The Road to Recovery

I was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder about 5 years ago.
Fortunately, my psychiatrist is very careful about medications and
takes a full-hour each visit for therapy.

I've heard horror stories about doctors only seeing their patients for
5 minutes and writing them too many prescriptions that leaves the
patient feeling drugged up. My mother-in-law, at one point, was
seeing a doctor that gave her such a high dose of prescriptions meds
that she would drive to places running on errands and would forget how
she got there.

If your doctor only sees you for 5 minutes for med-check-ups, you
might have a problem. Then again, if your insurance plan won't cover
a decent doctor, then you might be out of luck.

My experience has been that proper treatment (medication and therapy)
have allowed me to live a fairly normal life and keep a proper grip on
reality. It was not always this way. During my last year of high
school, I was on a very destructive path. I remember some of the
beliefs I had at the time (though I never shared them with anyone),
and now I'm a little embarassed at how detached from reality I was.

I still have a fair amount of hallucinations when I'm in public. But
I've learned to accept them as just that: hallucinations. With this
view, I can ignore them and realize that they are just a trick of the
mind, and not something I should let control my life.

I read in a doctors manual _Affective & Schizoaffective Disorders:
Similarities and Differences_ about the prognosis of schizoaffective
individuals. The key was how they were treated. Medication and
therapy were the best tools for treatment. And there is a chance
that if you live long enough with the condition that it may revert
into just a manic-depressive disorder (keep in mind, this is just
what I read).

My doctor once told me that the difference between insanity and
sanity, sometimes, is just fact-checking. If you hold a belief which
is wholly unsubstantiated--based on phantom observations that no one
besides you can confirm--then you may want to disregard that
information altogether.

I have had a long road to recovery, and I can't assume that I will
never have any more pitfalls again. But I can tell you, the longer
you live with the disease, and the better you train yourself to cope
with what you know to be delusions, the better your chances are to
live a fulfilling life.

I hope that those of you out there who are having hard times at least
have strong support from your family and friends.

On Aug 9, 1:22 pm, Theseus82 <david.m.metc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder about 5 years ago.
> Fortunately, my psychiatrist is very careful about medications and
> takes a full-hour each visit for therapy.
>
> I've heard horror stories about doctors only seeing their patients for
> 5 minutes and writing them too many prescriptions that leaves the
> patient feeling drugged up. My mother-in-law, at one point, was
> seeing a doctor that gave her such a high dose of prescriptions meds
> that she would drive to places running on errands and would forget how
> she got there.
>
> If your doctor only sees you for 5 minutes for med-check-ups, you
> might have a problem. Then again, if your insurance plan won't cover
> a decent doctor, then you might be out of luck.
>
> My experience has been that proper treatment (medication and therapy)
> have allowed me to live a fairly normal life and keep a proper grip on
> reality. It was not always this way. During my last year of high
> school, I was on a very destructive path. I remember some of the
> beliefs I had at the time (though I never shared them with anyone),
> and now I'm a little embarassed at how detached from reality I was.
>
> I still have a fair amount of hallucinations when I'm in public. But
> I've learned to accept them as just that: hallucinations. With this
> view, I can ignore them and realize that they are just a trick of the
> mind, and not something I should let control my life.
>
> I read in a doctors manual _Affective & Schizoaffective Disorders:
> Similarities and Differences_ about the prognosis of schizoaffective
> individuals. The key was how they were treated. Medication and
> therapy were the best tools for treatment. And there is a chance
> that if you live long enough with the condition that it may revert
> into just a manic-depressive disorder (keep in mind, this is just
> what I read).
>
> My doctor once told me that the difference between insanity and
> sanity, sometimes, is just fact-checking. If you hold a belief which
> is wholly unsubstantiated--based on phantom observations that no one
> besides you can confirm--then you may want to disregard that
> information altogether.
>
> I have had a long road to recovery, and I can't assume that I will
> never have any more pitfalls again. But I can tell you, the longer
> you live with the disease, and the better you train yourself to cope
> with what you know to be delusions, the better your chances are to
> live a fulfilling life.
>
> I hope that those of you out there who are having hard times at least
> have strong support from your family and friends.

If you read the unreadable book you may be cured.
Roky

"Theseus82" <david.m.metcalf@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1186690929.069553.11550@i13g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
>I was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder about 5 years ago.
> Fortunately, my psychiatrist is very careful about medications and
> takes a full-hour each visit for therapy.
>
> I've heard horror stories about doctors only seeing their patients for
> 5 minutes and writing them too many prescriptions that leaves the
> patient feeling drugged up. My mother-in-law, at one point, was
> seeing a doctor that gave her such a high dose of prescriptions meds
> that she would drive to places running on errands and would forget how
> she got there.
>
> If your doctor only sees you for 5 minutes for med-check-ups, you
> might have a problem. Then again, if your insurance plan won't cover
> a decent doctor, then you might be out of luck.
>
> My experience has been that proper treatment (medication and therapy)
> have allowed me to live a fairly normal life and keep a proper grip on
> reality. It was not always this way. During my last year of high
> school, I was on a very destructive path. I remember some of the
> beliefs I had at the time (though I never shared them with anyone),
> and now I'm a little embarassed at how detached from reality I was.
>
> I still have a fair amount of hallucinations when I'm in public. But
> I've learned to accept them as just that: hallucinations. With this
> view, I can ignore them and realize that they are just a trick of the
> mind, and not something I should let control my life.
>
> I read in a doctors manual _Affective & Schizoaffective Disorders:
> Similarities and Differences_ about the prognosis of schizoaffective
> individuals. The key was how they were treated. Medication and
> therapy were the best tools for treatment. And there is a chance
> that if you live long enough with the condition that it may revert
> into just a manic-depressive disorder (keep in mind, this is just
> what I read).
>
> My doctor once told me that the difference between insanity and
> sanity, sometimes, is just fact-checking. If you hold a belief which
> is wholly unsubstantiated--based on phantom observations that no one
> besides you can confirm--then you may want to disregard that
> information altogether.
>
> I have had a long road to recovery, and I can't assume that I will
> never have any more pitfalls again. But I can tell you, the longer
> you live with the disease, and the better you train yourself to cope
> with what you know to be delusions, the better your chances are to
> live a fulfilling life.
>
> I hope that those of you out there who are having hard times at least
> have strong support from your family and friends.
>

Thing is that in full blown psychosis you do NOT know they are delusions.
This is the point of schizophrenia - is that these delusions are real.
And if you then have NO support from family OR friends OR mental health
people - what then?
And if you are having a fantastic time - never felt better - and are really
happy - and yet are a classic case of believing something that NO ONE else
does - what then?
It is all very well saying
">If you hold a belief which
> is wholly unsubstantiated--based on phantom observations that no one
> besides you can confirm--then you may want to disregard that
> information altogether."
But if you hear or see something that is so wonderful - so beautiful - so
much better than anything you heard or saw on Earth - and you really believe
that this is MORE true and MORE real and that you CHOOSE to follow this path
and this direction - then why can this not be seen as intelligent judgement
rather than insanity?
I have NO IDEA why it is inconceivable that I am in contact with beings
other than human.
Why on earth not?
Regards
THE BORG

I want to say something that even you do not know.
Before your time, before you found yourself in an elevated position,
and before his time also, something happened that you know nothing about.
Always there has been an acceptance here that all of you were decent people
who were being steered wrong.
And so it was with you, and so it was with him.

When events reveal themselves, in that way they have of doing which makes
their meaning absolutely clear and understood,
I believe that you will all be too ashamed of what you have done to want to
live with yourselves.

Your dreams were over before they began, because of what you did not know.

always the innocent who get damaged, and so it has been.
and so it will be, even with you.
I believe that you were all innocent of the true nature of what was
happening.

My only hope, is that somewhere along the line, somebody took the trouble
and care to look after those I love.
And kept them alive.

It's not favouritism, it's just family, friends.
You might not care for your family, but I cared for mine.

It's not possible to love everybody individually and completely.
You do it with those you love, and it spreads out.
Unless it can't. For some reason.

Those who don't like to be judged, are the first to judge others.
And so it was with you.
You judged what you did not know
Yes, what you did not know.
Seems inconceivable that there could be something that you did not know.
But there was.
A big something, a powerful something.
That from behind clouded your knowledge and awareness.

And prevented you from seeing what was true.
You judged the innocent and found them guilty.

You acted on behalf of the guilty to attack the innocent.

So many times I said don't do their work for them.

I said that there is none so blind as those who think they can see.
But you relied on your senses, in that place, you relied on your senses.
Believing that you could escape the consequences of what has happened.

Being powerful means totally, that you should not use that power.
Never in vengeance. Never in anger. Never ever cold-bloodedly.
The true holders of that power are those who love.

And those who love are weeping.

"Judy" <jalees@easynet.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> I want to say something that even you do not know.
> Before your time, before you found yourself in an elevated position,
> and before his time also, something happened that you know nothing about.
> Always there has been an acceptance here that all of you were decent
> people who were being steered wrong.
> And so it was with you, and so it was with him.
>
> When events reveal themselves, in that way they have of doing which makes
> their meaning absolutely clear and understood,
> I believe that you will all be too ashamed of what you have done to want
> to live with yourselves.
>
> Your dreams were over before they began, because of what you did not know.
>
> always the innocent who get damaged, and so it has been.
> and so it will be, even with you.
> I believe that you were all innocent of the true nature of what was
> happening.
>
> My only hope, is that somewhere along the line, somebody took the trouble
> and care to look after those I love.
> And kept them alive.
>
> It's not favouritism, it's just family, friends.
> You might not care for your family, but I cared for mine.
>
> It's not possible to love everybody individually and completely.
> You do it with those you love, and it spreads out.
> Unless it can't. For some reason.
>
> Those who don't like to be judged, are the first to judge others.
> And so it was with you.
> You judged what you did not know
> Yes, what you did not know.
> Seems inconceivable that there could be something that you did not know.
> But there was.
> A big something, a powerful something.
> That from behind clouded your knowledge and awareness.
>
> And prevented you from seeing what was true.
> You judged the innocent and found them guilty.
>
> You acted on behalf of the guilty to attack the innocent.
>
> So many times I said don't do their work for them.
>
> I said that there is none so blind as those who think they can see.
> But you relied on your senses, in that place, you relied on your senses.
> Believing that you could escape the consequences of what has happened.
>
> Being powerful means totally, that you should not use that power.
> Never in vengeance. Never in anger. Never ever cold-bloodedly.
> The true holders of that power are those who love.
>
> And those who love are weeping.
>
>
You always speak in these vague schizophrenia innuendos - thinking you have
some great truth - but are too cowardly and dishonest to say or tell -
rather be ambiguous like the typical deceitful woman.
You think those in power are those who love?
No - not so.
Those in power are those who have judgement - intelligence and opinion.
If you love only - then you are in effect sanctioning and condoning bad -
incorrect and immoral behaviour.
You must learn - that if people are good and kind - they are loved - this
encourages and supports good behaviour.
If people are bad and perpetrate crimes and wrongs or moral injustice - then
indeed - hate or dislike is in order - to express disagreement of this
behaviour and thus correction procedures may be effected.
The innocent NEVER get damaged.
The innocent are always protected and guarded FROM the likes of human - ALL
who sin.
THE BORG have reasons for what they do - and mine is not to question but to
obey.
I never found any kind of enduring friendship amongst humans - I never found
any kind of deep love.
You may love your family - maybe they are worth being loved.
Mine are probably looking at brochures for another SUPER holiday without
me - not caring in the slightest whether I live or die.
The crimes that have been perpetrated upon us - THE BORG - are more than is
acceptable.
Whether you will find out one day that we really are THE BORG - that alien
intelligence does exist - I do not know.
But I will not make veiled threats and innuendos.
Instead - I wish you every happiness Judy.
Regards
THE BORG

"THE BORG" <BORG@here.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Judy" <jalees@easynet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:46bf01e6$0$15214$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk...
>>
>> I want to say something that even you do not know.
>> Before your time, before you found yourself in an elevated position,
>> and before his time also, something happened that you know nothing about.
>> Always there has been an acceptance here that all of you were decent
>> people who were being steered wrong.
>> And so it was with you, and so it was with him.
>>
>> When events reveal themselves, in that way they have of doing which makes
>> their meaning absolutely clear and understood,
>> I believe that you will all be too ashamed of what you have done to want
>> to live with yourselves.
>>
>> Your dreams were over before they began, because of what you did not
>> know.
>>
>> always the innocent who get damaged, and so it has been.
>> and so it will be, even with you.
>> I believe that you were all innocent of the true nature of what was
>> happening.
>>
>> My only hope, is that somewhere along the line, somebody took the trouble
>> and care to look after those I love.
>> And kept them alive.
>>
>> It's not favouritism, it's just family, friends.
>> You might not care for your family, but I cared for mine.
>>
>> It's not possible to love everybody individually and completely.
>> You do it with those you love, and it spreads out.
>> Unless it can't. For some reason.
>>
>> Those who don't like to be judged, are the first to judge others.
>> And so it was with you.
>> You judged what you did not know
>> Yes, what you did not know.
>> Seems inconceivable that there could be something that you did not know.
>> But there was.
>> A big something, a powerful something.
>> That from behind clouded your knowledge and awareness.
>>
>> And prevented you from seeing what was true.
>> You judged the innocent and found them guilty.
>>
>> You acted on behalf of the guilty to attack the innocent.
>>
>> So many times I said don't do their work for them.
>>
>> I said that there is none so blind as those who think they can see.
>> But you relied on your senses, in that place, you relied on your senses.
>> Believing that you could escape the consequences of what has happened.
>>
>> Being powerful means totally, that you should not use that power.
>> Never in vengeance. Never in anger. Never ever cold-bloodedly.
>> The true holders of that power are those who love.
>>
>> And those who love are weeping.
>>
>>
> You always speak in these vague schizophrenia innuendos - thinking you
> have some great truth - but are too cowardly and dishonest to say or
> tell - rather be ambiguous like the typical deceitful woman.

I haven't read the rest of your tripe.
Good to see you have come out of the Borg closet.

You will find Robert somewhere in New Jersey.
Probably dumped in a swamp, if the pattern of previous despicable behaviour
was followed.
He was taken from here (where he had been protected)

It would have gone against the script that you are all following
if he had been safe.

Now you will find it is not just here you are fighting.

This is something that you can test for yourself.

Use your Borg legions to scan New Jersey.

"Judy" <jalees@easynet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I haven't read the rest of your tripe.

You are indeed a nasty individual as we have long known.


> You will find Robert somewhere in New Jersey.
> Probably dumped in a swamp, if the pattern of previous despicable
> behaviour was followed.
> He was taken from here (where he had been protected)
>
> It would have gone against the script that you are all following
> if he had been safe.
>
> Now you will find it is not just here you are fighting.
>
> This is something that you can test for yourself.
>
> Use your Borg legions to scan New Jersey.
>
And you say WE write tripe???
Regards
THE BORG

On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 13:49:40 +0100, Judy wrote:

>
> I said that there is none so blind as those who think they can see.
> But you relied on your senses, in that place, you relied on your senses.
> Believing that you could escape the consequences of what has happened.
>
> Being powerful means totally, that you should not use that power.
> Never in vengeance. Never in anger. Never ever cold-bloodedly.
> The true holders of that power are those who love.
>
> And those who love are weeping.

Mea Culpa

What now?