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Old 11-26-2007, 04:50 AM
ChrisC
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Default Bit disappointed in Zyban/Wellburtrin

Well it's almost a month now. I'm getting a fantastic AD effect. Never
felt more clear headed. Weight loss, big bonus. I'm starting to look
sexy again not a beer bellied man. My smoking has cut down, but I
haven't stopped. Is it just time to pull out the willpower?

Actually I have bought some gums maybe that will help. The pharmacist
says it takes different amounts of time for different people.
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Old 11-26-2007, 09:43 AM
FlatIronMike
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Default Re: Bit disappointed in Zyban/Wellburtrin

Chris, you have to make the commitment to quit in order for it to
happen. Certain the Wellbutrin can reduce your urges to smoke a lot,
but unless you actually make the jump to smobriety there is no magic
moment when it happens. Make the decision NOW to just quit. Do it.
And realize then that you are on the trail to health that just cutting
down shows you can be out there for you to enjoy. Sure, there will be
some days when it is harder than others but you do learn as time goes
on that it does get easier. Hang Tuff, Don't Puff!

Now, having said that, I strongly suggest you go to our 'unofficial
webpage' www.quitbuddies.org and read the FAQs there. We have a
wealth of information that can help you as you begin this journey. Do
come here often and 'read & post' as you will get support and insight
that only ex-smokers really can understand and 'get'. You can do it
just like us!

FlatironMike
Nine months, two weeks, one day, 2 hours, 30 minutes and 22 seconds.
5762 cigarettes not smoked, saving $1,728.63. Life saved: 2 weeks, 6
days, 10 minutes.
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:04 PM
DutchVanAfoort
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Default Re: Bit disappointed in Zyban/Wellburtrin

Yup! AD´s can help¨real good in your quit, but they won't quit
for you. You'll have to do that. Cutting down is going OK from
what I read?

"ChrisC" <> schreef in bericht ...
> Well it's almost a month now. I'm getting a fantastic AD effect. Never
> felt more clear headed. Weight loss, big bonus. I'm starting to look
> sexy again not a beer bellied man. My smoking has cut down, but I
> haven't stopped. Is it just time to pull out the willpower?
>
> Actually I have bought some gums maybe that will help. The pharmacist
> says it takes different amounts of time for different people.


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Old 11-26-2007, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: Bit disappointed in Zyban/Wellburtrin

Once upon a time, ChrisC said:

>Well it's almost a month now. I'm getting a fantastic AD effect. Never
>felt more clear headed. Weight loss, big bonus. I'm starting to look
>sexy again not a beer bellied man. My smoking has cut down, but I
>haven't stopped. Is it just time to pull out the willpower?
>
>Actually I have bought some gums maybe that will help. The pharmacist
>says it takes different amounts of time for different people.


Impossible to find anything that Mike hasn't already said in his post.
Let me just pat you on your back and tell you that you need to believe
in yourself. When you say to yourself that you can do it and truly
believe it, you have won a major battle.
Everybody here, *every* single person, was once where you were now.
And we all did it. And I bet my arm you are not the weakest among us.
So turn around, kick the nic demon that has been whispering eyes into
your ear and begin the voyage to freedom! Shove your lighter
collection into his ass while you're at it! He's into pain anyway!

--
Tihomir 5M3W *I don't smoke anymore*

It takes but one positive thought when given a chance to survive and thrive to overpower an entire army of negative thoughts. - Schuller, Robert H.
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Old 11-26-2007, 10:29 PM
Lynn
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nothing will get down until you put them down
--
Lynn VOF Leaper
"Everyone seems normal until you get to know them."



"ChrisC" <chrispche@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:538bf173-af4e-4291-a485-c536980a80d2@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> Well it's almost a month now. I'm getting a fantastic AD effect. Never
> felt more clear headed. Weight loss, big bonus. I'm starting to look
> sexy again not a beer bellied man. My smoking has cut down, but I
> haven't stopped. Is it just time to pull out the willpower?
>
> Actually I have bought some gums maybe that will help. The pharmacist
> says it takes different amounts of time for different people.



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Old 11-27-2007, 07:23 AM
ChrisC
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On Nov 26, 8:02 am, FlatIronMike <FlatironMike...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Chris, you have to make the commitment to quit in order for it to
> happen. Certain the Wellbutrin can reduce your urges to smoke a lot,
> but unless you actually make the jump to smobriety there is no magic
> moment when it happens. Make the decision NOW to just quit. Do it.
> And realize then that you are on the trail to health that just cutting
> down shows you can be out there for you to enjoy. Sure, there will be
> some days when it is harder than others but you do learn as time goes
> on that it does get easier. Hang Tuff, Don't Puff!
>
> Now, having said that, I strongly suggest you go to our 'unofficial
> webpage'www.quitbuddies.organd read the FAQs there. We have a
> wealth of information that can help you as you begin this journey. Do
> come here often and 'read & post' as you will get support and insight
> that only ex-smokers really can understand and 'get'. You can do it
> just like us!
>
> FlatironMike
> Nine months, two weeks, one day, 2 hours, 30 minutes and 22 seconds.
> 5762 cigarettes not smoked, saving $1,728.63. Life saved: 2 weeks, 6
> days, 10 minutes.


How about using Nicotine gums for cutting down? I have started this
yesterday and have not smoked since. I take about 5 gums a day. Is
this just delaying the inevitable when I run out of gums I'll wanna
puff again. Or am I breaking the ritual and habit of lighting up?
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:22 PM
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On 27 nov, 07:01, ChrisC <chrisp...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> How about using Nicotine gums for cutting down? I have started this
> yesterday and have not smoked since. I take about 5 gums a day. Is
> this just delaying the inevitable when I run out of gums I'll wanna
> puff again. Or am I breaking the ritual and habit of lighting up?


Well, opinions vary on this matter <bg> and my opinion is you are just
delaying the inevitable and replacing puffing with chewing. Not untill
you quit the gums as well, will you break the addiction to nicotine.

Like everyone has been saying, there is no miracle cure/pill/gum/
lozenge that will suddenly make you quit smoking. You are the one who
has to make the concious decision to quit. Kick that last butt and
never light up again. Don't lean on crutches. Those crutches will,
maybe, only replace the problem.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/02/bu...d=all&position

Inky,

Free since 22/06/07. No nicotine for 5 months, 5 days, 6 hours, 31
minutes and 32 seconds. That's 4748 stinkers not smoked, saving EURO
503,44. Reclaiming 2 weeks, 2 days, 11 hours, 40 minutes.
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:27 AM
Cindy Murray
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Yep, Inky is right. You have to to the actual quitting yourself. The
meds and the gums and the patches aren't going to do it for you. Try
this exercise that was part of the Chantix support program:

During the week before you quit, each time you smoke a cigarette, write
down the following information:

Where you were
What time of day it was
What you were doing
Who you were with
How did you feel (physically, emotionally, etc.)
Any other details you can think of

Start looking for patterns. Do you smoke every morning with your cup of
coffee? Do you get up after meals to go smoke? Do you smoke a lot when
you're around your good pal [insert name here]? Do you smoke when
you're paying bills, checking the mail, talking to you SO about
stressful topics?

The point is to notice what makes you want to smoke. Some of it is
nicotine withdrawal. Most of it is habit. Once you've figured out what
makes you want to smoke, then you need to start dealing with each
situation. When you quit, you need to find some alternative way to deal
with those situations. If you smoke a lot around [name here], then
don't hang around Bob as much or ask Bob not to smoke around you for a
while. If it's stress that makes you smoke, then deal with the stress.
If it's a habit, then change the habit.

But you have to actually set a date and quit. I'm surprised your doctor
did not tell you this.

Cindy
Smobriety comes to: 0Y 10M 3W D 18H 57Mns $-Saved to date: $1270.91
Cigs not smoked: 6435

Inky wrote:

> On 27 nov, 07:01, ChrisC <chrisp...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>How about using Nicotine gums for cutting down? I have started this
>>yesterday and have not smoked since. I take about 5 gums a day. Is
>>this just delaying the inevitable when I run out of gums I'll wanna
>>puff again. Or am I breaking the ritual and habit of lighting up?

>
>
> Well, opinions vary on this matter <bg> and my opinion is you are just
> delaying the inevitable and replacing puffing with chewing. Not untill
> you quit the gums as well, will you break the addiction to nicotine.
>
> Like everyone has been saying, there is no miracle cure/pill/gum/
> lozenge that will suddenly make you quit smoking. You are the one who
> has to make the concious decision to quit. Kick that last butt and
> never light up again. Don't lean on crutches. Those crutches will,
> maybe, only replace the problem.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/02/bu...d=all&position
>
> Inky,
>
> Free since 22/06/07. No nicotine for 5 months, 5 days, 6 hours, 31
> minutes and 32 seconds. That's 4748 stinkers not smoked, saving EURO
> 503,44. Reclaiming 2 weeks, 2 days, 11 hours, 40 minutes.

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