Fucked Up . Starting Over

nothing more to say

2 hours, 41 minutes and 21 seconds. 5 cigarettes not smoked, saving $0.50.
Life saved: 25 minutes.

Becky
disgusted

On May 15, 10:11*pm, "Becky" <sobern2...@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
> nothing more to say
>
> 2 hours, 41 minutes and 21 seconds. 5 cigarettes not smoked, saving $0.50.
> Life saved: 25 minutes.
>
> Becky
> *disgusted

Oh Becky, Becky, Becky so glad you have posted and your straight back
on the wagon but I don't mean to be rude but WHY oh why do you keep
punishing yourself like this girl? Its rich coming from me, I know. I
have quit and failed, quit and failed and quit and failed again and
again BUT you've seriously got to be getting sick of this now.

Your quit methods really aren't working for you are they? I had tried
most every method known to man, including hypnosis, the patch,
acupuncture et al, I even got just over a year under my belt using
Allan Carr's book in 2004 not recommending it because itscrewed my
head up big time and certainly had more than its fair share of impetus
into my failed marriage, I'm allergic to the patches and loathed the
gum (excuses, excuses....) BUT SERIOUSLY hon, you really do need to
try something radically different that is IF YOU REALLY WANT THIS!

Have you considered Chantix? - I know there is the cost factor but
what the hell is keeping on smoking costing you? Chantix does give you
breathing space and unless you have high blood pressure it is suitable
for most people, including those of us (me and others I have known)
with psychiatric history. It could get you beyond the first couple of
weeks at least which seems ot be your stumbling block - just a
thought ....

I really want you to do this Becky and I know YOU REALLY DO WANT TO
QUIT too or you wouldn't keep coming back here.

Hugs

Karen

One month, two weeks, one day, 4 hours, 32 minutes and 59 seconds. 923
cigarettes not smoked, saving $369.51. Life saved: 3 days, 4 hours, 55
minutes.

On May 15, 10:33*pm, Karen <sendka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 15, 10:11*pm, "Becky" <sobern2...@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > nothing more to say
>
> > 2 hours, 41 minutes and 21 seconds. 5 cigarettes not smoked, saving $0.50.
> > Life saved: 25 minutes.
>
> > Becky
> > *disgusted
>
> Oh Becky, Becky, Becky so glad you have posted and your straight back
> on the wagon but I don't mean to be rude but WHY oh why do you keep
> punishing yourself like this girl? Its rich coming from me, I know. I
> have quit and failed, quit and failed and quit and failed again and
> again BUT you've seriously got to be getting sick of this now.
>
> Your quit methods really aren't working for you are they? I had tried
> most every method known to man, including hypnosis, the patch,
> acupuncture et al, I even got just over a year under my belt using
> Allan Carr's book in 2004 not recommending it because itscrewed my
> head up big time and certainly had more than its fair share of impetus
> into my failed marriage, I'm allergic to the patches and loathed the
> gum (excuses, excuses....) BUT SERIOUSLY hon, you really do need to
> try something radically different that is IF YOU REALLY WANT THIS!
>
> Have you considered Chantix? - I know there is the cost factor but
> what the hell is keeping on smoking costing you? Chantix does give you
> breathing space and unless you have high blood pressure it is suitable
> for most people, including those of us (me and others I have known)
> with psychiatric history. It could get you beyond the first couple of
> weeks at least which seems ot be your stumbling block - just a
> thought ....
>
> I really want you to do this Becky and I know YOU REALLY DO WANT TO
> QUIT too or you wouldn't keep coming back here.
>
> Hugs
>
> Karen
>
> One month, two weeks, one day, 4 hours, 32 minutes and 59 seconds. 923
> cigarettes not smoked, saving $369.51. Life saved: 3 days, 4 hours, 55
> minutes.

Karen what lovely, sharing, thoughtful response.

Becky there are amazing people here who can help you if you come to us
first and RANT before smoking! Good for you for getting right back on
track! Stephanie

> I even got just over a year under my belt using
> Allan Carr's book in 2004 not recommending it because itscrewed my
> head up big time and certainly had more than its fair share of impetus
> into my failed marriage

I'm sure a book on quitting smoking should take somewhere between 98
and 99% of the responsibility for your marriage failing.

On May 16, 12:11*pm, "Becky" <sobern2...@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
> nothing more to say
>
> 2 hours, 41 minutes and 21 seconds. 5 cigarettes not smoked, saving $0.50.
> Life saved: 25 minutes.
>
> Becky
> *disgusted

Don't be disheartened Becky, Allen Carr tells us that resuming smoking
after a traumatic quit is not a sign of weakness, instead it can be
viewed as a logical decision to stop living a life of deprivation. It
can be very difficult quitting if you feel that you REALLY do want
another cigarette. Allen Carr suggests understanding why you want to
smoke and dealing with the brainwashing behind those desires. Once the
brainwashing is removed we are free of the heart wrenching desires
that sway us back time and time again to a life of smoking. I suggest
giving Allen Carr's book another go, and, as he states, do not treat
his words as advice, but as instruction. To pick and choose is to
lose. Good luck Becky and don't be too down on yourself. You'll make
it through this eventually, and it might be easier than you think.

Becky,

I would like to tell you that no human being, external power, or book
will rescue you from *YOU*. Only *you* can decide to not light the next
cigarette...
Put on your DDD brassier = Discipline, Determination, and Decision.
Don't stray from the path.

Live at AS3 and post often and never wander off or you may become weak
again.

You have a kid, a life, and a world Becky - make it happen.

x0x00xx
robbster


Burner Fan wrote:
> On May 16, 12:11 pm, "Becky" <sobern2...@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> nothing more to say
>>
>> 2 hours, 41 minutes and 21 seconds. 5 cigarettes not smoked, saving $0.50.
>> Life saved: 25 minutes.
>>
>> Becky
>> disgusted
>>
>
> Don't be disheartened Becky, Allen Carr tells us that resuming smoking
> after a traumatic quit is not a sign of weakness, instead it can be
> viewed as a logical decision to stop living a life of deprivation. It
> can be very difficult quitting if you feel that you REALLY do want
> another cigarette. Allen Carr suggests understanding why you want to
> smoke and dealing with the brainwashing behind those desires. Once the
> brainwashing is removed we are free of the heart wrenching desires
> that sway us back time and time again to a life of smoking. I suggest
> giving Allen Carr's book another go, and, as he states, do not treat
> his words as advice, but as instruction. To pick and choose is to
> lose. Good luck Becky and don't be too down on yourself. You'll make
> it through this eventually, and it might be easier than you think.
>

--
If you hold the thought, it begins to form.
Your attitude can change your reality.

As long as you keep getting up after the fall, you have not fucked up. Love
ya

--
AZ
"Becky" <sobern2003@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:SeadnVGdFaSGcLHVnZ2dnUVZ_oSunZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> nothing more to say
>
> 2 hours, 41 minutes and 21 seconds. 5 cigarettes not smoked, saving $0.50.
> Life saved: 25 minutes.
>
> Becky
> disgusted
>
>

On 16 mei, 04:11, "Becky" <sobern2...@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
> nothing more to say
>
> 2 hours, 41 minutes and 21 seconds. 5 cigarettes not smoked, saving $0.50.
> Life saved: 25 minutes.
>
> Becky
> disgusted

Smoking is a choice. What takes more time? Posting a help call to as3
or going out to buy cigarettes? People saying relapse is a natural
part of quitting just keep giving you an excuse to do it over and over
again.

No, I'm not trying to lecture you. You are only making it harder on
yourself. How many times do you need to fall down before it finally
hits you?

Inky,

Free since 22/06/07. No nicotine for 10 months, 3 weeks, 3 days, 6
hours, 12 minutes and 13 seconds. That's 9877 stinkers not smoked,
saving € 1.047,04. Reclaiming 4 weeks, 6 days, 7 hours, 5 minutes.

Becky wrote:
> nothing more to say

That's BS and you know it. There's plenty to say. If you're to be a
part of this "community", it would help to hear your thoughts on what
caused you to blow a one week quit without checking in, posting a
"Help, this sucks" or anything. Just "I Fucked Up. Starting Over". I
know I've probably been guilty of the same thing, but you seem to be
the queen of failed quits.

As soon as I saw the subject, I knew exactly who started the thread.
You seem to be able to get through the first week and then, without
warning, post something like this or simply disappear.

I'm going on a week of vacation at the beach on Sunday. Most of that
week will be by myself and it has been the source of failed quits in
the past. I was wondering this morning on the way to work how I would
best manage the first part of the week without relapsing. But you
know what, Becky? You've just given me the perfect motivation to
remain smokefree. Thanks.

> 2 hours, 41 minutes and 21 seconds. 5 cigarettes not smoked, saving $0.50.
> Life saved: 25 minutes.
>
> Becky
> *disgusted

Me too.
Rob

Would you like me to just not come back here,Rob? I can arrange that if yu
like
Becky

"Billy Bob F." <billybobf@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8d7699b3-cbac-4bae-898e-dc21d75f9aef@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
Becky wrote:
> nothing more to say

That's BS and you know it. There's plenty to say. If you're to be a
part of this "community", it would help to hear your thoughts on what
caused you to blow a one week quit without checking in, posting a
"Help, this sucks" or anything. Just "I Fucked Up. Starting Over". I
know I've probably been guilty of the same thing, but you seem to be
the queen of failed quits.

As soon as I saw the subject, I knew exactly who started the thread.
You seem to be able to get through the first week and then, without
warning, post something like this or simply disappear.

I'm going on a week of vacation at the beach on Sunday. Most of that
week will be by myself and it has been the source of failed quits in
the past. I was wondering this morning on the way to work how I would
best manage the first part of the week without relapsing. But you
know what, Becky? You've just given me the perfect motivation to
remain smokefree. Thanks.

> 2 hours, 41 minutes and 21 seconds. 5 cigarettes not smoked, saving $0.50.
> Life saved: 25 minutes.
>
> Becky
> disgusted

Me too.
Rob

"Karen" <sendkaren@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6f1fd008-9d07-4bb5-9b6e-ef06b11ea830@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
On May 15, 10:11 pm, "Becky" <sobern2...@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
> nothing more to say
>
> 2 hours, 41 minutes and 21 seconds. 5 cigarettes not smoked, saving $0.50.
> Life saved: 25 minutes.
>
> Becky
> disgusted

Oh Becky, Becky, Becky so glad you have posted and your straight back
on the wagon but I don't mean to be rude but WHY oh why do you keep
punishing yourself like this girl? Its rich coming from me, I know. I
have quit and failed, quit and failed and quit and failed again and
again BUT you've seriously got to be getting sick of this now.

Yeah I am.I dont know why I kee doing thsi to myself.


Your quit methods really aren't working for you are they? I had tried
most every method known to man, including hypnosis, the patch,
acupuncture et al, I even got just over a year under my belt using
Allan Carr's book in 2004 not recommending it because itscrewed my
head up big time and certainly had more than its fair share of impetus
into my failed marriage, I'm allergic to the patches and loathed the
gum (excuses, excuses....) BUT SERIOUSLY hon, you really do need to
try something radically different that is IF YOU REALLY WANT THIS!

I dont think the methods have failed. I have. They have kept me from chewing
the paint off the walls the past week.


Have you considered Chantix? - I know there is the cost factor but
what the hell is keeping on smoking costing you? Chantix does give you
breathing space and unless you have high blood pressure it is suitable
for most people, including those of us (me and others I have known)
with psychiatric history. It could get you beyond the first couple of
weeks at least which seems ot be your stumbling block - just a
thought ....

i have thought about the Chantix. My doctor wont prescribe it for me. she is
adamant that I not use it,given my history of depression and mood swings.


I really want you to do this Becky and I know YOU REALLY DO WANT TO
QUIT too or you wouldn't keep coming back here.

Hugs

Karen

hug to yu too,Karen
Becky

One month, two weeks, one day, 4 hours, 32 minutes and 59 seconds. 923
cigarettes not smoked, saving $369.51. Life saved: 3 days, 4 hours, 55
minutes.

i agree abotu the ranting. I was at work and had no access to a computer.
sadly that is where many of my busted quits start..at work.
Becky
"Stephanie" <sajesqnyc@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:74e130c1-03bd-46b0-ab31-0ab8c8046f3a@24g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On May 15, 10:33 pm, Karen <sendka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 15, 10:11 pm, "Becky" <sobern2...@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > nothing more to say
>
> > 2 hours, 41 minutes and 21 seconds. 5 cigarettes not smoked, saving
> > $0.50.
> > Life saved: 25 minutes.
>
> > Becky
> > disgusted
>
> Oh Becky, Becky, Becky so glad you have posted and your straight back
> on the wagon but I don't mean to be rude but WHY oh why do you keep
> punishing yourself like this girl? Its rich coming from me, I know. I
> have quit and failed, quit and failed and quit and failed again and
> again BUT you've seriously got to be getting sick of this now.
>
> Your quit methods really aren't working for you are they? I had tried
> most every method known to man, including hypnosis, the patch,
> acupuncture et al, I even got just over a year under my belt using
> Allan Carr's book in 2004 not recommending it because itscrewed my
> head up big time and certainly had more than its fair share of impetus
> into my failed marriage, I'm allergic to the patches and loathed the
> gum (excuses, excuses....) BUT SERIOUSLY hon, you really do need to
> try something radically different that is IF YOU REALLY WANT THIS!
>
> Have you considered Chantix? - I know there is the cost factor but
> what the hell is keeping on smoking costing you? Chantix does give you
> breathing space and unless you have high blood pressure it is suitable
> for most people, including those of us (me and others I have known)
> with psychiatric history. It could get you beyond the first couple of
> weeks at least which seems ot be your stumbling block - just a
> thought ....
>
> I really want you to do this Becky and I know YOU REALLY DO WANT TO
> QUIT too or you wouldn't keep coming back here.
>
> Hugs
>
> Karen
>
> One month, two weeks, one day, 4 hours, 32 minutes and 59 seconds. 923
> cigarettes not smoked, saving $369.51. Life saved: 3 days, 4 hours, 55
> minutes.

Karen what lovely, sharing, thoughtful response.

Becky there are amazing people here who can help you if you come to us
first and RANT before smoking! Good for you for getting right back on
track! Stephanie

ThanksRobb
Becky
"-<==robbster==->" <robbREMOVEALL@CAPSciggyfree.org> wrote in message
news:WDdXj.3935$LL.2224@trnddc04...
> Becky,
>
> I would like to tell you that no human being, external power, or book will
> rescue you from *YOU*. Only *you* can decide to not light the next
> cigarette...
> Put on your DDD brassier = Discipline, Determination, and Decision.
> Don't stray from the path.
> Live at AS3 and post often and never wander off or you may become weak
> again.
> You have a kid, a life, and a world Becky - make it happen.
>
> x0x00xx
> robbster
>
>
> Burner Fan wrote:
>> On May 16, 12:11 pm, "Becky" <sobern2...@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> nothing more to say
>>>
>>> 2 hours, 41 minutes and 21 seconds. 5 cigarettes not smoked, saving
>>> $0.50.
>>> Life saved: 25 minutes.
>>>
>>> Becky
>>> disgusted
>>>
>>
>> Don't be disheartened Becky, Allen Carr tells us that resuming smoking
>> after a traumatic quit is not a sign of weakness, instead it can be
>> viewed as a logical decision to stop living a life of deprivation. It
>> can be very difficult quitting if you feel that you REALLY do want
>> another cigarette. Allen Carr suggests understanding why you want to
>> smoke and dealing with the brainwashing behind those desires. Once the
>> brainwashing is removed we are free of the heart wrenching desires
>> that sway us back time and time again to a life of smoking. I suggest
>> giving Allen Carr's book another go, and, as he states, do not treat
>> his words as advice, but as instruction. To pick and choose is to
>> lose. Good luck Becky and don't be too down on yourself. You'll make
>> it through this eventually, and it might be easier than you think.
>>
>
> --
> If you hold the thought, it begins to form.
> Your attitude can change your reality.

Thanks for not beatign me up over it. i do plenty of that myself.
Becky

"AZ" <zikra.nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1RdXj.21079$C8.20788@bignews2.bellsouth.net.. .
> As long as you keep getting up after the fall, you have not fucked up.
> Love ya
>
> --
> AZ
> "Becky" <sobern2003@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:SeadnVGdFaSGcLHVnZ2dnUVZ_oSunZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> nothing more to say
>>
>> 2 hours, 41 minutes and 21 seconds. 5 cigarettes not smoked, saving
>> $0.50. Life saved: 25 minutes.
>>
>> Becky
>> disgusted
>>
>>
>
>

I really wish I had had access to a computer before i fucked up Sadly,like
so many of my slips, I was at work where I dont have access to a computer.I
let my feelings get the best of me. It doenst help that there was a pack of
cigs someone left in a locker and forgot about. those were preying on my
mind and so I grabbed them and smoked a couple.
becky
"Inky" <InkyNL@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:074995b1-fc36-44c5-96da-b5c7f8075f19@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On 16 mei, 04:11, "Becky" <sobern2...@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
> nothing more to say
>
> 2 hours, 41 minutes and 21 seconds. 5 cigarettes not smoked, saving $0.50.
> Life saved: 25 minutes.
>
> Becky
> disgusted

Smoking is a choice. What takes more time? Posting a help call to as3
or going out to buy cigarettes? People saying relapse is a natural
part of quitting just keep giving you an excuse to do it over and over
again.

No, I'm not trying to lecture you. You are only making it harder on
yourself. How many times do you need to fall down before it finally
hits you?

Inky,

Free since 22/06/07. No nicotine for 10 months, 3 weeks, 3 days, 6
hours, 12 minutes and 13 seconds. That's 9877 stinkers not smoked,
saving € 1.047,04. Reclaiming 4 weeks, 6 days, 7 hours, 5 minutes.

On Thu, 15 May 2008 22:11:36 -0400, "Becky"
<sobern2003@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:

>nothing more to say
>
>2 hours, 41 minutes and 21 seconds. 5 cigarettes not smoked, saving $0.50.
>Life saved: 25 minutes.
>
>Becky
> disgusted
>

You will continue to fail as long as you think something else will
"make" you quit. Only YOU can make you quit.

Throw away or give away all those NRTs that have done absolutely
nothing for you.

You KNOW you have what it takes to quit, you just need to find it
again. Reach deep down into yourself and grab onto that rock solid
determination that keeps escaping you. You HAVE what it takes, stop
smothering it with gum, patches, whatever else you've tried that has
not worked.

If need be find yourself another job. Someplace you can't smoke.

You're worth it. Now do it.

--
BessieBee
"Why isn't the number 11 pronounced onety-one?"

Becky wondered:
> Would you like me to just not come back here,Rob?

No. Actually, I'd like Burner Fan/TheFleece to just not come back
here :-)

Becky, of all the people who participate in this group, there is
nobody else I would like to see succeed more than you. I mean that.
But it's extremely frustrating offering support to someone who doesn't
seem to want to quit smoking. I'm sure that people have felt the same
about me. I just checked and I've been posting on this newsgroup for
the past thirteen years or so (off and on), so I am obviously somewhat
guilty of the same behaviour.

I don't know your circumstances, so I can't say for sure why, with
patches and Zyban you couldn't make it through eight days without
smoking. That's the purpose of my original post--not to beat you up.
I was just wondering what was going through your head at the time.
That's all. I wanted for you to share it with the group.

It's good that you've quit again. Let me offer some suggestions for
the next time you find yourself in the same situation. Most of these
are not original, but then quitting smoking isn't exactly cutting edge
science.

1. Call a friend.
2. Run up and down a couple of flights of stairs. Gasping for breath
is an excellent reminder of why you're quitting.
3. Don't bum a cigarette.
a) If you're going to smoke, go and buy your own.
b) Don't buy the pack where you're having the crave. Do the guilt
walk/drive to get them.
c) Once you buy the pack, take out one cigarette (that's all you want
anyway, isn't it?). Throw the rest away.
4. Post to the group if at home.
5. If at work, simply vow to not smoke today. Regardless of whether
you smoke or not, the urge will go away--particularly with Zyban and
patches. If this seems too hard, delay it by 15 minutes. If you can
delay smoking, the urge will pass.
6. Write out a list of reasons why you're quitting. Keep it with
you.
7. Take a few very deep breaths. Then hold one for as long as you
can comfortably do so. Repeat once more.

Best wishes...really.
Rob

On Thu, 15 May 2008 22:11:36 -0400, "Becky"
<sobern2003@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:

>nothing more to say
>
>Becky
> disgusted
>

Self-disgust worked for me when I fell off.
Disgust is good. Discouragement is not..
Really..."Disgust" does not have to be a bad word.

For example, when I was a kid, I found a discarded partly full bottle
of gin. I'll bypass the details, but can ASSURE you that Mr. Disgust
guaranteed I never went near it again!

"Becky" <sobern2003@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:SeadnVGdFaSGcLHVnZ2dnUVZ_oSunZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> nothing more to say
>
> 2 hours, 41 minutes and 21 seconds. 5 cigarettes not smoked, saving $0.50.
> Life saved: 25 minutes.
>
> Becky
> disgusted

No way am I standing in judgement, been there too many times myself.

I think you should ask for a second opinion on the Champix, Given your
history is there anyone who can check you out daily just to make sure you
are OK, this may reassure the doctor. My doctor insisted I saw him once a
week plus I saw the nurse at the quit clinic each week. I have psychotic
episodes but went through the twelve week with virtually no side effects
apart from a little bit of sleep disturbance.

Keep making a nuisance of yourself and he might let you have them just to
shut you up!!

Keep trying whatever you do, you must succeed at some point.

Bill

On May 16, 8:20*am, "Becky" <sobern2...@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
> I really wish I had had access to a computer before i fucked up Sadly,like
> so many of my slips, I was at work where I dont have access to a computer.I
> let my feelings get the best of me. It doenst help that there was a pack of
> cigs someone left in a locker and forgot about. those were preying on my
> mind and so *I grabbed them and smoked a couple.
> *becky"Inky" <Ink...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:074995b1-fc36-44c5-96da-b5c7f8075f19@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On 16 mei, 04:11, "Becky" <sobern2...@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > nothing more to say
>
> > 2 hours, 41 minutes and 21 seconds. 5 cigarettes not smoked, saving $0.50.
> > Life saved: 25 minutes.
>
> > Becky
> > *disgusted
>
> Smoking is a choice. What takes more time? Posting a help call to as3
> or going out to buy cigarettes? People saying relapse is a natural
> part of quitting just keep giving you an excuse to do it over and over
> again.
>
> No, I'm not trying to lecture you. You are only making it harder on
> yourself. How many times do you need to fall down before it finally
> hits you?
>
> Inky,
>
> Free since 22/06/07. No nicotine for 10 months, 3 weeks, 3 days, 6
> hours, 12 minutes and 13 seconds. That's 9877 stinkers not smoked,
> saving € 1.047,04. Reclaiming 4 weeks, 6 days, 7 hours, 5 minutes.

Becky I think you have gotten a lot of solid, passionate advice. I
would just add: you need to work out a plan for temptations at work
when your are without a computer. Perhaps you need to tell all of
your coworkers that you are quitting smoking and want to be talked
down from the ledge if you go there. I would absolutely tell one
friend, and ask for support. telling her that you don't know when
you'll lean on her but you will need to count on her to buck you up
when you do reach out to her. Then you have to plant it firmly in your
head "I know this is a high risk situation. I'm going to put all of
my energy to bear on protecting myself against a busted quit. at
work" Get angry at the insidious nature of this poison. Decide who
is boss. Who wants to be in control.

THe other thing is start realizing that you are accountable to this
group. It is only because I don't want to post a Fucked Up Starting
Over thread that I sustain this quit every day. I'm serious. When it
gets mano a mano with the fucking horrible killer addiction it is the
bottom line accountability to this group that keeps me quit, above and
beyond other motives. Make it not OK for yourself to come here and
confess another failure. Accountability to this group sometimes feels
stronger and that to which I hold a closer allegiance than even to
myself.

Remember it gets better as the weeks go on. I think you think that
the pain you feel at 8 days will last forever., It won't. It WILL
get better. But you have to keep adding up time and NOT going
backwards into the unmitigated hell that is week 1.

Holding good thoughts for you, as I know we all are

Stephanie

Shit happens. You're doing fine. Just don't quit quitting.

Stay close to the group.

ep oooooooof

"Becky" <sobern2003@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
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> nothing more to say
>
> 2 hours, 41 minutes and 21 seconds. 5 cigarettes not smoked, saving $0.50.
> Life saved: 25 minutes.
>
> Becky
> disgusted
>
>

Great post, Stephanie.

ep oooooooof

"Stephanie" <sajesqnyc@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bb1ea489-cb22-4441-8ce9-a77aacd999f5@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On May 16, 8:20 am, "Becky" <sobern2...@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
> I really wish I had had access to a computer before i fucked up Sadly,like
> so many of my slips, I was at work where I dont have access to a
> computer.I
> let my feelings get the best of me. It doenst help that there was a pack
> of
> cigs someone left in a locker and forgot about. those were preying on my
> mind and so I grabbed them and smoked a couple.
> becky"Inky" <Ink...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:074995b1-fc36-44c5-96da-b5c7f8075f19@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On 16 mei, 04:11, "Becky" <sobern2...@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > nothing more to say
>
> > 2 hours, 41 minutes and 21 seconds. 5 cigarettes not smoked, saving
> > $0.50.
> > Life saved: 25 minutes.
>
> > Becky
> > disgusted
>
> Smoking is a choice. What takes more time? Posting a help call to as3
> or going out to buy cigarettes? People saying relapse is a natural
> part of quitting just keep giving you an excuse to do it over and over
> again.
>
> No, I'm not trying to lecture you. You are only making it harder on
> yourself. How many times do you need to fall down before it finally
> hits you?
>
> Inky,
>
> Free since 22/06/07. No nicotine for 10 months, 3 weeks, 3 days, 6
> hours, 12 minutes and 13 seconds. That's 9877 stinkers not smoked,
> saving € 1.047,04. Reclaiming 4 weeks, 6 days, 7 hours, 5 minutes.

Becky I think you have gotten a lot of solid, passionate advice. I
would just add: you need to work out a plan for temptations at work
when your are without a computer. Perhaps you need to tell all of
your coworkers that you are quitting smoking and want to be talked
down from the ledge if you go there. I would absolutely tell one
friend, and ask for support. telling her that you don't know when
you'll lean on her but you will need to count on her to buck you up
when you do reach out to her. Then you have to plant it firmly in your
head "I know this is a high risk situation. I'm going to put all of
my energy to bear on protecting myself against a busted quit. at
work" Get angry at the insidious nature of this poison. Decide who
is boss. Who wants to be in control.

THe other thing is start realizing that you are accountable to this
group. It is only because I don't want to post a Fucked Up Starting
Over thread that I sustain this quit every day. I'm serious. When it
gets mano a mano with the fucking horrible killer addiction it is the
bottom line accountability to this group that keeps me quit, above and
beyond other motives. Make it not OK for yourself to come here and
confess another failure. Accountability to this group sometimes feels
stronger and that to which I hold a closer allegiance than even to
myself.

Remember it gets better as the weeks go on. I think you think that
the pain you feel at 8 days will last forever., It won't. It WILL
get better. But you have to keep adding up time and NOT going
backwards into the unmitigated hell that is week 1.

Holding good thoughts for you, as I know we all are

Stephanie

"Becky" <sobern2003@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:5_Sdnf-DoIm-57DVnZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d@comcast.com...
> I dont think the methods have failed. I have. They have kept me from
> chewing the paint off the walls the past week.

Neither you nor your methods have failed. You're still quitting. Which
means you're still winning.

It's a process, not an event. For many of us, the process includes
relapses.

It's not the end of the world. It's just another stupid relapse by just
another brave quitter. This won't matter a year from now -- if you keep on
keeping on like you are, slips and all. Don't over-dramatize. Relapsing
sucks, I wouldn't wish it on a dog, but keep your perspective. In the long
run, you'll be free.

If there's anything you can learn from this relapse, learn it. If not, stop
beating yourself up and keep on quitting. Just my two cents.

ep oooooooof

Becky wrote:
> nothing more to say
>
> 2 hours, 41 minutes and 21 seconds. 5 cigarettes not smoked, saving $0.50.
> Life saved: 25 minutes.
>
> Becky
> disgusted
>
>
You're back. That matters. Keep up the good quit.

ConcordPhil

sobern2003@nospam.comcast.net wrote:

> nothing more to say
>
> 2 hours, 41 minutes and 21 seconds. 5 cigarettes not smoked, saving $0.50.
> Life saved: 25 minutes.
>
> Becky

Damn - you were doing so well and got to the end of the first week
which is the worst week.
I also did one week of not smoking with the aid of Chamcix but became
very melancholy - a side effect of the medicine) and went back to
smoking 40 ciggies a day. I'm on my second attempt to stop
smoking and have reached the forty-sixth day. So you see, it can be done
if you stick it out for four weeks, at which point I found I had lost
all but a bit of the addiction. I don't say it's easy: my two first
weeks were terrible but now at just over six weeks I find I can
(almost) forget about cigarettes. I get only two strong urges to smoke,
on drinking my first mug of instant coffee
and when logging on.
You've had a lot of good advice from others; keep reading and posting
in here, it was - still is - a great aid to me
and will be for you.
--
Ian Official Town Drunk
Ft Worth, TX

Don't quit quitting.

Learn from slip. Make it a positive.

You CAN do this!

Hugs,
Marvin


Becky wrote:
> nothing more to say
>
> 2 hours, 41 minutes and 21 seconds. 5 cigarettes not smoked, saving $0.50.
> Life saved: 25 minutes.
>
> Becky
> disgusted

Becky-
I haven't posted here in quite a while, because, to be honest, I quit
smoking 1 year and almost 4 months ago and I'm doing fine, no I'm not
complacent, I just found my self esteem. But something happened to me
today, so I thought I'd check in here and see how people are doing,
then I read your post. Maybe hearing this short story will keep you on
the wagon.......
I deliver meals to homebound people on Fridays. I have a newer client
that I've only been to 4 times, the 5th time was today. Up until now I
had assumed that he enjoyed wood working or refinishing because his
hands are stained brown and there is always what looks like sawdust on
his clothes. Well today I found out that it had nothing to do with
wood working. He's a smoker, a constant, chain smoking, smoker. The
staining of his hands (and face, ewwww) is nicotine and the saw dust
is ash. I'm telling you the staining is SO bad that it's brown, not
yellow.
You should be disgusted. Some people say that a slip is part of a
quit, that's BS and you, all of you, know it. If you slip then you
didn't quit, it's as simple as that. Is quitting easy? No, but did
someone tell you it would be? If you're not really ready to quit, then
none of what any of us has to say will help. It's up to you. Quit,
really quit when you're ready. Here's a saying that I used early on in
my quit - I can smoke tomorrow, but not today. Guess what, with that
saying, tomorrow never comes and that's OK.
Good luck.

Jenn - 007
1 year, 3 months, 3 weeks, 1 day of complete and total freedom and
proud of it.

On May 16, 8:20*am, "Becky" <sobern2...@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
> I really wish I had had access to a computer before i fucked up Sadly,like
> so many of my slips, I was at work where I dont have access to a computer.I
> let my feelings get the best of me. It doenst help that there was a pack of
> cigs someone left in a locker and forgot about. those were preying on my
> mind and so *I grabbed them and smoked a couple.
> *becky"Inky" <Ink...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
><snip>

FWIW, I also recently faced relapse challenges. I went to Cuba, and I
resisted the whole time I was there, but broke down and bought a box
of cigars at the duty free on the way home. Long story short, I smoked
them, 1 a day and the last one was yesterday. Well, you don’t actually
inhale with cigars, the enjoyment comes from the holding the smoke in
your mouth, and the flavors, taste and smell it generates. Anyway I’m
glad there gone and feel like I was flirting with danger big time,
because I was starting to look forward to coming home after working
evenings and having a nice glass of wine and a cigar! There was just
the tiniest whisperings of the Nicodemon, but it’s still there, always
will be.
The point of my rambling is just to remind you we’re in this for
the long haul, and this is just a bump. We’ve all struggled to greater
or lesser degrees, but in the long run a minor relapse is not worth
beating yourself up over. I feel bad for smoking Cuban cigars and you
feel bad for smoking a couple of cigarettes, but a year from now I’m
sure this will just be a scary reminder.

Two years, four months, three weeks, six days, 22 hours, 48 minutes
and 37 seconds. 17599 cigarettes not smoked, saving $6,599.31. Life
saved: 8 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours, 35 minutes.

On May 17, 3:21*pm, rickh <harrison6...@rogers.com> wrote:
> On May 16, 8:20*am, "Becky" <sobern2...@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > I really wish I had had access to a computer before i fucked up Sadly,like
> > so many of my slips, I was at work where I dont have access to a computer.I
> > let my feelings get the best of me. It doenst help that there was a packof
> > cigs someone left in a locker and forgot about. those were preying on my
> > mind and so *I grabbed them and smoked a couple.
> > *becky"Inky" <Ink...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> ><snip>
>
> FWIW, I also recently faced relapse challenges. I went to Cuba, and I
> resisted the whole time I was there, but broke down and bought a box
> of cigars at the duty free on the way home. Long story short, I smoked
> them, 1 a day and the last one was yesterday. Well, you don’t actually
> inhale with cigars, the enjoyment comes from the holding the smoke in
> your mouth, and the flavors, taste and smell it generates. Anyway I’m
> glad there gone and feel like I was flirting with danger big time,
> because I was starting to look forward to coming home after working
> evenings and having a nice glass of wine and a cigar! There was just
> the tiniest whisperings of the Nicodemon, but it’s still there, always
> will be.
> * *The point of my rambling is just to remind you we’re in this for
> the long haul, and this is just a bump. We’ve all struggled to greater
> or lesser degrees, but in the long run a minor relapse is not worth
> beating yourself up over. I feel bad for smoking Cuban cigars and you
> feel bad for smoking a couple of cigarettes, but a year from now I’m
> sure this will just be a scary reminder.
>
> Two years, four months, three weeks, six days, 22 hours, 48 minutes
> and 37 seconds. 17599 cigarettes not smoked, saving $6,599.31. Life
> saved: 8 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours, 35 minutes.

Extremely scary, I hope you don't play down the signifigance of those
cigars in your own mind.

On 16 mei, 14:20, "Becky" <sobern2...@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
> I really wish I had had access to a computer before i fucked up Sadly,like
> so many of my slips, I was at work where I dont have access to a computer.I
> let my feelings get the best of me. It doenst help that there was a pack of
> cigs someone left in a locker and forgot about. those were preying on my
> mind and so I grabbed them and smoked a couple.

That just plain sux.. Finding cigs would even be challenging to me
after 10 months.. Even empty, discarted packs play on my mind.. "just
have a look, maybe there's 1 left". Ahh shoot! Imagine sweaty work
clothes, stinky shoes and a grease stained apron ontop of them.
Anything to make them less appealing and flush them..

You know you can do this, right? Look at all the faces in the photo
gallery, they all could, and so can you! You _are_ worth it, you know!

Becky wrote:
> Would you like me to just not come back here,Rob? I can arrange that if yu
> like
> Becky
>
> "Billy Bob F." <billybobf@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8d7699b3-cbac-4bae-898e-dc21d75f9aef@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> Becky wrote:
>> nothing more to say
>
> That's BS and you know it. There's plenty to say. If you're to be a
> part of this "community", it would help to hear your thoughts on what
> caused you to blow a one week quit without checking in, posting a
> "Help, this sucks" or anything. Just "I Fucked Up. Starting Over". I
> know I've probably been guilty of the same thing, but you seem to be
> the queen of failed quits.
>
> As soon as I saw the subject, I knew exactly who started the thread.
> You seem to be able to get through the first week and then, without
> warning, post something like this or simply disappear.
>
> I'm going on a week of vacation at the beach on Sunday. Most of that
> week will be by myself and it has been the source of failed quits in
> the past. I was wondering this morning on the way to work how I would
> best manage the first part of the week without relapsing. But you
> know what, Becky? You've just given me the perfect motivation to
> remain smokefree. Thanks.
>
>> 2 hours, 41 minutes and 21 seconds. 5 cigarettes not smoked, saving $0.50.
>> Life saved: 25 minutes.
>>
>> Becky
>> disgusted
>
> Me too.
> Rob
>
>
No, Becky, I think Rob's point was don't just tell yourself "I fucked
up", but actually take the time to sit down and figure out WHY you
failed. It's not enough to just say "I'm going to quit". You
ABSOLUTELY MUST examine the psychological issues that keep you smoking.
If you don't, you will continue to be a serial quitter.

Use this group to "talk out loud" to yourself about the who, what, when,
where, and why of your smoking habits and your failures. If you can
figure out WHY you are failing, then you can change it. But it takes
EFFORT. You can't just say "I failed, now I'm going to start again" and
then just continue to do the same things over and over again. You will
never succeed that way.

Cindy
Smobriety comes to: 1Y 4M 1W 3D 0H Mns $-Saved to date: $1955.25
Cigs not smoked: 9900

Great post, Rob.

ep oooooooof

"Billy Bob F." <billybobf@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Becky wondered:
>> Would you like me to just not come back here,Rob?
>
> No. Actually, I'd like Burner Fan/TheFleece to just not come back
> here :-)
>
> Becky, of all the people who participate in this group, there is
> nobody else I would like to see succeed more than you. I mean that.
> But it's extremely frustrating offering support to someone who doesn't
> seem to want to quit smoking. I'm sure that people have felt the same
> about me. I just checked and I've been posting on this newsgroup for
> the past thirteen years or so (off and on), so I am obviously somewhat
> guilty of the same behaviour.
>
> I don't know your circumstances, so I can't say for sure why, with
> patches and Zyban you couldn't make it through eight days without
> smoking. That's the purpose of my original post--not to beat you up.
> I was just wondering what was going through your head at the time.
> That's all. I wanted for you to share it with the group.
>
> It's good that you've quit again. Let me offer some suggestions for
> the next time you find yourself in the same situation. Most of these
> are not original, but then quitting smoking isn't exactly cutting edge
> science.
>
> 1. Call a friend.
> 2. Run up and down a couple of flights of stairs. Gasping for breath
> is an excellent reminder of why you're quitting.
> 3. Don't bum a cigarette.
> a) If you're going to smoke, go and buy your own.
> b) Don't buy the pack where you're having the crave. Do the guilt
> walk/drive to get them.
> c) Once you buy the pack, take out one cigarette (that's all you want
> anyway, isn't it?). Throw the rest away.
> 4. Post to the group if at home.
> 5. If at work, simply vow to not smoke today. Regardless of whether
> you smoke or not, the urge will go away--particularly with Zyban and
> patches. If this seems too hard, delay it by 15 minutes. If you can
> delay smoking, the urge will pass.
> 6. Write out a list of reasons why you're quitting. Keep it with
> you.
> 7. Take a few very deep breaths. Then hold one for as long as you
> can comfortably do so. Repeat once more.
>
> Best wishes...really.
> Rob