mind control

I skim read the above thread

it is impossible to say whether mind control exists or not

it is arguable that many schizophrenics have mind-control experiences
certainly, each schiziphrenic will have his or her own explanation for these
experiences
however, there will be similarities between the descriptions.

This kind of regularity between reports of mind control is suggestive, that
an identifiable phenomena is occuring
Schizophrenics may indeed be right about their expenences, and it is
possible that it is a special capacity of schizophrenics,
to be able to become aware of this phenomena

however, that it is indeed mind-control that is happening, or only an
illusion caused by mis-perception of the phenomena
it is known that the perception of schizophrenics is affect by
hallucinations
so that hallucinations could further distort the reports of schizophrenics
of this phenomena,
though, it could be that intense perceptual experience of hallucination is a
neccessary condition to be able to perceive mind-control taking place, in
the same way that shamans would take hallucinogens to enter the world of the
paranormal

-- kez

There is absolutely no such thing as mind control. You may do
something, like this complaining, and all THEY do it up the voltage of
your chip. For all intents and purposes it's no different than standing
right behind you and hitting you with a stick. But, you can still
gesture that up raised middle finger of defiance.

> it is impossible to say whether mind control exists or not

it's hard to say exactly to what extent it has been developed or
implemented.
but there is no doubt whatsoever that the potential exists.

schizophrenia proves that the brain can control a person's world.
neurofeedback proves that electrical activity in the brain can be
recorded in a computer, or that someone can play a computer game or
control a joystick with their brain.
mircowave weapons have already been used. then there are the mind
control experiments and brain programming efforts of the past. there
are new healing products out that use a scalar charge to energize
cells. we all know about gps tracking.

if you add up all the documentation and proof of separate issues like
these, and
combine them into one application, you end up with electromagnetic
(psychotronic) mind control. there has been some documentation of this
existing in russia since the 60s.

the debate would be whether a microchip is needed or whether every
unique brain can be recognized anyway. whether it can be done
wirelessly, etc. it's inevitable that some of the conclusions people
reach will have to be regarded as speculation, but it's far from
fantasy.

but in my opinion most people who claim to be victims of mind control
are not victims, they are schizophrenics.

On Mar 2, 11:52 am, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Lahunkun) wrote:
> There is absolutely no such thing as mind control. You may do
> something, like this complaining, and all THEY do it up the voltage of
> your chip. For all intents and purposes it's no different than standing
> right behind you and hitting you with a stick.

There certainly is mind control, such as that exercised on victims
paralyzed through fear abused until they are severely harmed or
killed. Such as the one that makes a raped woman comply to rapist(s).

There are also delusions of mind control in schizophrenics.

What is there in reality depends on each individual case, and the
essence of mind control is to take victim's insight away, to overblow
or underestimate the victim's perception of the extent of mind
control.

On Mar 2, 12:59 pm, "Marvin Barley" <mtodorov3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 2, 11:52 am, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Lahunkun) wrote:
>
> There is absolutely no such thing as mind control. You may do
> something, like this complaining, and all THEY do it up the voltage of
> your chip. For all intents and purposes it's no different than standing
> right behind you and hitting you with a stick.

There certainly is mind control, such as that exercised on victims
paralyzed through fear abused until they are severely harmed or
killed. Such as the one that makes a raped woman comply to rapist(s).

There are also delusions of mind control in schizophrenics.

What is there in reality depends on each individual case, and the
essence of mind control is to take victim's insight away, to overblow
or diminish the victim's perception of the extent of mind
control.

On Mar 2, 1:03 pm, "Marvin Barley" <mtodorov3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 2, 12:59 pm, "Marvin Barley" <mtodorov3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 2, 11:52 am, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Lahunkun) wrote:
>
> > There is absolutely no such thing as mind control. You may do
> > something, like this complaining, and all THEY do it up the voltage of
> > your chip. For all intents and purposes it's no different than standing
> > right behind you and hitting you with a stick.
>
> There certainly is mind control, such as that exercised on victims
> paralyzed through fear abused until they are severely harmed or
> killed. Such as the one that makes a raped woman comply to rapist(s).
>
> There are also delusions of mind control in schizophrenics.
>
> What is there in reality depends on each individual case, and the
> essence of mind control is to take victim's insight away, to overblow
> or diminish the victim's perception of the extent of mind
> control.

The control goes even deeper: heathen girls were able to cause gases
in my intestinal tract when I prayed, so they would avenge, for I have
hurt their vanity by rejecting them.

(In Islamic customs one becomes unlcean and unfit for prayer if one
blows intestinal gases.)

There is certainly such thing as a control, and the latter is the case
of perverted maternity instinct - woman is created to be man's help,
made of his rib. A rib that corrupt can do a lot of damage to the
entire organism.

"skizomatic" <osbl04@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1172836056.533750.222450@z35g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>> it is impossible to say whether mind control exists or not
>
> it's hard to say exactly to what extent it has been developed or
> implemented.
> but there is no doubt whatsoever that the potential exists.
>
> schizophrenia proves that the brain can control a person's world.
> neurofeedback proves that electrical activity in the brain can be
> recorded in a computer, or that someone can play a computer game or
> control a joystick with their brain.
> mircowave weapons have already been used. then there are the mind
> control experiments and brain programming efforts of the past. there
> are new healing products out that use a scalar charge to energize
> cells. we all know about gps tracking.
>
> if you add up all the documentation and proof of separate issues like
> these, and
> combine them into one application, you end up with electromagnetic
> (psychotronic) mind control. there has been some documentation of this
> existing in russia since the 60s.
>
> the debate would be whether a microchip is needed or whether every
> unique brain can be recognized anyway. whether it can be done
> wirelessly, etc. it's inevitable that some of the conclusions people
> reach will have to be regarded as speculation, but it's far from
> fantasy.
>
> but in my opinion most people who claim to be victims of mind control
> are not victims, they are schizophrenics.

Mind control has been part of popular culture since the mid 19th century,
long before any of this technology existed.

One form was called mesmirism, which is the more general category thast
includes hypnosis, but there were other forms studied, particularly by
occultists

so, it is true that mind control exists independently of this technology
the existance of the technology suggests that it is physics not magic at
work here
or perhaps that there is a physics of magic

-- kez

Nature has a true will. Everything is trying to run down. This is
the second law of thermodynamics. It can be seen as the attraction and
cancellation of opposite polarities. Yes, if this true will is fought
the rape victim will be conformed to this law of nature. She will be
forced to yield her polairites to the second law of thermdynamics. But,
the rapist need not allow himself to be broken by the criminal justice
system, or anyone in the world, for he is in conformity with the law of
nature.
If you want anything better you will have to appeal to the
supernatural, Christ. Then, Christ can overcome nature, and with Christ
there is no such thing as mind control or brain washing. Only Christ
will triumph.

You're right Ralph. There was a book writen called "Numbers in the
Bible". The author had taken sums of the Hebrew and Greek values of
their letters and found that all verses pertaining to rebellion were 13
and all pertaining to righteousness were 8. He didn't say that 13 is
more than 8. And look what we have here. We have a srong suggestion of
the Fibonacci Series which ultimately comes to a proportion of
ø=1.61803398...
If you merge two circles enough so that their two diameters join
at a right angle, this represents flat timespace. Orthogonality, right
angles, maintain the rigid solidity found in flat timespace, where I am
unfortunately trapped right now. The diameters of these circles
represent centrifugal force. If you now draw lines from the
circumferences of the circles at the ends of the diameters, through the
centers of the circles to the other circumferences of the circles, that
line will be 1.61803398... times the length of the diameter. This
represents centripetal force. The centripetal, natural, attracting,
running down force is as 13 to the centrifugal finicky inclination which
is as 8. Eight to thirteen would be 1.625 but the actual advantage is
only 1.61803398.. times inhibition.
In the world, the 8 person, the girl who doen't want to yield her
polartities, will be vanquished by the 13 person, the person who is
trying to force his polarities on (in) her and take her polarities in
exchange. The 13 person, the person who wants to cancel out his
polarities with her polarities, will not be broken by an 8
establishment, who would try to prevent or punish the union of opposite
polarities, which is the supreme law of nature. The 8 establishemnt wont
allow death, so the 8 establishemnt lists 13 type people on bills of
attainder, often ex post facto.
For any power against nature you have to go beyond nature to
Christ. Only in Christ is there victory.