who's really crazy in today's world?

We all know about Gelly's situation, but I'm really thinking about it for
the first time now. The way the government is behaving is totally insane. If
they think she can't work then they shouldn't delay approval of benefits,
and if they think she can then they shouldn't string her along. The whole
thing amounts to torture and is starting to make me angry.

And hers isn't the first such story I've heard. People here have suggested
that this wait-two-years-for-appeal bullshit is common practice. Do most
normos know about this? I have a hard time believing people would just
ignore it if it were widely publicized. Many might be apathetic, but some
would be motivated to help. Our big problem seems to be that we're isolated,
we don't help each other, and we don't know how to make our voice heard. If
the physically disabled can become a major political lobby why can't we? The
specific kind of thing I'm talking about is easy to show proof of and can't
be dismissed as a mere symptom by anyone with a halfway open mind.

On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 23:04:26 -0400, in alt.support.schizophrenia "The Dissociated
Press" <thebibbleguy@yahoo.ca> wrote:

>We all know about Gelly's situation, but I'm really thinking about it for
>the first time now. The way the government is behaving is totally insane. If
>they think she can't work then they shouldn't delay approval of benefits,
>and if they think she can then they shouldn't string her along. The whole
>thing amounts to torture and is starting to make me angry.
>
>And hers isn't the first such story I've heard. People here have suggested
>that this wait-two-years-for-appeal bullshit is common practice. Do most
>normos know about this? I have a hard time believing people would just
>ignore it if it were widely publicized. Many might be apathetic, but some
>would be motivated to help. Our big problem seems to be that we're isolated,
>we don't help each other, and we don't know how to make our voice heard. If
>the physically disabled can become a major political lobby why can't we? The
>specific kind of thing I'm talking about is easy to show proof of and can't
>be dismissed as a mere symptom by anyone with a halfway open mind.
>


I had to wait two years to get on disability this time around.. I think it is
pretty standard and only getting worse with all the vets coming back from Iraq
and applying for disability.

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On Jul 2, 11:04*pm, "The Dissociated Press" wrote:
> We all know about Gelly's situation, but I'm really thinking about it for
> the first time now. The way the government is behaving is totally insane. If
> they think she can't work then they shouldn't delay approval of benefits,
> and if they think she can then they shouldn't string her along. The whole
> thing amounts to torture and is starting to make me angry.
>

Gelly can work! She working right now, therefore she is NOT disable.
That 'fuckSSA' can work too, but he chooses not too. Sometimes,
people want their cake and eat too! The State is crackin' down on
people on disability because the State needs money. There only
several ways the State can generate revenue, one is to raise taxes and
"fees", two is to cut expenses, and three is to print up more money.
Remember, the Democrats are "tax and spend" and the Republicans are
"cut and spend"!

<chessucat twitches>

"chessucat" <chessucat@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 2, 11:04 pm, "The Dissociated Press" wrote:
> We all know about Gelly's situation, but I'm really thinking about it for
> the first time now. The way the government is behaving is totally insane.
> If
> they think she can't work then they shouldn't delay approval of benefits,
> and if they think she can then they shouldn't string her along. The whole
> thing amounts to torture and is starting to make me angry.
>

Gelly can work! She working right now, therefore she is NOT disable.
That 'fuckSSA' can work too, but he chooses not too. Sometimes,
people want their cake and eat too! The State is crackin' down on
people on disability because the State needs money. There only
several ways the State can generate revenue, one is to raise taxes and
"fees", two is to cut expenses, and three is to print up more money.
Remember, the Democrats are "tax and spend" and the Republicans are
"cut and spend"!

<chessucat twitches>

-------------------------------------------------------

Oh, come on, Ches! You know first-hand what it's like to be forced to hold
down a job when you just can't work. And even if you're right, what's the
purpose of waiting two years to set an appeal date? Only reasons I can think
of is so that the appellant will either give up or quietly die of starvation
in an alley. The fact that the government doesn't seem to care which of
those two happens, is what makes their behaviour inhumane. Since when is a
government entitled not to give two shits about its citizens?

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 01:08:26 -0400, in alt.support.schizophrenia "The Dissociated
Press" <thebibbleguy@yahoo.ca> wrote:

>
>"chessucat" <chessucat@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:63ebf783-0f4d-479d-8692-050cf38bed28@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>X-No-Archive: yes
>
>On Jul 2, 11:04 pm, "The Dissociated Press" wrote:
>> We all know about Gelly's situation, but I'm really thinking about it for
>> the first time now. The way the government is behaving is totally insane.
>> If
>> they think she can't work then they shouldn't delay approval of benefits,
>> and if they think she can then they shouldn't string her along. The whole
>> thing amounts to torture and is starting to make me angry.
>>
>
>Gelly can work! She working right now, therefore she is NOT disable.
>That 'fuckSSA' can work too, but he chooses not too. Sometimes,
>people want their cake and eat too! The State is crackin' down on
>people on disability because the State needs money. There only
>several ways the State can generate revenue, one is to raise taxes and
>"fees", two is to cut expenses, and three is to print up more money.
>Remember, the Democrats are "tax and spend" and the Republicans are
>"cut and spend"!
>
><chessucat twitches>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>
>Oh, come on, Ches! You know first-hand what it's like to be forced to hold
>down a job when you just can't work. And even if you're right, what's the
>purpose of waiting two years to set an appeal date? Only reasons I can think
>of is so that the appellant will either give up or quietly die of starvation
>in an alley. The fact that the government doesn't seem to care which of
>those two happens, is what makes their behaviour inhumane. Since when is a
>government entitled not to give two shits about its citizens?
>


Ever read the official USA definition of Communism? A government that feels it
has a responsibility for the welfare of its citizens. That is the USA
deffintion of communism, that is what our usa government thinks is so evil.

<fucksocialsecurity@statepatrolspies.fuckyou> wrote in message
news:booo64pb7c0k1d8kqpi5nkiu56q54ttlca@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 01:08:26 -0400, in alt.support.schizophrenia "The
> Dissociated
> Press" <thebibbleguy@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>>
>>"chessucat" <chessucat@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:63ebf783-0f4d-479d-8692-050cf38bed28@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>X-No-Archive: yes
>>
>>On Jul 2, 11:04 pm, "The Dissociated Press" wrote:
>>> We all know about Gelly's situation, but I'm really thinking about it
>>> for
>>> the first time now. The way the government is behaving is totally
>>> insane.
>>> If
>>> they think she can't work then they shouldn't delay approval of
>>> benefits,
>>> and if they think she can then they shouldn't string her along. The
>>> whole
>>> thing amounts to torture and is starting to make me angry.
>>>
>>
>>Gelly can work! She working right now, therefore she is NOT disable.
>>That 'fuckSSA' can work too, but he chooses not too. Sometimes,
>>people want their cake and eat too! The State is crackin' down on
>>people on disability because the State needs money. There only
>>several ways the State can generate revenue, one is to raise taxes and
>>"fees", two is to cut expenses, and three is to print up more money.
>>Remember, the Democrats are "tax and spend" and the Republicans are
>>"cut and spend"!
>>
>><chessucat twitches>
>>
>>-------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>Oh, come on, Ches! You know first-hand what it's like to be forced to hold
>>down a job when you just can't work. And even if you're right, what's the
>>purpose of waiting two years to set an appeal date? Only reasons I can
>>think
>>of is so that the appellant will either give up or quietly die of
>>starvation
>>in an alley. The fact that the government doesn't seem to care which of
>>those two happens, is what makes their behaviour inhumane. Since when is a
>>government entitled not to give two shits about its citizens?
>>
>
>
> Ever read the official USA definition of Communism? A government that
> feels it
> has a responsibility for the welfare of its citizens. That is the USA
> deffintion of communism, that is what our usa government thinks is so
> evil.

So are you saying government in the U.S. is a one-way street, where citizens
must keep commitments to the government and expect nothing in return? Sounds
bizarre to me.

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On Jul 3, 1:08*am, "The Dissociated Press" wrote:
>
> Oh, come on, Ches! You know first-hand what it's like to be forced to hold
> down a job when you just can't work. And even if you're right, what's the
> purpose of waiting two years to set an appeal date? Only reasons I can think
> of is so that the appellant will either give up or quietly die of starvation
> in an alley. The fact that the government doesn't seem to care which of
> those two happens, is what makes their behaviour inhumane. Since when is a
> government entitled not to give two shits about its citizens?

You are beginning to sound like ol' Damo the Crazy hippy!;-) yesh,
the State doesn't care if you starve to death. Gelly and Erik work
because they choose not to live on the street and starve. Canada take
care of its citzens a little bit better, but national socialistic
medical care just doesn't have a chance here.

<chessucat opines>

On Jul 2, 11:04 pm, "The Dissociated Press" <thebibble...@yahoo.ca>
wrote:
> We all know about Gelly's situation, but I'm really thinking about it for
> the first time now. The way the government is behaving is totally insane. If
> they think she can't work then they shouldn't delay approval of benefits,
> and if they think she can then they shouldn't string her along. The whole
> thing amounts to torture and is starting to make me angry.

The government isn't a person, and therefore it doesn't make any sense
to call it insane. It doesn't "think" anything. It's just a
bureaucratic machine.

"chessucat" <chessucat@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 3, 1:08 am, "The Dissociated Press" wrote:
>
> Oh, come on, Ches! You know first-hand what it's like to be forced to hold
> down a job when you just can't work. And even if you're right, what's the
> purpose of waiting two years to set an appeal date? Only reasons I can
> think
> of is so that the appellant will either give up or quietly die of
> starvation
> in an alley. The fact that the government doesn't seem to care which of
> those two happens, is what makes their behaviour inhumane. Since when is a
> government entitled not to give two shits about its citizens?

You are beginning to sound like ol' Damo the Crazy hippy!;-) yesh,
the State doesn't care if you starve to death. Gelly and Erik work
because they choose not to live on the street and starve. Canada take
care of its citzens a little bit better, but national socialistic
medical care just doesn't have a chance here.

<chessucat opines>

---------------------------------------------------

I take your point, and I think I understand now why everybody seemed to just
kind of accept Gelly's situation. But it's a really shitty way to run a
country.

"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0db49e18-7308-4a63-ac6b-556f9c20c266@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 2, 11:04 pm, "The Dissociated Press" <thebibble...@yahoo.ca>
> wrote:
>> We all know about Gelly's situation, but I'm really thinking about it for
>> the first time now. The way the government is behaving is totally insane.
>> If
>> they think she can't work then they shouldn't delay approval of benefits,
>> and if they think she can then they shouldn't string her along. The whole
>> thing amounts to torture and is starting to make me angry.
>
> The government isn't a person, and therefore it doesn't make any sense
> to call it insane. It doesn't "think" anything. It's just a
> bureaucratic machine.

It was the behaviour of government representatives that I was thinking
about. Thanks for the clarification. But my opinion of U.S. culture is now
plummetting.

On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:45:54 -0700 (PDT), in alt.support.schizophrenia chessucat
<chessucat@gmail.com> wrote:

>X-No-Archive: yes
>
>On Jul 3, 1:08*am, "The Dissociated Press" wrote:
>>
>> Oh, come on, Ches! You know first-hand what it's like to be forced to hold
>> down a job when you just can't work. And even if you're right, what's the
>> purpose of waiting two years to set an appeal date? Only reasons I can think
>> of is so that the appellant will either give up or quietly die of starvation
>> in an alley. The fact that the government doesn't seem to care which of
>> those two happens, is what makes their behaviour inhumane. Since when is a
>> government entitled not to give two shits about its citizens?
>
>You are beginning to sound like ol' Damo the Crazy hippy!;-) yesh,
>the State doesn't care if you starve to death. Gelly and Erik work
>because they choose not to live on the street and starve. Canada take
>care of its citzens a little bit better, but national socialistic
>medical care just doesn't have a chance here.
>
><chessucat opines>


Yeah the insurance companies, drug companies and the doctors won't have it.. Is
Damo still around?

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 03:26:41 -0400, in alt.support.schizophrenia "The Dissociated
Press" <thebibbleguy@yahoo.ca> wrote:

>
>"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:0db49e18-7308-4a63-ac6b-556f9c20c266@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 2, 11:04 pm, "The Dissociated Press" <thebibble...@yahoo.ca>
>> wrote:
>>> We all know about Gelly's situation, but I'm really thinking about it for
>>> the first time now. The way the government is behaving is totally insane.
>>> If
>>> they think she can't work then they shouldn't delay approval of benefits,
>>> and if they think she can then they shouldn't string her along. The whole
>>> thing amounts to torture and is starting to make me angry.
>>
>> The government isn't a person, and therefore it doesn't make any sense
>> to call it insane. It doesn't "think" anything. It's just a
>> bureaucratic machine.
>
>It was the behaviour of government representatives that I was thinking
>about. Thanks for the clarification. But my opinion of U.S. culture is now
>plummetting.
>


8 years of Dubya did that. But it really all started with Carter. The rich are
getting richer and the poor are getting poorer and its is all part of the plan.

<fucksocialsecurity@statepatrolspies.fuckyou> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:45:54 -0700 (PDT), in alt.support.schizophrenia
> chessucat
> <chessucat@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>X-No-Archive: yes
>>
>>On Jul 3, 1:08 am, "The Dissociated Press" wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh, come on, Ches! You know first-hand what it's like to be forced to
>>> hold
>>> down a job when you just can't work. And even if you're right, what's
>>> the
>>> purpose of waiting two years to set an appeal date? Only reasons I can
>>> think
>>> of is so that the appellant will either give up or quietly die of
>>> starvation
>>> in an alley. The fact that the government doesn't seem to care which of
>>> those two happens, is what makes their behaviour inhumane. Since when is
>>> a
>>> government entitled not to give two shits about its citizens?
>>
>>You are beginning to sound like ol' Damo the Crazy hippy!;-) yesh,
>>the State doesn't care if you starve to death. Gelly and Erik work
>>because they choose not to live on the street and starve. Canada take
>>care of its citzens a little bit better, but national socialistic
>>medical care just doesn't have a chance here.
>>
>><chessucat opines>
>
>
> Yeah the insurance companies, drug companies and the doctors won't have
> it.. Is
> Damo still around?

Yes, but he's busy. Dealing with a bit of a major crisis, as he has to move
by the start of September and, on his income, can't even afford a room in a
rooming house, let alone a place big enough for all of his stuff. Plus he's
got to figure out _how_ to move his stuff. Right now he's trying to motivate
himself to submit an assisted housing application which seems to have lain
around his apartment for a week. Severe motivational problems, and I'm
seriously concerned he'll end up taking no action until he gets thrown out
into the street. But what can a guy who's 900 miles away from him, and can't
cross the border to visit him in person, do?

<fucksocialsecurity@statepatrolspies.fuckyou> wrote in message
news:8d0q64tv8bghbpce13opuh5tvkgvcmf75m@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 03:26:41 -0400, in alt.support.schizophrenia "The
> Dissociated
> Press" <thebibbleguy@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:0db49e18-7308-4a63-ac6b-556f9c20c266@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Jul 2, 11:04 pm, "The Dissociated Press" <thebibble...@yahoo.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>> We all know about Gelly's situation, but I'm really thinking about it
>>>> for
>>>> the first time now. The way the government is behaving is totally
>>>> insane.
>>>> If
>>>> they think she can't work then they shouldn't delay approval of
>>>> benefits,
>>>> and if they think she can then they shouldn't string her along. The
>>>> whole
>>>> thing amounts to torture and is starting to make me angry.
>>>
>>> The government isn't a person, and therefore it doesn't make any sense
>>> to call it insane. It doesn't "think" anything. It's just a
>>> bureaucratic machine.
>>
>>It was the behaviour of government representatives that I was thinking
>>about. Thanks for the clarification. But my opinion of U.S. culture is now
>>plummetting.
>>
>
>
> 8 years of Dubya did that. But it really all started with Carter. The
> rich are
> getting richer and the poor are getting poorer and its is all part of the
> plan.

I'm amazed at how blandly people seem to accept the government not having
any responsibility for the well-being of its citizens. It suggests something
that runs much deeper than "8 years of Dubya." And I find it repugnant.

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:16:54 -0400, in alt.support.schizophrenia "The Dissociated
Press" <thebibbleguy@yahoo.ca> wrote:

>
><fucksocialsecurity@statepatrolspies.fuckyou> wrote in message
>news:7b0q64hspv5gsjp7kr7nb3aejdvdj6fqvq@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:45:54 -0700 (PDT), in alt.support.schizophrenia
>> chessucat
>> <chessucat@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>X-No-Archive: yes
>>>
>>>On Jul 3, 1:08 am, "The Dissociated Press" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Oh, come on, Ches! You know first-hand what it's like to be forced to
>>>> hold
>>>> down a job when you just can't work. And even if you're right, what's
>>>> the
>>>> purpose of waiting two years to set an appeal date? Only reasons I can
>>>> think
>>>> of is so that the appellant will either give up or quietly die of
>>>> starvation
>>>> in an alley. The fact that the government doesn't seem to care which of
>>>> those two happens, is what makes their behaviour inhumane. Since when is
>>>> a
>>>> government entitled not to give two shits about its citizens?
>>>
>>>You are beginning to sound like ol' Damo the Crazy hippy!;-) yesh,
>>>the State doesn't care if you starve to death. Gelly and Erik work
>>>because they choose not to live on the street and starve. Canada take
>>>care of its citzens a little bit better, but national socialistic
>>>medical care just doesn't have a chance here.
>>>
>>><chessucat opines>
>>
>>
>> Yeah the insurance companies, drug companies and the doctors won't have
>> it.. Is
>> Damo still around?
>
>Yes, but he's busy. Dealing with a bit of a major crisis, as he has to move
>by the start of September and, on his income, can't even afford a room in a
>rooming house, let alone a place big enough for all of his stuff. Plus he's
>got to figure out _how_ to move his stuff. Right now he's trying to motivate
>himself to submit an assisted housing application which seems to have lain
>around his apartment for a week. Severe motivational problems, and I'm
>seriously concerned he'll end up taking no action until he gets thrown out
>into the street. But what can a guy who's 900 miles away from him, and can't
>cross the border to visit him in person, do?
>


Last time I was on here he was living on the front porch of an abandoned house..
I did not know that he found a place to live..

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:18:56 -0400, in alt.support.schizophrenia "The Dissociated
Press" <thebibbleguy@yahoo.ca> wrote:

>
><fucksocialsecurity@statepatrolspies.fuckyou> wrote in message
>news:8d0q64tv8bghbpce13opuh5tvkgvcmf75m@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 03:26:41 -0400, in alt.support.schizophrenia "The
>> Dissociated
>> Press" <thebibbleguy@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:0db49e18-7308-4a63-ac6b-556f9c20c266@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Jul 2, 11:04 pm, "The Dissociated Press" <thebibble...@yahoo.ca>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> We all know about Gelly's situation, but I'm really thinking about it
>>>>> for
>>>>> the first time now. The way the government is behaving is totally
>>>>> insane.
>>>>> If
>>>>> they think she can't work then they shouldn't delay approval of
>>>>> benefits,
>>>>> and if they think she can then they shouldn't string her along. The
>>>>> whole
>>>>> thing amounts to torture and is starting to make me angry.
>>>>
>>>> The government isn't a person, and therefore it doesn't make any sense
>>>> to call it insane. It doesn't "think" anything. It's just a
>>>> bureaucratic machine.
>>>
>>>It was the behaviour of government representatives that I was thinking
>>>about. Thanks for the clarification. But my opinion of U.S. culture is now
>>>plummetting.
>>>
>>
>>
>> 8 years of Dubya did that. But it really all started with Carter. The
>> rich are
>> getting richer and the poor are getting poorer and its is all part of the
>> plan.
>
>I'm amazed at how blandly people seem to accept the government not having
>any responsibility for the well-being of its citizens. It suggests something
>that runs much deeper than "8 years of Dubya." And I find it repugnant.
>


It is the puritan work ethic that the USA was founded on..

<fucksocialsecurity@statepatrolspies.fuckyou> wrote in message
news:rk3q6497qshmgaj0eb67fsi19jfal65594@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:18:56 -0400, in alt.support.schizophrenia "The
> Dissociated
> Press" <thebibbleguy@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>>
>><fucksocialsecurity@statepatrolspies.fuckyou> wrote in message
>>news:8d0q64tv8bghbpce13opuh5tvkgvcmf75m@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 03:26:41 -0400, in alt.support.schizophrenia "The
>>> Dissociated
>>> Press" <thebibbleguy@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Pies de Arcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:0db49e18-7308-4a63-ac6b-556f9c20c266@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Jul 2, 11:04 pm, "The Dissociated Press" <thebibble...@yahoo.ca>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> We all know about Gelly's situation, but I'm really thinking about it
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the first time now. The way the government is behaving is totally
>>>>>> insane.
>>>>>> If
>>>>>> they think she can't work then they shouldn't delay approval of
>>>>>> benefits,
>>>>>> and if they think she can then they shouldn't string her along. The
>>>>>> whole
>>>>>> thing amounts to torture and is starting to make me angry.
>>>>>
>>>>> The government isn't a person, and therefore it doesn't make any sense
>>>>> to call it insane. It doesn't "think" anything. It's just a
>>>>> bureaucratic machine.
>>>>
>>>>It was the behaviour of government representatives that I was thinking
>>>>about. Thanks for the clarification. But my opinion of U.S. culture is
>>>>now
>>>>plummetting.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 8 years of Dubya did that. But it really all started with Carter. The
>>> rich are
>>> getting richer and the poor are getting poorer and its is all part of
>>> the
>>> plan.
>>
>>I'm amazed at how blandly people seem to accept the government not having
>>any responsibility for the well-being of its citizens. It suggests
>>something
>>that runs much deeper than "8 years of Dubya." And I find it repugnant.
>>
>
>
> It is the puritan work ethic that the USA was founded on..

Which I'm seeing through new eyes, and don't much like at all.

<fucksocialsecurity@statepatrolspies.fuckyou> wrote in message
news:bj3q64tbis62da0ui397ofbddrm0fsiaub@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:16:54 -0400, in alt.support.schizophrenia "The
> Dissociated
> Press" <thebibbleguy@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>>
>><fucksocialsecurity@statepatrolspies.fuckyou> wrote in message
>>news:7b0q64hspv5gsjp7kr7nb3aejdvdj6fqvq@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:45:54 -0700 (PDT), in alt.support.schizophrenia
>>> chessucat
>>> <chessucat@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>X-No-Archive: yes
>>>>
>>>>On Jul 3, 1:08 am, "The Dissociated Press" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, come on, Ches! You know first-hand what it's like to be forced to
>>>>> hold
>>>>> down a job when you just can't work. And even if you're right, what's
>>>>> the
>>>>> purpose of waiting two years to set an appeal date? Only reasons I can
>>>>> think
>>>>> of is so that the appellant will either give up or quietly die of
>>>>> starvation
>>>>> in an alley. The fact that the government doesn't seem to care which
>>>>> of
>>>>> those two happens, is what makes their behaviour inhumane. Since when
>>>>> is
>>>>> a
>>>>> government entitled not to give two shits about its citizens?
>>>>
>>>>You are beginning to sound like ol' Damo the Crazy hippy!;-) yesh,
>>>>the State doesn't care if you starve to death. Gelly and Erik work
>>>>because they choose not to live on the street and starve. Canada take
>>>>care of its citzens a little bit better, but national socialistic
>>>>medical care just doesn't have a chance here.
>>>>
>>>><chessucat opines>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah the insurance companies, drug companies and the doctors won't have
>>> it.. Is
>>> Damo still around?
>>
>>Yes, but he's busy. Dealing with a bit of a major crisis, as he has to
>>move
>>by the start of September and, on his income, can't even afford a room in
>>a
>>rooming house, let alone a place big enough for all of his stuff. Plus
>>he's
>>got to figure out _how_ to move his stuff. Right now he's trying to
>>motivate
>>himself to submit an assisted housing application which seems to have lain
>>around his apartment for a week. Severe motivational problems, and I'm
>>seriously concerned he'll end up taking no action until he gets thrown out
>>into the street. But what can a guy who's 900 miles away from him, and
>>can't
>>cross the border to visit him in person, do?
>>
>
>
> Last time I was on here he was living on the front porch of an abandoned
> house..
> I did not know that he found a place to live..

When was the last time you were on here?

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On Jul 3, 1:38*pm, fucksocialsecur...@statepatrolspies.fuckyou wrote:
>
> It is the puritan work ethic that the USA was founded on..

You don't work, you don't eat! Jesus and the Church will help out
those who are unable to work.

They say Obama wants to kicks some people off Disability too!

<chessucat twitches>

Social Security has plenty of money. This claim of bankrupting in 2042 is
bull. The republicans don't count the massive illegal imigrant population
that will become legal and be paying into the system by then.

The Dissociated Press wrote:
> <fucksocialsecurity@statepatrolspies.fuckyou> wrote in message
> news:booo64pb7c0k1d8kqpi5nkiu56q54ttlca@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 01:08:26 -0400, in alt.support.schizophrenia "The
>> Dissociated
>> Press" <thebibbleguy@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> "chessucat" <chessucat@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:63ebf783-0f4d-479d-8692-050cf38bed28@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>> X-No-Archive: yes
>>>
>>> On Jul 2, 11:04 pm, "The Dissociated Press" wrote:
>>>> We all know about Gelly's situation, but I'm really thinking about it
>>>> for
>>>> the first time now. The way the government is behaving is totally
>>>> insane.
>>>> If
>>>> they think she can't work then they shouldn't delay approval of
>>>> benefits,
>>>> and if they think she can then they shouldn't string her along. The
>>>> whole
>>>> thing amounts to torture and is starting to make me angry.
>>>>
>>> Gelly can work! She working right now, therefore she is NOT disable.
>>> That 'fuckSSA' can work too, but he chooses not too. Sometimes,
>>> people want their cake and eat too! The State is crackin' down on
>>> people on disability because the State needs money. There only
>>> several ways the State can generate revenue, one is to raise taxes and
>>> "fees", two is to cut expenses, and three is to print up more money.
>>> Remember, the Democrats are "tax and spend" and the Republicans are
>>> "cut and spend"!
>>>
>>> <chessucat twitches>
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Oh, come on, Ches! You know first-hand what it's like to be forced to hold
>>> down a job when you just can't work. And even if you're right, what's the
>>> purpose of waiting two years to set an appeal date? Only reasons I can
>>> think
>>> of is so that the appellant will either give up or quietly die of
>>> starvation
>>> in an alley. The fact that the government doesn't seem to care which of
>>> those two happens, is what makes their behaviour inhumane. Since when is a
>>> government entitled not to give two shits about its citizens?
>>>
>>
>> Ever read the official USA definition of Communism? A government that
>> feels it
>> has a responsibility for the welfare of its citizens. That is the USA
>> deffintion of communism, that is what our usa government thinks is so
>> evil.
>
> So are you saying government in the U.S. is a one-way street, where citizens
> must keep commitments to the government and expect nothing in return? Sounds
> bizarre to me.
>
>
That's the power of a centuries propaganda against the east.