Interesting

Yesterday doing a 12 Hour shift as a volunteer bush firefighter it intriged
me that the smokers would light up cigarettes even whilst in the cloud of
smoke from the bushfire.

Barry
Two years, four months, four weeks, two days, 4 hours, 36 minutes and 40
seconds. 26465 cigarettes not smoked, saving $12,312.45. Life saved: 13
weeks, 21 hours, 25 minutes.
also for those wondering how long one can stay on NRT
barry has Quit NRT for 1 year, 9 months, 2 days, 1 hour, 37 minutes, 29
seconds, not smoking 9601 cigarettes, saving $ 3017.46, and saving 1m 3d 8h
5m of life.
So with a bit of rithmatic you can see I chewed and lozenged and patched for
a total of around 8 Months or until I was ready to walk without the
crutches. I found that this lessened the chances of a fall

On Aug 15, 7:09 am, "barry" <bam...@bigpond.net,au> wrote:
> Yesterday doing a 12 Hour shift as a volunteer bush firefighter it intriged
> me that the smokers would light up cigarettes even whilst in the cloud of
> smoke from the bushfire.
>
> Barry
> Two years, four months, four weeks, two days, 4 hours, 36 minutes and 40
> seconds. 26465 cigarettes not smoked, saving $12,312.45. Life saved: 13
> weeks, 21 hours, 25 minutes.
> also for those wondering how long one can stay on NRT
> barry has Quit NRT for 1 year, 9 months, 2 days, 1 hour, 37 minutes, 29
> seconds, not smoking 9601 cigarettes, saving $ 3017.46, and saving 1m 3d 8h
> 5m of life.
> So with a bit of rithmatic you can see I chewed and lozenged and patched for
> a total of around 8 Months or until I was ready to walk without the
> crutches. I found that this lessened the chances of a fall

I'm one day away from my last 21mg patch. 6 weeks worth. Tommorow I
step down to 14mg's. I haven't touched a cig.
So, 2 more weeks on the 14's, then 2 more weeks on the 7's and I'm
done.
I'm dealing with the rashes by rubbing in a ton of cortisone cream
when it itches or burns.
I'm wondering if you can share the stepdown process. Any withdrawal
symptoms, etc, I'm looking forward to the stepdown. I can't consider
myself free of nicotine until I am off the patches and no longer
dependant on the nicoshit. Thanks in advance.
Steve

On Aug 15, 7:09 am, "barry" <bam...@bigpond.net,au> wrote:
> Yesterday doing a 12 Hour shift as a volunteer bush firefighter it intriged
> me that the smokers would light up cigarettes even whilst in the cloud of
> smoke from the bushfire.
>
> Barry
> Two years, four months, four weeks, two days, 4 hours, 36 minutes and 40
> seconds. 26465 cigarettes not smoked, saving $12,312.45. Life saved: 13
> weeks, 21 hours, 25 minutes.
> also for those wondering how long one can stay on NRT
> barry has Quit NRT for 1 year, 9 months, 2 days, 1 hour, 37 minutes, 29
> seconds, not smoking 9601 cigarettes, saving $ 3017.46, and saving 1m 3d 8h
> 5m of life.
> So with a bit of rithmatic you can see I chewed and lozenged and patched for
> a total of around 8 Months or until I was ready to walk without the
> crutches. I found that this lessened the chances of a fall

I'm one day away from my last 21mg patch. 6 weeks worth. Tommorow I
step down to 14mg's. I haven't touched a cig.
So, 2 more weeks on the 14's, then 2 more weeks on the 7's and I'm
done.
I'm dealing with the rashes by rubbing in a ton of cortisone cream
when it itches or burns.
I'm wondering if you can share the stepdown process. Any withdrawal
symptoms, etc, I'm looking forward to the stepdown. I can't consider
myself free of nicotine until I am off the patches and no longer
dependant on the nicoshit. Thanks in advance.
Steve

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:52:47 -0700, steve-o <igt123@optonline.net>
wrote:

>On Aug 15, 7:09 am, "barry" <bam...@bigpond.net,au> wrote:
>> Yesterday doing a 12 Hour shift as a volunteer bush firefighter it intriged
>> me that the smokers would light up cigarettes even whilst in the cloud of
>> smoke from the bushfire.
>>
>> Barry
>> Two years, four months, four weeks, two days, 4 hours, 36 minutes and 40
>> seconds. 26465 cigarettes not smoked, saving $12,312.45. Life saved: 13
>> weeks, 21 hours, 25 minutes.
>> also for those wondering how long one can stay on NRT
>> barry has Quit NRT for 1 year, 9 months, 2 days, 1 hour, 37 minutes, 29
>> seconds, not smoking 9601 cigarettes, saving $ 3017.46, and saving 1m 3d 8h
>> 5m of life.
>> So with a bit of rithmatic you can see I chewed and lozenged and patched for
>> a total of around 8 Months or until I was ready to walk without the
>> crutches. I found that this lessened the chances of a fall
>
>I'm one day away from my last 21mg patch. 6 weeks worth. Tommorow I
>step down to 14mg's. I haven't touched a cig.
>So, 2 more weeks on the 14's, then 2 more weeks on the 7's and I'm
>done.
>I'm dealing with the rashes by rubbing in a ton of cortisone cream
>when it itches or burns.
>I'm wondering if you can share the stepdown process. Any withdrawal
>symptoms, etc, I'm looking forward to the stepdown. I can't consider
>myself free of nicotine until I am off the patches and no longer
>dependant on the nicoshit. Thanks in advance.
>Steve

You asked Barry, but I'm gonna throw in my 2 cents here. Now,
everyone is different so just because the step down was easy for me
doesn't mean it will be easy for you. However, I didn't notice any
difference after each step down and none when the patches were done. I
followed the regimen as instructed and it was smooth as glass. I hope
things go as well for you.
Sue

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:52:47 -0700, steve-o <igt123@optonline.net>
wrote:

>On Aug 15, 7:09 am, "barry" <bam...@bigpond.net,au> wrote:
>> Yesterday doing a 12 Hour shift as a volunteer bush firefighter it intriged
>> me that the smokers would light up cigarettes even whilst in the cloud of
>> smoke from the bushfire.
>>
>> Barry
>> Two years, four months, four weeks, two days, 4 hours, 36 minutes and 40
>> seconds. 26465 cigarettes not smoked, saving $12,312.45. Life saved: 13
>> weeks, 21 hours, 25 minutes.
>> also for those wondering how long one can stay on NRT
>> barry has Quit NRT for 1 year, 9 months, 2 days, 1 hour, 37 minutes, 29
>> seconds, not smoking 9601 cigarettes, saving $ 3017.46, and saving 1m 3d 8h
>> 5m of life.
>> So with a bit of rithmatic you can see I chewed and lozenged and patched for
>> a total of around 8 Months or until I was ready to walk without the
>> crutches. I found that this lessened the chances of a fall
>
>I'm one day away from my last 21mg patch. 6 weeks worth. Tommorow I
>step down to 14mg's. I haven't touched a cig.
>So, 2 more weeks on the 14's, then 2 more weeks on the 7's and I'm
>done.
>I'm dealing with the rashes by rubbing in a ton of cortisone cream
>when it itches or burns.
>I'm wondering if you can share the stepdown process. Any withdrawal
>symptoms, etc, I'm looking forward to the stepdown. I can't consider
>myself free of nicotine until I am off the patches and no longer
>dependant on the nicoshit. Thanks in advance.
>Steve

You asked Barry, but I'm gonna throw in my 2 cents here. Now,
everyone is different so just because the step down was easy for me
doesn't mean it will be easy for you. However, I didn't notice any
difference after each step down and none when the patches were done. I
followed the regimen as instructed and it was smooth as glass. I hope
things go as well for you.
Sue

Hi steve-o,

I wish I could say my experience was as easy as Sue's but
unfortunately it wasn't. As long as you know and expect that you might
be in for a rough couple of days, though, you will be fine. It
actually turned out not to be as bad as I was expecting it to be --
the step down from Step 1 to Step 2, that is.

I chewed lots of gum, drank lots of water and in general was a big fat
bitch to anyone I encountered. But I got through it. And you will
too!

Incidentally, I got off the patch when it came time for Step 3 and
found it wasn't nearly as much of a struggle for me when I got all the
nicotine out of my system. I mention that for your consideration but
in no way am I recommending you do anything except what's best for
you.

Best of luck. Please let me know how it goes, I'll be thinking of you.


Ashley

No smoking for 1 Month, 3 Weeks, 1 Day, 8 hours, 10 minutes and 33
seconds. I have saved $150.01 by not smoking 800 cigarettes and I have
an additional 2 Days, 18 hours and 40 minutes of my life to show for
it.

Hi steve-o,

I wish I could say my experience was as easy as Sue's but
unfortunately it wasn't. As long as you know and expect that you might
be in for a rough couple of days, though, you will be fine. It
actually turned out not to be as bad as I was expecting it to be --
the step down from Step 1 to Step 2, that is.

I chewed lots of gum, drank lots of water and in general was a big fat
bitch to anyone I encountered. But I got through it. And you will
too!

Incidentally, I got off the patch when it came time for Step 3 and
found it wasn't nearly as much of a struggle for me when I got all the
nicotine out of my system. I mention that for your consideration but
in no way am I recommending you do anything except what's best for
you.

Best of luck. Please let me know how it goes, I'll be thinking of you.


Ashley

No smoking for 1 Month, 3 Weeks, 1 Day, 8 hours, 10 minutes and 33
seconds. I have saved $150.01 by not smoking 800 cigarettes and I have
an additional 2 Days, 18 hours and 40 minutes of my life to show for
it.

We have a volunteer fire dept here and every time the crew
gets in their stations on the truck they light up as the go down
the road. I think the excitement depletes brain chemicals that
the brain relies on nicotene for. I sure remember being anxious
or excited and just had to have a cigarette. Dumb, real dumb.

jacks, VOF


"barry" <> wrote in message
> Yesterday doing a 12 Hour shift as a volunteer bush firefighter it
> intriged me that the smokers would light up cigarettes even whilst in the
> cloud of smoke from the bushfire.
>
> Barry
> Two years, four months, four weeks, two days, 4 hours, 36 minutes and 40
> seconds. 26465 cigarettes not smoked, saving $12,312.45. Life saved: 13
> weeks, 21 hours, 25 minutes.
> also for those wondering how long one can stay on NRT
> barry has Quit NRT for 1 year, 9 months, 2 days, 1 hour, 37 minutes, 29
> seconds, not smoking 9601 cigarettes, saving $ 3017.46, and saving 1m 3d
> 8h 5m of life.
> So with a bit of rithmatic you can see I chewed and lozenged and patched
> for a total of around 8 Months or until I was ready to walk without the
> crutches. I found that this lessened the chances of a fall
>

We have a volunteer fire dept here and every time the crew
gets in their stations on the truck they light up as the go down
the road. I think the excitement depletes brain chemicals that
the brain relies on nicotene for. I sure remember being anxious
or excited and just had to have a cigarette. Dumb, real dumb.

jacks, VOF


"barry" <> wrote in message
> Yesterday doing a 12 Hour shift as a volunteer bush firefighter it
> intriged me that the smokers would light up cigarettes even whilst in the
> cloud of smoke from the bushfire.
>
> Barry
> Two years, four months, four weeks, two days, 4 hours, 36 minutes and 40
> seconds. 26465 cigarettes not smoked, saving $12,312.45. Life saved: 13
> weeks, 21 hours, 25 minutes.
> also for those wondering how long one can stay on NRT
> barry has Quit NRT for 1 year, 9 months, 2 days, 1 hour, 37 minutes, 29
> seconds, not smoking 9601 cigarettes, saving $ 3017.46, and saving 1m 3d
> 8h 5m of life.
> So with a bit of rithmatic you can see I chewed and lozenged and patched
> for a total of around 8 Months or until I was ready to walk without the
> crutches. I found that this lessened the chances of a fall
>

Barry wrote:
> Yesterday doing a 12 Hour shift as a volunteer bush firefighter it intriged
> me that the smokers would light up cigarettes even whilst in the cloud of
> smoke from the bushfire.
>
> Barry
> Two years, four months, four weeks, two days, 4 hours, 36 minutes and 40
> seconds. 26465 cigarettes not smoked, saving $12,312.45. Life saved: 13
> weeks, 21 hours, 25 minutes.
> also for those wondering how long one can stay on NRT
> barry has Quit NRT for 1 year, 9 months, 2 days, 1 hour, 37 minutes, 29
> seconds, not smoking 9601 cigarettes, saving $ 3017.46, and saving 1m 3d 8h
> 5m of life.
> So with a bit of rithmatic you can see I chewed and lozenged and patched for
> a total of around 8 Months or until I was ready to walk without the
> crutches. I found that this lessened the chances of a fall
>
>
Well done Barry on the long shift, bush fires are a bastard. Oddly
enough I used to enter a smoke filled building with Breathing Apparatus
on, do my bit and then after it was all over I would light up......why ?
Coz I was a grade A nicotine addict and a tosser who thought I knew it
all. Thank fuck I woke up in time (crossing fingers here)
I like you did the NRT till I was ready, (12 months on the nasal spray)
new quitters YMMV.
I wore BA the other week in the smoke house as I have to do once a
month, it was no picnic but I did it much better than I did toward the
end of my smoking career. Chucking yourself into a burning building is a
young man's game I tend to find.
Great meter you have there Barry
Regards Chris

One year, eight months, three weeks, three days, 13 hours, 39 minutes
and 46 seconds. 25262 cigarettes not smoked, saving £5,115.37. Life
saved: 12 weeks, 3 days, 17 hours, 10 minutes.

Barry wrote:
> Yesterday doing a 12 Hour shift as a volunteer bush firefighter it intriged
> me that the smokers would light up cigarettes even whilst in the cloud of
> smoke from the bushfire.
>
> Barry
> Two years, four months, four weeks, two days, 4 hours, 36 minutes and 40
> seconds. 26465 cigarettes not smoked, saving $12,312.45. Life saved: 13
> weeks, 21 hours, 25 minutes.
> also for those wondering how long one can stay on NRT
> barry has Quit NRT for 1 year, 9 months, 2 days, 1 hour, 37 minutes, 29
> seconds, not smoking 9601 cigarettes, saving $ 3017.46, and saving 1m 3d 8h
> 5m of life.
> So with a bit of rithmatic you can see I chewed and lozenged and patched for
> a total of around 8 Months or until I was ready to walk without the
> crutches. I found that this lessened the chances of a fall
>
>
Well done Barry on the long shift, bush fires are a bastard. Oddly
enough I used to enter a smoke filled building with Breathing Apparatus
on, do my bit and then after it was all over I would light up......why ?
Coz I was a grade A nicotine addict and a tosser who thought I knew it
all. Thank fuck I woke up in time (crossing fingers here)
I like you did the NRT till I was ready, (12 months on the nasal spray)
new quitters YMMV.
I wore BA the other week in the smoke house as I have to do once a
month, it was no picnic but I did it much better than I did toward the
end of my smoking career. Chucking yourself into a burning building is a
young man's game I tend to find.
Great meter you have there Barry
Regards Chris

One year, eight months, three weeks, three days, 13 hours, 39 minutes
and 46 seconds. 25262 cigarettes not smoked, saving £5,115.37. Life
saved: 12 weeks, 3 days, 17 hours, 10 minutes.

"steve-o" <igt123@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:1187185967.069246.150080@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
> On Aug 15, 7:09 am, "barry" <bam...@bigpond.net,au> wrote:
>> Yesterday doing a 12 Hour shift as a volunteer bush firefighter it
>> intriged
>> me that the smokers would light up cigarettes even whilst in the cloud of
>> smoke from the bushfire.
>>
>> Barry
>> Two years, four months, four weeks, two days, 4 hours, 36 minutes and 40
>> seconds. 26465 cigarettes not smoked, saving $12,312.45. Life saved: 13
>> weeks, 21 hours, 25 minutes.
>> also for those wondering how long one can stay on NRT
>> barry has Quit NRT for 1 year, 9 months, 2 days, 1 hour, 37 minutes, 29
>> seconds, not smoking 9601 cigarettes, saving $ 3017.46, and saving 1m 3d
>> 8h
>> 5m of life.
>> So with a bit of rithmatic you can see I chewed and lozenged and patched
>> for
>> a total of around 8 Months or until I was ready to walk without the
>> crutches. I found that this lessened the chances of a fall
>
> I'm one day away from my last 21mg patch. 6 weeks worth. Tommorow I
> step down to 14mg's. I haven't touched a cig.
> So, 2 more weeks on the 14's, then 2 more weeks on the 7's and I'm
> done.
> I'm dealing with the rashes by rubbing in a ton of cortisone cream
> when it itches or burns.
> I'm wondering if you can share the stepdown process. Any withdrawal
> symptoms, etc, I'm looking forward to the stepdown. I can't consider
> myself free of nicotine until I am off the patches and no longer
> dependant on the nicoshit. Thanks in advance.
> Steve
>

The hardest part for me was going from three packs a day of smoking to the
21 mg patch. After that, it was a relatively easy stepdown to 14 mg and
then to 7 mg. After a week or so on 7 mg, I forgot to wear it one day and
didn't even notice it. That was my signal to quit the patch.

I had a very slight rash in a couple areas. Made sure not to repeat the
same area for at least a week, per the documentation.

I understand where you're at with wanting to be nicotine-free, but it wasn't
the nicotine that would have killed me. It was the tar and the additives.

Lee
OOF

--
Hawaiian trapped in a Minnesotan's body

"steve-o" <igt123@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:1187185967.069246.150080@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
> On Aug 15, 7:09 am, "barry" <bam...@bigpond.net,au> wrote:
>> Yesterday doing a 12 Hour shift as a volunteer bush firefighter it
>> intriged
>> me that the smokers would light up cigarettes even whilst in the cloud of
>> smoke from the bushfire.
>>
>> Barry
>> Two years, four months, four weeks, two days, 4 hours, 36 minutes and 40
>> seconds. 26465 cigarettes not smoked, saving $12,312.45. Life saved: 13
>> weeks, 21 hours, 25 minutes.
>> also for those wondering how long one can stay on NRT
>> barry has Quit NRT for 1 year, 9 months, 2 days, 1 hour, 37 minutes, 29
>> seconds, not smoking 9601 cigarettes, saving $ 3017.46, and saving 1m 3d
>> 8h
>> 5m of life.
>> So with a bit of rithmatic you can see I chewed and lozenged and patched
>> for
>> a total of around 8 Months or until I was ready to walk without the
>> crutches. I found that this lessened the chances of a fall
>
> I'm one day away from my last 21mg patch. 6 weeks worth. Tommorow I
> step down to 14mg's. I haven't touched a cig.
> So, 2 more weeks on the 14's, then 2 more weeks on the 7's and I'm
> done.
> I'm dealing with the rashes by rubbing in a ton of cortisone cream
> when it itches or burns.
> I'm wondering if you can share the stepdown process. Any withdrawal
> symptoms, etc, I'm looking forward to the stepdown. I can't consider
> myself free of nicotine until I am off the patches and no longer
> dependant on the nicoshit. Thanks in advance.
> Steve
>

The hardest part for me was going from three packs a day of smoking to the
21 mg patch. After that, it was a relatively easy stepdown to 14 mg and
then to 7 mg. After a week or so on 7 mg, I forgot to wear it one day and
didn't even notice it. That was my signal to quit the patch.

I had a very slight rash in a couple areas. Made sure not to repeat the
same area for at least a week, per the documentation.

I understand where you're at with wanting to be nicotine-free, but it wasn't
the nicotine that would have killed me. It was the tar and the additives.

Lee
OOF

--
Hawaiian trapped in a Minnesotan's body

Once upon a time, "barry" <bametz@bigpond.net,au> said:

>Yesterday doing a 12 Hour shift as a volunteer bush firefighter it intriged
>me that the smokers would light up cigarettes even whilst in the cloud of
>smoke from the bushfire.

Isn't man the weirdest animal?
We had some Italian guy try to set fire to an ancinet pine wood,
directly adjacent to an urban area full of tourists with kids and and
traile camps and so on.
Thank God, it was raining the day before so the fire did not catch up
too fat, and people saw it on time.
Thank God, that the MFer was caught.
The reason he did it? His frigging tyre went flat and he was so mad
about it that he had no other choice. Fair enough.
You know when you see a really cruel criminal or child abuser or any
other scum that gets your guts brewing and you get an urge to go there
and rip his heart out?
Yup, I got it.

--
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Remove my shirt to E-mail me
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Once upon a time, "barry" <bametz@bigpond.net,au> said:

>Yesterday doing a 12 Hour shift as a volunteer bush firefighter it intriged
>me that the smokers would light up cigarettes even whilst in the cloud of
>smoke from the bushfire.

Isn't man the weirdest animal?
We had some Italian guy try to set fire to an ancinet pine wood,
directly adjacent to an urban area full of tourists with kids and and
traile camps and so on.
Thank God, it was raining the day before so the fire did not catch up
too fat, and people saw it on time.
Thank God, that the MFer was caught.
The reason he did it? His frigging tyre went flat and he was so mad
about it that he had no other choice. Fair enough.
You know when you see a really cruel criminal or child abuser or any
other scum that gets your guts brewing and you get an urge to go there
and rip his heart out?
Yup, I got it.

--
Tihomir ÷¤÷ I think, therefore I do not smoke
Remove my shirt to E-mail me
IRC chat: #nosmokers at irc.starlink.org
irc://irc.starlink.org/nosmokers

.... Hailing frequencies open, Captain.

Once upon a time, eightpans said:

>Well done Barry on the long shift, bush fires are a bastard.

I'll hook up to Chris's post because I forgot to congratulate you in
my first post. Barry, Chris, and all the other fire fighters in the
world. I really really really admire you guys.
When the going gets tough, the tough get going.

--
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Remove my shirt to E-mail me
IRC chat: #nosmokers at irc.starlink.org
irc://irc.starlink.org/nosmokers

.... Hailing frequencies open, Captain.

Once upon a time, eightpans said:

>Well done Barry on the long shift, bush fires are a bastard.

I'll hook up to Chris's post because I forgot to congratulate you in
my first post. Barry, Chris, and all the other fire fighters in the
world. I really really really admire you guys.
When the going gets tough, the tough get going.

--
Tihomir ÷¤÷ I think, therefore I do not smoke
Remove my shirt to E-mail me
IRC chat: #nosmokers at irc.starlink.org
irc://irc.starlink.org/nosmokers

.... Hailing frequencies open, Captain.