sun tzu

I've never read Sun Tzu,even though awareness of some of his ideas
(for instance, the one about keeping your friends close and your
enemies even closer) seem to have filtered down from somewhere.

I can't imagine why a warrior would choose to put into book form, all
his secrets, unless he had left the main secret out, which could have
been that he knew that things had already been arranged so that his
enemies were divided and set against themselves, and thus having set
the scene, handed them the weapons to finish themselves off.

It seems more appropriate to me that 'a truth that's told with bad
intent, beats any lies you can invent' more accurately fits the
situation.

Hi Judy. I hate war, but I believe it is important to understand it.
Its like understanding evil, or a parasite or a system-scam, and
learning how to circumvent it and/or destroy it.

On 25 Jun, 03:12, Lix Tetrax <scopethel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Judy. I hate war, but I believe it is important to understand it.
> Its like understanding evil, or a parasite or a system-scam, and
> learning how to circumvent it and/or destroy it.

it destroys itself if you don't take part in it

On Jun 25, 12:39*pm, Judy <jal...@easynet.co.uk> wrote:
> On 25 Jun, 03:12, Lix Tetrax <scopethel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Judy. I hate war, but I believe it is important to understand it.
> > Its like understanding evil, or a parasite or a system-scam, and
> > learning how to circumvent it and/or destroy it.
>
> it destroys itself if you don't take part in it

It also destroys and uses good people too. Not taking part in it is
important too though, but not enough by itself. Good, fair people need
a good, fair system. But I believe being good isn't enough these days.
I choose to be good and anti-evil. Although I am far from perfect, and
do sin. But I gotta try. Peace.

On 25 Jun, 03:45, Lix Tetrax <scopethel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 25, 12:39*pm, Judy <jal...@easynet.co.uk> wrote:
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> > On 25 Jun, 03:12, Lix Tetrax <scopethel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hi Judy. I hate war, but I believe it is important to understand it.
> > > Its like understanding evil, or a parasite or a system-scam, and
> > > learning how to circumvent it and/or destroy it.
>
> > it destroys itself if you don't take part in it
>
> It also destroys and uses good people too.

What were you doing in the void?

On Jun 25, 12:51*pm, Judy <jal...@easynet.co.uk> wrote:
> On 25 Jun, 03:45, Lix Tetrax <scopethel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Jun 25, 12:39*pm, Judy <jal...@easynet.co.uk> wrote:
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> > > On 25 Jun, 03:12, Lix Tetrax <scopethel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi Judy. I hate war, but I believe it is important to understand it..
> > > > Its like understanding evil, or a parasite or a system-scam, and
> > > > learning how to circumvent it and/or destroy it.
>
> > > it destroys itself if you don't take part in it
>
> > It also destroys and uses good people too.
>
> What were you doing in the void?

Resting. Things have been getting to me lately. Just feeling depressed
and psychotic... I needed to disconnect from everything for awhile.

On 25 Jun, 03:55, Lix Tetrax <scopethel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 25, 12:51*pm, Judy <jal...@easynet.co.uk> wrote:
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> > On 25 Jun, 03:45, Lix Tetrax <scopethel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jun 25, 12:39*pm, Judy <jal...@easynet.co.uk> wrote:
>

> > > > it destroys itself if you don't take part in it
>
> > > It also destroys and uses good people too.
>
> > What were you doing in the void?
>
> Resting. Things have been getting to me lately. Just feeling depressed
> and psychotic... I needed to disconnect from everything for awhile.

On Jun 25, 12:59*pm, Judy <jal...@easynet.co.uk> wrote:
> On 25 Jun, 03:55, Lix Tetrax <scopethel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Jun 25, 12:51*pm, Judy <jal...@easynet.co.uk> wrote:
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> > > On 25 Jun, 03:45, Lix Tetrax <scopethel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Jun 25, 12:39*pm, Judy <jal...@easynet.co.uk> wrote:
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> > > > > On 25 Jun, 03:12, Lix Tetrax <scopethel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Hi Judy. I hate war, but I believe it is important to understand it.
> > > > > > Its like understanding evil, or a parasite or a system-scam, and
> > > > > > learning how to circumvent it and/or destroy it.
>
> > > > > it destroys itself if you don't take part in it
>
> > > > It also destroys and uses good people too.
>
> > > What were you doing in the void?
>
> > Resting. Things have been getting to me lately. Just feeling depressed
> > and psychotic... I needed to disconnect from everything for awhile.
>
> Resting what?- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

My soul and mind. Because of sensory overload.

On 25 Jun, 03:55, Lix Tetrax <scopethel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 25, 12:51*pm, Judy <jal...@easynet.co.uk> wrote:
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> > On 25 Jun, 03:45, Lix Tetrax <scopethel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jun 25, 12:39*pm, Judy <jal...@easynet.co.uk> wrote:
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> > > > On 25 Jun, 03:12, Lix Tetrax <scopethel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Hi Judy. I hate war, but I believe it is important to understand it.
> > > > > Its like understanding evil, or a parasite or a system-scam, and
> > > > > learning how to circumvent it and/or destroy it.
>
> > > > it destroys itself if you don't take part in it
>
> > > It also destroys and uses good people too.
>
> > What were you doing in the void?
>
> Resting. Things have been getting to me lately. Just feeling depressed
> and psychotic... I needed to disconnect from everything for awhile.

Resting what?

On 25 Jun, 04:01, Lix Tetrax <scopethel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 25, 12:59*pm, Judy <jal...@easynet.co.uk> wrote:
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> > On 25 Jun, 03:55, Lix Tetrax <scopethel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jun 25, 12:51*pm, Judy <jal...@easynet.co.uk> wrote:
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> > > > On 25 Jun, 03:45, Lix Tetrax <scopethel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Jun 25, 12:39*pm, Judy <jal...@easynet.co.uk> wrote:
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> > > > > > On 25 Jun, 03:12, Lix Tetrax <scopethel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Hi Judy. I hate war, but I believe it is important to understand it.
> > > > > > > Its like understanding evil, or a parasite or a system-scam, and
> > > > > > > learning how to circumvent it and/or destroy it.
>
> > > > > > it destroys itself if you don't take part in it
>
> > > > > It also destroys and uses good people too.
>
> > > > What were you doing in the void?
>
> > > Resting. Things have been getting to me lately. Just feeling depressed
> > > and psychotic... I needed to disconnect from everything for awhile.
>
> > Resting what?- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> My soul and mind. Because of sensory overload.

Truly evil warfare.

remembering a promise

con respeto

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> Resting. Things have been getting to me lately. Just feeling depressed
> and psychotic... I needed to disconnect from everything for awhile.

Thought you had a friend you hid in the tree?

On Jun 25, 1:27*pm, Judy <jal...@easynet.co.uk> wrote:
> > Resting. Things have been getting to me lately. Just feeling depressed
> > and psychotic... I needed to disconnect from everything for awhile.
>
> Thought you had a friend you hid in the tree?

Hehehe. Mary-Jane got stolen.

On 25 Jun, 04:32, Lix Tetrax <scopethel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 25, 1:27*pm, Judy <jal...@easynet.co.uk> wrote:
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> > > Resting. Things have been getting to me lately. Just feeling depressed
> > > and psychotic... I needed to disconnect from everything for awhile.
>
> > Thought you had a friend you hid in the tree?
>
> Hehehe. Mary-Jane got stolen.

The future was stolen from an infant.
The thieves then went on to steal the infant's past.
then they came back to steal the infant's present.

How did the thieves lose it all?

You can use Sun Tzu against psychiatry. It's self defense!
Dopamine blockers are worse than death!
Sun Tzu was very wise and he knew that if he knew something that
many other people could and did discover the same thing. Many inventions
were also discovered around the same time by other people.
Musashi also wrote down all his secrets of strategy in his "Book
of Five Rings". There is a pleasurable compulsion to spread secrets. I
aught to know, I'm infamous for it.
Check out my http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alchemy61/ . My cousin
and I, and our associates have traveled all over the world to dig out
"secrets". We have read all those old masters: Sun Tzu, Musachi, and new
masters like Suzette Elgin with her "Verbal Self Defense".
If we are in here (in alt.support.schizophrenia), and we are, we
are at war, we are at war with psychiatry. You need every strategy you
can find; and, read the Bible. "You need every bit of scripture you can
get."

"Judy" <jale...@easynet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:36c04c84-179d-42f4-a92c-95a95f9183ac@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> I've never read Sun Tzu,even though awareness of some of his ideas
> (for instance, the one about keeping your friends close and your
> enemies even closer) seem to have filtered down from somewhere.
>
> I can't imagine why a warrior would choose to put into book form, all
> his secrets, unless he had left the main secret out, which could have
> been that he knew that things had already been arranged so that his
> enemies were divided and set against themselves, and thus having set
> the scene, handed them the weapons to finish themselves off.
>
> It seems more appropriate to me that 'a truth that's told with bad
> intent, beats any lies you can invent' more accurately fits the
> situation.
>
>
>

Hi Judy

I suspect that most warriors become tied of battle at sometime, and war is
carried out on many fronts, not all of them 'plein air'

There was an interesting study carried out by a Canadian university in the
1980's looking at war or more specifically peoples attitudes to it.

They spent two years reading letters, newspapers, journals' official and
unofficial documents ranging from ancient history up to modern times and
they discovered some remarkable facts.

First: approximately 20% of the people will always be against a war,
irrespective of the reason for the war in the first place. The enemy could
be landing on the beaches and they would be saying lets negotiate.
Governments recognize this fact and do not generally try to convert them.

Secondly (and rather surprisingly 30% of the people will always be in favor
of a war, again whatever the reason, for instance we could bomb France
tomorrow and a large part of the population would support this.

This leaves the remaining 50% of the population that a government has to try
and win over if it wants public support for its actions. It is to these
people and not either the anti or pro war brigades that governments spend a
lot of time and effort on.

perhaps I read to many commando magazines as child but to my eternal horror
I generally fall in to the 30% category.



best wishes


zerosky

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:10:27 +0100, "zerosky" <zerosky@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

>
>
>"Judy" <jale...@easynet.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:36c04c84-179d-42f4-a92c-95a95f9183ac@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> I've never read Sun Tzu,even though awareness of some of his ideas
>> (for instance, the one about keeping your friends close and your
>> enemies even closer) seem to have filtered down from somewhere.
>>
>> I can't imagine why a warrior would choose to put into book form, all
>> his secrets, unless he had left the main secret out, which could have
>> been that he knew that things had already been arranged so that his
>> enemies were divided and set against themselves, and thus having set
>> the scene, handed them the weapons to finish themselves off.
>>
>> It seems more appropriate to me that 'a truth that's told with bad
>> intent, beats any lies you can invent' more accurately fits the
>> situation.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Hi Judy
>
>I suspect that most warriors become tied of battle at sometime, and war is
>carried out on many fronts, not all of them 'plein air'
>
>There was an interesting study carried out by a Canadian university in the
>1980's looking at war or more specifically peoples attitudes to it.
>
>They spent two years reading letters, newspapers, journals' official and
>unofficial documents ranging from ancient history up to modern times and
>they discovered some remarkable facts.
>
>First: approximately 20% of the people will always be against a war,
>irrespective of the reason for the war in the first place. The enemy could
>be landing on the beaches and they would be saying lets negotiate.
>Governments recognize this fact and do not generally try to convert them.
>
>Secondly (and rather surprisingly 30% of the people will always be in favor
>of a war, again whatever the reason, for instance we could bomb France
>tomorrow and a large part of the population would support this.
>
>This leaves the remaining 50% of the population that a government has to try
>and win over if it wants public support for its actions. It is to these
>people and not either the anti or pro war brigades that governments spend a
>lot of time and effort on.
>
>perhaps I read to many commando magazines as child but to my eternal horror
>I generally fall in to the 30% category.
>
>
>
>best wishes
>
>
>zerosky
>
GWB's approval rating is stuck at 30% and refuses to go lower.
These psychs are onto something! :-)

Brian

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All I want to say to you is:

de-do-do-do, de-da-da-da

Botchee Ball or tossing horseshoes is better.

only on weekends

Brian

________________________________

All I want to say to you is:

de-do-do-do, de-da-da-da