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Old 07-13-2008, 01:39 AM
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Psychiatric Group Faces Scrutiny Over Drug Industry Ties
By BENEDICT CAREY and GARDINER HARRIS
It seemed an ideal marriage, a scientific partnership that would attack mental
illness from all sides. Psychiatrists would bring to the union their expertise
and clinical experience, drug makers would provide their products and the money
to run rigorous studies, and patients would get better medications, faster.

But now the profession itself is under attack in Congress, accused of allowing
this relationship to become too cozy. After a series of stinging investigations
of individual doctors' arrangements with drug makers, Senator Charles E.
Grassley, Republican of Iowa, is demanding that the American Psychiatric
Association, the field's premier professional organization, give an accounting
of its financing.

The association is the voice of establishment psychiatry, publishing the field's
major journals and its standard diagnostic manual.

"I have come to understand that money from the pharmaceutical industry can shape
the practices of nonprofit organizations that purport to be independent in their
viewpoints and actions," Mr. Grassley said Thursday in a letter to the
association.

In 2006, the latest year for which numbers are available, the drug industry
accounted for about 30 percent of the association's $62.5 million in financing.
About half of that money went to drug advertisements in psychiatric journals and
exhibits at the annual meeting, and the other half to sponsor fellowships,
conferences and industry symposiums at the annual meeting.

This weekend in Chicago, the psychiatry association's board will meet behind
closed doors, in part to discuss how to respond to the increasingly intense
scrutiny and questions about conflicts of interest.

"With every new revelation, our credibility with patients has been damaged, and
we have to protect that first and foremost," said Dr. Steven S. Sharfstein, a
former president of the association and now president of the Sheppard Pratt
Health System in Baltimore. "I think we need to review all arrangements between
doctors and industry and be very clear about what constitutes a conflict of
interest and what does not."

One of the doctors named by Mr. Grassley is the association's president-elect,
Dr. Alan F. Schatzberg of Stanford, whose $4.8 million stock holdings in a drug
development company raised the senator's concern. In a telephone interview, Dr.
Schatzberg said he had fully complied with Stanford's rigorous disclosure
policies and federal guidelines that pertained to his research.

Blocking or constraining researchers from trying to bring medications to market
"will mean less opportunities to help patients with severe illnesses," Dr.
Schatzberg said, adding, "Drugs that are helpful may not be developed by big
pharmaceutical companies, for a variety of reasons, and we need some degree of
communication between academia and industry" to expand options for patients.

Commercial arrangements are rampant throughout medicine. In the past two
decades, drug and device makers have paid tens of thousands of doctors and
researchers of all specialties. Worried that this money could taint doctors'
research plans or clinical judgment, government agencies, medical journals and
universities have been forced to look more closely at deal details.

In psychiatry, Mr. Grassley has found an orchard of low-hanging fruit. As a
group, psychiatrists earn less in base salary than any other specialists,
according to a nationwide survey by the Medical Group Management Association. In
2007, median compensation for psychiatrists was $198,653, less than half of the
$464,420 earned by diagnostic radiologists and barely more than the $190,547
earned by doctors practicing internal medicine.

But many psychiatrists supplement this income with consulting arrangements with
drug makers, traveling the country to give dinner talks about drugs to other
doctors for fees generally ranging from $750 to $3,500 per event, for instance.

While data on industry consulting arrangements are sparse, state officials in
Vermont reported that in the 2007 fiscal year, drug makers gave more money to
psychiatrists than to doctors in any other specialty. Eleven psychiatrists in
the state received an average of $56,944 each. Data from Minnesota, among the
few other states to collect such information, show a similar trend.

In both states, individual psychiatrists are not top earners, but consulting
arrangements are so common that their total tops all others. The worry is that
this money may subtly alter psychiatrists' choices of which drugs to prescribe.

An analysis of Minnesota data by The New York Times last year found that on
average, psychiatrists who received at least $5,000 from makers of
newer-generation antipsychotic drugs appear to have written three times as many
prescriptions to children for the drugs as psychiatrists who received less money
or none. The drugs are not approved for most uses in children, who appear to be
especially susceptible to the side effects, including rapid weight gain.

Senator Grassley's investigations have not only detailed how lucrative those
arrangements can be but have also shown that some top psychiatrists failed to
report all their earnings as required.

After The Times reported on such an arrangement involving Dr. Melissa P.
DelBello of the University of Cincinnati, Mr. Grassley asked the university to
provide her income disclosure forms and asked AstraZeneca, the maker of the
antipsychotic Seroquel, to reveal how much it paid her.

In scientific publications, Dr. DelBello has reported working for eight drug
makers and told university officials that from 2005 to 2007 she earned about
$100,000 in outside income, according to Mr. Grassley.

But AstraZeneca told Mr. Grassley it paid her more than $238,000 in that period.
AstraZeneca sent some of its payments through MSZ Associates, an Ohio
corporation Dr. DelBello established for "personal financial purposes."

The University of Cincinnati agreed to monitor those payments more closely.

In early June, the senator reported to Congress that Dr. Joseph Biederman, a
renowned child psychiatrist at Harvard Medical School, and a colleague, Dr.
Timothy E. Wilens, had reported to university officials earning several hundred
thousand dollars apiece in consulting fees from drug makers from 2000 to 2007
when in fact they had earned at least $1.6 million each.

Another member of the Harvard group, Dr. Thomas Spencer, reported earning at
least $1 million after being pressed by Mr. Grassley's investigators. The
Harvard psychiatrists said they took conflict-of-interest policies seriously and
had abided by disclosure rules.

In late June, after Mr. Grassley singled out Dr. Schatzberg, Stanford disputed
some of the numbers in the report and has denied that Dr. Schatzberg violated
any research rules devised to police such conflicts.

In an interview on Wednesday, Dr. Nada L. Stotland, president of the psychiatric
association, said the group had studied Mr. Grassley's letter and Stanford's
response and agreed with Stanford. Dr. Schatzberg will take over as president of
the association as planned, she said.

"The larger issue here is that there's a revolution going on" in how medicine
handles industry money, said Dr. Stotland, a psychiatrist at Rush Medical
College in Chicago. "That's good, that's what we need, and I believe we've been
on the cutting edge of that revolution in many ways."

Dr. Stotland said that the association began reviewing the income it received
from pharmaceutical companies last March, to identify potential conflicts.
Doctors and academic researchers generally worked at arm's length from industry
until the early 1980s, when Congress passed the Bayh-Dole Act. This legislation
encouraged closer collaboration between researchers and industry to bring
products to market more quickly. The act helped foster the growth of the biotech
industry, and soon professors and universities were busy obtaining patents and
building relationships with industry.

Some psychiatrists have long argued that consulting with a company - to help
design a rigorous drug trial, for instance - benefits patients, as long as the
researcher has no financial stake in the product and is not paid to speak about
the drug to other doctors, like a traveling pitchman.

Others say industry and academic researchers are now so deeply intertwined that
exposing doctors' private arrangements only stokes suspicion without correcting
the real problem: bias.

"Having everyone stand up like a Boy Scout and make a pledge isn't going to
quell suspicion," said Dr. Donald Klein, an emeritus professor at Columbia, who
has consulted with drug makers himself. "The only hope to rule out bias is to
have open access to all data that's produced in studies and know that there are
people checking it" who are not on that company's payroll.

Studies have shown that researchers who are paid by a company are more likely to
report positive findings when evaluating that company's drugs. The private deals
can directly affect patient care, said Dr. William Niederhut, a psychiatrist in
private practice in Denver who receives no industry money.

Dr. Niederhut said company-sponsored doctors had spread the word that new and
expensive drugs were better in treating bipolar disorder than lithium, the
cheaper old standby treatment.

"It's a sales pitch, and now it's looking like a whole lot of people would have
done better if they'd started on lithium in the first place," Dr. Niederhut said
in a telephone interview. "The profession absolutely has to come clean on these
industry deals, and soon."

Tighter rules, stronger statements and more debate may not make much difference,
if Mr. Grassley's findings are any guide. Universities have rules requiring that
faculty members disclose their outside income so that conflicts of interest in
research or patient care can be managed. But some of the psychiatrists named in
the investigations apparently ignored the rules.

"I think we may be coming to a point where hospitals and medical schools have to
get serious about sanctioning," said Dr. Paul S. Appelbaum, director of the
division of psychiatry, medicine and the law at Columbia. "You can suspend
doctors' privileges, or suspend their right to treat patients; both have a huge
impact on income and career. But if you're serious about these disclosure
policies, you have to be willing to back them up."

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Old 07-13-2008, 01:22 PM
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Are you a Scientologist?
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Old 07-13-2008, 01:22 PM
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We see here where loyalties lie. We don't need the Scientologists
to fight the psychiatric- dopamine blocker conspiracy. Fundamentalist
Christian ministers see psychiatry to be a Satanic institution.
A copy has been sent to the concerned Yahoo groups with a comment.

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Old 07-13-2008, 07:26 PM
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:00:22 -0400, in alt.support.schizophrenia
gellie618@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:

> We see here where loyalties lie. We don't need the Scientologists
>to fight the psychiatric- dopamine blocker conspiracy. Fundamentalist
>Christian ministers see psychiatry to be a Satanic institution.
> A copy has been sent to the concerned Yahoo groups with a comment.



I don't know if we should be happy or sad that the scientologists are on our
side. Their issue seems to be that psychiatry denies that there is a soul.

No I'm not a scientologist and I don't like being asked that simply because I
posted a message about doctor kickbacks. It gets old. I am a pagan. I light
fires and dance around them on the solstice and I like to stand naked on the top
of mountain summits but I' m not sure that has anything to do with being a pagan
it's just good fun.
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Old 07-13-2008, 09:22 PM
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On Jul 13, 1:21 pm, socialsecurity@statepatrolspies wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:00:22 -0400, in alt.support.schizophrenia
>
> gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:
> > We see here where loyalties lie. We don't need the Scientologists
> >to fight the psychiatric- dopamine blocker conspiracy. Fundamentalist
> >Christian ministers see psychiatry to be a Satanic institution.
> > A copy has been sent to the concerned Yahoo groups with a comment.

>
> I don't know if we should be happy or sad that the scientologists are on our
> side. Their issue seems to be that psychiatry denies that there is a soul.
>
> No I'm not a scientologist and I don't like being asked that simply because I
> posted a message about doctor kickbacks.


You can't understand how much difference drugs can make unless you're
one of the people they've helped. Since you don't have an alternative
to drugs, it makes me angry when you criticize people who are trying
to help sick people.
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Old 07-14-2008, 12:01 AM
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:23:22 -0700 (PDT), in alt.support.schizophrenia Pies de
Arcilla <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Jul 13, 1:21 pm, socialsecurity@statepatrolspies wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:00:22 -0400, in alt.support.schizophrenia
>>
>> gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Albert o) wrote:
>> > We see here where loyalties lie. We don't need the Scientifically
>> >to fight the psychiatric- dopamine blocker conspiracy. Fundamentalist
>> >Christian ministers see psychiatry to be a Satanic institution.
>> > A copy has been sent to the concerned Yahoo groups with a comment.

>>
>> I don't know if we should be happy or sad that the scientifically are on our
>> side. Their issue seems to be that psychiatry denies that there is a soul.
>>
>> No I'm not a scientology and I don't like being asked that simply because I
>> posted a message about doctor kickbacks.

>
>You can't understand how much difference drugs can make unless you're
>one of the people they've helped. Since you don't have an alternative
>to drugs, it makes me angry when you criticize people who are trying
>to help sick people.



No one critized anyone. I simlply posted an article about doctor kick backs.
By all means keep taking your drugz if that is what works for you.
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Old 07-14-2008, 12:01 AM
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Dopamine blockers caused me nothing but unbearable misery. They
were forced on me against my will many times in the past. When I was
under them I thought of nothing but suicide, but, everything else in my
life was going good.
Today every psychiatrist tries to convince you to take dopamine
blockers, but, downright forcing can't be done everwhere anymore.
Psychiatrists, psychiatric nurses, and anyone who has forced or
tricked anyone to take dopamine blockers will get all the suffering back
that they have caused.
That's what Jesus meant when He said, "What you measure out to
others will be measured out to you". It's generally called the Law of
Karma.
It's based on the fact that in the one substance, E=Mc˛, motion
can only be in closed circuitry, that there be something to move out of
the way and fill in behind. It is mechanical fact! I don't just believe
in it, I know it! I was a veterinary nurse who loved and cared for
animals, but, those poor little animals didn't want treatment; and,
later I got all my Karma back for it.
What? These quacks' feelings might get hurt if I protest? They're
getting back far worse than that! I can take a little Karma back from
telling such stupid people off, but, I'll never be stupid again to be
such as a psychiatrist, psychiatric nurse, screw, or cop. Forget it, it
ain't worth it.
Since God can do anything He can prevent bad Karma from coming
back to His special people. But, my Karma is still coming back.


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Old 07-14-2008, 01:11 PM
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On Jul 13, 11:45 pm, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:
> Dopamine blockers caused me nothing but unbearable misery. They
> were forced on me against my will many times in the past. When I was
> under them I thought of nothing but suicide, but, everything else in my
> life was going good.
> Today every psychiatrist tries to convince you to take dopamine
> blockers, but, downright forcing can't be done everwhere anymore.
> Psychiatrists, psychiatric nurses, and anyone who has forced or
> tricked anyone to take dopamine blockers will get all the suffering back
> that they have caused.
> That's what Jesus meant when He said, "What you measure out to
> others will be measured out to you". It's generally called the Law of
> Karma.
> It's based on the fact that in the one substance, E=Mc˛, motion
> can only be in closed circuitry, that there be something to move out of
> the way and fill in behind. It is mechanical fact! I don't just believe
> in it, I know it! I was a veterinary nurse who loved and cared for
> animals, but, those poor little animals didn't want treatment; and,
> later I got all my Karma back for it.
> What? These quacks' feelings might get hurt if I protest? They're
> getting back far worse than that! I can take a little Karma back from
> telling such stupid people off, but, I'll never be stupid again to be
> such as a psychiatrist, psychiatric nurse, screw, or cop. Forget it, it
> ain't worth it.
> Since God can do anything He can prevent bad Karma from coming
> back to His special people. But, my Karma is still coming back.


I tried to break free from Risperdal + Seroquel cocktail, but I was
forced to go back after a week due to increased sensitivity to
harassment.
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Old 07-14-2008, 06:04 PM
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On Jul 13, 4:23*pm, Pies de Arcilla threatened:
>
> You can't understand how much difference drugs can make unless you're
> one of the people they've helped. Since you don't have an alternative
> to drugs, it makes me angry when you criticize people who are trying
> to help sick people.


You GAWDAMN PUSSNUTTED WHORE, SLUT BITCH!!! Fuck you and your drugs!
You want to go around and control people, deny their very essence of a
soul!

You are a gawdamn pdoc trying to drug people into the State's idea of
submissive complacent obedience!:-(

<chessucat hisses and spits>
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:51:18 -0700 (PDT), in alt.support.schizophrenia Marvin
Barley <mtodorov3_69@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Jul 13, 11:45 pm, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:
>> Dopamine blockers caused me nothing but unbearable misery. They
>> were forced on me against my will many times in the past. When I was
>> under them I thought of nothing but suicide, but, everything else in my
>> life was going good.
>> Today every psychiatrist tries to convince you to take dopamine
>> blockers, but, downright forcing can't be done everwhere anymore.
>> Psychiatrists, psychiatric nurses, and anyone who has forced or
>> tricked anyone to take dopamine blockers will get all the suffering back
>> that they have caused.
>> That's what Jesus meant when He said, "What you measure out to
>> others will be measured out to you". It's generally called the Law of
>> Karma.
>> It's based on the fact that in the one substance, E=Mc˛, motion
>> can only be in closed circuitry, that there be something to move out of
>> the way and fill in behind. It is mechanical fact! I don't just believe
>> in it, I know it! I was a veterinary nurse who loved and cared for
>> animals, but, those poor little animals didn't want treatment; and,
>> later I got all my Karma back for it.
>> What? These quacks' feelings might get hurt if I protest? They're
>> getting back far worse than that! I can take a little Karma back from
>> telling such stupid people off, but, I'll never be stupid again to be
>> such as a psychiatrist, psychiatric nurse, screw, or cop. Forget it, it
>> ain't worth it.
>> Since God can do anything He can prevent bad Karma from coming
>> back to His special people. But, my Karma is still coming back.

>
>I tried to break free from Risperdal + Seroquel cocktail, but I was
>forced to go back after a week due to increased sensitivity to
>harassment.



You can't just go off any of them cold turkey.. well you can but you will
suffer..
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Old 07-15-2008, 03:57 AM
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On Jul 14, 12:23 pm, chessucat <chessu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> On Jul 13, 4:23 pm, Pies de Arcilla threatened:
>
>
>
> > You can't understand how much difference drugs can make unless you're
> > one of the people they've helped. Since you don't have an alternative
> > to drugs, it makes me angry when you criticize people who are trying
> > to help sick people.

>
> You GAWDAMN PUSSNUTTED WHORE, SLUT BITCH!!! Fuck you and your drugs!
> You want to go around and control people, deny their very essence of a
> soul!
>
> You are a gawdamn pdoc trying to drug people into the State's idea of
> submissive complacent obedience!:-(


I'm not a doctor.

I take drugs so I can work. I make money and get health insurance,
which helps me buy drugs, which allows me to work...
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Old 07-15-2008, 03:57 AM
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On Jul 13, 5:45 pm, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:
> What? These quacks' feelings might get hurt if I protest? They're
> getting back far worse than that! I can take a little Karma back from
> telling such stupid people off, but, I'll never be stupid again to be
> such as a psychiatrist, psychiatric nurse, screw, or cop. Forget it, it
> ain't worth it.


The Bible says "forgive them, for they know not what they do". Doctors
don't know what they're doing necessarily, but they're trying to help,
and they _do_ help some people.
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Old 07-15-2008, 12:37 PM
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It was the easiest thing to quit any antipsychotic drug (dopamine
blocker) cold turkey.
But, it took a long time for them to wear off. They are made to be
"lipophilic", stick to the fats, and thereby take a long time to get out
of your system.
Any drug could be made to be "lipohpilic" and therefore last a
long time. How would you like a pain killer that keeps working as long
as a dopamine blocker works?
It can be done easily, but, tyranny dictates that this only be
done with the most miserable drugs of them all, dopamine blockers.

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Old 07-16-2008, 11:30 AM
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On Jul 15, 12:12 pm, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:
> It was the easiest thing to quit any antipsychotic drug (dopamine
> blocker) cold turkey.
> But, it took a long time for them to wear off. They are made to be
> "lipophilic", stick to the fats, and thereby take a long time to get out
> of your system.
> Any drug could be made to be "lipohpilic" and therefore last a
> long time. How would you like a pain killer that keeps working as long
> as a dopamine blocker works?
> It can be done easily, but, tyranny dictates that this only be
> done with the most miserable drugs of them all, dopamine blockers.


Well said.

In Croatia, additionally, they have "support"; streetmongers who make
you feel better when you're on meds, but, alas, when you stop taking
meds they turn into an evil beast.

(The result: to a neutral viewer with no knowledge of "support", it
seems that drugs keep you extremely well, and that you are
unreasonable to stop drugs because they do you so much good and you
are ill immediately upon stopping to take them.)

You made me realize that mainstream America won't deliver me from
those.

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Old 07-16-2008, 01:12 PM
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But, now in America, in most states, THEY can't force you to take
dopamine blockers. THEY can't even force people in prison, in those
states, to take dopamine blockers.
But, what is actually still FORCING is threatening to cut off
support if dopamine blockers are not taken. They force such patients to
take periodic blood tests to make sure that the dopamine blockers are
being taken. Then if the tests are refused or the tests are failed the
support is cut off.
Such patients try to cancel out the effects of the dopamine
blockers with Benedril, diphenhydramine, which is listed in the Merck
Manual as the antidote for an overdose of dopamine blockers.
Also, patients are thrown out into the street and their belongings
thrown away if they wont take dopamine blockers. So, if a patient is
willing to go without support and remain homeless in utter poverty, he
is free to refuse to take dopamine blockers.
But, disabled veterans are only forced on prescribed treatments
for the first twenty years. After that it is federal law that they have
their support for life, unless they get gainful employment. After twenty
years veterans have their disability compensations "grandfathered" and
they can refuse treatment.
But, psychiatry will lie. When my cousin goes to his VA clinic he
carries a copy of that law and a little copy of the Constitution. If a
psychiatrist lies to him and says, "Well, THEY have passed a new law now
that you have to do what WE say or get cut off", he pulls out the
Constitution and reads the prohibition against ex post facto laws. He
had passed his twenty years before the passage of any such new law,
therefore, applying the new law against him is un-Constitutional ex post
facto. And then it turns out that the psychiatrist was lying about a new
law, there was never any such a law ever passed anyway.
He doesn't live in commercial housing, so he isn't required by his
land lord to take dopamine blockers. But, THEY have been trying to force
him away from his home into housing where he would only get kicked out
for not taking dopamine blockers, and become homeless in utter poverty.
But, he has used the Uniform Commercnal Code to protect himself to
remain where he is in his chosen home.
He has had to have the knowledge of a "Philadelphia Lawyer", and
considerable skills. His ex-wife told him, "You could sell snow to the
Eskimos and make a profit". That's what it takes to beat the dopamine
blocker system. But, we are fighting against the dopamine blocker racket
with TRUTH, and plenty of wide spread communication. Dopamine blocker
tyranny will come to an end forever.

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Old 07-18-2008, 02:02 AM
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Thank you Miguel.

Brothers,
Kenny

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Old 07-18-2008, 02:41 PM
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In the near future students and the public will be amazed at the
primitive cruelty that existed in America to have so many people, for so
long, forced on dopamine blockers. The public will realize the torment
that blocking dopamine causes, and these atrocities will never happen
again.

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Old 07-19-2008, 05:45 PM
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 07:22:45 -0400, in alt.support.schizophrenia
gellie618@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:

> They force such patients to
>take periodic blood tests to make sure that the dopamine blockers are
>being taken. Then if the tests are refused or the tests are failed the
>support is cut off.



I have never heard of such a test, does it really exist?
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Old 07-20-2008, 09:56 PM
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People with state disability compensations for schizophrenia have
to take random tests to make sure they are taking their dopamine
blockers. It's just like the courts test alcoholics, who got in trouble,
for alcohol.
In fact, those let out of prison early under the condition that
they take dopamine blockers are also tested to make sure they are taking
the compulsory dopamine blockers. If they fail, it's back to prison.
But, they don't force dopamine blockers on prisoners any more in some
states.
THEY used to force dopamine blockers on prisoners, and out
patients. THEY were putting dopamine blocker pumps in people. These
dopamine blocker pumps worked for six months at a time. My cousin was
glad that he had a veterinarian for a room mate. If a dopamine blocker
pump was put in him he was going to have the veterinarian cut it out.
Just like many employees are required to take drug tests, those
with a "schizophrenic" background are tested to make sure they are
taking the required dopamine blockers. This is part of the recent
acceptance of "schizophrenics" due to laws against discrimination
against people because of their disabilities. Before, a schizophrenic
could never get typical employment.
Down in Boston my cousin said that when he applied for a job,
admitting his background, he was rejected immediately. When he lied
about his background, even denying that he was ever in the military,
they'd find out in about a two weeks and then fire him.
The same thing happens today with housing. Assisted living housing
can throw anybody out without a reason. And, I found out that the
elderly are also being thrown out of nursing homes.
If Hillary's plans go through we will get socialized medicine and
socialized housing. There could be some very colorful history in the
making: colored RED.

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