Why are we alive?

Just wondering. I can't see any reason I'm alive myself.

Murphy's Law necessitates that "I have to be some where, some
time, in a universe that as everything. Everybody else and I have to
fulfil the "universal set". That's inevitable mathematical necessity.
But actually, God loves you and had you on His mind "before the
foundations of the world". God has a purpose for your life. Give your
life to Christ and let Him take care of everything for you.

"Playa Del Now" <fortoon@luneytunes.com> wrote in message
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> Just wondering. I can't see any reason I'm alive myself.

I always thought it was because there is a whole lot of f***ing going on.
Life is precious, though not uncommon. The reason we are here may be no
more than "grunt in the night" urges.

My mother was the last of 4 kids in her family, my father the last of 13
kids in his family. I am the last of 5 kids in my family. It has always
baffled me that I actually made it into this world. Why why why, I ask. So
many factors could have contributed to me not being here, yet here I am
nonetheless.

For whatever reason we are alive, we might as well make the best of it....

Just my two cent opinion


jerasmus

On Jul 30, 4:54 am, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:
> Murphy's Law necessitates that "I have to be some where, some
> time, in a universe that as everything. Everybody else and I have to
> fulfil the "universal set". That's inevitable mathematical necessity.
> But actually, God loves you and had you on His mind "before the
> foundations of the world". God has a purpose for your life. Give your
> life to Christ and let Him take care of everything for you.

Miguel, I have also come to the conclusion that everything exists
because of math. My current idea is that there is no zero really in
the universe, so everything HAS to exist, there can be no nothing,
because there can be no zero. And the universe has had an infinite
amount of time to evolve, and has developed ultra-complex chemistry
and life.

Alison

On Jul 30, 4:54 am, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:
> Murphy's Law necessitates that "I have to be some where, some
> time, in a universe that as everything. Everybody else and I have to
> fulfil the "universal set". That's inevitable mathematical necessity.
> But actually, God loves you and had you on His mind "before the
> foundations of the world". God has a purpose for your life. Give your
> life to Christ and let Him take care of everything for you.

But I do not believe in a loving god or Christ.

Alison

"Gelly" <Gelly.D@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 30, 4:54 am, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:
>> Murphy's Law necessitates that "I have to be some where, some
>> time, in a universe that as everything. Everybody else and I have to
>> fulfil the "universal set". That's inevitable mathematical necessity.
>> But actually, God loves you and had you on His mind "before the
>> foundations of the world". God has a purpose for your life. Give your
>> life to Christ and let Him take care of everything for you.
>
> But I do not believe in a loving god or Christ.
>
> Alison

Are you saying Christ is not a historical figure? (Not arguing with you
either way, just asking.)

On Jul 30, 9:34 pm, "Playa Del Now" <fort...@luneytunes.com> wrote:
> "Gelly" <Gell...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:bff3b837-db16-428c-bd78-63d6459a1d5c@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Jul 30, 4:54 am, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:
> >> Murphy's Law necessitates that "I have to be some where, some
> >> time, in a universe that as everything. Everybody else and I have to
> >> fulfil the "universal set". That's inevitable mathematical necessity.
> >> But actually, God loves you and had you on His mind "before the
> >> foundations of the world". God has a purpose for your life. Give your
> >> life to Christ and let Him take care of everything for you.
>
> > But I do not believe in a loving god or Christ.
>
> > Alison
>
> Are you saying Christ is not a historical figure? (Not arguing with you
> either way, just asking.)


Well, yes, a historical figure, but just a human being.

On Jul 30, 9:34 pm, "Playa Del Now" <fort...@luneytunes.com> wrote:
> "Gelly" <Gell...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:bff3b837-db16-428c-bd78-63d6459a1d5c@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Jul 30, 4:54 am, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:
> >> Murphy's Law necessitates that "I have to be some where, some
> >> time, in a universe that as everything. Everybody else and I have to
> >> fulfil the "universal set". That's inevitable mathematical necessity.
> >> But actually, God loves you and had you on His mind "before the
> >> foundations of the world". God has a purpose for your life. Give your
> >> life to Christ and let Him take care of everything for you.
>
> > But I do not believe in a loving god or Christ.
>
> > Alison
>
> Are you saying Christ is not a historical figure? (Not arguing with you
> either way, just asking.)

Is this Miki?

X-No-Archive: yes

On Jul 30, 5:25 pm, Gelly blasphemed:
>
> But I do not believe in a loving god or Christ.
>
> Alison

<chessucat throws a Bible at Gelly>

On Jul 30, 11:09 pm, chessucat <chessu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> On Jul 30, 5:25 pm, Gelly blasphemed:
>
>
>
> > But I do not believe in a loving god or Christ.
>
> > Alison
>
> <chessucat throws a Bible at Gelly>


Fine with me.

"Gelly" <Gelly.D@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 30, 9:34 pm, "Playa Del Now" <fort...@luneytunes.com> wrote:
>> "Gelly" <Gell...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:bff3b837-db16-428c-bd78-63d6459a1d5c@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On Jul 30, 4:54 am, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:
>> >> Murphy's Law necessitates that "I have to be some where, some
>> >> time, in a universe that as everything. Everybody else and I have to
>> >> fulfil the "universal set". That's inevitable mathematical necessity.
>> >> But actually, God loves you and had you on His mind "before the
>> >> foundations of the world". God has a purpose for your life. Give your
>> >> life to Christ and let Him take care of everything for you.
>>
>> > But I do not believe in a loving god or Christ.
>>
>> > Alison
>>
>> Are you saying Christ is not a historical figure? (Not arguing with you
>> either way, just asking.)
>
> Is this Miki?

Yes.

If there's no Zero then we can't become nonexistent. With my mind,
any consciousness, whatsoever, and Murphy's Law, something would be sure
to go wrong eventually. Surely eternal nonexistence would be a guarantee
of no suffering for eternity, and you need a Zero for that.
The singularity of a Black Hole is a Zero;; but, it is "rastered"
by time into space, that is one substance, which therefore exerts its
oneness in one direction, thereby stirring closed circuitry, that there
be something to move out of the way and fill in behind, that, all going
the same way, vO^XvO^, clash, and this is the Big Bang of a new world,
that some call a universe.
From this you can see how a new world comes from Zero. And
remember, -1+1=0. But, the -1 is a clockwise circuit, and, the +1 is a
counterclockwise circuit, so that when they merge face to face, like
coins, heads on tails, heads on tails, they undifferentiate into one
continuous cylinder of confluency.
In this example, the individual circuits have become Zeros, they
have lost their selves, they have become nonexistent, information has
been lost here, as guaranted by the Second Law of Thermodynmanics.
That mathematical concept, "if anything can happen it will",
fulfilling the "universal set", seems inescapable and very easy to
understand.

And, with this thing about zero, see below it.

Re: Why are we alive?

Group: alt.support.schizophrenia Date: Thu, Jul 31, 2008, 6:42am From:
gellie618@webtv.net (Miguel*Alberto)
************If there's no Zero then we can't
become nonexistent. With my mind, any consciousness, whatsoever, and
Murphy's Law, something would be sure to go wrong eventually. Surely
eternal nonexistence would be a guarantee of no suffering for eternity,
and you need a Zero for that.
************The singularity of a Black Hole is a
Zero;; but, it is "rastered" by time into space, that is one substance,
which therefore exerts its oneness in one direction, thereby stirring
closed circuitry, that there be something to move out of the way and
fill in behind, that, all going the same way, vO^XvO^, clash, and this
is the Big Bang of a new world, that some call a universe.
************From this you can see how a new
world comes from Zero. And remember, -1+1=0. But, the -1 is a clockwise
circuit, and, the +1 is a counterclockwise circuit, so that when they
merge face to face, like coins, heads on tails, heads on tails, they
undifferentiate into one continuous cylinder of confluency.
************In this example, the individual
circuits have become Zeros, they have lost their selves, they have
become nonexistent, information has been lost here, as guaranted by the
Second Law of Thermodynmanics.
************That mathematical concept, "if
anything can happen it will", fulfilling the "universal set", seems
inescapable and very easy to understand.


Re: Meditation and its Utility in Daily Life / Easier Than That

Group: alt.support.schizophrenia Date: Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 6:21am From:
gellie618@webtv.net (Miguel*Alberto)
************"Meditation corporations" give the
true "lost word" to those they feel are sincere. Others THEY give any
other sound.
************Breath? Check out
http://www.holotropic.com * * Now you have access to all the
secrets.
E-mail message
Sender: notify@yahoogroups.com From: lahunken@yahoo.com(lahunken) Date:
Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 10:14am (EDT+4) To: gellie618@webtv.net Subject: Fwd:
The Kaballah of the Ring
--- In alchemy61@yahoogroups.com, "lahunken" <lahunken@...> wrote:
********Not only are there apocraphal Old Testament
books like the Book of Enoch, the Book of Jasher, and the Book of Edom,
there are deleted apocraphal stories. * There is the story of King
Zerubbable, the High Priest Jeshua, and the Scribe Ezra returning from
the Babylonian Captivity to the ruins of King Solomon's Temple. There
they descended into a well and discovered that Lost Word, the Word of
Creation. * Kabalistic Rabbis say that the Torah originally began with
Aleph and ended in Tau, the A to Z of Hebrew. But, Genesis today begins
with Beth in Berashith, "In the beginning". But, with Aleph it
supposedly read, "Nothingness was not before God spoke the Word of
Nothingness". * There had to be nothing for God to create from
nothing. The word for nothing, not, nothingness, ring, and eye is Aleph
Yod Nun, pronounced eyennnnn, the onomatopoeic sound of a cylindrical
well. * Synesthesia is the mixing of the senses. It is not considered
a disease. In fact, all the geniuses, like Leonardo Da Vinci and
Gheorghe Rakoczy were synesthets. Well anyway, the flavor and odor of
licorice is synesthetically onomatopoeic of the Lost Word. Perhaps that
is why licorice is usually shaped into cylinders. The Lost Word in the
candy stores. * There is a movie titled "The Ring", which has many
things, synesthetically onomatopoeic to the Lost Word, veiled in it, but
the site about it has been wiped out. Alchemy 61 has got away with
things that have got many sites, publishing companies, and invention
brokers, wiped off the face of the earth. Remember what is here and
spread it.
--- End forwarded message ---

On 30 jul, 08:30, "Playa Del Now" <fort...@luneytunes.com> wrote:
> Just wondering. I can't see any reason I'm alive myself.

I used to think about the question can something come from nothing?

I concluded that the universe must have been always, regardless of the
big bang.

But I am a believer in Christ and I am not ashamed of it.

It may not all be like it is told in Bible though, I don't take the
Bible
serious to the letter.

Berty

Playa Del Now wrote:
PDN>Are you saying Christ is not a historical figure? (Not arguing with you
PDN>either way, just asking.)

She is a evil atheist!:-( Beware!

<chesucat twitches>

--
SDF Public Access UNIX System, Est. 1987 <http://sdf.lonestar.org/>

To program anything that is programmable is an obsession!

"Playa Del Now" <fort...@luneytunes.com> wrote in message
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>
>>
>> Is this Miki?
>
> Yes.
>

Hey Miki...

Master of disguise...alias the fiendish Dr. Fu Manchu, I always thought that
they should remake those old films. I remember watching them on Saturday
mornings at the local picture house, along with Chaplin and the three
stooges.

zerosky

"zerosky" <zerosky@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Playa Del Now" <fort...@luneytunes.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>>
>>> Is this Miki?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>
> Hey Miki...
>
> Master of disguise...alias the fiendish Dr. Fu Manchu, I always thought
> that they should remake those old films. I remember watching them on
> Saturday mornings at the local picture house, along with Chaplin and the
> three stooges.
>
> zerosky

No disguise intended, zerosky. I just presuppose that, since I'm not a
celebrity, people don't give a shit it's me behind the alias, so I don't
mention it.

In "The God-Code and Creation" Reverend Johnathan Lawton Hammond
said that this "world" isn't necessarily the first time God created a
world. And this Fundamentalist Christian preacher doesn't accept any
English translation of the Bible other than the King James Version.
Neither do I.
When you have absolute zero, like the singulartiy of a Black Hole,
it bursts into a new world with a Big Bang. With lesser extents of
nothingness you get lesser creations, like the quantum fluctuations of
the vacuum of timespace, and "zero point energy".
This is why the secret lodeges are involved in "sex magick". It,
of course, must be heterosexual, for the "opposite polarities" to cancel
out into some nothingness.
As the opposite polarities are brought together they retain the
impression of your thoughts and become a material basis, MB, for the
manifestation of those thoughts as reality, as the polarities cancel.
And since they draw upon their sources they don't run out in your
lifetime.
And, the secret lodges have the "lost word". By aligning closed
circuits to undifferentiate with each other into a cylinder, you have
more nothingness to burst into new creations. Think of the "lost word"
and make a wish.
With your imagination you determine the new creations and manifest
them into your life. Where ever you can get involved in such polarity
cancellation you can create for yourself.
As you cancel opposite polarities make a wish, and it will be.

"Miguel Alberto" <gellie618@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Murphy's Law necessitates that "I have to be some where, some
> time, in a universe that as everything. Everybody else and I have to
> fulfil the "universal set". That's inevitable mathematical necessity.

Except that theoretical mathematicians need psych meds even more than we do.
Some of their "reasoning" defies belief even for a scheezer.

> But actually, God loves you and had you on His mind "before the
> foundations of the world". God has a purpose for your life. Give your
> life to Christ and let Him take care of everything for you.

Tried that already and things between me and Christ didn't work out. But
thanks for your input.

On 1 aug, 13:38, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:
> * * * In "The God-Code and Creation" Reverend Johnathan Lawton Hammond
> said that this "world" isn't necessarily the first time God created a
> world. And this Fundamentalist Christian preacher doesn't accept any
> English translation of the Bible other than the King James Version.
> Neither do I.
> * * * When you have absolute zero, like the singulartiy of a Black Hole,
> it bursts into a new world with a Big Bang. With lesser extents of
> nothingness you get lesser creations, like the quantum fluctuations of
> the vacuum of timespace, and "zero point energy".
> * * * This is why the secret lodeges are involved in "sex magick". It,
> of course, must be heterosexual, for the "opposite polarities" to cancel
> out into some nothingness.
> * * * As the opposite polarities are brought together they retain the
> impression of your thoughts and become a material basis, MB, for the
> manifestation of those thoughts as reality, as the polarities cancel.
> And since they draw upon their sources they don't run out in your
> lifetime.
> * * * And, the secret lodges have the "lost word". By aligning closed
> circuits to undifferentiate with each other into a cylinder, you have
> more nothingness to burst into new creations. Think of the "lost word"
> and make a wish.
> * * * With your imagination you determine the new creations and manifest
> them into your life. Where ever you can get involved in such polarity
> cancellation you can create for yourself.
> * * * As you cancel opposite polarities make a wish, and it will be..

Holly cow, thats incredible, good stuff, you must publish.

Berty

This is a desperate war of self defense. I spread this stuff as
far as I can. I post it in Yahoo groups with thousands of members. Back
BC, Before Computers (the internet, that is) I compulsively wrote
"crank" letters to every newspaper and magazine in the country, etc.,
snail mail. It is an irresistable compulsion I will do every chance I
can until I win.

"Playa Del Now" <fortoon@luneytunes.com> wrote in message
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> Just wondering. I can't see any reason I'm alive myself.
>
Sex.

Playa Del Now wrote:
> Just wondering. I can't see any reason I'm alive myself.
>
>

We are alive to forgive the insane universe we projected when we
accepted the Ego's thought system of separation. We think we are
alive in bodies but we are not. It is all an Illusion that must
be undone by true forgiveness which is the realization that we are
at cause of everything in the universe so there is really nothing
to be upset about. The Ego wants us to think we are alive so we can
keep looking outward at the universe instead of inward at the Mind's
choice to project it. We exist as the cause of everything therefore
we have a choice over what affects us. The affects appeared to be
shared only because there is only one Mind appearing as many.

In short, we are alive in bodies in all dimensions (the other side too)
as the result of our acceptance of the Ego's thought system. When we
separated from God and found out he wasn't here with us in the Illusion
it created a tremendous sense of Guilt. We falsely believe that God
abandon us while we were stuck in pure consciousness and could no longer
feel his presence. So, we turned around and had a "oh sh**" moment and
that is when we created the Ego Mind. The Ego mind convinced us that God
wasn't with us in the Illusion because he was pissed that we no longer
shared his will. The Ego told us that God was coming to get us and that
we could hide out in the Universe in Bodies where he could not find us.
We are alive because we believed the crap the Ego was telling us.

What is REAL is that we never separated from God and we only fell into a
dreaming state which is already over in a quantum sense. The purpose of
living all these lifetimes is to forgive that initial unconscious guilt
over the separation from God so we can return to the state of pure
consciousness without the Ego. Once in this state of pure consciousness
the Holy Spirit will awaken us to our Oneness with God.

Whew!

peace