Rhodiola rosea

This week I have been using Rhodiola rosea, an herbal remedy, to
reduce the fatigue caused by Zyprexa. The fatigue did lessen
considerably, but I also noticed a slight increase in psychotic
symptoms. I also noticed that Rhodiola is sometimes used to treat
Parkinson's, which is related to a deficiency of dopamine as opposed
to its overabundance in schizophrenia. I was wondering if there were
any risks involved in using Rhodiola. Even my psychiatrist doesn't
seem to know, at least not yet.

Regards,

Matt

I never heard of it.

penguin

Benedril, diphenhydramine, also helps against dopamine blockers.
The use of benedril against dopamine blockers is getting to be well
known.
It was printed in the Merck Manual as the antidote for an overdose
of phenothiazines, but it was a pleasant surprise to find that it works
against all the atypical antipsychotics and dopamine blockers.

I take bendadryl every night because the geodon makes me too agitated.

penguin

On Nov 3, 4:18 pm, kol...@webtv.net (Penguin A) wrote:
> I take bendadryl every night because the geodon makes me too agitated.
>
> penguin

Same here. Anyways, Benadryl helps me get to sleep at night.

I took the Rhodiola first thing in the morning because it helped
with fatigue and mood in the morning. It really worked. But now
everyone wants me to check with my psychiatrist before I take any
more. Rhodiola is a supplement you can get at nutrition stores. In
fact, if it is ok with my doc, I would recommend it for morning
fatigue.

Regards,

Matt

According to some references about rhodiola rosea, it has natural
phenylpropanolamine, which was in Dexatrim before the FDA cracked down
on it. Phenylpropanolamine can sure a headache by vasoconstriction.
But, rhodiola rosea also contains androgen like steroids that can
cause serious weight gain, and, drive you up the walls. If it were taken
with a natural estrogen, the estrogen could cancel out the bad effects
of the androgen.
There are so many grasses in Australia that contain estrogen that
it's making the bulls impotent. Such an impotent beast is called a
"freemartin". I know a Freemason named Martin. We called him a
freemartin.

On Nov 3, 8:05 pm, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Lahunkun) wrote:
> According to some references aboutrhodiolarosea, it has natural
> phenylpropanolamine, which was in Dexatrim before the FDA cracked down
> on it. Phenylpropanolamine can sure a headache by vasoconstriction.
> But,rhodiolarosea also contains androgen like steroids that can
> cause serious weight gain, and, drive you up the walls. If it were taken
> with a natural estrogen, the estrogen could cancel out the bad effects
> of the androgen.
> There are so many grasses in Australia that contain estrogen that
> it's making the bulls impotent. Such an impotent beast is called a
> "freemartin". I know a Freemason named Martin. We called him a
> freemartin.

There are no steroids in Rhodiola. It has been taken for a thousand
years in Siberia, Sweden, Iceland, etc, and in fact has never shown a
single contraindiction. It is an adaptogen, meaning that it tends to
help you normalize most body functions. For me, I couldn't live
without its mental clarity effects.

Most of the last twenty years of research on Rhodiola has come from
Swedish Herbal Institute, out of Goteborg, Sweden. I take their
product Arctic Root®, which is the only clinically tested Rhodiola on
the market. I've tried them all, and this is the only one that worked
for me. You can notice an immediate effect. I read about a new
clinical trial they have, a double-blind, placebo controlled test
against mild-to-moderate depression, published in the Nordic Journal
of Psychiatry. This product seems to have the same effect as SSRI's,
without the side effects.

Not sold in stores though. It's on the internet only, and from
doctor's offices,

Dave

On Nov 4, 1:23 pm, DGJ <djense...@cox.net> wrote:

>
> Most of the last twenty years of research on Rhodiola has come from
> Swedish Herbal Institute, out of Goteborg, Sweden. I take their
> product Arctic Root®, which is the only clinically tested Rhodiola on
> the market. I've tried them all, and this is the only one that worked
> for me. You can notice an immediate effect.
> Dave

Yes, when I took the Rhodiola it seemed to kick in within 15 to 20
minutes, probably about the time it took to dissolve the capsule.
Unlike most herbs Rhodiola is very fast acting.

Regards,

Matt

"Matt Menge" <mspmenge@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Nov 4, 1:23 pm, DGJ <djense...@cox.net> wrote:

>
> Most of the last twenty years of research on Rhodiola has come from
> Swedish Herbal Institute, out of Goteborg, Sweden. I take their
> product Arctic Root®, which is the only clinically tested Rhodiola on
> the market. I've tried them all, and this is the only one that worked
> for me. You can notice an immediate effect.
> Dave

Yes, when I took the Rhodiola it seemed to kick in within 15 to 20
minutes, probably about the time it took to dissolve the capsule.
Unlike most herbs Rhodiola is very fast acting.

Regards,

Matt

It is all in the mind.
All these cures - remedies - purely a result of your own thinking process.
Negative thinking produce negative results.
Faith - belief - knowledge of the beautiful and the divine and trust - will
produce miraculous results in a BANANA!
Regards
THE BORG

On Nov 4, 2:31 pm, "THE BORG" <b...@here.com> wrote:

>
> It is all in the mind.
> All these cures - remedies - purely a result of your own thinking process.
> Negative thinking produce negative results.
> Faith - belief - knowledge of the beautiful and the divine and trust - will
> produce miraculous results in a BANANA!
> Regards
> THE BORG

I'm familiar with placebos. Rhodiola has been tested more thoroughly
than that however. I first heard about it in the magazine "Science
News" and I believe it has undergone some double-blind studies. As to
whether it really works within 15 minutes, yes I could be imagining
that.

Regards,

Matt

On Nov 4, 2:31 pm, "THE BORG" <b...@here.com> wrote:

>
> It is all in the mind.
> All these cures - remedies - purely a result of your own thinking process.
> Negative thinking produce negative results.
> Faith - belief - knowledge of the beautiful and the divine and trust - will
> produce miraculous results in a BANANA!
> Regards
> THE BORG

I heard back from my psychiatrist. He said one of his colleagues was
actually using Rhodiola as a mood stabilizer. So it is as legit as
any non-regulated herb can be. However, I think any Rhodiola will
work just fine. I don't buy into this idea that any 'hyper-pure'
Rhodiola will be effective. You can buy it at most nutrition centers.

Regards,

Matt

On Nov 6, 1:30 pm, Matt Menge <mspme...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Nov 4, 2:31 pm, "THE BORG" <b...@here.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > It is all in the mind.
> > All these cures - remedies - purely a result of your own thinking process.
> > Negative thinking produce negative results.
> > Faith - belief - knowledge of the beautiful and the divine and trust - will
> > produce miraculous results in a BANANA!
> > Regards
> > THE BORG
>
> I heard back from my psychiatrist. He said one of his colleagues was
> actually usingRhodiolaas a mood stabilizer. So it is as legit as
> any non-regulated herb can be. However, I think anyRhodiolawill
> work just fine. I don't buy into this idea that any 'hyper-pure'Rhodiolawill be effective. You can buy it at most nutrition centers.
>
> Regards,
>
> Matt

Matt,

Rhodiola, the brand called Arctic Root®, is used by many doctors for
their own personal use. The Science News article you mentioned (http://
sciencenews.org/articles/20070922/bob8.asp) had a great deal of
information about the Swedish brand, Swedish Herbal Institute. That
brand seems to be the one the doctors use because virtually 90% of the
quality research from the last decade (clincal trials, double-blind,
placebo controlled variety) have come from that group. The guy
interviewed in that article, Prof. Georg Wikman, is the chief
scientist. I've tried many brands, including some very big names.
Comparing them with the Swedish version is like comparing a Yugo to a
Volvo.

DGJ