e5e468-0b6d-4ac1-b20e-44467e7aa51f@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Feb 15, 9:43 am, "Dork Gently" <pogreshi...@mikikocic.com> wrote:
> >> "Twang - twang" <damod...@webtv.net> wrote in
> >> messagenews:17735-47B58A0E-433@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net...
>
> >> > Forgeting the word "archetype" might be a good thing.
> >> > Its like forgetting the word "parameters" or "Paradigm" , whats the
> >> > loss????
>
> >> > Damly
>
> >> Imagine yourself forgetting the difference between G sharp and E flat.
> >> I'm
> >> sorry if I'm betraying Gelly's confidentiality, but she told me her
> >> education is in literature. She's a words person just like me, and I know
> >> that, if I started having trouble finding the right word for something,
> >> I'd
> >> be devastated.
>
> >> I'd say it can read to serious morale problems unless dealt with.
>
> >> Miki
>
> >> Miki
>
> > Yeah, Miki is right. It would be just like forgetting notes on the
> > guitar. I like to think I will write something someday and a long time
> > ago I was an English Education major. Forgetting words all the time
> > really bothers me, it tells me something really is wrong.
>
> > It's not the medicine, for all the anti-meds people out there...
>
> > For me, meds make it better.
>
> > Well, anyway, maybe what I will write will be odd poetry and somehow
> > all this can add to my unique style in writing whatever I do write.
> > You know, Maya Angelou went through a period when she didn't talk at
> > all.
>
> > Still bugs me when it happens though. Happens a lot more now...
>
> I think it actually *is* the meds. The symptoms of tardive dyskinesia are
> similar to those of Parkinson's, and TD is well known to be a med
> side-effect rather than part and parcel of schiz. Other forms of dementia
> might well be side-effects of the meds as well.
>
> I've lately had trouble with choosing the wrong word. Instead of "say no" I
> wrote "say know." I only caught it on the re-read. In the past I never
> needed to proof a single word I wrote in something casual like an email, but
> I now have to proof my prose carefully to weed out the stupid mistakes like
> that one.
>
> I wouldn't get my hopes up too much about writing if I were you. Writers
> tend to form little adolescent cliques that are very hard to break into. The
> literary industry in Canada is just such a clique, and unless you're already
> a member of the inner circle of Popular Kids at School, you can be shit out
> of luck in terms of getting your first book published. Of course, it helps
> that you're a woman and can hook some pruned-out lezzie editor by the
> ovaries. Male emerging writers have it ten times as hard as women, at least
> up here.
>
> Miki


If it's the meds then it's been a buildup of years and years of taking
them... this hasn't been a sudden thing that happened, it's just been
building.

I know what you're saying about the stupid mistakes like replacing
"no" with "know"... I am doing this kind of thing more and more often
and it bugs me. Also just misspelling words I've known since
childhood.

Maybe it is partly age too?

And depression.

It is interesting what you say about writer's cliques.

I found my expressed vocabulary was better on seroquel. Even my
pscyhologist noticed it.

penguin

<pengwin2@webtv.net> wrote in message
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>
> I found my expressed vocabulary was better on seroquel. Even my
> pscyhologist noticed it.
>
> penguin
>

What was seroquel like?

"Quiet Neighbor" <private@spamless.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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>
> <pengwin2@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:926-47B6549E-333@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net...
>>
>> I found my expressed vocabulary was better on seroquel. Even my
>> pscyhologist noticed it.
>>
>> penguin
>>
>
> What was seroquel like?
>

http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/...ll/164/1/173-a

Look at that, it maybe helps you.

"Gelly" <Gelly.D@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:3030f212-028a-49e9-91c7-d2656a61a60a@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 15, 11:41 am, "Dork Gently" <pogreshi...@mikikocic.com> wrote:
>> "Gelly" <Gell...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:93e5e468-0b6d-4ac1-b20e-44467e7aa51f@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 15, 9:43 am, "Dork Gently" <pogreshi...@mikikocic.com> wrote:
>> >> "Twang - twang" <damod...@webtv.net> wrote in
>> >> messagenews:17735-47B58A0E-433@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net...
>>
>> >> > Forgeting the word "archetype" might be a good thing.
>> >> > Its like forgetting the word "parameters" or "Paradigm" , whats the
>> >> > loss????
>>
>> >> > Damly
>>
>> >> Imagine yourself forgetting the difference between G sharp and E flat.
>> >> I'm
>> >> sorry if I'm betraying Gelly's confidentiality, but she told me her
>> >> education is in literature. She's a words person just like me, and I
>> >> know
>> >> that, if I started having trouble finding the right word for
>> >> something,
>> >> I'd
>> >> be devastated.
>>
>> >> I'd say it can read to serious morale problems unless dealt with.
>>
>> >> Miki
>>
>> >> Miki
>>
>> > Yeah, Miki is right. It would be just like forgetting notes on the
>> > guitar. I like to think I will write something someday and a long time
>> > ago I was an English Education major. Forgetting words all the time
>> > really bothers me, it tells me something really is wrong.
>>
>> > It's not the medicine, for all the anti-meds people out there...
>>
>> > For me, meds make it better.
>>
>> > Well, anyway, maybe what I will write will be odd poetry and somehow
>> > all this can add to my unique style in writing whatever I do write.
>> > You know, Maya Angelou went through a period when she didn't talk at
>> > all.
>>
>> > Still bugs me when it happens though. Happens a lot more now...
>>
>> I think it actually *is* the meds. The symptoms of tardive dyskinesia are
>> similar to those of Parkinson's, and TD is well known to be a med
>> side-effect rather than part and parcel of schiz. Other forms of dementia
>> might well be side-effects of the meds as well.
>>
>> I've lately had trouble with choosing the wrong word. Instead of "say no"
>> I
>> wrote "say know." I only caught it on the re-read. In the past I never
>> needed to proof a single word I wrote in something casual like an email,
>> but
>> I now have to proof my prose carefully to weed out the stupid mistakes
>> like
>> that one.
>>
>> I wouldn't get my hopes up too much about writing if I were you. Writers
>> tend to form little adolescent cliques that are very hard to break into.
>> The
>> literary industry in Canada is just such a clique, and unless you're
>> already
>> a member of the inner circle of Popular Kids at School, you can be shit
>> out
>> of luck in terms of getting your first book published. Of course, it
>> helps
>> that you're a woman and can hook some pruned-out lezzie editor by the
>> ovaries. Male emerging writers have it ten times as hard as women, at
>> least
>> up here.
>>
>> Miki
>
>
> If it's the meds then it's been a buildup of years and years of taking
> them... this hasn't been a sudden thing that happened, it's just been
> building.
>
> I know what you're saying about the stupid mistakes like replacing
> "no" with "know"... I am doing this kind of thing more and more often
> and it bugs me. Also just misspelling words I've known since
> childhood.
>
> Maybe it is partly age too?
>
> And depression.
>
> It is interesting what you say about writer's cliques.
>
>
>

I had the problem that i couldn´t talk properly anymore because of the meds.
It was like something wanted to stop me talking to other people. It was like
getting pain when talking.

I took seroquel at night and haldol during the day. Seroquel made me
sleepy, there was no way I could take it during the day.

I liked the haldol-seroquel combo, I had energy during the day and
motivation to go out every day for a walk or to group. A lot of people
can't take haldol due to side effects, everyone is different.

penguin