Psychiatrists are evil

I hate psychiatrists. They are abusing me. I wouldn't be suprised if God
throws most of them into the Lake of Fire. Psychiatrists are evil.

Of course.

"Captain Adam" <captain_adsNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I hate psychiatrists. They are abusing me. I wouldn't be suprised if God
> throws most of them into the Lake of Fire. Psychiatrists are evil.
>
>

I wonder if psychiatrists do well in Mexico where anyone can get
anything at the drug store.

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:11:05 +0000, Captain Adam wrote:

> I hate psychiatrists. They are abusing me. I wouldn't be suprised if God
> throws most of them into the Lake of Fire. Psychiatrists are evil.

Why wait for God? Psychiatrists and most doctors are continually murdering
and torturing and people, and that makes it okay to kill psychiatrists and
doctors.

If you do nothing, you're part of the problem.

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On Aug 31, 10:24 am, "Dr. Dre" <DrDre_2007...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:11:05 +0000, Captain Adam wrote:
> > I hate psychiatrists. They are abusing me. I wouldn't be suprised if God
> > throws most of them into the Lake of Fire. Psychiatrists are evil.
>
> Why wait for God? Psychiatrists and most doctors are continually murdering
> and torturing and people, and that makes it okay to kill psychiatrists and
> doctors.
>
> If you do nothing, you're part of the problem.
>
> http://www.domain357.info/DrDre.html

So, what makes you different then them if you do same thing?
Those people are just part of a evil system. They themselves
are not guilty for anything. Of course murder is a crime, but
does they routinely murder anyone? Yes, they legally torture people
but I don;t blame them.
Sorry for thinking out loud.

Greets, Branimir.

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 02:53:15 -0700, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:

> On Aug 31, 10:24 am, "Dr. Dre" <DrDre_2007...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:11:05 +0000, Captain Adam wrote:
>> > I hate psychiatrists. They are abusing me. I wouldn't be suprised if God
>> > throws most of them into the Lake of Fire. Psychiatrists are evil.
>>
>> Why wait for God? Psychiatrists and most doctors are continually murdering
>> and torturing and people, and that makes it okay to kill psychiatrists and
>> doctors.
>>
>> If you do nothing, you're part of the problem.
>>
>> http://www.domain357.info/DrDre.html
>
> So, what makes you different then them if you do same thing?
> Those people are just part of a evil system. They themselves
> are not guilty for anything. Of course murder is a crime, but
> does they routinely murder anyone? Yes, they legally torture people
> but I don;t blame them.
> Sorry for thinking out loud.
>
> Greets, Branimir.

Nazi soldiers were just part of an evil system, and they had to be killed,
for the sake of humanity. Psychiatrists and doctors are worse than Nazi
soldiers, as they commit their evil with more awareness, selfishness,
greed, and deliberation than the Nazi soldiers did.

Murder would be more humane than what psychiatrists and doctors do.

I've had cancer for half my life, causing me disabling physical pain. It's
only been diagnosed recently. But for 15 years, I've gone to doctors
seeking treatment, and for 15 years, over 100 doctors have neglected to do
what their textbooks say they should do. Instead, they've lied in their
medical records, told me I'm at fault for perceiving pain, told me I'm a
'hypochondriac'. When I've gotten anxious about doctors' gross negligence
and mistreatment, new doctors have told me I'm further at fault, for
experiencing anxiety.

In the meantime, the family and friends I used to have have abandoned me,
deceived by the malicious doctors. Trust me, doctors would have been more
humane simply to murder me 15 years ago.

What makes me different is, I've never deliberately hurt anyone. Put
yourself in my shoes; would you die peacefully, after being tortured for
15 years? Or would you use your remaining energy to execute justice, and
teach doctors to think twice before torturing innocent people?

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"Captain Adam" <captain_adsNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Psychiatrists are evil.

They are no more evil than any other human.
You will find just as much evil in any walk of life - not just the mental
health profession.
You in your own way are evil - threatening them with God who most people
would like to think loving and kind.
Who is worse?
You in your wicked punishment system for people you do not like?
Or the people you do not like - who would no doubt not wish you any harm in
this evil way.

On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:23:19 +0000, THE BORG wrote:

> "Captain Adam" <captain_adsNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Z1WAi.27190$4A1.25745@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>> Psychiatrists are evil.
>
> They are no more evil than any other human.
> You will find just as much evil in any walk of life - not just the mental
> health profession.
> You in your own way are evil - threatening them with God who most people
> would like to think loving and kind.
> Who is worse?
> You in your wicked punishment system for people you do not like?
> Or the people you do not like - who would no doubt not wish you any harm in
> this evil way.

Psychiatry is evil, and its apologists and practitioners are dangers to
society who need to be killed.

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"Dr. Dre" <DrDre_2007_07@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Psychiatry is evil, and its apologists and practitioners are dangers to
> society who need to be killed.
>
I dunno.
Mind is a flopsy wopsy twopenny bit female who really should be at home
cooking pastry. You say "da da da da de dum de da" and she writes it all
down and then promptly forgets.
She is rather nice. Totally useless but quite nice.
Regards
THE BORG

On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 05:03:26 +0000, THE BORG wrote:

> "Dr. Dre" <DrDre_2007_07@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:zE5Di.62379$xZ2.46023@newsfe10.phx...
>
>> Psychiatry is evil, and its apologists and practitioners are dangers to
>> society who need to be killed.
>>
> I dunno.
> Mind is a flopsy wopsy twopenny bit female who really should be at home
> cooking pastry. You say "da da da da de dum de da" and she writes it all
> down and then promptly forgets.
> She is rather nice. Totally useless but quite nice.
> Regards
> THE BORG

As many of Hitler's soldiers were nice people; but when nice people take
to practicing evil, what other choice do we have.

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"Dr. Dre" <DrDre_2007_07@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:23:19 +0000, THE BORG wrote:
>
>> "Captain Adam" <captain_adsNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Z1WAi.27190$4A1.25745@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>>> Psychiatrists are evil.
>>
>> They are no more evil than any other human.
>> You will find just as much evil in any walk of life - not just the mental
>> health profession.
>> You in your own way are evil - threatening them with God who most people
>> would like to think loving and kind.
>> Who is worse?
>> You in your wicked punishment system for people you do not like?
>> Or the people you do not like - who would no doubt not wish you any harm
>> in
>> this evil way.
>
> Psychiatry is evil, and its apologists and practitioners are dangers to
> society who need to be killed.

Dre, note the article just posted here today on Dr. Tomas Szasz and the
extensive writings of Dr. Peter Breggin. There are psychiatrists out there
who share your concerns. My own psychotherapist, a psychiatrist by training,
is cautious about many things most laypeople take for granted. So let's not
tar a whole group of people with one brush.

Mike

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>
> "Dr. Dre" <DrDre_2007_07@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:zE5Di.62379$xZ2.46023@newsfe10.phx...
>
>> Psychiatry is evil, and its apologists and practitioners are dangers to
>> society who need to be killed.
>>
> I dunno.
> Mind is a flopsy wopsy twopenny bit female who really should be at home
> cooking pastry. You say "da da da da de dum de da" and she writes it all
> down and then promptly forgets.
> She is rather nice. Totally useless but quite nice.
> Regards
> THE BORG

Borg, if she writes it all down, does it matter that she forgets? I'm
figuring she--or anyone else--can read it later to refresh their memory.

I think of my own mind more as a cloud of mist--amorphous and elusive.

Mike

"Dr. Dre" <DrDre_2007_07@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> As many of Hitler's soldiers were nice people; but when nice people take
> to practicing evil, what other choice do we have.
>
It is hard to compare to Hitler soldiers - supposedly Hitler was some kind
of mass hypnotist and they could not really be held to blame.
It is also hard to say that psychiatrists practice evil - I think more
relevant is to say that they are "stupid".
If you look at what they do in the light of the fact that they are stupid -
you may find they are not so much evil - as ignorant.
It is possible that if correct treatment is given for ANY mental illness at
the TIME of diagnosis - then many if not all could be helped and even cured.
Whamming in huge injections and massive doses of drugs is not the answer.
Once you are on the drug path - it is very hard to get off.
With therapy - understanding and intelligence - much can be understood about
maybe childhood incidents which effect a humans life - and thus many
behaviour problems and psychological problems can be cured.
I am quite sure that with a bit of understanding when I was first diagnosed
I would have been fine.
I just needed to be told what planet I was on - what species I was - and
various things like this - but an injection does not make one any the wiser
on these kinds of things.
I can fully understand your wish to kill psychiatrists - perhaps you should
add pure and simple laziness to the stupidity and ignorance labels.

"Mike Kocic" <isotope@mikikocic.com> wrote in message
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> Borg, if she writes it all down, does it matter that she forgets? I'm
> figuring she--or anyone else--can read it later to refresh their memory.

You would think so.
I have had VERY IMPORTANT - CRUCIAL - LIFE THREATENING - these kinds of
things written down - and they forget those also!
Why they write things down I do not know!

> I think of my own mind more as a cloud of mist--amorphous and elusive.
>
Sounds nice Mike.

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>
> "Dr. Dre" <DrDre_2007_07@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ST5Di.62381$xZ2.45772@newsfe10.phx...
>
>> As many of Hitler's soldiers were nice people; but when nice people take
>> to practicing evil, what other choice do we have.
>>
> It is hard to compare to Hitler soldiers - supposedly Hitler was some kind
> of mass hypnotist and they could not really be held to blame.
> It is also hard to say that psychiatrists practice evil - I think more
> relevant is to say that they are "stupid".
> If you look at what they do in the light of the fact that they are
> stupid - you may find they are not so much evil - as ignorant.
> It is possible that if correct treatment is given for ANY mental illness
> at the TIME of diagnosis - then many if not all could be helped and even
> cured.
> Whamming in huge injections and massive doses of drugs is not the answer.
> Once you are on the drug path - it is very hard to get off.
> With therapy - understanding and intelligence - much can be understood
> about maybe childhood incidents which effect a humans life - and thus many
> behaviour problems and psychological problems can be cured.
> I am quite sure that with a bit of understanding when I was first
> diagnosed I would have been fine.
> I just needed to be told what planet I was on - what species I was - and
> various things like this - but an injection does not make one any the
> wiser on these kinds of things.
> I can fully understand your wish to kill psychiatrists - perhaps you
> should add pure and simple laziness to the stupidity and ignorance labels.

I spent the first 26 years of my life dealing with undiagnosed Asperger's.
When this led to psychosis I had the label of schizo slapped on me and got
pumped full of antipsychotics for another 16 years, which *has* made me
schizo. It wasn't until a few months ago that a psychiatrist actually
bothered to ask me about my childhood. Now everything seems fairly clear,
but my mental problems are so numerous and tangled that I might die of old
age or smoking or diabetes before I can resolve them.

So I have reason to be bitter, but I *don't* hate psychiatry or advocate
mass murder of psychiatrists. The fact is that most humans can't be bothered
with a stranger, and I have been guilty of that myself over the years. I can
appreciate a psychiatrist's perspective--funding shortages, time shortages,
the need to get stuff done quickly and on a shoestring--and compare that to
my own lack of resources, which has often led me to behave in similar ways.

Mike

"THE BORG" <THE BORG@here.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Kocic" <isotope@mikikocic.com> wrote in message
> news:13dpr89ab689d61@corp.supernews.com...
>
>> Borg, if she writes it all down, does it matter that she forgets? I'm
>> figuring she--or anyone else--can read it later to refresh their memory.
>
> You would think so.
> I have had VERY IMPORTANT - CRUCIAL - LIFE THREATENING - these kinds of
> things written down - and they forget those also!
> Why they write things down I do not know!

Not to laugh at your misfortune, but the way you expressed that is funny.

>
>> I think of my own mind more as a cloud of mist--amorphous and elusive.
>>
> Sounds nice Mike.

Not really. It's very hard to get a hold of my own thoughts, which is the
one thing I really need to do with them.

Mike

On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 01:26:23 -0400, Mike Kocic wrote:

> "Dr. Dre" <DrDre_2007_07@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:23:19 +0000, THE BORG wrote:
>>
>>> "Captain Adam" <captain_adsNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Z1WAi.27190$4A1.25745@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>>> Psychiatrists are evil.
>>>
>>> They are no more evil than any other human.
>>> You will find just as much evil in any walk of life - not just the mental
>>> health profession.
>>> You in your own way are evil - threatening them with God who most people
>>> would like to think loving and kind.
>>> Who is worse?
>>> You in your wicked punishment system for people you do not like?
>>> Or the people you do not like - who would no doubt not wish you any harm
>>> in
>>> this evil way.
>>
>> Psychiatry is evil, and its apologists and practitioners are dangers to
>> society who need to be killed.
>
> Dre, note the article just posted here today on Dr. Tomas Szasz and the
> extensive writings of Dr. Peter Breggin.

Here's a link:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...feca5098503378

> There are psychiatrists out
> there who share your concerns. My own psychotherapist, a psychiatrist by
> training, is cautious about many things most laypeople take for granted.
> So let's not tar a whole group of people with one brush.
>
> Mike



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On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 05:50:16 +0000, THE BORG wrote:

> "Mike Kocic" <isotope@mikikocic.com> wrote in message
> news:13dpr89ab689d61@corp.supernews.com...
>
>> Borg, if she writes it all down, does it matter that she forgets? I'm
>> figuring she--or anyone else--can read it later to refresh their memory.
>
> You would think so.
> I have had VERY IMPORTANT - CRUCIAL - LIFE THREATENING - these kinds of
> things written down - and they forget those also!
> Why they write things down I do not know!

One idea I'd had was that even the laziest doctors might take better
care if they thought to themselves "Can I personally afford to
abuse and neglect this patient for profit? Remember all those doctors who
ended up getting killed for profiting from patients' abuse and neglect?
Do I want to end up like them?"

Otherwise, I can't imagine why doctors would bother to mind VERY IMPORTANT
- CRUCIAL - LIFE THREATENING details about patients, as doctors at large
exhibit sociopathy.

>> I think of my own mind more as a cloud of mist--amorphous and elusive.
>>
> Sounds nice Mike.



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On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 05:38:30 +0000, THE BORG wrote:

> "Dr. Dre" <DrDre_2007_07@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ST5Di.62381$xZ2.45772@newsfe10.phx...
>
>> As many of Hitler's soldiers were nice people; but when nice people take
>> to practicing evil, what other choice do we have.
>>
> It is hard to compare to Hitler soldiers - supposedly Hitler was some kind
> of mass hypnotist and they could not really be held to blame.
> It is also hard to say that psychiatrists practice evil - I think more
> relevant is to say that they are "stupid".
> If you look at what they do in the light of the fact that they are stupid -
> you may find they are not so much evil - as ignorant.

I doubt Hitler was any kind of mass hypnotist. With all due respect to
you, that theory seems like an unjustified attempt to pin all the blame on
one person, when as I see it, he was no more at fault than the millions who
supported him.

I agree that psychiatrists tend to be ignorant and stupid, and the same
goes for all M.D.'s. The problem is, their ignorance and stupidity is
imposing on the rights and lives of other people, and they (with a few
exceptions) exhibit no insight or inclination to respect the rights and
lives of others, unless compelled forcibly.

> It is possible that if correct treatment is given for ANY mental illness at
> the TIME of diagnosis - then many if not all could be helped and even cured.
> Whamming in huge injections and massive doses of drugs is not the answer.
> Once you are on the drug path - it is very hard to get off.
> With therapy - understanding and intelligence - much can be understood about
> maybe childhood incidents which effect a humans life - and thus many
> behaviour problems and psychological problems can be cured.
> I am quite sure that with a bit of understanding when I was first diagnosed
> I would have been fine.
> I just needed to be told what planet I was on - what species I was - and
> various things like this - but an injection does not make one any the wiser
> on these kinds of things.
> I can fully understand your wish to kill psychiatrists - perhaps you should
> add pure and simple laziness to the stupidity and ignorance labels.



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"Mike Kocic" <isotope@mikikocic.com> wrote in message
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> I spent the first 26 years of my life dealing with undiagnosed Asperger's.
> When this led to psychosis I had the label of schizo slapped on me and got
> pumped full of antipsychotics for another 16 years, which *has* made me
> schizo. It wasn't until a few months ago that a psychiatrist actually
> bothered to ask me about my childhood. Now everything seems fairly clear,
> but my mental problems are so numerous and tangled that I might die of old
> age or smoking or diabetes before I can resolve them.
>
> So I have reason to be bitter, but I *don't* hate psychiatry or advocate
> mass murder of psychiatrists. The fact is that most humans can't be
> bothered with a stranger, and I have been guilty of that myself over the
> years. I can appreciate a psychiatrist's perspective--funding shortages,
> time shortages, the need to get stuff done quickly and on a
> shoestring--and compare that to my own lack of resources, which has often
> led me to behave in similar ways.
>
What they do not realize though is that their behaviour causes funding
shortages - time shortages.
If they helped the patients rather than hindered - misdiagnosed - and in
many ways made their symptoms worse - they would find the lack of time and
resources would not be so much of a problem
One of the main reasons is that they do not talk and do not listen - traumas
and childhood experiences are essential to know about when making a
diagnosis.
The question really to ask now Mike - is have they got it right this time?
Are you satisfied that this is the correct diagnosis?
Regards
THE BORG

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> It is hard to compare to Hitler soldiers - supposedly Hitler was some kind
> of mass hypnotist and they could not really be held to blame.
> It is also hard to say that psychiatrists practice evil - I think more
> relevant is to say that they are "stupid".
> If you look at what they do in the light of the fact that they are
> stupid - you may find they are not so much evil - as ignorant.
> It is possible that if correct treatment is given for ANY mental illness
> at the TIME of diagnosis - then many if not all could be helped and even
> cured.
> Whamming in huge injections and massive doses of drugs is not the answer.
> Once you are on the drug path - it is very hard to get off.
> With therapy - understanding and intelligence - much can be understood
> about maybe childhood incidents which effect a humans life - and thus many
> behaviour problems and psychological problems can be cured.
> I am quite sure that with a bit of understanding when I was first
> diagnosed I would have been fine.
> I just needed to be told what planet I was on - what species I was - and
> various things like this - but an injection does not make one any the
> wiser on these kinds of things.
> I can fully understand your wish to kill psychiatrists - perhaps you
> should add pure and simple laziness to the stupidity and ignorance labels.

To say somebody is ignorant is to not see the issue.
It is not possible for two people to use the same thing at the same time.

"THE BORG" <THE BORG@here.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Kocic" <isotope@mikikocic.com> wrote in message
> news:13dpssr80uqs1ed@corp.supernews.com...
>
>> I spent the first 26 years of my life dealing with undiagnosed
>> Asperger's. When this led to psychosis I had the label of schizo slapped
>> on me and got pumped full of antipsychotics for another 16 years, which
>> *has* made me schizo. It wasn't until a few months ago that a
>> psychiatrist actually bothered to ask me about my childhood. Now
>> everything seems fairly clear, but my mental problems are so numerous and
>> tangled that I might die of old age or smoking or diabetes before I can
>> resolve them.
>>
>> So I have reason to be bitter, but I *don't* hate psychiatry or advocate
>> mass murder of psychiatrists. The fact is that most humans can't be
>> bothered with a stranger, and I have been guilty of that myself over the
>> years. I can appreciate a psychiatrist's perspective--funding shortages,
>> time shortages, the need to get stuff done quickly and on a
>> shoestring--and compare that to my own lack of resources, which has often
>> led me to behave in similar ways.
>>
> What they do not realize though is that their behaviour causes funding
> shortages - time shortages.
> If they helped the patients rather than hindered - misdiagnosed - and in
> many ways made their symptoms worse - they would find the lack of time and
> resources would not be so much of a problem
> One of the main reasons is that they do not talk and do not listen -
> traumas and childhood experiences are essential to know about when making
> a diagnosis.
> The question really to ask now Mike - is have they got it right this time?
> Are you satisfied that this is the correct diagnosis?
> Regards
> THE BORG

I've talked to autistics and many things about their lives and natures
square with mine. The one thing that doesn't is their prudery, but that
could be related to upbringing rather than the condition of autism. But in
the end I don't know. It's still early days, and my psychotherapist and I
look like we will be at this for years yet.

Mike

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> "THE BORG" <THE BORG@here.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Mike Kocic" <isotope@mikikocic.com> wrote in message
>> news:13dpssr80uqs1ed@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>> I spent the first 26 years of my life dealing with undiagnosed
>>> Asperger's. When this led to psychosis I had the label of schizo slapped
>>> on me and got pumped full of antipsychotics for another 16 years, which
>>> *has* made me schizo. It wasn't until a few months ago that a
>>> psychiatrist actually bothered to ask me about my childhood. Now
>>> everything seems fairly clear, but my mental problems are so numerous
>>> and tangled that I might die of old age or smoking or diabetes before I
>>> can resolve them.
>>>
>>> So I have reason to be bitter, but I *don't* hate psychiatry or advocate
>>> mass murder of psychiatrists. The fact is that most humans can't be
>>> bothered with a stranger, and I have been guilty of that myself over the
>>> years. I can appreciate a psychiatrist's perspective--funding shortages,
>>> time shortages, the need to get stuff done quickly and on a
>>> shoestring--and compare that to my own lack of resources, which has
>>> often led me to behave in similar ways.
>>>
>> What they do not realize though is that their behaviour causes funding
>> shortages - time shortages.
>> If they helped the patients rather than hindered - misdiagnosed - and in
>> many ways made their symptoms worse - they would find the lack of time
>> and resources would not be so much of a problem
>> One of the main reasons is that they do not talk and do not listen -
>> traumas and childhood experiences are essential to know about when making
>> a diagnosis.
>> The question really to ask now Mike - is have they got it right this
>> time? Are you satisfied that this is the correct diagnosis?
>> Regards
>> THE BORG
>
> I've talked to autistics and many things about their lives and natures
> square with mine. The one thing that doesn't is their prudery, but that
> could be related to upbringing rather than the condition of autism. But in
> the end I don't know. It's still early days, and my psychotherapist and I
> look like we will be at this for years yet.
>
> Mike

I should add that I'm still scheduled for a second medical opinion
(requested by my psychotherapist) to help refine the diagnosis, as well as a
battery of psychometric tests.

I took the AQ (Asperger Quotient) test online and scored 32, which is
borderline high-functioning autistic. Scores above 34 involve more serious
social and cognitive impairment.

But there's no question I'm schizo as well.

Mike

Psychiatrists first have to have a doctorate degree in medicine.
Next they have to have a doctorate degree in psychology.
But then they have to conform to and pass the psychological and
ideological tests of the psychiatric association in order to be licensed
to practice psychiatry, and it is here that they must conform to the
athiestic and Luciferian ideology of the one world order. Here they
become thought police of the establishment.
If any of them say they are Christians, they really are not. They
lie! They are supposed to secretly and actually think that religions are
"nonsense". Thus, they are a Godless and amoral secret society that can
be nothing but EVIL.

On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 01:56:41 -0400, Mike Kocic wrote:

> "THE BORG" <THE BORG@here.com> wrote in message
> news:qb6Di.10949$6u5.6179@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>>
>> "Dr. Dre" <DrDre_2007_07@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:ST5Di.62381$xZ2.45772@newsfe10.phx...
>>
>>> As many of Hitler's soldiers were nice people; but when nice people
>>> take to practicing evil, what other choice do we have.
>>>
>> It is hard to compare to Hitler soldiers - supposedly Hitler was some
>> kind of mass hypnotist and they could not really be held to blame. It
>> is also hard to say that psychiatrists practice evil - I think more
>> relevant is to say that they are "stupid". If you look at what they do
>> in the light of the fact that they are stupid - you may find they are
>> not so much evil - as ignorant. It is possible that if correct
>> treatment is given for ANY mental illness at the TIME of diagnosis -
>> then many if not all could be helped and even cured. Whamming in huge
>> injections and massive doses of drugs is not the answer. Once you are
>> on the drug path - it is very hard to get off. With therapy -
>> understanding and intelligence - much can be understood about maybe
>> childhood incidents which effect a humans life - and thus many
>> behaviour problems and psychological problems can be cured. I am quite
>> sure that with a bit of understanding when I was first diagnosed I
>> would have been fine.
>> I just needed to be told what planet I was on - what species I was -
>> and various things like this - but an injection does not make one any
>> the wiser on these kinds of things.
>> I can fully understand your wish to kill psychiatrists - perhaps you
>> should add pure and simple laziness to the stupidity and ignorance
>> labels.
>
> I spent the first 26 years of my life dealing with undiagnosed
> Asperger's. When this led to psychosis I had the label of schizo slapped
> on me and got pumped full of antipsychotics for another 16 years, which
> *has* made me schizo. It wasn't until a few months ago that a
> psychiatrist actually bothered to ask me about my childhood. Now
> everything seems fairly clear, but my mental problems are so numerous
> and tangled that I might die of old age or smoking or diabetes before I
> can resolve them.
>
> So I have reason to be bitter, but I *don't* hate psychiatry or advocate
> mass murder of psychiatrists. The fact is that most humans can't be
> bothered with a stranger, and I have been guilty of that myself over the
> years. I can appreciate a psychiatrist's perspective--funding shortages,
> time shortages, the need to get stuff done quickly and on a
> shoestring--and compare that to my own lack of resources, which has
> often led me to behave in similar ways.
>
> Mike

My personal experience has been with M.D.'s, not psychiatrists. With few
exceptions, the M.D.'s have practiced fraud, not to mention incompetence,
recklessness, and negligence; not to mention they've exhibited
professionally impairing Antisocial Personality Disorder, Psychosis,
Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and Mental Retardation.

I have never committed fraud against one of my customers, although I'm
subject to the same funding- and time-shortages as any other person. In
fact, when I've made mistakes with customers, I've offered to correct the
mistakes for free, on my own time. Few M.D.'s have as much professional or
personal integrity as normal people.

M.D.'s in the U.S. get 70% of their money from the Federal Government, and
free lunches from reps from the pharmaceutical companies. In return,
prescribe medications hazardously, in order to please the pharmaceutical
reps; and they neglect as many patients as possible per day.

Part of the problem is that the government makes it profitable for M.D.'s
to mistreat their customers. And as we live in a democracy, the voters are
ultimately to blame for that.

Anyway, it wouldn't bother me one bit if any M.D. who willfully neglected
any patient got killed for it. It might inspire the surviving M.D.'s to
think twice before committing fraud for profit.

--
http://www.domain357.info/DrDre.html

"Miguel Lahunkun" <gellie418@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:9683-46DD2964-195@storefull-3135.bay.webtv.net...
> Psychiatrists first have to have a doctorate degree in medicine.
> Next they have to have a doctorate degree in psychology.
> But then they have to conform to and pass the psychological and
> ideological tests of the psychiatric association in order to be licensed
> to practice psychiatry, and it is here that they must conform to the
> athiestic and Luciferian ideology of the one world order. Here they
> become thought police of the establishment.
> If any of them say they are Christians, they really are not. They
> lie! They are supposed to secretly and actually think that religions are
> "nonsense". Thus, they are a Godless and amoral secret society that can
> be nothing but EVIL.

Research funding comes almost exclusively from pharmaceutical companies, and
they don't fund research unless it might make them a profit down the road.
The people writing the diagnostic and treatment manuals have to rely on the
research, and clinical doctors have to obey the manuals. There is more to it
than that, but that's the basis.

Mike

"Dr. Dre" <DrDre_2007_07@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:GodDi.156776$zz2.94606@newsfe12.phx...
> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 01:56:41 -0400, Mike Kocic wrote:
>
>> "THE BORG" <THE BORG@here.com> wrote in message
>> news:qb6Di.10949$6u5.6179@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>>>
>>> "Dr. Dre" <DrDre_2007_07@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ST5Di.62381$xZ2.45772@newsfe10.phx...
>>>
>>>> As many of Hitler's soldiers were nice people; but when nice people
>>>> take to practicing evil, what other choice do we have.
>>>>
>>> It is hard to compare to Hitler soldiers - supposedly Hitler was some
>>> kind of mass hypnotist and they could not really be held to blame. It
>>> is also hard to say that psychiatrists practice evil - I think more
>>> relevant is to say that they are "stupid". If you look at what they do
>>> in the light of the fact that they are stupid - you may find they are
>>> not so much evil - as ignorant. It is possible that if correct
>>> treatment is given for ANY mental illness at the TIME of diagnosis -
>>> then many if not all could be helped and even cured. Whamming in huge
>>> injections and massive doses of drugs is not the answer. Once you are
>>> on the drug path - it is very hard to get off. With therapy -
>>> understanding and intelligence - much can be understood about maybe
>>> childhood incidents which effect a humans life - and thus many
>>> behaviour problems and psychological problems can be cured. I am quite
>>> sure that with a bit of understanding when I was first diagnosed I
>>> would have been fine.
>>> I just needed to be told what planet I was on - what species I was -
>>> and various things like this - but an injection does not make one any
>>> the wiser on these kinds of things.
>>> I can fully understand your wish to kill psychiatrists - perhaps you
>>> should add pure and simple laziness to the stupidity and ignorance
>>> labels.
>>
>> I spent the first 26 years of my life dealing with undiagnosed
>> Asperger's. When this led to psychosis I had the label of schizo slapped
>> on me and got pumped full of antipsychotics for another 16 years, which
>> *has* made me schizo. It wasn't until a few months ago that a
>> psychiatrist actually bothered to ask me about my childhood. Now
>> everything seems fairly clear, but my mental problems are so numerous
>> and tangled that I might die of old age or smoking or diabetes before I
>> can resolve them.
>>
>> So I have reason to be bitter, but I *don't* hate psychiatry or advocate
>> mass murder of psychiatrists. The fact is that most humans can't be
>> bothered with a stranger, and I have been guilty of that myself over the
>> years. I can appreciate a psychiatrist's perspective--funding shortages,
>> time shortages, the need to get stuff done quickly and on a
>> shoestring--and compare that to my own lack of resources, which has
>> often led me to behave in similar ways.
>>
>> Mike
>
> My personal experience has been with M.D.'s, not psychiatrists. With few
> exceptions, the M.D.'s have practiced fraud, not to mention incompetence,
> recklessness, and negligence; not to mention they've exhibited
> professionally impairing Antisocial Personality Disorder, Psychosis,
> Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and Mental Retardation.
>
> I have never committed fraud against one of my customers, although I'm
> subject to the same funding- and time-shortages as any other person. In
> fact, when I've made mistakes with customers, I've offered to correct the
> mistakes for free, on my own time. Few M.D.'s have as much professional or
> personal integrity as normal people.
>
> M.D.'s in the U.S. get 70% of their money from the Federal Government, and
> free lunches from reps from the pharmaceutical companies. In return,
> prescribe medications hazardously, in order to please the pharmaceutical
> reps; and they neglect as many patients as possible per day.
>
> Part of the problem is that the government makes it profitable for M.D.'s
> to mistreat their customers. And as we live in a democracy, the voters are
> ultimately to blame for that.
>
> Anyway, it wouldn't bother me one bit if any M.D. who willfully neglected
> any patient got killed for it. It might inspire the surviving M.D.'s to
> think twice before committing fraud for profit.
>
> --
> http://www.domain357.info/DrDre.html

Before I got my lasest psych treatment team, I asked my doctor about what
can be done to get to the bottom of my condition. He said a thorough job
would require a six-month stay at a special psych clinic with every hour of
each day filled with diagnostic work...and he said only millionaires in the
U.S. can afford such special clinics. Here in Canada proper medical
treatment has been priced out of even the government's ability to pay for
it.

Mike

Psychiatrists are themselves seriously ill, due to membership of the
Freeemasons.

At the time of Henry the 8th, who had a disagreement with Rome over
his desire for a divorce, people were encouraged to be as unlike the
Pope as possible. They were encouraged to believe that the devil is
God. They were "taught" to HATE their neighbours, not love them. They
were taught that all morals are reversed. They "learnt" to betray
their friends.

By 1712, male members of the Royal house of Stuart were searching for
some shame in the lives of other male members, and then "oblige" that
member to commit worse and worse crimes, under the threat of public
exposure or worse.

Here is an Evening Standard report on what a "Whip" in the British
parliament said about keeping politicians "on message":

"You look into their past. There is always something. It might be
debt, or something sexual involving boys, but if you help a chap out,
he will do what you want forever".

Such blackmail techniques had become the standard form of "government"
both in the Palace and in Parliament. Democracy has, since 1712, been
simply a pantomime. The politicians have been "helped out", and so
they simply recite their lines as actors do. The Queen of England has
no power - she "symbolises" power. In the States, Mason George
Washington stole money from the British Masons, and left it to the
colonists to repulse the British and Prussian armies. The US has had a
Masonic pretence of democracy from that time. In France, it was
Rosicrucian Mason Napoleon who created the "Grand Orient" branch of
Masons that split off from the British.

In 1738, Pope Clement 12th wrote the first encyclical condemning the
Masons as depraved and perverted. That was "In Eminenti". It says
"valid forever". Seven other Popes ratified that encyclical with
encyclicals of their own.

Here is the first, and the last of the eight. The last has a list of
previous encyclicals at the bottom.
http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Clem12/c15inemengl.htm
http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Leo13/l13human.htm

If a rapist gives a girl a nervous breakdown, The Masonic police will
offer him a choice:
(1) Accept the right-way-round justice of "goody-goodies" and go to
prison.
(2) Accept the reversed morals of Masons by joining the "Brotherhood".

He usually, and foolishly, takes the second option. He is then
commanded to play the psychiatrist, as Christopher Allison did:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2562551.stm

On joining the Masons, one swears not to do anything without
permission. That is to be understood quite literally. It is SLAVERY.

You are encouraged to break the law as much as possible - as a "joke"
- whilst your Master Mason gathers dossiers on your various crimes,
and then blackmails you to leave your money in the bank. You end up
living in poverty.

Rapists are forced to rape their patients. Here is another rapist
doctor:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/782601.stm

And here a collection of them in Australia:
http://www.solicitoradvice.com/sexualmisconduct.htm

There is a lot of it about.

Charles Douglas Wehner

It's these secret societies, who are united into one cartel, who
tell the psychiatrists what to do. Psychiatrists are thought police for
THEM. Actally THEY have a monopoly on psychosis. Thinking
network engineering's hive theory will protect THEIR secrets they have
allowed http://www.holotropic.com to exist, but holotropic breathing is
a way into the Underworld, the state of real psychosis.
Back in the Twentieth Century unauthorized companies caught with
THEIR secrets were wiped off the face of the earth and replaced with
duplicates. Individuals suspected of having THEIR secets were hunted
down, framed up, and committed.
Why all the fuss? In perinatal matrix two, the Knowledge of Good
and Evil, the mind has accss to tremendous power to manifest its
visualizations. THEY don't want the people to have this power and
Liberty.
If you want to stop this system from making your life miserable,
spread these secrets. Go to http;//groups.yahoo.com/group/alchemy61/ and
read the posts of lahunken, which start at Post #1, and check out all
the associated references, like those for Ebtext, freedomwriter, and
freedomdomain, etc. THEIR tyranny can be overthrown. When everybody
knows, then there will be no secrets.

On 4 Sep., 22:34, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Lahunkun) wrote:
> It's these secret societies, who are united into one cartel, who
> tell the psychiatrists what to do. Psychiatrists are thought police for
> THEM. Actally THEY have a monopoly on psychosis. Thinking
> network engineering's hive theory will protect THEIR secrets they have
> allowedhttp://www.holotropic.comto exist, but holotropic breathing is
> a way into the Underworld, the state of real psychosis.
> Back in the Twentieth Century unauthorized companies caught with
> THEIR secrets were wiped off the face of the earth and replaced with
> duplicates. Individuals suspected of having THEIR secets were hunted
> down, framed up, and committed.
> Why all the fuss? In perinatal matrix two, the Knowledge of Good
> and Evil, the mind has accss to tremendous power to manifest its
> visualizations. THEY don't want the people to have this power and
> Liberty.
> If you want to stop this system from making your life miserable,
> spread these secrets. Go to http;//groups.yahoo.com/group/alchemy61/ and
> read the posts of lahunken, which start at Post #1, and check out all
> the associated references, like those for Ebtext, freedomwriter, and
> freedomdomain, etc. THEIR tyranny can be overthrown. When everybody
> knows, then there will be no secrets.

Psychiatry is not a science. Psychology is. People often mistake the
two.

After Sigmund Freud started psychiatry, his "disciples" started
"analysing" each other - always in a derogatory way - and sixteen of
them committed suicide. So Freudian psychiatry proved itself to be
injurious to the health of those sixteen.

What is worse, however, is the legion of utterly unschooled Masonic
"psychiatrists" like Christopher Allison who are unleashed upon an
unsuspecting public. Without Masonic help, via the lawyers and police,
Allison, Ledward, Walton, Hopton and the others - including 862-fold
murderer Harold Frederick Shipman - could never have survived for
THIRTY YEARS undetected. The Masonic authorities do not want to detect
Masonic crime.

Yes - all the names I mentioned are "doctors" who have committed major
crimes like rape and murder for THIRTY years.

That is the terror and the shame. They scare each other with their
terrorist antics, and they push each other deeper into shame. Shame
and terror buy their silence.

Yet sometimes they rebel. George Washington was sent out from England
to rob the colonists by covert Masonic means. He put together so much
wealth that he decided to keep it. The English sent a Prussian and a
British army under Cornwallis. The colonists repulsed these armies.
Washington kept the loot. The States have been Masonic from the start.

In France, Masons fell out with Masons and started chopping each
others' heads off and putting them on sticks. That was the depravity
of the French Revolution. Then Rosacrucian Mason Napoleon crossed the
Alps with the French army, and attacked all puppet governments that
were controlled by the British Masons. That is when France created its
own "Grand Orient" splinter group.

In Saudi Arabia, American "Universal" Masons created al Qua'ida. In
Afghanistan they created the Taliban. Al Qua'ida was driven out of
Saudi Arabia, and was merged with the Taliban.

But suddenly the Russians were gone. The Taliban took charge of
Afghanistan whilst al Qua'ida stole the American war chest. They then
struck back at the World Trade Center. This does not sound like one
cartel. It sounds like internecine warfare.

However, one thing they have in common is a shared belief that the
devil is God, and that they must be as fiendish as possible to their
enemies.

"We are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless
conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its
sphere of influence".
........ John F. Kennedy, 27 April 1961, to the Press, on Secret
Societies.

Charles Douglas Wehner