What it's like to have no parents

It sucks.

Unless your parents are truly evil to you, trust me, you're lucky to
have them.

They help you do things.

They provide some safety, a safety net.

I had to do everything for myself, by myself at a very young age.

Before the internet was around to help with answers at your
fingertips.

Had to figure out how to do things by going out and asking people,
making phone calls, looking for info in pamphlets and books, and not
be afraid to look stupid figuring things out.

In college I would see people whose parents sent them care packages
and helped them move their things in and out of the dorm.

I had none of that. I moved all my stuff by myself because I really
had no friends either.

I still feel pangs of sharp jealousy when people talk about their
parents.

I want someone to do some of the work for ME.

I have been doing every damned thing for myself, by myself, for so
damned long because I have no family (except for two lame brothers)
and few friends. I occasionally have had a boyfriend who helps me out
with one thing or another.

It is very hard to live that way. Little things become a major crisis.
LIke things with the car. Or things going wrong in the apaartment and
the landlord won't do their job right.

Or anything. No one to call for help.

That's how it's been for me.

Now you know a little more about me.

I have no family in this country except for two brothers who are
worthless as family support.

I usually don't talk about the truth because it makes people feel
awkward, guilty, and I have enough class to keep my mouth shut and not
be a big downer, it's not like most people could help much anyway.

But, I'm in the mood for talking about the truth a little.

I usually try to have a sense of humor.

I don't have a sense of humor as I sit here tonight after my hours at
Subway.

I don't feel like telling jokes.

I have other horrible life issues too.. I usually keep my mouth shut
about them and try to keep a decent conversation going though.

Good day.

How did you lose your parents?

If it is too personal, just disregard...


"Gelly" <Gelly.D@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:a6c98efe-304f-42bc-a4cc-151a17283e21@e60g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> It sucks.
>
> Unless your parents are truly evil to you, trust me, you're lucky to
> have them.
>
> They help you do things.
>
> They provide some safety, a safety net.
>
> I had to do everything for myself, by myself at a very young age.
>
> Before the internet was around to help with answers at your
> fingertips.
>
> Had to figure out how to do things by going out and asking people,
> making phone calls, looking for info in pamphlets and books, and not
> be afraid to look stupid figuring things out.
>
> In college I would see people whose parents sent them care packages
> and helped them move their things in and out of the dorm.
>
> I had none of that. I moved all my stuff by myself because I really
> had no friends either.
>
> I still feel pangs of sharp jealousy when people talk about their
> parents.
>
> I want someone to do some of the work for ME.
>
> I have been doing every damned thing for myself, by myself, for so
> damned long because I have no family (except for two lame brothers)
> and few friends. I occasionally have had a boyfriend who helps me out
> with one thing or another.
>
> It is very hard to live that way. Little things become a major crisis.
> LIke things with the car. Or things going wrong in the apaartment and
> the landlord won't do their job right.
>
> Or anything. No one to call for help.
>
> That's how it's been for me.
>
> Now you know a little more about me.
>
> I have no family in this country except for two brothers who are
> worthless as family support.
>
> I usually don't talk about the truth because it makes people feel
> awkward, guilty, and I have enough class to keep my mouth shut and not
> be a big downer, it's not like most people could help much anyway.
>
> But, I'm in the mood for talking about the truth a little.
>
> I usually try to have a sense of humor.
>
> I don't have a sense of humor as I sit here tonight after my hours at
> Subway.
>
> I don't feel like telling jokes.
>
> I have other horrible life issues too.. I usually keep my mouth shut
> about them and try to keep a decent conversation going though.
>
> Good day.

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On Mar 11, 7:18*pm, "Quiet Neighbor" wrote:
> How did you lose your parents?
>
> If it is too personal, just disregard...
>

You could just depend on the State to be your family, Miss Gelly.
Some people depend on family or friends or "sugar daddies/mammas", or
the State to take care of them. Very, very few people can truly go it
alone. Most of us are just dependent on someone. We depend on our
employers to pay us, or the State, or the pension fund. We depend on
all kind of things! Is it a great shame to be so dependent? Miss
Gelly thinks too much, tonight! She needs to turn off her brain and
don't worry about it, but I'm just an "old man" who she doesn't "worry
about". Advice/Opinion freely given and freely ignored!;-)

<chessucat twitches>

On Mar 11, 6:18 pm, "Quiet Neighbor" <priv...@spamless.net> wrote:
> How did you lose your parents?
>
> If it is too personal, just disregard...
>
> "Gelly" <Gell...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:a6c98efe-304f-42bc-a4cc-151a17283e21@e60g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > It sucks.
>
> > Unless your parents are truly evil to you, trust me, you're lucky to
> > have them.
>
> > They help you do things.
>
> > They provide some safety, a safety net.
>
> > I had to do everything for myself, by myself at a very young age.
>
> > Before the internet was around to help with answers at your
> > fingertips.
>
> > Had to figure out how to do things by going out and asking people,
> > making phone calls, looking for info in pamphlets and books, and not
> > be afraid to look stupid figuring things out.
>
> > In college I would see people whose parents sent them care packages
> > and helped them move their things in and out of the dorm.
>
> > I had none of that. I moved all my stuff by myself because I really
> > had no friends either.
>
> > I still feel pangs of sharp jealousy when people talk about their
> > parents.
>
> > I want someone to do some of the work for ME.
>
> > I have been doing every damned thing for myself, by myself, for so
> > damned long because I have no family (except for two lame brothers)
> > and few friends. I occasionally have had a boyfriend who helps me out
> > with one thing or another.
>
> > It is very hard to live that way. Little things become a major crisis.
> > LIke things with the car. Or things going wrong in the apaartment and
> > the landlord won't do their job right.
>
> > Or anything. No one to call for help.
>
> > That's how it's been for me.
>
> > Now you know a little more about me.
>
> > I have no family in this country except for two brothers who are
> > worthless as family support.
>
> > I usually don't talk about the truth because it makes people feel
> > awkward, guilty, and I have enough class to keep my mouth shut and not
> > be a big downer, it's not like most people could help much anyway.
>
> > But, I'm in the mood for talking about the truth a little.
>
> > I usually try to have a sense of humor.
>
> > I don't have a sense of humor as I sit here tonight after my hours at
> > Subway.
>
> > I don't feel like telling jokes.
>
> > I have other horrible life issues too.. I usually keep my mouth shut
> > about them and try to keep a decent conversation going though.
>
> > Good day.


Eh, it's kind of a long story. Mother died very slowly from
alcoholism, very slowly, starting when I was 10, I lived with my dad,
he died of a heart attack when I was twenty, then I went to college.
Just was hard with no other family around in this country.

I did everything myself, too. My father also died of alcoholism. I
didn't get to go to college.

When I got sick though, people did help me.

penguin

"I've always depended on the kindness of strangers."

Blanche Dubois, A Streetcar Named Desire.

penguin

I say that because actually it was strangers that helped me.

penguin

Your brother(s) should step up and you guys should stick together.
You guys are all that you've got.

"Erik the Red" <spock_smokes@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b4a87110-6000-4ff1-b7ad-6b35c7e1d814@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> Your brother(s) should step up and you guys should stick together.
> You guys are all that you've got.

They should, but siblings seem to react badly to the word "Sz."

On Mar 11, 6:55*pm, Gelly <Gell...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It sucks.
>
> Unless your parents are truly evil to you, trust me, you're lucky to
> have them.
>
> They help you do things.
>
> They provide some safety, a safety net.
>
> I had to do everything for myself, by myself at a very young age.
>
> Before the internet was around to help with answers at your
> fingertips.
>
> Had to figure out how to do things by going out and asking people,
> making phone calls, looking for info in pamphlets and books, and not
> be afraid to look stupid figuring things out.
>
> In college I would see people whose parents sent them care packages
> and helped them move their things in and out of the dorm.
>
> I had none of that. I moved all my stuff by myself because I really
> had no friends either.
>
> I still feel pangs of sharp jealousy when people talk about their
> parents.
>
> I want someone to do some of the work for ME.
>
> I have been doing every damned thing for myself, by myself, for so
> damned long because I have no family (except for two lame brothers)
> and few friends. I occasionally have had a boyfriend who helps me out
> with one thing or another.
>
> It is very hard to live that way. Little things become a major crisis.
> LIke things with the car. Or things going wrong in the apaartment and
> the landlord won't do their job right.
>
> Or anything. No one to call for help.
>
> That's how it's been for me.
>
> Now you know a little more about me.
>
> I have no family in this country except for two brothers who are
> worthless as family support.
>
> I usually don't talk about the truth because it makes people feel
> awkward, guilty, and I have enough class to keep my mouth shut and not
> be a big downer, it's not like most people could help much anyway.
>
> But, I'm in the mood for talking about the truth a little.
>
> I usually try to have a sense of humor.
>
> I don't have a sense of humor as I sit here tonight after my hours at
> Subway.
>
> I don't feel like telling jokes.
>
> I have other horrible life issues too.. I usually keep my mouth shut
> about them and try to keep a decent conversation going though.
>
> Good day.

I can tell you the flipside of that. I've had parents long past the
point when I should've stopped having parents, and I've still had to
do everything meaningful for myself, which means nothing meaningful
ever got done. After nearly 37 years in Canada my father still speaks
less English than a three-year-old child and has the attitudes he had
while growing up in the village of Veta back in Serbia. When I was
growing up my parents were a hindrance to me because the actually
assisted the educational system in abusing me over my disability. Not
once do I remember them standing up for me and saying: "This is my
child, lay off."

I actually envy you for having survived on your own because in my eyes
that makes you human; while I, depending on mamica and tatica for even
the basic things at age 42, am basically not human. But I am weak
enough to continue depending on them when by all rights I should have
taken the bull by the horns and starved on the street long ago.

Miki

On Mar 12, 7:41*am, "Quiet Neighbor" <priv...@spamless.net> wrote:
> "Erik the Red" <spock_smo...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:b4a87110-6000-4ff1-b7ad-6b35c7e1d814@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Your brother(s) should step up and you guys should stick together.
> > You guys are all that you've got.
>
> They should, but siblings seem to react badly to the word "Sz."

My brother is hostile to even the concept of giving me credit for
having shit for brains. In even the tiniest conflict situations he
just laughs at every word I say and dismisses it out of hand. Once my
parents are dead he will be sending me to my room when I "misbehave."
I would much rather have Gelly's brothers than mine.

Miki

On Mar 12, 8:38 am, pogreshi...@mikikocic.com wrote:
> On Mar 12, 7:41 am, "Quiet Neighbor" <priv...@spamless.net> wrote:
>
> > "Erik the Red" <spock_smo...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:b4a87110-6000-4ff1-b7ad-6b35c7e1d814@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > Your brother(s) should step up and you guys should stick together.
> > > You guys are all that you've got.
>
> > They should, but siblings seem to react badly to the word "Sz."
>
> My brother is hostile to even the concept of giving me credit for
> having shit for brains. In even the tiniest conflict situations he
> just laughs at every word I say and dismisses it out of hand. Once my
> parents are dead he will be sending me to my room when I "misbehave."
> I would much rather have Gelly's brothers than mine.
>
> Miki


Huh, you don't know them. Erik said they should "step up", well,
that's what they should be doing, but, geez, I don't think I can even
explain how bad they are in a few sentences.
They don't feel the need to help or even be polite.

I wish I could copy and past a certain email one sent me that would
explain the way they are, but I guess I caan't do that.

On 12 Mar, 00:18, Gelly <Gell...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 11, 6:18 pm, "Quiet Neighbor" <priv...@spamless.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > How did you lose your parents?
>
> > If it is too personal, just disregard...
>
> > "Gelly" <Gell...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:a6c98efe-304f-42bc-a4cc-151a17283e21@e60g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > It sucks.
>
> > > Unless your parents are truly evil to you, trust me, you're lucky to
> > > have them.
>
> > > They help you do things.
>
> > > They provide some safety, a safety net.
>
> > > I had to do everything for myself, by myself at a very young age.
>
> > > Before the internet was around to help with answers at your
> > > fingertips.
>
> > > Had to figure out how to do things by going out and asking people,
> > > making phone calls, looking for info in pamphlets and books, and not
> > > be afraid to look stupid figuring things out.
>
> > > In college I would see people whose parents sent them care packages
> > > and helped them move their things in and out of the dorm.
>
> > > I had none of that. I moved all my stuff by myself because I really
> > > had no friends either.
>
> > > I still feel pangs of sharp jealousy when people talk about their
> > > parents.
>
> > > I want someone to do some of the work for ME.
>
> > > I have been doing every damned thing for myself, by myself, for so
> > > damned long because I have no family (except for two lame brothers)
> > > and few friends. I occasionally have had a boyfriend who helps me out
> > > with one thing or another.
>
> > > It is very hard to live that way. Little things become a major crisis.
> > > LIke things with the car. Or things going wrong in the apaartment and
> > > the landlord won't do their job right.
>
> > > Or anything. No one to call for help.
>
> > > That's how it's been for me.
>
> > > Now you know a little more about me.
>
> > > I have no family in this country except for two brothers who are
> > > worthless as family support.
>
> > > I usually don't talk about the truth because it makes people feel
> > > awkward, guilty, and I have enough class to keep my mouth shut and not
> > > be a big downer, it's not like most people could help much anyway.
>
> > > But, I'm in the mood for talking about the truth a little.
>
> > > I usually try to have a sense of humor.
>
> > > I don't have a sense of humor as I sit here tonight after my hours at
> > > Subway.
>
> > > I don't feel like telling jokes.
>
> > > I have other horrible life issues too.. I usually keep my mouth shut
> > > about them and try to keep a decent conversation going though.
>
> > > Good day.
>
> Eh, it's kind of a long story. Mother died very slowly from
> alcoholism, very slowly, starting when I was 10, I lived with my dad,
> he died of a heart attack when I was twenty, then I went to college.
> Just was hard with no other family around in this country.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Hi Gelly.

We have something in common as both of my parents died too. Both from
cancer related to smoking. I was taken into foster care when young and
I have been lucky to have some fairly good foster parents, although I
was never close to my foster dad and still am not now.
I often wonder what it would have been like if I knew my real parents
and how lucky people are who still have there parents.

Gelly wrote:
> It sucks.
>
> Unless your parents are truly evil to you, trust me, you're lucky to
> have them.
>
> They help you do things.
>
> They provide some safety, a safety net.
>
> I had to do everything for myself, by myself at a very young age.
>
> Before the internet was around to help with answers at your
> fingertips.
>
> Had to figure out how to do things by going out and asking people,
> making phone calls, looking for info in pamphlets and books, and not
> be afraid to look stupid figuring things out.
>
> In college I would see people whose parents sent them care packages
> and helped them move their things in and out of the dorm.
>
> I had none of that. I moved all my stuff by myself because I really
> had no friends either.
>
> I still feel pangs of sharp jealousy when people talk about their
> parents.
>
> I want someone to do some of the work for ME.
>
> I have been doing every damned thing for myself, by myself, for so
> damned long because I have no family (except for two lame brothers)
> and few friends. I occasionally have had a boyfriend who helps me out
> with one thing or another.
>
> It is very hard to live that way. Little things become a major crisis.
> LIke things with the car. Or things going wrong in the apaartment and
> the landlord won't do their job right.
>
> Or anything. No one to call for help.
>
> That's how it's been for me.
>
> Now you know a little more about me.
>
> I have no family in this country except for two brothers who are
> worthless as family support.
>
> I usually don't talk about the truth because it makes people feel
> awkward, guilty, and I have enough class to keep my mouth shut and not
> be a big downer, it's not like most people could help much anyway.
>
> But, I'm in the mood for talking about the truth a little.
>
> I usually try to have a sense of humor.
>
> I don't have a sense of humor as I sit here tonight after my hours at
> Subway.
>
> I don't feel like telling jokes.
>
> I have other horrible life issues too.. I usually keep my mouth shut
> about them and try to keep a decent conversation going though.
>
> Good day.

I wish I could give you a BIG hug, Gelly. Really I wish.

I can understand your pain, however no matter what I do, it won't make it
easier.

Maybe you would just like to know that you are the most lovable woman in this
group? :-)

I WISH I could have you as my girlfriend. You are worth your weight in gold.

On Mar 13, 4:31 pm, "Shawn" <sh...@cjb.net> wrote:
> Gelly wrote:
> > It sucks.
>
> > Unless your parents are truly evil to you, trust me, you're lucky to
> > have them.
>
> > They help you do things.
>
> > They provide some safety, a safety net.
>
> > I had to do everything for myself, by myself at a very young age.
>
> > Before the internet was around to help with answers at your
> > fingertips.
>
> > Had to figure out how to do things by going out and asking people,
> > making phone calls, looking for info in pamphlets and books, and not
> > be afraid to look stupid figuring things out.
>
> > In college I would see people whose parents sent them care packages
> > and helped them move their things in and out of the dorm.
>
> > I had none of that. I moved all my stuff by myself because I really
> > had no friends either.
>
> > I still feel pangs of sharp jealousy when people talk about their
> > parents.
>
> > I want someone to do some of the work for ME.
>
> > I have been doing every damned thing for myself, by myself, for so
> > damned long because I have no family (except for two lame brothers)
> > and few friends. I occasionally have had a boyfriend who helps me out
> > with one thing or another.
>
> > It is very hard to live that way. Little things become a major crisis.
> > LIke things with the car. Or things going wrong in the apaartment and
> > the landlord won't do their job right.
>
> > Or anything. No one to call for help.
>
> > That's how it's been for me.
>
> > Now you know a little more about me.
>
> > I have no family in this country except for two brothers who are
> > worthless as family support.
>
> > I usually don't talk about the truth because it makes people feel
> > awkward, guilty, and I have enough class to keep my mouth shut and not
> > be a big downer, it's not like most people could help much anyway.
>
> > But, I'm in the mood for talking about the truth a little.
>
> > I usually try to have a sense of humor.
>
> > I don't have a sense of humor as I sit here tonight after my hours at
> > Subway.
>
> > I don't feel like telling jokes.
>
> > I have other horrible life issues too.. I usually keep my mouth shut
> > about them and try to keep a decent conversation going though.
>
> > Good day.
>
> I wish I could give you a BIG hug, Gelly. Really I wish.
>
> I can understand your pain, however no matter what I do, it won't make it
> easier.
>
> Maybe you would just like to know that you are the most lovable woman in this
> group? :-)
>
> I WISH I could have you as my girlfriend. You are worth your weight in gold.


Aww, geez, thank you. I don't know what to say. That brightens up my
day after a horrible day at work. Thanks.