whats life?

Recently my grandmother died and a few days earlier an old friend died and
before that is was the sister and father of another friend. Now my boyfriend
and I are getting older and so are my parents. Now I think what is life? Why
be here awhile and then die? Isn't it just senseless? Just when things get
going and your feeling comfortable you can die and we are all going to die.
I dread my death and I've had to think about it too much lately with all
these deaths occuring.

Why do you think life exists just to be snuffed out at some time.

Then if death isn't bad enough old age comes with terrible aches and pains
ugliness and loss of abilities to move and do things.

You were a baby at birth and you somewhat return to that same state upon
death. You shit your pants and piss on yourself. You can't walk and stumble.
Can't eat your food yourself sometimes have to be fed. Then someone has to
wash you and put you in your bed to sit and think of how wonderful life has
become.

I'm curious as to what keeps all of mankind from just killing themselves
once this knowledge becomes known to them.

What keeps us going when we have no control over when our bodies will get
hurt or just stop functioning correctly. What the fuck is the sense in
living? I must ask what is it?

Now I dread the idea of living without my mate as this would be the most
horrible thing that could happen. Lets face it unless we die at the same
time one of us will be left to live life alone without the other. Now this
really scares me as I think I could get along better without my mate then he
could do without me.

Sorry to rain on your parade but this existence of the food chain as we know
it and how everything on this planet kills to sustain itself. One might
think that killing animals to eat is bad but what about the plant it's alive
too. All of life kills to live even the tree will kill off other plantation
to exist.

Hey I'm really depresssed.

girl

Life is a cranberry. No, don't laugh, because I'm not about to tell a joke.
I'm completely serious.

We juice cranberries and mix their juice with the juice of other
cranberries, and then drink the mixture so that we can be nourished and
refreshed. In the same way our souls "juice" our lives of experience and mix
it with the experience of other lives and "drink" it so they can be
nourished and refreshed.

Whether this view of things is terrible or beautiful depends on whether
you're the cranberry or the person drinking the juice. But as human beings
we're both. You can't say the purpose of our lives is to be "juiced" of our
experience any more than the purpose of the cranberry's life is to be juiced
by us. And our souls have no more grasp of our perspectives than we do of
the cranberry's, and nobody can be blamed for being an abusive monster,
because nobody is. So them's those apples.

Why do we die? Because we live in time, and everything that exists in time
must have a beginning and an end. That's just the nature of time itself.

Hope that helps.

Mike

"girl30" <girl30us2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:EI2Ei.120$2A5.103@newsfe06.lga...
> Recently my grandmother died and a few days earlier an old friend died and
> before that is was the sister and father of another friend. Now my
> boyfriend and I are getting older and so are my parents. Now I think what
> is life? Why be here awhile and then die? Isn't it just senseless? Just
> when things get going and your feeling comfortable you can die and we are
> all going to die. I dread my death and I've had to think about it too much
> lately with all these deaths occuring.
>
> Why do you think life exists just to be snuffed out at some time.
>
> Then if death isn't bad enough old age comes with terrible aches and pains
> ugliness and loss of abilities to move and do things.
>
> You were a baby at birth and you somewhat return to that same state upon
> death. You shit your pants and piss on yourself. You can't walk and
> stumble. Can't eat your food yourself sometimes have to be fed. Then
> someone has to wash you and put you in your bed to sit and think of how
> wonderful life has become.
>
> I'm curious as to what keeps all of mankind from just killing themselves
> once this knowledge becomes known to them.
>
> What keeps us going when we have no control over when our bodies will get
> hurt or just stop functioning correctly. What the fuck is the sense in
> living? I must ask what is it?
>
> Now I dread the idea of living without my mate as this would be the most
> horrible thing that could happen. Lets face it unless we die at the same
> time one of us will be left to live life alone without the other. Now this
> really scares me as I think I could get along better without my mate then
> he could do without me.
>
> Sorry to rain on your parade but this existence of the food chain as we
> know it and how everything on this planet kills to sustain itself. One
> might think that killing animals to eat is bad but what about the plant
> it's alive too. All of life kills to live even the tree will kill off
> other plantation to exist.
>
> Hey I'm really depresssed.
>
> girl
>

Mike thats a good reply it took some time for me to grasp it. I still think
it sucks that we have to die.

girl

"Mike Kocic" <isotope@mikikocic.com> wrote in message
news:13e1f9349ua6l30@corp.supernews.com...
> Life is a cranberry. No, don't laugh, because I'm not about to tell a
> joke. I'm completely serious.
>
> We juice cranberries and mix their juice with the juice of other
> cranberries, and then drink the mixture so that we can be nourished and
> refreshed. In the same way our souls "juice" our lives of experience and
> mix it with the experience of other lives and "drink" it so they can be
> nourished and refreshed.
>
> Whether this view of things is terrible or beautiful depends on whether
> you're the cranberry or the person drinking the juice. But as human beings
> we're both. You can't say the purpose of our lives is to be "juiced" of
> our experience any more than the purpose of the cranberry's life is to be
> juiced by us. And our souls have no more grasp of our perspectives than we
> do of the cranberry's, and nobody can be blamed for being an abusive
> monster, because nobody is. So them's those apples.
>
> Why do we die? Because we live in time, and everything that exists in time
> must have a beginning and an end. That's just the nature of time itself.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Mike
>
> "girl30" <girl30us2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:EI2Ei.120$2A5.103@newsfe06.lga...
>> Recently my grandmother died and a few days earlier an old friend died
>> and before that is was the sister and father of another friend. Now my
>> boyfriend and I are getting older and so are my parents. Now I think what
>> is life? Why be here awhile and then die? Isn't it just senseless? Just
>> when things get going and your feeling comfortable you can die and we are
>> all going to die. I dread my death and I've had to think about it too
>> much lately with all these deaths occuring.
>>
>> Why do you think life exists just to be snuffed out at some time.
>>
>> Then if death isn't bad enough old age comes with terrible aches and
>> pains ugliness and loss of abilities to move and do things.
>>
>> You were a baby at birth and you somewhat return to that same state upon
>> death. You shit your pants and piss on yourself. You can't walk and
>> stumble. Can't eat your food yourself sometimes have to be fed. Then
>> someone has to wash you and put you in your bed to sit and think of how
>> wonderful life has become.
>>
>> I'm curious as to what keeps all of mankind from just killing themselves
>> once this knowledge becomes known to them.
>>
>> What keeps us going when we have no control over when our bodies will get
>> hurt or just stop functioning correctly. What the fuck is the sense in
>> living? I must ask what is it?
>>
>> Now I dread the idea of living without my mate as this would be the most
>> horrible thing that could happen. Lets face it unless we die at the same
>> time one of us will be left to live life alone without the other. Now
>> this really scares me as I think I could get along better without my mate
>> then he could do without me.
>>
>> Sorry to rain on your parade but this existence of the food chain as we
>> know it and how everything on this planet kills to sustain itself. One
>> might think that killing animals to eat is bad but what about the plant
>> it's alive too. All of life kills to live even the tree will kill off
>> other plantation to exist.
>>
>> Hey I'm really depresssed.
>>
>> girl
>>
>
>

On Sep 7, 4:31 am, "girl30" <girl30us2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Recently my grandmother died and a few days earlier an old friend died and
> before that is was the sister and father of another friend. Now my boyfriend
> and I are getting older and so are my parents. Now I think what is life? Why
> be here awhile and then die? Isn't it just senseless?

Everything that gets born has to die. But you missed the
fun part of it Thinking about death before times come
is pointless. You are missing all the fun.

Greets, Branimir.

Murphy's Law. I have to be somewhere, sometime in a universe that
has everything.
But God has a purpose.
The ancient Gnostics put Murphy's Law, phronaesis, first before
the Creator, the demiourgos. Some Gnostics said that the creator of this
physical world is an evil being.
The Ju Ju Yorubas say that Ela, the creator, is the most evil
being.
Dying can be very bad, but death is promising. Knowing what we
are, closed circuits of the one substance, E=Mc², in the one
substance, E=Mc², I can't see how we can undifferentiate completely.
And, time passes instantly when you are totally unconscious. It looks
like, "Life sucks and then you" can't "die".

My thoughts on God's purpose are pretty straightforward. If I am to be part
of that purpose in the role of a thinking, freely choosing being, then I
should have some say in what that purpose is and how it's carried out. If I
am just a thing, a tool, or an automaton, then I shouldn't have the illusion
of free will. Until that outstanding issue between me and God is resolved I
frankly don't care what his purpose is.

Mike

"Miguel Lahunkun" <gellie418@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:26532-46E12543-65@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
Murphy's Law. I have to be somewhere, sometime in a universe that
has everything.
But God has a purpose.
The ancient Gnostics put Murphy's Law, phronaesis, first before
the Creator, the demiourgos. Some Gnostics said that the creator of this
physical world is an evil being.
The Ju Ju Yorubas say that Ela, the creator, is the most evil
being.
Dying can be very bad, but death is promising. Knowing what we
are, closed circuits of the one substance, E=Mc², in the one
substance, E=Mc², I can't see how we can undifferentiate completely.
And, time passes instantly when you are totally unconscious. It looks
like, "Life sucks and then you" can't "die".

"girl30" <girl30us2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:U34Ei.61$gg2.19@newsfe04.lga...
> Mike thats a good reply it took some time for me to grasp it. I still
> think it sucks that we have to die.
>
> girl

It sucks granite that we have to die, girl. But people do find acceptance of
death in various ways. Maybe some of these will help:

1. Our true accomplishments outlive us even if our names aren't always
remembered. We are all descendants of long-forgotten hunter-gatherers from
300,000 years ago who had the wherewithal and courage to survive in
conditions much more difficult than ours. And we can be those kinds of
heroes to people who come after us, even if we don't reproduce, and even if
all we do is introduce a new wrinkle into human life. The South American
manioc plant is highly poisonous when raw, yet some long-forgotten cooking
genius figured out that you can grind it into a powder and make delicious
bread with it. To this day some indigenous South American tribes use no kind
of flour other than manioc. And I'm willing to bet that the inventor of that
flour was some obscure third wife who got no recognition for her achievement
in her lifetime.

2. True success in life is perfectly integrating yourself into how the world
works. This doesn't mean being Bill Gates because no one except him is him.
It means finding your place in the scheme of things so that the unavoidable
connections between your spirits and all other spirits in the universe are
smooth and trouble-free--even if some of those connections cause pain and
distress because that's how they happen to work. I'm progressing toward that
as we speak and not too far from achieving it.

3. Life is subjective. What matters is not what seems to happen to our
bodies, because we have no way to verify that it's actually happening, but
what we experience and how it affects us. (Experience is subjective.) If all
else fails we can will ourselves to be happy under the worst imaginable
conditions. This is scientifically confirmed by MRIs, because one side of
our prefrontal lobe is responsible for happiness while the other is
responsible for unhappiness, and MRIs of Buddhists have shown evidence of
them willing themselves to be happy through mediation. And if you're happy
all your life you'll be happy to die, too. This approach is also embraced by
some of the more far-flung Christian sects, such as the one Barry Zito, the
highly successful baseball pitcher, discussed in a Sports Illustrated
feature article on him (as his father is a minister in that sect).

(I forgot to send this and have now forgotten what I was saying. Thoughts
have no shelf life.

Mike)

> "Mike Kocic" <isotope@mikikocic.com> wrote in message
> news:13e1f9349ua6l30@corp.supernews.com...
>> Life is a cranberry. No, don't laugh, because I'm not about to tell a
>> joke. I'm completely serious.
>>
>> We juice cranberries and mix their juice with the juice of other
>> cranberries, and then drink the mixture so that we can be nourished and
>> refreshed. In the same way our souls "juice" our lives of experience and
>> mix it with the experience of other lives and "drink" it so they can be
>> nourished and refreshed.
>>
>> Whether this view of things is terrible or beautiful depends on whether
>> you're the cranberry or the person drinking the juice. But as human
>> beings we're both. You can't say the purpose of our lives is to be
>> "juiced" of our experience any more than the purpose of the cranberry's
>> life is to be juiced by us. And our souls have no more grasp of our
>> perspectives than we do of the cranberry's, and nobody can be blamed for
>> being an abusive monster, because nobody is. So them's those apples.
>>
>> Why do we die? Because we live in time, and everything that exists in
>> time must have a beginning and an end. That's just the nature of time
>> itself.
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> "girl30" <girl30us2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:EI2Ei.120$2A5.103@newsfe06.lga...
>>> Recently my grandmother died and a few days earlier an old friend died
>>> and before that is was the sister and father of another friend. Now my
>>> boyfriend and I are getting older and so are my parents. Now I think
>>> what is life? Why be here awhile and then die? Isn't it just senseless?
>>> Just when things get going and your feeling comfortable you can die and
>>> we are all going to die. I dread my death and I've had to think about it
>>> too much lately with all these deaths occuring.
>>>
>>> Why do you think life exists just to be snuffed out at some time.
>>>
>>> Then if death isn't bad enough old age comes with terrible aches and
>>> pains ugliness and loss of abilities to move and do things.
>>>
>>> You were a baby at birth and you somewhat return to that same state upon
>>> death. You shit your pants and piss on yourself. You can't walk and
>>> stumble. Can't eat your food yourself sometimes have to be fed. Then
>>> someone has to wash you and put you in your bed to sit and think of how
>>> wonderful life has become.
>>>
>>> I'm curious as to what keeps all of mankind from just killing themselves
>>> once this knowledge becomes known to them.
>>>
>>> What keeps us going when we have no control over when our bodies will
>>> get hurt or just stop functioning correctly. What the fuck is the sense
>>> in living? I must ask what is it?
>>>
>>> Now I dread the idea of living without my mate as this would be the most
>>> horrible thing that could happen. Lets face it unless we die at the same
>>> time one of us will be left to live life alone without the other. Now
>>> this really scares me as I think I could get along better without my
>>> mate then he could do without me.
>>>
>>> Sorry to rain on your parade but this existence of the food chain as we
>>> know it and how everything on this planet kills to sustain itself. One
>>> might think that killing animals to eat is bad but what about the plant
>>> it's alive too. All of life kills to live even the tree will kill off
>>> other plantation to exist.
>>>
>>> Hey I'm really depresssed.
>>>
>>> girl
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Sometimes, life is a lot like a large circle jerk.
Sometimes, life is having ants ruin a picnic.
Sometimes life is too bitter and life is too sweet but it can still
taste pretty good if you drink enough beer.

Life is a bunch of negative feedback mechanisms in the way.
Negative feedback mechanisms cause sunflowers to face the sun,
while inorganic matter shuns light. Negative feedback mechanisms cause
us to feel discomfort in the cold, while inorganic matter shuns the
heat.
The classical negative feedback mechanism was the steam governor
which was mechanically engineered to block the steam in proportion to
the pressure of the steam.
A good example of a positive feedback mechanism is when the
kidneys get a little sick and the product of that sickness damages the
kidneys so they produce more of that product so that the kidneys get
sicker and produce even more of that procuct which damages the kidneys
more... until the kidneys are totally ruined.
Here you see that when the true meanings of "positive" and
"negative" are used "positive" isn't always good. The misuse and
political exploitation of the terms "positve" and "negative" were
socially engineered by the freemasons.
The whole English language was botched up by the freemasons. You
have the word "implicate" and the word "imply", but you have the word
"explicate" but not the word "exply". Is there a word "expliction"? The
Anglo language sucks, thanks to the freemasons.
All entities are closed circuits of the one substance, E=Mc², in
the one substance, E=Mc², that in or case, we have consciousness
imposed upon our closed circuits by our medullas. It was found that one
lesion in the medulla results in permanent unconsciousness, in the body
with that medulla.
Douglas Hofsteadter has strongly suggested, in his "I Am A Strange
Loop", that some "reflection" is also necessary for normal
consciousness. If the amygdala is removed there is no more short term
memory. You couldn't remember the last second. You wouldn't remember
pain. So, does such a person feel no pain? That is the removal of one
reflection. There are many others.

On Sep 6, 7:31 pm, "girl30" <girl30us2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Recently my grandmother died and a few days earlier an old friend died and
> before that is was the sister and father of another friend. Now my boyfriend
> and I are getting older and so are my parents. Now I think what is life? Why
> be here awhile and then die? Isn't it just senseless? Just when things get
> going and your feeling comfortable you can die and we are all going to die.
> I dread my death and I've had to think about it too much lately with all
> these deaths occuring.
>
> Why do you think life exists just to be snuffed out at some time.
>
> Then if death isn't bad enough old age comes with terrible aches and pains
> ugliness and loss of abilities to move and do things.
>
> You were a baby at birth and you somewhat return to that same state upon
> death. You shit your pants and piss on yourself. You can't walk and stumble.
> Can't eat your food yourself sometimes have to be fed. Then someone has to
> wash you and put you in your bed to sit and think of how wonderful life has
> become.
>
> I'm curious as to what keeps all of mankind from just killing themselves
> once this knowledge becomes known to them.
>
> What keeps us going when we have no control over when our bodies will get
> hurt or just stop functioning correctly. What the fuck is the sense in
> living? I must ask what is it?
>
> Now I dread the idea of living without my mate as this would be the most
> horrible thing that could happen. Lets face it unless we die at the same
> time one of us will be left to live life alone without the other. Now this
> really scares me as I think I could get along better without my mate then he
> could do without me.
>
> Sorry to rain on your parade but this existence of the food chain as we know
> it and how everything on this planet kills to sustain itself. One might
> think that killing animals to eat is bad but what about the plant it's alive
> too. All of life kills to live even the tree will kill off other plantation
> to exist.
>
> Hey I'm really depresssed.
>
> girl
Advaita Vedanta:
You are not alive. What you consider to be your sense of perception is
only the Avoidance of Relationship to Reality. You create the self
sense by separating yourself in each moment.
As soon as an other is noticed there is fear-the Upanishads
Everything has already died, this is the other world-ADS
http://www.beezone.com/ArticlesAdiDa.html
Radical Understanding of Consciousness is the cure for SZ
Roky