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Old 07-17-2008, 12:56 PM
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hello all. i had cognitive impairment in 2003 to 2004. got better in
2005, then got worse in 2006, in 2007 it improves a lot until 2008
where it got much worse. one neurologist diagnose me as prodormal
schizophrenia, however i ve never had hallicunations. another
neurologist said its chemical imbalance.

right now i am looking at chemical imbalance. is it possible to have
schizoprenia from 2003 with relapses, without hallicunations? my head
feels heavy, so my guess is some neurotransmitter could be firing too
much. what kind of neurotransmitters are involved in learning, whereby
the excess amount of it can cause these problems?

i dont feel depressed, could i still have depression?

dontwishmeluck
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:13 PM
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What do you mean by cognitive impairment?

Has anyone accused you of being delusional?


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Old 07-18-2008, 06:44 AM
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On Jul 18, 5:30 am, "Quiet Neighbor" <priv...@spamless.net> wrote:
> What do you mean by cognitive impairment?
>
> Has anyone accused you of being delusional?


when people talk to me, i need to repeat it few times so the meaning
registers in my head. when i talk, i stutter because i must find the
right word. simple conversation has become a challenge for me. have
trouble remembring anything that has happen, even recently. i dont
have delusions.
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Old 07-18-2008, 02:41 PM
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Acetylcholine. Dopamine blockers do no good whatsoever. Dopamine
doesn't cause hallucinations or extra brain use. Dopamine blockers were
only used to devastate victims into compliance, the dopamine blocker
industry flourished, and THEY are trying to force them on everybody to
maintain profits.
Blocking acetylcholine weakens and finally paralyzes the voluntary
muscles. Glutamate is capable of waking up over 80% of the brain so that
glutamate blockers help, and glutamate blockers are pleasant.

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Old 07-18-2008, 02:41 PM
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On Jul 18, 5:50 pm, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:
> Acetylcholine. Dopamine blockers do no good whatsoever. Dopamine
> doesn't cause hallucinations or extra brain use. Dopamine blockers were
> only used to devastate victims into compliance, the dopamine blocker
> industry flourished, and THEY are trying to force them on everybody to
> maintain profits.
> Blocking acetylcholine weakens and finally paralyzes the voluntary
> muscles. Glutamate is capable of waking up over 80% of the brain so that
> glutamate blockers help, and glutamate blockers are pleasant.


what do you mean? i try taking lecithin, a cholinergic supplement, but
it doesnt seem to work.but i ll continue taking it as excess
acetylcholine is not bad right? if my acetycholine is decreasing, does
it mean i should be having voluntary muscles problem? i dont have
that. pshyically i feel fine. about glutamate, can you have too little
of it? if so , wouldnt glutamate blockers make it worse? i understand
that glutamate is the most common neurotransmitter we have in the
brain. can having too much glutamate be associate with cognitive
impairment?
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Old 07-18-2008, 02:41 PM
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On Jul 18, 5:50 pm, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:
> Acetylcholine. Dopamine blockers do no good whatsoever. Dopamine
> doesn't cause hallucinations or extra brain use. Dopamine blockers were
> only used to devastate victims into compliance, the dopamine blocker
> industry flourished, and THEY are trying to force them on everybody to
> maintain profits.
> Blocking acetylcholine weakens and finally paralyzes the voluntary
> muscles. Glutamate is capable of waking up over 80% of the brain so that
> glutamate blockers help, and glutamate blockers are pleasant.


wait. did you mean i should add more acetycholine , or having too much
or too little of it could be causing such symptoms?
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Old 07-18-2008, 02:41 PM
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It depends whether the brain can use the extra acetylcholine. It
is awakening the cholinergic nerves that awakens more of the brain.
With the extra axons and dendrites real schizophrenics have the
brain is already "overawakened". The body will synthesize the
acetylcholine it wants without anyone adding extra.
The body can always provide glutamate. Glutamate is esterfied
glutamic acid, one of the 20 amino acids produced by the DNA-RNA system.
Glutamate is ubiquious in the body, It's in hair, saliva, mucus, urine,
feces, and in everything animal and vegetable.
But, drugs that block glutamate or help the GABA system block
glutamate, in excess, will get you drunk, stoned out of your gourd. Any
problem there? But it's a two way trip.

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Old 07-18-2008, 02:41 PM
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On Jul 18, 7:27 pm, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:
> It depends whether the brain can use the extra acetylcholine. It
> is awakening the cholinergic nerves that awakens more of the brain.
> With the extra axons and dendrites real schizophrenics have the
> brain is already "overawakened". The body will synthesize the
> acetylcholine it wants without anyone adding extra.
> The body can always provide glutamate. Glutamate is esterfied
> glutamic acid, one of the 20 amino acids produced by the DNA-RNA system.
> Glutamate is ubiquious in the body, It's in hair, saliva, mucus, urine,
> feces, and in everything animal and vegetable.
> But, drugs that block glutamate or help the GABA system block
> glutamate, in excess, will get you drunk, stoned out of your gourd. Any
> problem there? But it's a two way trip.


i dont quite understand what you mean. my question is , could excess
glutamate be causing these problems? what other neurotransmitter are
involved in cognition? what are the use of drugs that blocks
glutamate? and how to awaken the cholinergic nerves?
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Old 07-18-2008, 03:35 PM
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<dontwishmeluck@hushmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 18, 5:30 am, "Quiet Neighbor" <priv...@spamless.net> wrote:
>> What do you mean by cognitive impairment?
>>
>> Has anyone accused you of being delusional?

>
> when people talk to me, i need to repeat it few times so the meaning
> registers in my head. when i talk, i stutter because i must find the
> right word. simple conversation has become a challenge for me. have
> trouble remembring anything that has happen, even recently. i dont
> have delusions.


I am sorry to hear about your problem.

In my opinion you do not have schizophrenia, and you are not in the early
stages of developing schizophrenia. Your doctor is an ass.

Get a new doctor.



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Old 07-18-2008, 05:36 PM
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On Jul 18, 12:06*pm, dontwishmel...@hushmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 18, 5:50 pm, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:
>
> > * * * Acetylcholine. Dopamine blockers do no good whatsoever. Dopamine
> > doesn't cause hallucinations or extra brain use. Dopamine blockers were
> > only used to devastate victims into compliance, the dopamine blocker
> > industry flourished, and THEY are trying to force them on everybody to
> > maintain profits.
> > * * * Blocking acetylcholine weakens and finally paralyzes the voluntary
> > muscles. Glutamate is capable of waking up over 80% of the brain so that
> > glutamate blockers help, and glutamate blockers are pleasant.

>
> what do you mean? i try taking lecithin, a cholinergic supplement, but
> it doesnt seem to work.but i ll continue taking it as excess
> acetylcholine is not bad right? if my acetycholine is decreasing, does
> it mean i should be having voluntary muscles problem? i dont have
> that. pshyically i feel fine. about glutamate, can you have too little
> of it? if so , wouldnt glutamate blockers make it worse? i understand
> that glutamate is the most common neurotransmitter we have in the
> brain. can having too much glutamate be associate with cognitive
> impairment?



I don't think Acetylcholine can build up excessively. Besides, taking
only lecithin won't be enough to increase Acetylcholine, you probably
should add 500mg Choline and DMAE.

I would try to supplement at least 1000mg of EPA a day. That means EPA
not Omega-3, because 1000mg Fish Oil contain only about 150-200mg EPA.

If you have the money go for pure EPA, but it's quite expensive.
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Old 07-18-2008, 08:26 PM
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Excess glutamate causes big problems. It causes "voices",
hallucinations, delusions, and sensitivity to pain. Glutamate is also a
pain nerve neurotransmitter.
Glutamate is directly blocked by Campral (acamprosate); and,
Neurontin (gabapentin) helps the GABA (gamma-aminobutyricacid) system
block glutamate.
It is said that Campral is to lessen the cravings of alcoholics,
but, Campral would be a true antipsychotic drug. So far, there has never
been a real antipsychotic drug.
Blocking excess glutamate is so important that we are born with a
natural glutamate blocker, GABA (gamma-aminobutyricacid). Booze destroys
the GABA system.
Children who had mothers who drank booze during pregnancy are
given Campral today, to compensate for thier damaged GABA systems.
How many young people were tagged "schizophrenic", when they
actually had damaged GABA systems, or scar tissue irritating their
muscarinic nerves (Shamans' Disease), or any number of syndromes that
were never real schizophrenia?
Real schizophrenia has been found to be having too many axons and
dendrites between the neurons of the brain. Even the gene, called DISC1,
was found to be the cause. But, the dopamine blocker industry is bribing
anyone, even magazines like Discover Magazine, to cover up this
discovery.
Winning the war for freedom from torturous dopamine blockers is a
matter of spreading this information.

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Old 07-18-2008, 08:26 PM
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Quiet Neighbor warned:
QN>I am sorry to hear about your problem.
QN>In my opinion you do not have schizophrenia, and you are not in the early
QN>stages of developing schizophrenia. Your doctor is an ass.
QN>Get a new doctor.

Don't be schizophrenic! Pretend that you are normal, it make life easier.

<chesucat twitches>

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Old 07-18-2008, 09:35 PM
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"chesucat" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Quiet Neighbor warned:
> QN>I am sorry to hear about your problem.
> QN>In my opinion you do not have schizophrenia, and you are not in the
> early
> QN>stages of developing schizophrenia. Your doctor is an ass.
> QN>Get a new doctor.
>
> Don't be schizophrenic! Pretend that you are normal, it make life easier.
>
> <chesucat twitches>
>



Agreed.


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Old 07-19-2008, 05:45 PM
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:06:02 -0700 (PDT), in alt.support.schizophrenia
dontwishmeluck@hushmail.com wrote:

>On Jul 18, 5:30 am, "Quiet Neighbor" <priv...@spamless.net> wrote:
>> What do you mean by cognitive impairment?
>>
>> Has anyone accused you of being delusional?

>
>when people talk to me, i need to repeat it few times so the meaning
>registers in my head. when i talk, i stutter because i must find the
>right word. simple conversation has become a challenge for me. have
>trouble remembring anything that has happen, even recently. i dont
>have delusions.



Sounds like you have had ECT "treatment"
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Old 07-19-2008, 05:45 PM
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On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:55:14 -0700 (PDT), in alt.support.schizophrenia
dontwishmeluck@hushmail.com wrote:

>On Jul 18, 7:27 pm, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:
>> It depends whether the brain can use the extra acetylcholine. It
>> is awakening the cholinergic nerves that awakens more of the brain.
>> With the extra axons and dendrites real schizophrenics have the
>> brain is already "overawakened". The body will synthesize the
>> acetylcholine it wants without anyone adding extra.
>> The body can always provide glutamate. Glutamate is esterfied
>> glutamic acid, one of the 20 amino acids produced by the DNA-RNA system.
>> Glutamate is ubiquious in the body, It's in hair, saliva, mucus, urine,
>> feces, and in everything animal and vegetable.
>> But, drugs that block glutamate or help the GABA system block
>> glutamate, in excess, will get you drunk, stoned out of your gourd. Any
>> problem there? But it's a two way trip.

>
>i dont quite understand what you mean. my question is , could excess
>glutamate be causing these problems? what other neurotransmitter are
>involved in cognition? what are the use of drugs that blocks
>glutamate? and how to awaken the cholinergic nerves?



MSG gives me a headache. If I take a Glutamate blocker will I be able to eat
Chinese food again?
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Old 07-19-2008, 05:45 PM
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On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:13:53 -0400, in alt.support.schizophrenia
gellie618@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:

> Excess glutamate causes big problems. It causes "voices",
>hallucinations, delusions, and sensitivity to pain. Glutamate is also a
>pain nerve neurotransmitter.
> Glutamate is directly blocked by Campral (acamprosate); and,
>Neurontin (gabapentin) helps the GABA (gamma-aminobutyricacid) system
>block glutamate.
> It is said that Campral is to lessen the cravings of alcoholics,
>but, Campral would be a true antipsychotic drug. So far, there has never
>been a real antipsychotic drug.
> Blocking excess glutamate is so important that we are born with a
>natural glutamate blocker, GABA (gamma-aminobutyricacid). Booze destroys
>the GABA system.
> Children who had mothers who drank booze during pregnancy are
>given Campral today, to compensate for thier damaged GABA systems.
> How many young people were tagged "schizophrenic", when they
>actually had damaged GABA systems, or scar tissue irritating their
>muscarinic nerves (Shamans' Disease), or any number of syndromes that
>were never real schizophrenia?
> Real schizophrenia has been found to be having too many axons and
>dendrites between the neurons of the brain. Even the gene, called DISC1,
>was found to be the cause. But, the dopamine blocker industry is bribing
>anyone, even magazines like Discover Magazine, to cover up this
>discovery.
> Winning the war for freedom from torturous dopamine blockers is a
>matter of spreading this information.


There is no such thing at schizophrenia.

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Old 07-20-2008, 01:44 PM
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The artificially synthesized word "schizophrenia" is simply Greek
for "scatter brained". Take an insult, put it in Greek, and you have a
medical/legal weapon.
Also, characteristics suggest that all the great geniuses, like
Leonardo Da Vinci, etc., were using more than the "normal" 10% of their
brains, and that they must have had that DISC1 gene to do that the way
they did.
Mono Sodium Glutamate suggests that we must have plenty of our own
Mono Sodium Glutamate. Glutamate, also being a pain neurotransmitter,
has been shown to facilitate migraine headaches. By blocking glutamate
enough we should be able to cure all such pain.
MSG is also in canned soups, frozen dinners, barbacue sauce, and a
whole load of other common foods.
The first neurotransmitter that was discovered was "substance P".
Capsicin, the hotness in hot peppers, is an analogue of substance P.
Capsicin doesn't fit the pain nerve's receptor site quite right such
that it kills the pain nerve. But, those pain nerves grow back.
Aspertame is another very common molecule found naturally in the
body. Aspertame happens in the human body from the mixture of the common
amino acids aspartic acid and phenylalanine.
There is no special aspertame creating systhesis system in the
body, but, aspertame just happens from the break down of proteins.
"Aspertame happens" and "MSG happens" in the human body.
It is said that, "He who creates the definitions has the power".
Just take a big dictionary of ancient Greek, put what you want to say
together, look up the Greek for it, and there, you have your own self
created definitions, which will be very influential, if you can spread
them far enough.
People have been tremendously brain washed to find the correct
names for things. Even little kids starting hobies of nature study are
obsessive about finding the "correct" name for a plant or animal.
Did you ever think of making up your own names for things,
especially if you can't find the given names for them, so that you have
"handles" for them, at least for your own records?
And, in keeping records, it is best to use a code, another form of
writing, at least for privacy. Omniglot and the Unicode Consortium
provide good codes on the internet.
Also, by developing optimum techniques of selfcommunication, one
develops other ways of thinking which override the blocking of knowledge
that has been engineered by the monitors of the common language.
Then you may translate your discoveries to influence your social
environment any way you want. And, be the power by YOU creating the
definitions.
Universal sets show what is missing. For example, take a universal
set of colors: white, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, black.
Now take a universal set of flavors to cross correspond with these:
white, pineapple; red, cherry; orange, orange; yellow, lemon; green,
lime; blue; ? (back to that later); purple, grape; and black, licorice.
Before we complained in the 1970's, there was no blue (blueberry)
candies. A mystical secret society suppressed anything that would
suggest a very efficient yoga technique of mechanical muscarinic
stimulation, lest too many people awaken too much of their brains. There
may be too many "schizophrenics". THEY couldn't force dopamine blockers
on a ruling majority.
But for the same secret society we would have licorice soda,
licorice syrup, licorice ice cream, and licorice chips in cookies, etc.,
but, licorice is synesthetically onomatopoeic with THEIR "Lost Word".
Put "the Lost Word" in the search slot of
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alchemy61/ and click for more forbidden
information.
Also, by establishing cross correspondence systems in your brain
you will thwart the new MRI lie detectors. THEY assume (you know the
dittie about "assume"?) that a person telling the truth will only light
up one little part of the brain when telling the truth; and, THEY assume
that a liar will light up many parts of the brain when telling a lie.
By just having established any universal cross correspondnece
system in your brain you will always light up many parts of your brain,
truth or falsehood. You can then say, "Everything I say is a lie, which
means that even my saying everything I say is a lie, is a lie". That is
called a "strange loop". See Douglas Hofsteadter's "Godel, Escher, Bach"
and "I Am A Strange Loop".


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Old 07-20-2008, 04:14 PM
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:02:26 -0400, in alt.support.schizophrenia
gellie618@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:

> Mono Sodium Glutamate suggests that we must have plenty of our own
>Mono Sodium Glutamate. Glutamate, also being a pain neurotransmitter,
>has been shown to facilitate migraine headaches. By blocking glutamate
>enough we should be able to cure all such pain.
> MSG is also in canned soups, frozen dinners, barbacue sauce, and a
>whole load of other common foods.



In the USA they can legally call it "natural flavor" on ingredients labels so I
can not eat anything that has "natural flavors" for fear of getting a three day
long headache.
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Old 07-20-2008, 09:56 PM
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And, I cannot, and will not, bow to Islam. If I lower my head
lower than my waistline I get a migraine headache. Bowing to Mecca in
the way that Moslems are required to bow to Mecca would give me a
perpetual headache.
Also, I am hypoglycemic. Moslems are required to fast from the
first glimmer of day until after sunset during Ramadan. Moslems are not
even allowed to drink water, or any fluid, during that time. That would
turn my hypoglycemia into diabetes, and give me a perpetual headache.
During the colonial period, when Algeria, Morroco, and Syria were
owned by France, and Iraq was a Brittish colony, etc., we thought
Islamic tyranny was gone forever. Moslems had threatened Europe in the
Medieval times. Islam was trouble from the start. But look, Islamic
tyranny is back, worse than ever.
It is said that the problem actually started with Ishmael, the
illigitimate son of Abraham. All the descendants of Ismael have been a
nasty disease on the face of the Earth. These Ishmaelites could end all
advanced life on earth with their nuclear weapons. America should do all
it can to defend Liberty from Islam; but, Barak Obama certainly isn't
the answer!
Barak Obama is actually a Moslem. He was brainwashed from infancy
in Islamic schools. He now pretends to be a Christian convert to get
into power so he can force Islam on the American people, and cause me a
perpetual headache.

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