I am TIRED!

YES, TIRED, TIRED, TIRED an tired of all THIS! Please save your time and
energy, it is lost with me.
When I smoke I NEED to give up, when on a quit, all goes well while taking
something to numb my brain, and as soon as I slow down with them, ALL my
shitty past and present life come rushing to make me so miserable, the pit
of my stomach seems
to be closed by a wrench, I want to cry and don't want to. I can't talk to
anyone about it, no one, and now it's time to save the money that I used to
spend to see some counsellor or whatever.
I've done so much for others, what I get is shit, in different kind of
degree. At my age there is not hope to change!

Please don't tell me that a cigarette would not help. It has helped many a
times, too many!

maria

mariel2 wrote:
> YES, TIRED, TIRED, TIRED an tired of all THIS! Please save your time and
> energy, it is lost with me.
> When I smoke I NEED to give up, when on a quit, all goes well while taking
> something to numb my brain, and as soon as I slow down with them, ALL my
> shitty past and present life come rushing to make me so miserable, the pit
> of my stomach seems
> to be closed by a wrench, I want to cry and don't want to. I can't talk to
> anyone about it, no one, and now it's time to save the money that I used to
> spend to see some counsellor or whatever.
> I've done so much for others, what I get is shit, in different kind of
> degree. At my age there is not hope to change!
>
> Please don't tell me that a cigarette would not help. It has helped many a
> times, too many!
>
> maria
>
>
>

((((((Maria)))))

See a counselor ... whatever it is, it will pass. You're at 6 weeks
into your quit -- take pride!

Big Hugs,
Marvin

--
I don't smoke. I smell like bread. Life is Good.

On Wed, 21 May 2008 14:28:51 +0100, "mariel2" <mariel2@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

>YES, TIRED, TIRED, TIRED an tired of all THIS! Please save your time and
>energy, it is lost with me.
>When I smoke I NEED to give up, when on a quit, all goes well while taking
>something to numb my brain, and as soon as I slow down with them, ALL my
>shitty past and present life come rushing to make me so miserable, the pit
>of my stomach seems
>to be closed by a wrench, I want to cry and don't want to. I can't talk to
>anyone about it, no one, and now it's time to save the money that I used to
>spend to see some counsellor or whatever.
>I've done so much for others, what I get is shit, in different kind of
>degree. At my age there is not hope to change!
>
>Please don't tell me that a cigarette would not help. It has helped many a
>times, too many!
>
>maria
>
>
Hi Maria,

I am 70. I started smoking around age 13. I have been quit for over
three years. I used smoking to escape and dodge resposibilities all of
my life. Once I got through the craving all of that unresolved stuff
came crashing down in me. This group of wonderful people saved my
quit and my life.
It is so very worth it Maria.
Hang in there. Stay with us. It does get better.

Fred


"Mend your ways (don't smoke), encourage one another,
agree with one another, live in peace, and the God
of love and peace will be with you."
. . .2nd Epistle of St. Paul to the Corinthians

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"mariel2" <mariel2@ntlworld.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
psVYj.47453$4N1.22971@newsfe17.ams2...
> YES, TIRED, TIRED, TIRED an tired of all THIS! Please save your time and
> energy, it is lost with me.
> When I smoke I NEED to give up, when on a quit, all goes well while taking
> something to numb my brain, and as soon as I slow down with them, ALL my
> shitty past and present life come rushing to make me so miserable, the pit
> of my stomach seems
> to be closed by a wrench, I want to cry and don't want to. I can't talk to
> anyone about it, no one, and now it's time to save the money that I used
> to spend to see some counsellor or whatever.
> I've done so much for others, what I get is shit, in different kind of
> degree. At my age there is not hope to change!
>
> Please don't tell me that a cigarette would not help. It has helped many a
> times, too many!
>
> maria
>
>
Hang on tight Maria, it gets easier with time until there comes a day when
you actually forget about smoking. You're never too old to change. This is a
great opportunity to come to terms with all the crap you've been repressing.
You're right, spend money on counselling.
all the best,
Katie
>

On May 21, 11:41*am, Sparky <inva...@example.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 21 May 2008 14:28:51 +0100, "mariel2" <mari...@ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >YES, TIRED, TIRED, TIRED an tired of all THIS! Please save your time and
> >energy, it is lost with me.
> >When I smoke I NEED to give up, when on a quit, all goes well while taking
> >something to numb my brain, and as soon as I slow down with them, ALL my
> >shitty past and present life come rushing to make me so miserable, the pit
> >of my stomach seems
> >to be closed by a wrench, I want to cry and don't want to. I can't talk to
> >anyone about it, no one, and now it's time to save the money that I used to
> >spend to see some counsellor or whatever.
> >I've done so much for others, what I get is shit, in different kind of
> >degree. At my age there is not hope to change!
>
> >Please don't tell me that a cigarette would not help. It has helped many a
> >times, too many!
>
> >maria
>
> Hi Maria,
>
> I am 70. *I started smoking around age 13. I have been quit for over
> three years. I used smoking to escape and dodge resposibilities all of
> my life. Once I got through the craving all of that unresolved stuff
> came crashing down in me. *This group of wonderful people saved my
> quit and my life.
> It is so very worth it Maria.
> Hang in there. *Stay with us. It does get better.
>
> Fred
>
> "Mend your ways (don't smoke), encourage one another,
> agree with one another, live in peace, and the God
> of love and peace will be with you."
> *. . .2nd Epistle of St. Paul to the Corinthians
>
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> * * * * * * * *http://www.usenet.com

I'll doubley endorse what Fred said too -- once you quit you toss away
possibly the worst but most accessible 'coping' mechanism you have --
which in reality is just walking away, taking a break, having a
'breather' ... but we can still do that without the cigarettes. I
used to have a book by the back door in the summer and would just sit
out back and read for 10 minutes (funny ... I just remembered this
too ... almost 4 years).

We're here for you Maria!

Hugs Again,
Marvin

Maria! DO NOT GIVE UP AND SMOKE! Smoking only stuffs your feelings
and solves nothing. For many, if not all of us, we medicate ourselves
with sickerettes whenever we have a problem we have to face and feel
that we can not solve it without smoking. To feel our feelings really
is strange at first and it's easy to want to run back to the 'safety'
of smoking but that is *not* a solution. Do see a counselor and
consider taking some sort of anti-depressant for the time being.
Smoking artificially stimulates us and when we get smober this is gone
and it's easy to fall into depression. A good anti-depressant can
make quite a difference for the period and certainly is a much better
option than smoking.

Hang Tuff
Don't Puff

You are doing well and you CAN do this!

FlatironMike
One year, three months, one week, three days, 13 hours, 37 minutes and
5 seconds. 9311 cigarettes not smoked, saving $2,793.15. Life saved: 4
weeks, 4 days, 7 hours, 55 minutes.

mariel2@ntlworld.com wrote:

> YES, TIRED, TIRED, TIRED an tired of all THIS! Please save your time and

.....
That's quite enough of that kind of talk, my good woman!
Don't you know that every one of those in this group are secretly
in love with these enticing little white paper tubes? Don't you
realize, every one in here desperately wants to put one in his/her
mouth and put a flame to it, and breathe in the smoke?
It's a fight we all have to make, every morning, and by God it's a
horribly hard battle but most of us win it.
I myself do it by visualizing the addiction as a fiendish demon, a really
terrifying creature seven feet tall strong enough to grab me and hold me
helpless in its claws.
Well, with the e aid of the people in this group, I have reduced the
beast to a pathetic little chap about two feet high and weak as a
kitten!
You say "at my age" - listen, I succeed in kicking the 48 year old
addiction at age 69!
I can do it, you can bloody well do it. So come on, go just one day
without breathing in poisonous smoke and then do it again tomorrow, it's
not that hard if you really put your mind to it.
And post in here, as much as you need to, and find things to do that
occupy your mind and distract you from thinking of the deadly white
tubes.
Because they really are deadly as a rattlesnake bite or a dose of
strychnine, they just take abit longer.
As someone has already told you, do you really want to end up with a
plastic pipe clipped to your nose so you can keep on living?
The day my breathing went haywire - April 1st - my GP ordered a
supplier to install an oxygen bottle in this house, and I was shown
how to use it and fit the plastic tube to my nose - it was long enough
to allow me to go into each room.
Miraculously, my breathing improved quickly and the oxygen level in my
blood was satisfactory withing three days - I had stopped smoking on the
day of my breathing problem - so I was able to tell the
supplier to take the oxygen things away.
But it gave me an idea of how life would be if I ever started breathing
in foul smoke forty times a day again. Each time I feel the need to
smoke, I call to mind that plastic tube.
You want to end up with emphysema? You want to be told you got lung
cancer? You really want to cough up horrid lumps of some nasty goo
several times a day every day?
Think about it....
Sincerely,
--
Ian

On May 21, 9:28*am, "mariel2" <mari...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> YES, TIRED, TIRED, TIRED an tired of all THIS! Please save your time and
> energy, it is lost with me.
> When I smoke I NEED to give up, when on a quit, all goes well while taking
> something to numb my brain, and as soon as I slow down with them, ALL my
> shitty past and present life come rushing to make me so miserable, the pit
> of my stomach seems
> to be closed by a wrench, I want to cry and don't want to. I can't talk to
> anyone about it, no one, and now it's time to save the money that I used to
> spend to see some counsellor or whatever.
> I've done so much for others, what I get is shit, in different kind of
> degree. At my age there is not hope to change!
>
> Please don't tell me that a cigarette would not help. It has helped many a
> times, too many!
>
> maria

A counselor would be able to support you in deciding what you need, a
non-smoking aid or other medication, Do not take the posts here as
medical advice. See a professional. All best, Stephanie

On May 21, 8:28*am, "mariel2" <mari...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> YES, TIRED, TIRED, TIRED an tired of all THIS! Please save your time and
> energy, it is lost with me.
> When I smoke I NEED to give up, when on a quit, all goes well while taking
> something to numb my brain, and as soon as I slow down with them, ALL my
> shitty past and present life come rushing to make me so miserable, the pit
> of my stomach seems
> to be closed by a wrench, I want to cry and don't want to. I can't talk to
> anyone about it, no one, and now it's time to save the money that I used to
> spend to see some counsellor or whatever.
> I've done so much for others, what I get is shit, in different kind of
> degree. At my age there is not hope to change!
>
> Please don't tell me that a cigarette would not help. It has helped many a
> times, too many!
>
> maria

Nope.... cigarettes have never helped.
If they had, why are you still at this point.

Here is the problem
"ALL my shitty past and present life come rushing to make me so
miserable, the pit
of my stomach seems to be closed by a wrench, I want to cry and don't
want to. "

How in the world could smoking cigarettes be the solution to that??

Pray for guidance in finding a better solution.
I will pray with you.

"Sparky" <invalid@example.com> wrote in message
news:dcg834h624r7o71n1oi7bqod7utklq5hgl@4ax.com...
> Hi Maria,
>
> I am 70. I started smoking around age 13. I have been quit for over
> three years. I used smoking to escape and dodge resposibilities all of
> my life. Once I got through the craving all of that unresolved stuff
> came crashing down in me. This group of wonderful people saved my
> quit and my life.
> It is so very worth it Maria.
> Hang in there. Stay with us. It does get better.
>
> Fred
>
>
> "Mend your ways (don't smoke), encourage one another,
> agree with one another, live in peace, and the God
> of love and peace will be with you."
> . . .2nd Epistle of St. Paul to the Corinthians

Fred has said it very well, Maria. And every single quitter here who has
ever relapsed can tell you that, contrary to your assertion, smoking does
not help anything. Taking a break, giving yourself a treat, doing some
breathing, changing your activities -- those do help, and can all be done
without smoking. If you smoke to try to help address a problem, you have
two problems instead of one.

My best recommendation would be to go get yourself a hot fudge sundae.
Right now. Somebody here told me to do that in my early days of quitting,
when I was going through a spell like yours. I took her advice, and it was
quite effective.

Talk to us.

I have PTSD. I know plenty about how it all comes crashing down sometimes.
Smoking won't ease the impact. It might distract you. It might comfort
you. For about a minute. But you're an intelligent person, and you can
think of something to do to distract yourself or comfort yourself. For more
than a minute. And when you learn how to do that, then you've learned
something really, really fine, which will enhance your whole life.

ep oooooooof

sure the drugs in your cigarettes act like a UPPER/DOWNER and sometimes that
is just what is needed, or so you think.
HOWEVER the delivery system is going to kill you!









"mariel2" <mariel2@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
newssVYj.47453$4N1.22971@newsfe17.ams2...
> YES, TIRED, TIRED, TIRED an tired of all THIS! Please save your time and
> energy, it is lost with me.
> When I smoke I NEED to give up, when on a quit, all goes well while taking
> something to numb my brain, and as soon as I slow down with them, ALL my
> shitty past and present life come rushing to make me so miserable, the pit
> of my stomach seems
> to be closed by a wrench, I want to cry and don't want to. I can't talk to
> anyone about it, no one, and now it's time to save the money that I used
> to spend to see some counsellor or whatever.
> I've done so much for others, what I get is shit, in different kind of
> degree. At my age there is not hope to change!
>
> Please don't tell me that a cigarette would not help. It has helped many a
> times, too many!
>
> maria
>
>
>

On Wed, 21 May 2008 14:28:51 +0100, "mariel2" <mariel2@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

>YES, TIRED, TIRED, TIRED an tired of all THIS! Please save your time and
>energy, it is lost with me.
>When I smoke I NEED to give up, when on a quit, all goes well while taking
>something to numb my brain, and as soon as I slow down with them, ALL my
>shitty past and present life come rushing to make me so miserable, the pit
>of my stomach seems
>to be closed by a wrench, I want to cry and don't want to. I can't talk to
>anyone about it, no one, and now it's time to save the money that I used to
>spend to see some counsellor or whatever.
>I've done so much for others, what I get is shit, in different kind of
>degree. At my age there is not hope to change!
>
>Please don't tell me that a cigarette would not help. It has helped many a
>times, too many!
>
>maria

Everyone else said it better than I can. All I can say is don't give
up and don't give in. If you do you will only feel worse.
Sue

>
>

Hey Maria,
Talking about doing things for others and getting shit back, I've been
there. The shitty past? I had it. The present? Still shitty and I'm
living in it. I know I will die one day, but I'll be damned if I will let
the nicotine control the rest of my life and then kill me. I did that for a
long time, but no more.
You know what? just be good to yourself, for once! We all love you. We
all are pulling for you. We all are behind you...always


--
AZ
"mariel2" <mariel2@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
newssVYj.47453$4N1.22971@newsfe17.ams2...
> YES, TIRED, TIRED, TIRED an tired of all THIS! Please save your time and
> energy, it is lost with me.
> When I smoke I NEED to give up, when on a quit, all goes well while taking
> something to numb my brain, and as soon as I slow down with them, ALL my
> shitty past and present life come rushing to make me so miserable, the pit
> of my stomach seems
> to be closed by a wrench, I want to cry and don't want to. I can't talk to
> anyone about it, no one, and now it's time to save the money that I used
> to spend to see some counsellor or whatever.
> I've done so much for others, what I get is shit, in different kind of
> degree. At my age there is not hope to change!
>
> Please don't tell me that a cigarette would not help. It has helped many a
> times, too many!
>
> maria
>
>
>

On May 21, 8:48*pm, "AZ" <zikra.nos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hey Maria,
> Talking about doing things for others and getting shit back, I've been
> there. *The shitty past? *I had it. *The present? *Still shitty and I'm
> living in it. *I know I will die one day, but I'll be damned if I will let
> the nicotine control the rest of my life and then kill me. *I did that for a
> long time, but no more.
> You know what? *just be good to yourself, for once! *We all love you. *We
> all are pulling for you. *We all are behind you...always
>
> --
> AZ"mariel2" <mari...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>

Yes, we are. And, there's a bunch of us here. That's a whole lotta
love.

Annette

On Wed, 21 May 2008 10:48:40 +0000 (UTC), sum1@flashy.nut (Ian) wrote:

>The day my breathing went haywire - April 1st - my GP ordered a
>supplier to install an oxygen bottle in this house, and I was shown
>how to use it and fit the plastic tube to my nose - it was long enough
>to allow me to go into each room.
>Miraculously, my breathing improved quickly and the oxygen level in my
>blood was satisfactory withing three days - I had stopped smoking on the
>day of my breathing problem - so I was able to tell the
>supplier to take the oxygen things away.

You are very fortunate. I have a friend in the Medical Gas business.
Getting a call to come get the tank usually sucks,... because it
means...You Know.
It's NOT true that they get a kickback from the local funeral parlour
to size up your measurements--------But...