Schiz

Before someone is diagnosed with this do they know they have it?

I ask because my cpn thinks I may have it and so do i but i have yet to see
the consultant and get his diagnosis.

Also are there any decent sights where I can read up on oit

Since the Nineties schizophrenia has been defined as "having too
much dopamine".
Dopamine blockers had been used since the Forties to devastate
patients (prisoners) into submission, and they weren't addictive for the
guards. But now to justify the dopamine blocker industry, schizophrenia,
which in psychiatric nosology is equivalent to "miscellaneous", was
defined as having too much dopamine.
Before it was always said that schizophrenia was "functional",
which means almost equivalent to unreal, and that what it was is unknown
except for predefined incriminating stereotypes.
Dopamine does not cause hallucinations! I know: I lived with a
cocaine addict. Cocaine is a MAO inhibitor, which leaves abnormally high
amounts of dopamine in the nerve gaps. Cocaine addicts aren't actually
addicted to cocaine: they are addicted to their own dopamine. Cocaine
addiction is the worst addiction from the homeopathic lack of dopamine
being the worst withdrawal torment of any other drug. And we are
expected to suffer this torment by having our dopamine blocked off. "Now
it's time for revolution!"
Acetylcholine and glutamate can cause hallucinations. But,
schizophrenia now being defined as having too much dopamine, to justify
the sale of the dopamine blockers already waiting in warehouses, should
only be diagnosed after a positive brain biopsy for the actual presence
of "too much dopamne".
Inversely proportional to "Use it or lose it", use the dopamine
system to gain more. If you keep on spiking your dopamine your dopamine
system will produce more and more dopamine. So, by teaching people how
to spike their own dopamine we can give them schizophrenia, by the
current definition. For this go to "The Schizophrenian Manifesto" in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/anything-neuroscience/ and put The
Schizophrenian Manifesto in the search slot there. When everybody's
schizophrenic we'll rule and we'll be the norm.

I think it's even worse than what you say, Miguel. Big pharma isn't
conspiring with medicine to create schizophrenics. It just doesn't give a
damn if it creates them as long as it keeps making money.

Miki

"Miguel Lahunkun" <gellie418@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Since the Nineties schizophrenia has been defined as "having too
> much dopamine".
> Dopamine blockers had been used since the Forties to devastate
> patients (prisoners) into submission, and they weren't addictive for the
> guards. But now to justify the dopamine blocker industry, schizophrenia,
> which in psychiatric nosology is equivalent to "miscellaneous", was
> defined as having too much dopamine.
> Before it was always said that schizophrenia was "functional",
> which means almost equivalent to unreal, and that what it was is unknown
> except for predefined incriminating stereotypes.
> Dopamine does not cause hallucinations! I know: I lived with a
> cocaine addict. Cocaine is a MAO inhibitor, which leaves abnormally high
> amounts of dopamine in the nerve gaps. Cocaine addicts aren't actually
> addicted to cocaine: they are addicted to their own dopamine. Cocaine
> addiction is the worst addiction from the homeopathic lack of dopamine
> being the worst withdrawal torment of any other drug. And we are
> expected to suffer this torment by having our dopamine blocked off. "Now
> it's time for revolution!"
> Acetylcholine and glutamate can cause hallucinations. But,
> schizophrenia now being defined as having too much dopamine, to justify
> the sale of the dopamine blockers already waiting in warehouses, should
> only be diagnosed after a positive brain biopsy for the actual presence
> of "too much dopamne".
> Inversely proportional to "Use it or lose it", use the dopamine
> system to gain more. If you keep on spiking your dopamine your dopamine
> system will produce more and more dopamine. So, by teaching people how
> to spike their own dopamine we can give them schizophrenia, by the
> current definition. For this go to "The Schizophrenian Manifesto" in
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/anything-neuroscience/ and put The
> Schizophrenian Manifesto in the search slot there. When everybody's
> schizophrenic we'll rule and we'll be the norm.
>

I realized I had sz because in the emergency waiting to see the
psyciatrist because my sister kept telling me everything wasn't real.

I remember asking my sister "So I really don't have a radio transmitter
in my purse?" lol!

Sounds like you have good insight into your situation.

Schizophrenia.com is a good web site but I am skeptical of some of the
studies in news articles they publish.

penguin

"Miguel Lahunkun" <gellie418@webtv.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Since the Nineties schizophrenia has been defined as "having too
> much dopamine".
> Dopamine blockers had been used since the Forties to devastate
> patients (prisoners) into submission, and they weren't addictive for the
> guards. But now to justify the dopamine blocker industry, schizophrenia,
> which in psychiatric nosology is equivalent to "miscellaneous", was
> defined as having too much dopamine.

Dear M.L., dopamine blockers weren´t developed and known before late
sixties, early seventies. If the pharma industry wanted to make big money
before they would have thrown the meds much much earlier on the market than
the fourties.

> Before it was always said that schizophrenia was "functional",
> which means almost equivalent to unreal, and that what it was is unknown
> except for predefined incriminating stereotypes.
> Dopamine does not cause hallucinations! I know: I lived with a
> cocaine addict. Cocaine is a MAO inhibitor, which leaves abnormally high
> amounts of dopamine in the nerve gaps. Cocaine addicts aren't actually

Dear M.L not every cocaine addict gets schizophrenia their must be an
assessment for sz in order to get sz. Lets say 3% of the population is a
drug addict and 1 % of the population has sz, that doesn´t mean that 3% of
the pop. gets sz but 3% of the 1% with sz is a drug induced sz.

> addicted to cocaine: they are addicted to their own dopamine. Cocaine
> addiction is the worst addiction from the homeopathic lack of dopamine
> being the worst withdrawal torment of any other drug. And we are
> expected to suffer this torment by having our dopamine blocked off. "Now
> it's time for revolution!"

That´s a lie. See, cocaine addiction is not physical but only psychical. And
the psyche can be vary strong.
Cociane does not replace any neuro transmitter like heroin so you only get
addicted psychic and not physical like with heroin.

> Acetylcholine and glutamate can cause hallucinations. But,
> schizophrenia now being defined as having too much dopamine, to justify
> the sale of the dopamine blockers already waiting in warehouses, should
> only be diagnosed after a positive brain biopsy for the actual presence
> of "too much dopamne".
> Inversely proportional to "Use it or lose it", use the dopamine
> system to gain more. If you keep on spiking your dopamine your dopamine
> system will produce more and more dopamine. So, by teaching people how
> to spike their own dopamine we can give them schizophrenia, by the
> current definition. For this go to "The Schizophrenian Manifesto" in
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/anything-neuroscience/ and put The
> Schizophrenian Manifesto in the search slot there. When everybody's
> schizophrenic we'll rule and we'll be the norm.
>

Btw, i sometimes chew coca leaves and i am neither psychical nor physical
addicted to coca leaves.

Holy crap, *everybody* suddenly sounds completely different from the way
they always have in the past. I must be having one serious psychotic
episode.

Miki

"rainbowguardian" <robert_smrdelj@gmx.de> wrote in message
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>
> "Miguel Lahunkun" <gellie418@webtv.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:19409-46CABCF4-1126@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net...
>> Since the Nineties schizophrenia has been defined as "having too
>> much dopamine".
>> Dopamine blockers had been used since the Forties to devastate
>> patients (prisoners) into submission, and they weren't addictive for the
>> guards. But now to justify the dopamine blocker industry, schizophrenia,
>> which in psychiatric nosology is equivalent to "miscellaneous", was
>> defined as having too much dopamine.
>
> Dear M.L., dopamine blockers weren´t developed and known before late
> sixties, early seventies. If the pharma industry wanted to make big money
> before they would have thrown the meds much much earlier on the market
> than the fourties.
>
>> Before it was always said that schizophrenia was "functional",
>> which means almost equivalent to unreal, and that what it was is unknown
>> except for predefined incriminating stereotypes.
>> Dopamine does not cause hallucinations! I know: I lived with a
>> cocaine addict. Cocaine is a MAO inhibitor, which leaves abnormally high
>> amounts of dopamine in the nerve gaps. Cocaine addicts aren't actually
>
> Dear M.L not every cocaine addict gets schizophrenia their must be an
> assessment for sz in order to get sz. Lets say 3% of the population is a
> drug addict and 1 % of the population has sz, that doesn´t mean that 3% of
> the pop. gets sz but 3% of the 1% with sz is a drug induced sz.
>
>> addicted to cocaine: they are addicted to their own dopamine. Cocaine
>> addiction is the worst addiction from the homeopathic lack of dopamine
>> being the worst withdrawal torment of any other drug. And we are
>> expected to suffer this torment by having our dopamine blocked off. "Now
>> it's time for revolution!"
>
> That´s a lie. See, cocaine addiction is not physical but only psychical.
> And the psyche can be vary strong.
> Cociane does not replace any neuro transmitter like heroin so you only get
> addicted psychic and not physical like with heroin.
>
>> Acetylcholine and glutamate can cause hallucinations. But,
>> schizophrenia now being defined as having too much dopamine, to justify
>> the sale of the dopamine blockers already waiting in warehouses, should
>> only be diagnosed after a positive brain biopsy for the actual presence
>> of "too much dopamne".
>> Inversely proportional to "Use it or lose it", use the dopamine
>> system to gain more. If you keep on spiking your dopamine your dopamine
>> system will produce more and more dopamine. So, by teaching people how
>> to spike their own dopamine we can give them schizophrenia, by the
>> current definition. For this go to "The Schizophrenian Manifesto" in
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/anything-neuroscience/ and put The
>> Schizophrenian Manifesto in the search slot there. When everybody's
>> schizophrenic we'll rule and we'll be the norm.
>>
>
>

"Penguin A" <kola5z@webtv.net> wrote in message
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>
> I realized I had sz because in the emergency waiting to see the
> psyciatrist because my sister kept telling me everything wasn't real.
>
> I remember asking my sister "So I really don't have a radio transmitter
> in my purse?" lol!
>
> Sounds like you have good insight into your situation.
>
> Schizophrenia.com is a good web site but I am skeptical of some of the
> studies in news articles they publish.
>
> penguin

You've really reinvented yourself as a writer, Pen. In fact you sound like
somebody completely different.

Miki

"rainbowguardian" <robert_smrdelj@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Btw, i sometimes chew coca leaves and i am neither psychical nor physical
> addicted to coca leaves.

How about betel leaves? A very good sex manual recommends them.

Miki

"rainbowguardian" <robert_smrdelj@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Dear M.L., dopamine blockers weren´t developed and known before late
> sixties, early seventies. If the pharma industry wanted to make big money
> before they would have thrown the meds much much earlier on the market
> than the fourties.

Maybe the body/mind wasn't as accessible to the money makers in the same way
before then?

Is that good or bad, Miki? (referring to your comment about me)

penguin

"Penguin A" <kola5z@webtv.net> wrote in message
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>
> Is that good or bad, Miki? (referring to your comment about me)
>
> penguin

From the point of view of you having suddenly become superbly articulate and
elaborate in your messages, it's good. From the viewpoint of you having lost
the femininity and straightforward clarity of your prose, it's bad. From the
viewpoint that it makes me paranoid that some troll is posing as you, it's
terrible.

But the post I'm replying to sounds like the "usual" Penguin A I'm used to.
So I'm totally befuddled.

Miki

Cocaine blocks the monoamineoxidase (MAO) enzyme that takes the
dopamine from the nerve gaps. While this is being done for a while new
dopamine receptor sites grow to receive the extra dopamine made
available by the cocaine.
When the cocaine is gone the amount of dopamine in the nerve gaps
goes back to the body's normal amount, but, the new extra receptor sites
demand the extra dopamine that was allowed by the cocaine, but the
cocaine is unavailable now.
It is these receptor sites that cause the craving. With dopamine
blockers, also, dopamine receptor sites are left unsatisfied, and this
causes the torment a cocaine addict feels after his cocaine supply is
gone.
Cocaine addiction is the worst addiction. The pope of the will
power religion grew up in the Eighteen Hundreds when heroine and cocaine
were legal. His doctor gave him heroine for his asthma and he got
addicted to it. He also used cocaine. He could shake the heroine
addiction; but, with all the will power he was supposed to have, he
couldn't shake the cocaine addiction. Why? He felt like he was on
dopamine blockers while he wasn't using cocaine.
That's the torment of dopamine blockers. All we have to do is stop
taking the dopamine blockers and our natural God given dopamine returns
to normal.
We have a right to our own God given dopamine, and any
intervention to block it is "mind rape"!
It's an object, a dopamine blocker molecule, shoved into a hole, a
dopamine receptor site, against our wills!
Dopamine blockers have always been "lipophilic", which means fat
loving. As such they linger in the system, only slowly wearing off for a
long time. Hydrophilic drugs wash away in a few hours. How can we make
dopamine blockers wash away in a few hours as hydrophilic drugs? How can
we make drugs we want to keep in our systems, like gabapentin,
Neurontin, lipophilic? Does diphenhydramine, Benedryl, wash away
dopamine blockers or does it only overcome them for a while?
Dopamine blockers are a social disease. Let us not suffer form
this miserable disease.

"Miki Kocic" <isotope@mikikocic.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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>
> "rainbowguardian" <robert_smrdelj@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:5j1a6tF3s6d7fU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Btw, i sometimes chew coca leaves and i am neither psychical nor physical
>> addicted to coca leaves.
>
> How about betel leaves? A very good sex manual recommends them.
>
> Miki
>

I don´t know about betel leaves, but i once chewed betel nuts(that´s what
they do in asia), it´s kind of uplifting but they taste not so good like
soap or something.

"Judy" <jalees@easynet.co.uk> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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>
> "rainbowguardian" <robert_smrdelj@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:5j19k1F3s0f9dU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Dear M.L., dopamine blockers weren´t developed and known before late
>> sixties, early seventies. If the pharma industry wanted to make big money
>> before they would have thrown the meds much much earlier on the market
>> than the fourties.
>
> Maybe the body/mind wasn't as accessible to the money makers in the same
> way before then?
>
>

What i know is that haldol the probably first antipsy. has been developed
for a total diffrent purpose than sz(i don´t remember quiet well what for
but i think it was thought as a cough medizin) and was only incidently
discovered as an antipsy..

What i know from polytoxicomanics, that have taken heroin cocaine and a lot
more and especially who have smoked tobacco told me that the worst addiction
they have sufferred from is the tobacco addiction.

Once you start taking neuroleptic the equilibrium of a lot of
chemicals
in your brain, not just dopamine get redefined. As a result of this
new
equilibirium the symptoms of sz go away. Once you stop with the
meds a period of redefining a new equilibirium starts. In 33% of the
sz population this new equilibirium is healthy, other slowly fall back
to the state where they start experiencing symptoms of sz again

Berty

Hi Miki

I assure it's the real me. People tell me I'm very verbal in person but
quiet at the same time.

On line I usually just write short posts because I get too paranoid.

penguin

It has been written, like history, that Thorazine and the
phenothiazines were the first dopamine blockers.
And, I gave up a heavy, five packs a day, smoking habit over
thirty years ago; and, even booze, which I gave up two years ago. is a
much more severe habit, much harder to break than tobacco.
When ether breaks down in the brain, each ether molecule breaks
down into two ethanol molecules, by chemical reaction with its
environment. Booze is an anesthetic, "from the pain of living Ace; from
the pain of living".

When I was in Holland I had my first and last sample of cocaine. I
sniffed several lines of cocaine. I got a thrill; a very familiar thrill
that I can get elsewhere. When I smell the strong breath of a woman I
get that thrill. The stronger the better. There is black darkness in the
center, and I love black darkness. And it's better than the best
licorice you can buy. As is said in Alchemy 61, it is synesthetically
onomatopoeic with the Lost Word, eyennnnn, the sound of a pipe. It is
the Lost Word of the Royal Arch found in a well, a cylindrical well. The
Hebrew words for well, ring, eye, and nothingness are all the same
"ain", eyennnn. Every time I just think of this sound I get
that thrill as from a large dose of cocaine. In this way I encourage my
brain to produce more and more dopamine. Surely today I have "too much
dopamine", the recent definition of schizophrenia. Just pass this sound
around and make everybody schizophrenic. We will then be the norm.

Now I can say that that sound, the Lost Word, is the authentic
sound sold by Transcendental Meditation. All of these meditators have
become schizophrenic by contemporary standards. Only those who pass
T.M.'s secret testing are given this Lost Word. Those who seem insincere
are giving a useless sound like "aum" or "unn" or something. Supposedly
I think I can't get sued by putting this in a post that doesn't present
the sound in the same post. But, I have nothing to lose. I'm homeless
and on the run for not submitting to the sex offenders' lists. Why
bother signing up a homeless shelter on a sex offenders list. I also
like women's jewelry, rotted by sweat the way it used to be in the good
old days. I was arrested in Massachusetts for attempting to buy a
"fetish" in a thrift store. Absolutely victimless, unless you believe in
Voodoo. And twenty-five years later the compulsory sex offender listing
was imposed ex post facto. And. it's the most dangerous list because the
"fetish" was a woman's necklace.

"Miguel Lahunkun" <gellie418@webtv.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> It has been written, like history, that Thorazine and the
> phenothiazines were the first dopamine blockers.

I said that haldol is "probably"! the first, because i don´t know for sure.

> And, I gave up a heavy, five packs a day, smoking habit over
> thirty years ago; and, even booze, which I gave up two years ago. is a
> much more severe habit, much harder to break than tobacco.

I don´t think so, i personally know alcoholics and other drug abusers who
thold me that tobbacco is the worst addiction.

> When ether breaks down in the brain, each ether molecule breaks
> down into two ethanol molecules, by chemical reaction with its
> environment. Booze is an anesthetic, "from the pain of living Ace; from
> the pain of living".
>

I don´t care about that.

Thorazine was one of the phenothiazines, then later Haldol came
out as one of the haloperidols. Haldol was more complicated and lead to
complications, for example, some patients responded to Haldol with
convulsions so severe that they caused spinal injuries.
The extent of addiction was like that for me between tobacco and
booze. Booze is a total anesthetic. It gets rid of all the problem,
temporarily. But, booze is a two way trip. Tobacco doesn't do much in
getting rid of the problem of life. Booze does. "For the pain of life
Ace. For the pain of life". That's from a movie called "Spellbinder".
"If I don't look out for you Ace, who will?"

If you don't look into the symbolism here you'll miss the point. I
saw the movie. That lawyer in the lawfirm where Tim had started working
was always helping him alone, for, Tim lived alone since his parents
died. And, this lawyer was always saying to Tim, "If I don't look after
you Ace, Who will?" He said this to Tim all through the movie. And, then
at the end Tim had been tricked into going to a Satanic sacrifice, Tim
turned out to be the sacrificial lamb and that lawer again said to him
as he got ready to cut his heart out, "If I don't look after you Ace,
who will?"


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