Seriously considering leaving.

I'm seriously considering leaving my wife and kid, soon to be kids. I
fed up with the in-laws. Life in South Africa. The constant nagging
"reading books is a waste of life" I mean really what kind of arsehole
thinks that.

My wife is nagging and expects the world from me. To pay more
attention to the kid. I just don't feel like it I have my ups and
downs. I'm schizoaffective, obviously not built for relationships. She
doesn't understand it, neither do the in-laws. I'm pissed off home
sick and couldn't give a shit about any of them except maybe baby
Jessica. I would take her back to the UK if I could. However, the
father in-law would probably hunt me down and literally kill me, I
mean it. He's fucked, he's wife is fucked. The whole damn family is
fucked.

I think I prefered my life in the UK. I'm currently working and
seriously thinking of abounderning all this shit to come back to
blighty and start my life again.

Just need to ask my parents if I can move back in with them in Leigh-
on-Sea, Essex.

On Sep 7, 10:26 am, ChrisC <chrisp...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I'm seriously considering leaving my wife and kid, soon to be kids. I
> fed up with the in-laws. Life in South Africa. The constant nagging
> "reading books is a waste of life" I mean really what kind of arsehole
> thinks that.
>
> My wife is nagging and expects the world from me. To pay more
> attention to the kid. I just don't feel like it I have my ups and
> downs. I'm schizoaffective, obviously not built for relationships. She
> doesn't understand it, neither do the in-laws. I'm pissed off home
> sick and couldn't give a shit about any of them except maybe baby
> Jessica. I would take her back to the UK if I could. However, the
> father in-law would probably hunt me down and literally kill me, I
> mean it. He's fucked, he's wife is fucked. The whole damn family is
> fucked.
>
> I think I prefered my life in the UK. I'm currently working and
> seriously thinking of abounderning all this shit to come back to
> blighty and start my life again.
>
> Just need to ask my parents if I can move back in with them in Leigh-
> on-Sea, Essex.

When I was having a breakdown a few years ago I forced my wife to
leave me. I couldnt cope with a relationship either. Nor my mother in
law living with me for three to six months of the year from Russia.
Now I feel sorry that this happened because the relationship would
probably have lasted otherwise. Spent the last few years not meeting
women of any shape or form until recently when I am beginning to meet
women again.

On Sep 7, 5:26 am, ChrisC <chrisp...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I'm seriously considering leaving my wife and kid, soon to be kids. I
> fed up with the in-laws. Life in South Africa. The constant nagging
> "reading books is a waste of life" I mean really what kind of arsehole
> thinks that.
>
> My wife is nagging and expects the world from me. To pay more
> attention to the kid. I just don't feel like it I have my ups and
> downs.

Any chance you can just take your daughter and carry her around, the
library (That'll learn the book basher). The Pharmacy, the Pizza
parlor. Don't talk to her, but feel her as an extension of you. Then
miracle of miracles, you may learn to like you, cause you love her
(can't help it) and she's part of you...whether she's in the form of
luggage or person.

i think my father went through similar ways of thinking. I remember
me and him fist fighting, he's screaming, "I'm 53, I ain't a goddam
babysitter.", talking about my youngest sister.

I'm over 50, never had a kid. I envy the guys, messed up as they may
appear, who have a kid they made at 23 or so, who comes back and
becomes their adult friend. The guys always try to make up for the
lost years. I get more domestic, it's an age thing. Still got that
rambling gene though. Can't do it, locked here, but I moved back to
the family once 20 years ago. Ugh. At least with the wife, you can
ask her to stop nagging. At home with Mom, nothing ever changes.

Peace
frett
I'm schizoaffective, obviously not built for relationships. She
> doesn't understand it, neither do the in-laws. I'm pissed off home
> sick and couldn't give a shit about any of them except maybe baby
> Jessica. I would take her back to the UK if I could. However, the
> father in-law would probably hunt me down and literally kill me, I
> mean it. He's fucked, he's wife is fucked. The whole damn family is
> fucked.
>
> I think I prefered my life in the UK. I'm currently working and
> seriously thinking of abounderning all this shit to come back to
> blighty and start my life again.
>
> Just need to ask my parents if I can move back in with them in Leigh-
> on-Sea, Essex.

Leaving might not be the best answer.

On Sep 7, 2:26 am, ChrisC <chrisp...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I'm seriously considering leaving my wife and kid, soon to be kids. I
> fed up with the in-laws. Life in South Africa. The constant nagging
> "reading books is a waste of life" I mean really what kind of arsehole
> thinks that.
>
> My wife is nagging and expects the world from me. To pay more
> attention to the kid. I just don't feel like it I have my ups and
> downs. I'm schizoaffective, obviously not built for relationships. She
> doesn't understand it, neither do the in-laws. I'm pissed off home
> sick and couldn't give a shit about any of them except maybe baby
> Jessica. I would take her back to the UK if I could. However, the
> father in-law would probably hunt me down and literally kill me, I
> mean it. He's fucked, he's wife is fucked. The whole damn family is
> fucked.
>
> I think I prefered my life in the UK. I'm currently working and
> seriously thinking of abounderning all this shit to come back to
> blighty and start my life again.
>
> Just need to ask my parents if I can move back in with them in Leigh-
> on-Sea, Essex.

schizophrenia can be cured with radical spiritual understanding which
is all about relationship. Relationship feels better than non
relationship which is what schizophrenia actually is. Its as simple as
that. Read my post the cure for schizophrenia.

Roky

Clonazapam makes relationships less stressful. Ask the doctor about it.


"ChrisC" <chrispche@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:1189157202.786735.64660@22g2000hsm.googlegrou ps.com...
> I'm seriously considering leaving my wife and kid, soon to be kids. I
> fed up with the in-laws. Life in South Africa. The constant nagging
> "reading books is a waste of life" I mean really what kind of arsehole
> thinks that.
>
> My wife is nagging and expects the world from me. To pay more
> attention to the kid. I just don't feel like it I have my ups and
> downs. I'm schizoaffective, obviously not built for relationships. She
> doesn't understand it, neither do the in-laws. I'm pissed off home
> sick and couldn't give a shit about any of them except maybe baby
> Jessica. I would take her back to the UK if I could. However, the
> father in-law would probably hunt me down and literally kill me, I
> mean it. He's fucked, he's wife is fucked. The whole damn family is
> fucked.
>
> I think I prefered my life in the UK. I'm currently working and
> seriously thinking of abounderning all this shit to come back to
> blighty and start my life again.
>
> Just need to ask my parents if I can move back in with them in Leigh-
> on-Sea, Essex.
>

On 7 sep, 21:38, "Quiet Neighbor" <priv...@spamless.net> wrote:
> Clonazapam makes relationships less stressful. Ask the doctor about it.
>
> "ChrisC" <chrisp...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1189157202.786735.64660@22g2000hsm.googlegrou ps.com...
>
>
>
> > I'm seriously considering leaving my wife and kid, soon to be kids. I
> > fed up with the in-laws. Life in South Africa. The constant nagging
> > "reading books is a waste of life" I mean really what kind of arsehole
> > thinks that.
>
> > My wife is nagging and expects the world from me. To pay more
> > attention to the kid. I just don't feel like it I have my ups and
> > downs. I'm schizoaffective, obviously not built for relationships. She
> > doesn't understand it, neither do the in-laws. I'm pissed off home
> > sick and couldn't give a shit about any of them except maybe baby
> > Jessica. I would take her back to the UK if I could. However, the
> > father in-law would probably hunt me down and literally kill me, I
> > mean it. He's fucked, he's wife is fucked. The whole damn family is
> > fucked.
>
> > I think I prefered my life in the UK. I'm currently working and
> > seriously thinking of abounderning all this shit to come back to
> > blighty and start my life again.
>
> > Just need to ask my parents if I can move back in with them in Leigh-
> > on-Sea, Essex.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
>
> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -

Ahum, this sounds as quite a dilemma. So you feel not happy at the
moment.
The easy way out is leaving. But you have mood swings.

Berty

"ChrisC" <chrispche@googlemail.com> wrote

<snip>

> Just need to ask my parents if I can move back in with them in Leigh-
> on-Sea, Essex.
>

hopefully they'll have the good sense to say "NO!"

On Sep 8, 3:15 am, roky <rokyb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 7, 2:26 am, ChrisC <chrisp...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I'm seriously considering leaving my wife and kid, soon to be kids. I
> > fed up with the in-laws. Life in South Africa. The constant nagging
> > "reading books is a waste of life" I mean really what kind of arsehole
> > thinks that.
>
> > My wife is nagging and expects the world from me. To pay more
> > attention to the kid. I just don't feel like it I have my ups and
> > downs. I'm schizoaffective, obviously not built for relationships. She
> > doesn't understand it, neither do the in-laws. I'm pissed off home
> > sick and couldn't give a shit about any of them except maybe baby
> > Jessica. I would take her back to the UK if I could. However, the
> > father in-law would probably hunt me down and literally kill me, I
> > mean it. He's fucked, he's wife is fucked. The whole damn family is
> > fucked.
>
> > I think I prefered my life in the UK. I'm currently working and
> > seriously thinking of abounderning all this shit to come back to
> > blighty and start my life again.
>
> > Just need to ask my parents if I can move back in with them in Leigh-
> > on-Sea, Essex.
>
> schizophrenia can be cured with radical spiritual understanding which
> is all about relationship. Relationship feels better than non
> relationship which is what schizophrenia actually is. Its as simple as
> that. Read my post the cure for schizophrenia.

That's a truely interesting comment. It might be true in some cases,
however not all. I have a mild case of it and am totally not able to
form
a relationship. The person I live with ATM has paranoid version of it
since 18. Had a wife and two kids though and is very intelligent. Now
is divorced. Calculus, algebra, electronics, cars, tricks to play to
get
out of taking meds - he knows his stuff.

So, I don't think that is a conclusive comment, however there is some
truth there.

On Sep 7, 5:26 am, ChrisC <chrisp...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I'm seriously considering leaving my wife and kid, soon to be kids. I
> fed up with the in-laws. Life in South Africa. The constant nagging
> "reading books is a waste of life" I mean really what kind of arsehole
> thinks that.
>
> My wife is nagging and expects the world from me. To pay more
> attention to the kid. I just don't feel like it I have my ups and
> downs. I'm schizoaffective, obviously not built for relationships.

You're obviously capable *enough* of being in a relationship that you
somehow acquired a wife and kid, with another on the way. It's
incredibly selfish to consider opting out just because you don't like
your current circumstances. Try doing something to change them that
doesn't leave two kids growing up without a father.

She
> doesn't understand it, neither do the in-laws. I'm pissed off home
> sick and couldn't give a shit about any of them except maybe baby
> Jessica. I would take her back to the UK if I could. However, the
> father in-law would probably hunt me down and literally kill me, I
> mean it. He's fucked, he's wife is fucked. The whole damn family is
> fucked.
>
> I think I prefered my life in the UK. I'm currently working and
> seriously thinking of abounderning all this shit to come back to
> blighty and start my life again.
>
> Just need to ask my parents if I can move back in with them in Leigh-
> on-Sea, Essex.

I think you need to grow up and take responsibility for the family you
made.

No "normal" person will ever understand how hard it is for you.
Having 2 kids will test your limits for sure. I understand your
situation. When you're feeling good, you think you can take on the
world and make your life harder for when you're not feeling well.
Just don't have any more kids damnit.

Marcia's point is well-taken; however there are a couple of caveats.

a) Not everybody grows up

b) Even if they do, if they hang out with kids they don't really want
to be with, the kids may well (and often do) grow up saying that
they'd have been better off if their parents hadn't "stayed together
just for the kids sake".

If Chris's problem is just an adjustment disorder type thing, some
counseling and maybe peer mentoring would be helpful.

I have learned one thing, if nothing else, which is that people do
what they WANT to do. Chris was "seriously considering" this some
time ago, and is still there. I suspect this is a ventilatory outlet,
and that ultimately he has no intentions of leaving.

Gary

I can understand wanting to leave your spouse, but not your kid(s).
Struggling with a mental illness (or two) and maintaining a romantic
relationship is hard work. I had a rough patch with my spouse when I
was manic and all I wanted to do was leave, but I had every intention
of taking my son with me. Thankfully my husband wouldn't let me take
my son and there was no way I was going without him, Instead I got
help and thank god I did. Lord knows I was in no condition at that
time to care for my son.

My Dad decided that he needed to be "free" when I was 12 and to this
day I do not wish to have any type of relationship with him. I would
think long and hard about whether you are prepared for the life long
consequences of leaving your children.

I would think that talk therapy WITH your spouse is necessary before you
leave your family. Threatening your spouse with leaving because you can't
hack it ultimately scares your spouse and, in turn, your children learn to
cautious and fearful growing up in a threatening environment like that. You
owe it to your family and yourself to give things a fair shot before you
take a pass on leaving your wife pregnant and alone. Regardless of whether
you have mental illness or not it takes two people in a marriage. I have
found that thru two marriages(first went bust and second is still together)
that I had always had methods of communicating with my wife that sucked at
times. In other words, sometimes things didn't work because of ME. Your wife
can't change her parents BUT she can change the manner in which she supports
you in your dealings with them. My first marriage included in-laws that were
tough and the second one includes in-laws that live in another on the other
side of the world. Consequently, they have never been an issue. Through all
of it if you don't work with your partner to solve problems you will run
away and maybe eventually repeat the same problems with your next partner
regardless of different circumstances and different in-laws. We are all
different but, trust me, running away from your problems because people
"suck" won't help you relate to anyone in your life. It will only guarantee
that you will make the same mistakes with someone different down the road.


"amoodapart" <mfm533@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189345526.379205.184780@r29g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>I can understand wanting to leave your spouse, but not your kid(s).
> Struggling with a mental illness (or two) and maintaining a romantic
> relationship is hard work. I had a rough patch with my spouse when I
> was manic and all I wanted to do was leave, but I had every intention
> of taking my son with me. Thankfully my husband wouldn't let me take
> my son and there was no way I was going without him, Instead I got
> help and thank god I did. Lord knows I was in no condition at that
> time to care for my son.
>
> My Dad decided that he needed to be "free" when I was 12 and to this
> day I do not wish to have any type of relationship with him. I would
> think long and hard about whether you are prepared for the life long
> consequences of leaving your children.
>

"ChrisC" <chrispche@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:1189157202.786735.64660@22g2000hsm.googlegrou ps.com...
> I'm seriously considering leaving my wife and kid, soon to be kids. I
> fed up with the in-laws. Life in South Africa. The constant nagging
> "reading books is a waste of life" I mean really what kind of arsehole
> thinks that.
>
> My wife is nagging and expects the world from me. To pay more
> attention to the kid. I just don't feel like it I have my ups and
> downs. I'm schizoaffective, obviously not built for relationships. She
> doesn't understand it, neither do the in-laws. I'm pissed off home
> sick and couldn't give a shit about any of them except maybe baby
> Jessica. I would take her back to the UK if I could. However, the
> father in-law would probably hunt me down and literally kill me, I
> mean it. He's fucked, he's wife is fucked. The whole damn family is
> fucked.
>
> I think I prefered my life in the UK. I'm currently working and
> seriously thinking of abounderning all this shit to come back to
> blighty and start my life again.
>
> Just need to ask my parents if I can move back in with them in Leigh-
> on-Sea, Essex.
>
Hi Chris,
My husband left his home country to be with me. It is an enormous
adjustment. Whatever decision you make, take your time and try to get some
objective counseling.
Meryl

On 9 Set, 16:39, "Meryl" <meryl.nNOS...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "ChrisC" <chrisp...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1189157202.786735.64660@22g2000hsm.googlegrou ps.com...
>
> > I'm seriously considering leaving my wife and kid, soon to be kids. I
> > fed up with the in-laws. Life in South Africa. The constant nagging
> > "reading books is a waste of life" I mean really what kind of arsehole
> > thinks that.
>
> > My wife is nagging and expects the world from me. To pay more
> > attention to the kid. I just don't feel like it I have my ups and
> > downs. I'm schizoaffective, obviously not built for relationships. She
> > doesn't understand it, neither do the in-laws. I'm pissed off home
> > sick and couldn't give a shit about any of them except maybe baby
> > Jessica. I would take her back to the UK if I could. However, the
> > father in-law would probably hunt me down and literally kill me, I
> > mean it. He's fucked, he's wife is fucked. The whole damn family is
> > fucked.
>
> > I think I prefered my life in the UK. I'm currently working and
> > seriously thinking of abounderning all this shit to come back to
> > blighty and start my life again.
>
> > Just need to ask my parents if I can move back in with them in Leigh-
> > on-Sea, Essex.
>
> Hi Chris,
> My husband left his home country to be with me. It is an enormous
> adjustment. Whatever decision you make, take your time and try to get some
> objective counseling.
> Meryl

for...."Chris"<chrisp....@googlemail.com

Reading and reading up and down of your messages quite
your in a difficult situation. But whatsoever your plan and decision
might you think could benefits on both parties do it.
Nobody could help you except you.
We are only here just to gives comment and opinion
but in real we don't know yet the actual situation.
Be mature enough analyze further and reconsider
really the kids. Take note kids is our inspiration in our worth while
living.

Nil

On Sep 7, 9:08 pm, Erik the Red <spock_smo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> No "normal" person will ever understand how hard it is for you.
> Having 2 kids will test your limits for sure. I understand your
> situation. When you're feeling good, you think you can take on the
> world and make your life harder for when you're not feeling well.
> Just don't have any more kids damnit.

<<When you're feeling good, you think you can take on the
world and make your life harder for when you're not feeling well. >>

An insightful statement. Maybe that's why my life is so circular.
Peace.

Frett

"Meryl" <meryl.nNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:46e484d1$0$14170$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Whatever decision you make, take your time and try to get some objective
> counseling.

The American Psychological Associated gutted it's ethics code it a
resolution it approved in 2002.

Any member of 961 local, state, and/or federal law enforcement can
require any counselor to provide LEA confidential info provided, and/or
misuse psychological knowledge to perpetrate the ultimate FUCK job on the
client.

Under NO circumstances ought any american ever consult a counselor,
psychologist, psychotherapist, social worker.

You are not the first, and not the last.
Broken relationships are not common only to schizophrenics.
Perhaps you should be open to your wife and tell her this instead
of posting here.

Greets, Branimir.

On Sep 7, 11:26 am, ChrisC <chrisp...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I'm seriously considering leaving my wife and kid, soon to be kids. I
> fed up with the in-laws. Life in South Africa. The constant nagging
> "reading books is a waste of life" I mean really what kind of arsehole
> thinks that.
>
> My wife is nagging and expects the world from me. To pay more
> attention to the kid. I just don't feel like it I have my ups and
> downs. I'm schizoaffective, obviously not built for relationships. She
> doesn't understand it, neither do the in-laws. I'm pissed off home
> sick and couldn't give a shit about any of them except maybe baby
> Jessica. I would take her back to the UK if I could. However, the
> father in-law would probably hunt me down and literally kill me, I
> mean it. He's fucked, he's wife is fucked. The whole damn family is
> fucked.
>
> I think I prefered my life in the UK. I'm currently working and
> seriously thinking of abounderning all this shit to come back to
> blighty and start my life again.
>
> Just need to ask my parents if I can move back in with them in Leigh-
> on-Sea, Essex.

On Sep 10, 7:45 am, Branimir Maksimovic <bm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> You are not the first, and not the last.
> Broken relationships are not common only to schizophrenics.
> Perhaps you should be open to your wife and tell her this instead
> of posting here.
>
> Greets, Branimir.
>
> On Sep 7, 11:26 am, ChrisC <chrisp...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm seriously considering leaving my wife and kid, soon to be kids. I
> > fed up with the in-laws. Life in South Africa. The constant nagging
> > "reading books is a waste of life" I mean really what kind of arsehole
> > thinks that.
>
> > My wife is nagging and expects the world from me. To pay more
> > attention to the kid. I just don't feel like it I have my ups and
> > downs. I'm schizoaffective, obviously not built for relationships. She
> > doesn't understand it, neither do the in-laws. I'm pissed off home
> > sick and couldn't give a shit about any of them except maybe baby
> > Jessica. I would take her back to the UK if I could. However, the
> > father in-law would probably hunt me down and literally kill me, I
> > mean it. He's fucked, he's wife is fucked. The whole damn family is
> > fucked.
>
> > I think I prefered my life in the UK. I'm currently working and
> > seriously thinking of abounderning all this shit to come back to
> > blighty and start my life again.
>
> > Just need to ask my parents if I can move back in with them in Leigh-
> > on-Sea, Essex.

It's all been sorted. Yes, my parents have offered to pay for a plain
ticket to the UK. I spoke to my wife and she thinks this is a good
idea. I was thinking of Christmas that way I can see all my family
together.

My wife wants to kick me out because she find's it hard to deal with
my mental health issues. I told her that she deals with it and I stay
and try real hard to do what I have to do. Or I go. The ball is in her
court and she has yet to come to a decision. My feeling is she is
going to want me to stay and try and live with my schizoaffective dis-
order. And bring up our family. In the mean time I have to ignore her
families snidey comments.

"indomitable2" <indomitable2@somewhere.net> wrote in message
news:13e9mc4asksc41b@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Meryl" <meryl.nNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:46e484d1$0$14170$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> Whatever decision you make, take your time and try to get some objective
>> counseling.
>
> The American Psychological Associated gutted it's ethics code it a
> resolution it approved in 2002.
>
> Any member of 961 local, state, and/or federal law enforcement can
> require any counselor to provide LEA confidential info provided, and/or
> misuse psychological knowledge to perpetrate the ultimate FUCK job on the
> client.
>
> Under NO circumstances ought any american ever consult a counselor,
> psychologist, psychotherapist, social worker.
>
>
>
Your opinion has not no relevance to this situation. The poster is not an
American, nor is he in the US.
Meryl

"ChrisC" <chrispche@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:1189408582.275986.280900@y42g2000hsy.googlegr oups.com...
> On Sep 10, 7:45 am, Branimir Maksimovic <bm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> You are not the first, and not the last.
>> Broken relationships are not common only to schizophrenics.
>> Perhaps you should be open to your wife and tell her this instead
>> of posting here.
>>
>> Greets, Branimir.
>>
>> On Sep 7, 11:26 am, ChrisC <chrisp...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I'm seriously considering leaving my wife and kid, soon to be kids. I
>> > fed up with the in-laws. Life in South Africa. The constant nagging
>> > "reading books is a waste of life" I mean really what kind of arsehole
>> > thinks that.
>>
>> > My wife is nagging and expects the world from me. To pay more
>> > attention to the kid. I just don't feel like it I have my ups and
>> > downs. I'm schizoaffective, obviously not built for relationships. She
>> > doesn't understand it, neither do the in-laws. I'm pissed off home
>> > sick and couldn't give a shit about any of them except maybe baby
>> > Jessica. I would take her back to the UK if I could. However, the
>> > father in-law would probably hunt me down and literally kill me, I
>> > mean it. He's fucked, he's wife is fucked. The whole damn family is
>> > fucked.
>>
>> > I think I prefered my life in the UK. I'm currently working and
>> > seriously thinking of abounderning all this shit to come back to
>> > blighty and start my life again.
>>
>> > Just need to ask my parents if I can move back in with them in Leigh-
>> > on-Sea, Essex.
>
> It's all been sorted. Yes, my parents have offered to pay for a plain
> ticket to the UK. I spoke to my wife and she thinks this is a good
> idea. I was thinking of Christmas that way I can see all my family
> together.
>
> My wife wants to kick me out because she find's it hard to deal with
> my mental health issues. I told her that she deals with it and I stay
> and try real hard to do what I have to do. Or I go. The ball is in her
> court and she has yet to come to a decision. My feeling is she is
> going to want me to stay and try and live with my schizoaffective dis-
> order. And bring up our family. In the mean time I have to ignore her
> families snidey comments.
>
That is a start. Do you see your in-laws often?
Relationships are hard. Cross cultural are more so. Throw in a mental
disorder and babies and it is difficult.
Has your wife had any education about your mental health issues. Does she
have access to support as a spouse of a person with mental health issues. It
can help.
Meryl

It sounds like your wife forgot the "for better or worse" part of the
marriage ceremony.

There is an old statistic. Of those hit by schizophrenia (schizoaffective
is a variation) 1/3 become institutionalized, 1/3 recover but have recurring
trouble, and 1/3 recover and never have another episode.

While stopping medication holds a significant risk of a relapse, you don't
know that until you try it and have a disaster.


"ChrisC" <chrispche@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:1189157202.786735.64660@22g2000hsm.googlegrou ps.com...
> I'm seriously considering leaving my wife and kid, soon to be kids. I
> fed up with the in-laws. Life in South Africa. The constant nagging
> "reading books is a waste of life" I mean really what kind of arsehole
> thinks that.
>
> My wife is nagging and expects the world from me. To pay more
> attention to the kid. I just don't feel like it I have my ups and
> downs. I'm schizoaffective, obviously not built for relationships. She
> doesn't understand it, neither do the in-laws. I'm pissed off home
> sick and couldn't give a shit about any of them except maybe baby
> Jessica. I would take her back to the UK if I could. However, the
> father in-law would probably hunt me down and literally kill me, I
> mean it. He's fucked, he's wife is fucked. The whole damn family is
> fucked.
>
> I think I prefered my life in the UK. I'm currently working and
> seriously thinking of abounderning all this shit to come back to
> blighty and start my life again.
>
> Just need to ask my parents if I can move back in with them in Leigh-
> on-Sea, Essex.
>

Those old statistics are like the group delusion nonsense--just something
psychiatry pulled out of its ass during its Medieval phase in the mid-20th
century and never bothered to test scientifically.

Mike

"Quiet Neighbor" <private@spamless.net> wrote in message
news:W%SFi.33546$RX.11772@newssvr11.news.prodigy.n et...
> It sounds like your wife forgot the "for better or worse" part of the
> marriage ceremony.
>
> There is an old statistic. Of those hit by schizophrenia (schizoaffective
> is a variation) 1/3 become institutionalized, 1/3 recover but have
> recurring trouble, and 1/3 recover and never have another episode.
>
> While stopping medication holds a significant risk of a relapse, you don't
> know that until you try it and have a disaster.
>
>
> "ChrisC" <chrispche@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:1189157202.786735.64660@22g2000hsm.googlegrou ps.com...
>> I'm seriously considering leaving my wife and kid, soon to be kids. I
>> fed up with the in-laws. Life in South Africa. The constant nagging
>> "reading books is a waste of life" I mean really what kind of arsehole
>> thinks that.
>>
>> My wife is nagging and expects the world from me. To pay more
>> attention to the kid. I just don't feel like it I have my ups and
>> downs. I'm schizoaffective, obviously not built for relationships. She
>> doesn't understand it, neither do the in-laws. I'm pissed off home
>> sick and couldn't give a shit about any of them except maybe baby
>> Jessica. I would take her back to the UK if I could. However, the
>> father in-law would probably hunt me down and literally kill me, I
>> mean it. He's fucked, he's wife is fucked. The whole damn family is
>> fucked.
>>
>> I think I prefered my life in the UK. I'm currently working and
>> seriously thinking of abounderning all this shit to come back to
>> blighty and start my life again.
>>
>> Just need to ask my parents if I can move back in with them in Leigh-
>> on-Sea, Essex.
>>
>
>

"Meryl" <meryl.nNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "indomitable2" <indomitable2@somewhere.net> wrote in message
> news:13e9mc4asksc41b@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>> "Meryl" <meryl.nNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:46e484d1$0$14170$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>> Whatever decision you make, take your time and try to get some objective
>>> counseling.
>>
>> The American Psychological Associated gutted it's ethics code it a
>> resolution it approved in 2002.
>>
>> Any member of 961 local, state, and/or federal law enforcement can
>> require any counselor to provide LEA confidential info provided, and/or
>> misuse psychological knowledge to perpetrate the ultimate FUCK job on the
>> client.
>>
>> Under NO circumstances ought any american ever consult a counselor,
>> psychologist, psychotherapist, social worker.
>>
>>
>>
> Your opinion has not no relevance to this situation. The poster is not an
> American, nor is he in the US.

Maybe, maybe not.

Many readers are Americans; therefore, it was necessary to point out the
fallaciousness of your implication that shelling out big $$$ for counseling
would be helpful, where, A) there exists a wide body of empirical evidence
demonstrating that licensed mental health workers aren't any more helpful to
consumers then the bartender at their local tavern is, and, B) licensed
mental health workers have agreed to gut their ethics code so they can serve
the interest of the state rather then the interests of their consumers.

The conspiracy of silence amongst mental health workers in allied nations is
prima facia evidence of their collusion with the reprehensible FRAUD
perpetrated on american consumers of mental health services.

Furthermore, the political status of those nations vis a vis the USA is
such that it's highly probably that mental health workers in those nations
gutted their ethics code as well.

The citizens of the world need to learn to talk to their priest, minister,
rabbi or close friends rather then bankrupt themselves paying for frauds
who are serving the state, not consumers.

"indomitable2" <indomitable2@somewhere.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Meryl" <meryl.nNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:46e794f2$0$14173$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>
>> "indomitable2" <indomitable2@somewhere.net> wrote in message
>> news:13e9mc4asksc41b@corp.supernews.com...
>>>
>>> "Meryl" <meryl.nNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:46e484d1$0$14170$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>> Whatever decision you make, take your time and try to get some
>>>> objective counseling.
>>>
>>> The American Psychological Associated gutted it's ethics code it a
>>> resolution it approved in 2002.
>>>
>>> Any member of 961 local, state, and/or federal law enforcement can
>>> require any counselor to provide LEA confidential info provided, and/or
>>> misuse psychological knowledge to perpetrate the ultimate FUCK job on
>>> the client.
>>>
>>> Under NO circumstances ought any american ever consult a counselor,
>>> psychologist, psychotherapist, social worker.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Your opinion has not no relevance to this situation. The poster is not an
>> American, nor is he in the US.
>
> Maybe, maybe not.

<major snip>

> The citizens of the world need to learn to talk to their priest,
> minister, rabbi or close friends rather then bankrupt themselves paying
> for frauds who are serving the state, not consumers.
>

No thanks. This would not work for me for many reasons, including the fact
that I am an atheist.

Oh and I am not an American. LOL.

Meryl

On Sep 12, 7:07 pm, "Meryl" <meryl.nNOS...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "indomitable2" <indomitab...@somewhere.net> wrote in message
>
> news:13eg3ttakvdu012@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Meryl" <meryl.nNOS...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:46e794f2$0$14173$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> >> "indomitable2" <indomitab...@somewhere.net> wrote in message
> >>news:13e9mc4asksc41b@corp.supernews.com...
>
> >>> "Meryl" <meryl.nNOS...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:46e484d1$0$14170$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> >>>> Whatever decision you make, take your time and try to get some
> >>>> objective counseling.
>
> >>> The American Psychological Associated gutted it's ethics code it a
> >>> resolution it approved in 2002.
>
> >>> Any member of 961 local, state, and/or federal law enforcement can
> >>> require any counselor to provide LEA confidential info provided, and/or
> >>> misuse psychological knowledge to perpetrate the ultimate FUCK job on
> >>> the client.
>
> >>> Under NO circumstances ought any american ever consult a counselor,
> >>> psychologist, psychotherapist, social worker.
>
> >> Your opinion has not no relevance to this situation. The poster is not an
> >> American, nor is he in the US.
>
> > Maybe, maybe not.
>
> <major snip>
>
> > The citizens of the world need to learn to talk to their priest,
> > minister, rabbi or close friends rather then bankrupt themselves paying
> > for frauds who are serving the state, not consumers.
>
> No thanks. This would not work for me for many reasons, including the fact
> that I am an atheist.
>
> Oh and I am not an American. LOL.
>
> Meryl

Minor details.

im seriously considering leaving myself

On Sep 12, 7:35 pm, ACE <heavensga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> im seriously considering leaving myself

You can't leave yourself. Wherever you go, there you are.

"marcia" <design1@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
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> On Sep 12, 7:35 pm, ACE <heavensga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > im seriously considering leaving myself
>
> You can't leave yourself. Wherever you go, there you are.
>


i left myself once but i reconciled

On Sep 7, 12:15?pm, roky <rokyb...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> schizophrenia can be cured with radical spiritual understanding which
> is all about relationship.

i had ta read that twice.

spiritual understanding is about relationship, so consequently,
relationships cure schizophrenia?

HEY.... "LOVE@AOL.COM" cures schizophrenia ! (who knew)

> Relationship feels better than non
> relationship

ok, go have a relationship with a serial killer.... it's better NO
RELATIONSHIP AT ALL ! (where's she been all muh life?)

> which is what schizophrenia actually is. Its as simple as
> that.

SIDEBAR: "does it have to be a relationship with a person, cuz double
glazed krispy kremes might just be tha relationship of my dreams."

ORDER IN THA COURT !

yes, yer honor, i'd like ta order 2.5 dozen.

SUSTAINED !

wowwwwwwwwwwwww... :::dreamy:::

(sugar makes me homicidal, but that's b'side tha point.)

wow. if only Nurse Ratched had known that.

can i write yer Pulitzer Prize Speech?

you just cured schizophrenia, whadda ya know.

would ya mind workin' on world hunger next?

> Read my post the cure for schizophrenia.

i just did. i'm cured. NOW c'mere... Lorna Road, Birmingham, AL...
(just ask for tha crazy chick, anybody can point ya in tha right
direction.)

let's have'ah relationship. ::flushin' thorazine::

~tanya (relationship expert now)

KISS ME, sugar lips !

On Sep 7, 2:38?pm, "Quiet Neighbor" <priv...@spamless.net> wrote:

> Clonazapam makes relationships less stressful. Ask the doctor about it.

but they cure schizophrenia.

and lack'ah schizoid cures stress

so why even consider klonapin? clonazapam, whatever.

::weighin' checks and balances::

i vote for NO MORE SCHIZOPHRENIA IN EVERY POT !

THAT IS MY "PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD" FORUM !

(vote for me.)

~tanya

On Sep 7, 4:26?am, ChrisC <chrisp...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> I'm seriously considering leaving my wife and kid, soon to be kids. I
> fed up with the in-laws. Life in South Africa. The constant nagging
> "reading books is a waste of life" I mean really what kind of arsehole
> thinks that.

people think what people think. it's up to YOU if you tolerate stuff
that you ain't happy with.

> My wife is nagging and expects the world from me.

i dunno yer wife, but i'm presuming she doesn't expect from anyone
else what she doesn't expect from herself.

is yer wife Nancy Grace? (just kiddin' ...i love Nancy.... she ain't
no slouch and has no expectations of anyone except human decency, but
i thought i was real funny sayin' that.)

> To pay more
> attention to the kid. I just don't feel like it I have my ups and
> downs. I'm schizoaffective, obviously not built for relationships.

yer wife can fix it, evidently. if fairness abounds, she expects the
world of herself, so what IS she incapable of? nothing?


> She doesn't understand it, neither do the in-laws. I'm pissed off home
> sick and couldn't give a shit about any of them except maybe baby
> Jessica. I would take her back to the UK if I could.