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Old 03-30-2007, 05:14 PM
Phin
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Default It seems like even the psychiatrists are becoming unsure now

Perhaps it is just me but it seems like the psychiatrists are becoming
unsure now of what they are doing. I think that it has been that way
for several years. I believe this is a good sign though.

Phin
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Old 03-31-2007, 01:54 AM
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:23:43 GMT, Phin <someone@somewhere.net> wrote:

>Perhaps it is just me but it seems like the psychiatrists are becoming
>unsure now of what they are doing. I think that it has been that way
>for several years. I believe this is a good sign though.
>
>Phin


My shrink is a clueless idiot. I tell him something is no good for me,
yet he then writes a script for it. He claims my insurance won't pay
for ambien, but a quick check and sure enough, they will cover it.
Then to top it off, this last time I went he wrote a script for 1500mg
of depakiote when I'm supposed to have 2000mg.
He is not unsure, he's totAlly clueless..lol

Chris


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Old 03-31-2007, 01:54 AM
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 16:15:44 -0400, Coconut <pegboy_30@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:23:43 GMT, Phin <someone@somewhere.net> wrote:
>
>>Perhaps it is just me but it seems like the psychiatrists are becoming
>>unsure now of what they are doing. I think that it has been that way
>>for several years. I believe this is a good sign though.
>>
>>Phin

>
>My shrink is a clueless idiot. I tell him something is no good for me,
>yet he then writes a script for it. He claims my insurance won't pay
>for ambien, but a quick check and sure enough, they will cover it.
>Then to top it off, this last time I went he wrote a script for 1500mg
>of depakiote when I'm supposed to have 2000mg.
>He is not unsure, he's totAlly clueless..lol
>
>Chris
>
>


Maybe your psychiatrist needs some medication for his thinking
problem.

Phin
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Old 03-31-2007, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: It seems like even the psychiatrists are becoming unsure now

On 30 mrt, 17:23, Phin <some...@somewhere.net> wrote:
> Perhaps it is just me but it seems like the psychiatrists are becoming
> unsure now of what they are doing. I think that it has been that way
> for several years. I believe this is a good sign though.
>
> Phin


My psychiatrist makes appointments of 15 minutes.
What can be said in 15 minutes? You have to be straight to
the point what you want. Psychiatrist here are for writing out
prescriptions of meds, they are docters. I have a social psychiatric
nurse I see every 6 weeks for smalltalk and how I am doing.
I don't think they are unsure of what they are doing, but they
have to hurry up because they have so many patients, so in the
case of somebody who cannot say into words quite easily what
is wrong with him, because he is half psychotic for instance there
is a danger they write out the wrong meds.

Berty

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Old 03-31-2007, 05:01 PM
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I sometimes wonder if the psych doctors started those very short
appointments because it was discovered that the only good they do is
medication checks. All the talking they do can often makes things worse.
But they at least can be in charge of the meds since they are MD.

"Adamski_Rasputin" <adamskirasputin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On 30 mrt, 17:23, Phin <some...@somewhere.net> wrote:
> > Perhaps it is just me but it seems like the psychiatrists are becoming
> > unsure now of what they are doing. I think that it has been that way
> > for several years. I believe this is a good sign though.
> >
> > Phin

>
> My psychiatrist makes appointments of 15 minutes.
> What can be said in 15 minutes? You have to be straight to
> the point what you want. Psychiatrist here are for writing out
> prescriptions of meds, they are docters. I have a social psychiatric
> nurse I see every 6 weeks for smalltalk and how I am doing.
> I don't think they are unsure of what they are doing, but they
> have to hurry up because they have so many patients, so in the
> case of somebody who cannot say into words quite easily what
> is wrong with him, because he is half psychotic for instance there
> is a danger they write out the wrong meds.
>
> Berty
>



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Old 03-31-2007, 10:11 PM
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I think docs can pick up alot in just hello how are you. If that
can't figure you out, they might extend the 15 minutes a bit. That's
ofcourse if you have a doc that fits you. Call your insurance
provider and get a list of docs that they work with. Then try
googling them and see if you can find any info on them. If you like
shopping, this might be fun.

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Old 03-31-2007, 10:11 PM
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On 31 mrt, 18:24, "Erik the Red" <spock_smo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I think docs can pick up alot in just hello how are you. If that
> can't figure you out, they might extend the 15 minutes a bit. That's
> ofcourse if you have a doc that fits you. Call your insurance
> provider and get a list of docs that they work with. Then try
> googling them and see if you can find any info on them. If you like
> shopping, this might be fun.


It works a bit different in the Netherlands here. You have no choice
in a psychiatrist here. They look in what area you live and say you
belong to that team and every team has his psychiatrist. Not that
I am very unhappy with my psychiatrist, he is a polite man, but always
in a hurry. I can always talk to my spv (social psychiatric nurse) and
he has all the time for me and knows a lot about meds too and their
sideaffects.

Berty

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Old 03-31-2007, 10:11 PM
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On 31 mrt, 16:35, "Just Me" <jus...@nospam.com> wrote:
> I sometimes wonder if the psych doctors started those very short
> appointments because it was discovered that the only good they do is
> medication checks. All the talking they do can often makes things worse.
> But they at least can be in charge of the meds since they are MD.
>
> "Adamski_Rasputin" <adamskiraspu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1175330059.915484.311520@e65g2000hsc.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
> > On 30 mrt, 17:23, Phin <some...@somewhere.net> wrote:
> > > Perhaps it is just me but it seems like the psychiatrists are becoming
> > > unsure now of what they are doing. I think that it has been that way
> > > for several years. I believe this is a good sign though.

>
> > > Phin

>
> > My psychiatrist makes appointments of 15 minutes.
> > What can be said in 15 minutes? You have to be straight to
> > the point what you want. Psychiatrist here are for writing out
> > prescriptions of meds, they are docters. I have a social psychiatric
> > nurse I see every 6 weeks for smalltalk and how I am doing.
> > I don't think they are unsure of what they are doing, but they
> > have to hurry up because they have so many patients, so in the
> > case of somebody who cannot say into words quite easily what
> > is wrong with him, because he is half psychotic for instance there
> > is a danger they write out the wrong meds.

>
> > Berty- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -

>
> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -


My psychiatrist leaves the talking to the spv (social psychiatric
nurse)
and concentrates on the med prescription.
For instance one can see his spv or case manager every week
and see the psychiatrist every three months here if everything goes
well.

Berty

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Old 03-31-2007, 10:11 PM
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Here you can talk with a counselor or psychologist for personal
issues. Although in a hospital setting, the majority of group
therapies are done by nurses.
I saw a counselor when I lived with my parents, but it did more harm
than good. Some people do well with counseling - like a boost to
morale. I guess that's why some bartenders get such big tips and
regular customers. My uncle and aunt owned a tavern in my neighbor
hood for like 30 years. They were very good with dealing with other
peoples problems.

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Old 04-01-2007, 01:40 AM
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On 31 Mar 2007 13:04:21 -0700, "Erik the Red"
<spock_smokes@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Here you can talk with a counselor or psychologist for personal
>issues. Although in a hospital setting, the majority of group
>therapies are done by nurses.
>I saw a counselor when I lived with my parents, but it did more harm
>than good. Some people do well with counseling - like a boost to
>morale. I guess that's why some bartenders get such big tips and
>regular customers. My uncle and aunt owned a tavern in my neighbor
>hood for like 30 years. They were very good with dealing with other
>peoples problems.




Maybe I'm cold hearted, but hearing others problems all the time would
drive me up the wall, even if I was making money doing it..lol
Chris
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Old 04-01-2007, 01:40 AM
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On 31 Mar 2007 01:34:19 -0700, "Adamski_Rasputin"
<adamskirasputin@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On 30 mrt, 17:23, Phin <some...@somewhere.net> wrote:
>> Perhaps it is just me but it seems like the psychiatrists are becoming
>> unsure now of what they are doing. I think that it has been that way
>> for several years. I believe this is a good sign though.
>>
>> Phin

>
>My psychiatrist makes appointments of 15 minutes.
>What can be said in 15 minutes? You have to be straight to
>the point what you want. Psychiatrist here are for writing out
>prescriptions of meds, they are docters. I have a social psychiatric
>nurse I see every 6 weeks for smalltalk and how I am doing.
>I don't think they are unsure of what they are doing, but they
>have to hurry up because they have so many patients, so in the
>case of somebody who cannot say into words quite easily what
>is wrong with him, because he is half psychotic for instance there
> is a danger they write out the wrong meds.
>
>Berty



I have the same problem - lack of time with the shrink. He doesn't ask
how I am or if I want to die or kill anyone. No security for myself or
others at all. I hate to think what should happen if a suicidal person
went in and wasn't questioned.

Chris.
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