Just quit as soon as you can ....

My dad quit smoking in November 1999, he was 68 years of age at the
time. He had smoked since he was 15, he was a 40 a day plus smoker.
He
and I quit together. He succeeded - I failed a few months later
unbeknown to him - never had the bottle to tell him because we had a
pact - if you give up I'll give up ... my dad was due a heart bypass
and they had told him if he didn't quit it wouldn't work. He waited 3
years for his successful heart bypass.

The years went by and my dad got healthier and healthier or so it
appeared. He astounded the healthy heart clinic with his progress. He
even started juicing and bought him self an exercise bike, he did
10km
a day regular. Everyone was amazed how well he did and the change in
his lifestyle.


In April 2007 he tripped over a kerbstone in a supermarket carpark
and
broke his femur. They operated and the wound healed quickly but his
blood sodium level dropped and they thought it was probably due to
the
shock of the fall. He ended up in hospital for months, had all kinds
of tests and scans but the problem remained a mystery.


Over the course of the last 6 months my dad has been in and out of
hospital because of a blood/sodium level imbalance, and they also
discovered some benign tumours on his brain, he gradually
deteriorated. Today we discovered the reason why. Why it has taken so
long to find it we will never know but today he has been diagnosed
with advanced lung cancer.


Today was the hardest day of my life, my brother had to tell my dad
he
was going to die. My dad loves life, loves his family and had so much
to live for.


Scary stories have never stopped me from smoking, we all know deep
down that smoking is killing us and if that was enough surely no one
would smoke. My dad would probably have died 8 years ago had he not
quit smoking. My dad knows he would certainly have lived many years
more if he had done it sooner.


He held my hand today and he whispered to me .... at least we quit in
time to save you ......

On Oct 19, 2:26 pm, Karen <sendka...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> He held my hand today and he whispered to me .... at least we quit in
> time to save you ......

I hope he's right.
Hang around....

How very, very sad. Maybe it's time for you to quit. For your dad.
Please.
Sue

On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:26:59 -0700, Karen <sendkaren@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>My dad quit smoking in November 1999, he was 68 years of age at the
>time. He had smoked since he was 15, he was a 40 a day plus smoker.
>He
>and I quit together. He succeeded - I failed a few months later
>unbeknown to him - never had the bottle to tell him because we had a
>pact - if you give up I'll give up ... my dad was due a heart bypass
>and they had told him if he didn't quit it wouldn't work. He waited 3
>years for his successful heart bypass.
>
>The years went by and my dad got healthier and healthier or so it
>appeared. He astounded the healthy heart clinic with his progress. He
>even started juicing and bought him self an exercise bike, he did
>10km
>a day regular. Everyone was amazed how well he did and the change in
>his lifestyle.
>
>
>In April 2007 he tripped over a kerbstone in a supermarket carpark
>and
>broke his femur. They operated and the wound healed quickly but his
>blood sodium level dropped and they thought it was probably due to
>the
>shock of the fall. He ended up in hospital for months, had all kinds
>of tests and scans but the problem remained a mystery.
>
>
>Over the course of the last 6 months my dad has been in and out of
>hospital because of a blood/sodium level imbalance, and they also
>discovered some benign tumours on his brain, he gradually
>deteriorated. Today we discovered the reason why. Why it has taken so
>long to find it we will never know but today he has been diagnosed
>with advanced lung cancer.
>
>
>Today was the hardest day of my life, my brother had to tell my dad
>he
>was going to die. My dad loves life, loves his family and had so much
>to live for.
>
>
>Scary stories have never stopped me from smoking, we all know deep
>down that smoking is killing us and if that was enough surely no one
>would smoke. My dad would probably have died 8 years ago had he not
>quit smoking. My dad knows he would certainly have lived many years
>more if he had done it sooner.
>
>
>He held my hand today and he whispered to me .... at least we quit in
>time to save you ......

Karen, I am so sorry to read about your father's diagnosis, but you do
have to look at the 7+ good years he had before the accident and the
spirling downward of his health. Had he not quit when he did, he
might have gotten sicker sooner and not been able to fight it as long
as he has. Hugs to you, and as Sue said, please do quit, for yourself
and to honour your Dad.

FlatironMike
Eight months, one week, one day, 23 hours, 57 minutes and 25 seconds.
5019 cigarettes not smoked, saving $1,505.74. Life saved: 2 weeks, 3
days, 10 hours, 15 minutes.

On Oct 19, 2:26?pm, Karen <sendka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Today was the hardest day of my life, my brother had to tell my dad
> he
> was going to die. My dad loves life, loves his family and had so much
> to live for.
>
> Scary stories have never stopped me from smoking, we all know deep
> down that smoking is killing us and if that was enough surely no one
> would smoke. My dad would probably have died 8 years ago had he not
> quit smoking. My dad knows he would certainly have lived many years
> more if he had done it sooner.
>
> He held my hand today and he whispered to me .... at least we quit in
> time to save you ......


Dear Karen, in this difficult time for you and your family, please
understand that we are all here to hold your hand and do all we can to
help and guide you toward living your life to the fullest....without
letting cigarettes get in your way. Your dad sounds like a loving,
caring man. You have been fortunate to have had him so long in your
life. Make him proud of you now.

AS3 has been around for almost 15 years. Together we have helped
hundreds of smokers get free of the tobacco addiction. We can help
you too. I know that I could not have quit without this group.

Joyce
9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days

On 19 okt, 21:26, Karen <sendka...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Karen, lung cancer is one the most difficult to diagnose forms of
cancer. Most of the times, once a patient starts to show any signs,
the cancer usually already has spread. I know it isn't much of
consolance but it can take up to 10 years for lung cancer to develop.
Once it does, it goes very fast. Probably the cancer was already there
when he quit smoking and, with quitting, he defenitely extended his
life for several years. And from what I read, it were very good years
for him.

I know it is hard but it is never too late to quit. But it has to be
for you. I wish you and your family the love and strength to get
through the next months.

Hi Karen,

I'm sorry to hear about your dad, and I hope that you find the strength in
your heart to cope with this hurt.

Please pardon me for being presumptuous, and forgive me if I'm flat wrong
about this, and for being so direct, but I would like to make an
observation. Beyond the fact that you want to and should quit smoking
(which we're here to help you with) it sounds like you are carrying around a
heavy burden of guilt for, essentially, deceiving your father all these
years about you being quit. As your father continues on his journey, your
mind and emotions are going to go through the wringer, and this guilt is
going to weigh so heavily on you that it could be very destructive in your
heart. You have to deal with it up front. So, know these things: 1. The
fact that you did not remain quit has nothing whatsoever to do with the
fact that he is now sick. NOTHING. 2. The fact that you made a pact with
him and decieved him, actually worked to keep him quit and gave him a really
fantastic quality of life for the past several years. It is thus one of
those lies that, I think, God forgives. So, 3., you should forgive
yourself. 4. You should talk to him about it. He will love you and
support you, and he will not blame you for anything because there is no
blame to be had. When he passes on and if you feel like you left this
business undone, it will be very painful for you. 5. The fact that you
failed in the quit, and that you lied about it, and that your father is
sick -- all of this should have NO INFLUENCE WHATSOEVER on your ability to
quit again. The Nicodemon may whisper to you something like "well you
couldn't quit in time to save your father, so you might as well never quit."
I know this doesn't make sense (see #1), but you know the nicodemon is very
manipulative and will say anything to keep you smoking. So you just have to
realize it, and keep on quitting.

Again, I'm sorry to be so direct. My partner lost his mother a few months
ago, and I have seen what guilt and unfinished business can do to one's
emotions. I am hoping to help you avoid some of that, but it involves
facing some unpleasant realities.

My best wishes to you and to your father for peace and healing. We're here
to help.

Best,

Jaime

I have achieved nine months, four days, 10 hours, 10 minutes and 11 seconds,
of smoke-free living (and, with it, rather aggressive driving). This amounts
to 8322 cigarettes not smoked, saving $1,976.35, and adding 4 weeks, 21
hours, 30 minutes to my fabulous life.



"Karen" <sendkaren@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1192822019.665893.95110@i38g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
> My dad quit smoking in November 1999, he was 68 years of age at the
> time. He had smoked since he was 15, he was a 40 a day plus smoker.
> He
> and I quit together. He succeeded - I failed a few months later
> unbeknown to him - never had the bottle to tell him because we had a
> pact - if you give up I'll give up ... my dad was due a heart bypass
> and they had told him if he didn't quit it wouldn't work. He waited 3
> years for his successful heart bypass.
>
> The years went by and my dad got healthier and healthier or so it
> appeared. He astounded the healthy heart clinic with his progress. He
> even started juicing and bought him self an exercise bike, he did
> 10km
> a day regular. Everyone was amazed how well he did and the change in
> his lifestyle.
>
>
> In April 2007 he tripped over a kerbstone in a supermarket carpark
> and
> broke his femur. They operated and the wound healed quickly but his
> blood sodium level dropped and they thought it was probably due to
> the
> shock of the fall. He ended up in hospital for months, had all kinds
> of tests and scans but the problem remained a mystery.
>
>
> Over the course of the last 6 months my dad has been in and out of
> hospital because of a blood/sodium level imbalance, and they also
> discovered some benign tumours on his brain, he gradually
> deteriorated. Today we discovered the reason why. Why it has taken so
> long to find it we will never know but today he has been diagnosed
> with advanced lung cancer.
>
>
> Today was the hardest day of my life, my brother had to tell my dad
> he
> was going to die. My dad loves life, loves his family and had so much
> to live for.
>
>
> Scary stories have never stopped me from smoking, we all know deep
> down that smoking is killing us and if that was enough surely no one
> would smoke. My dad would probably have died 8 years ago had he not
> quit smoking. My dad knows he would certainly have lived many years
> more if he had done it sooner.
>
>
> He held my hand today and he whispered to me .... at least we quit in
> time to save you ......
>

(((((((((Karen and family))))))))
I wish I had the words to tell you everything will be ok. Just be with
your dad with the time he has left. this is a hard road to go down with the
family we love.your dad will need you to be strong.
in the near furture is the time to make sure all arrangments are done for
your dad. he will probably want to do them all himself just be there for
him. ( my dad has his obit all written out. talk about freaky reading that
while he is standing there)
--
Lynn VOF Leaper
"Everyone seems normal until you get to know them."




"Karen" <sendkaren@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1192822019.665893.95110@i38g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
> My dad quit smoking in November 1999, he was 68 years of age at the
> time. He had smoked since he was 15, he was a 40 a day plus smoker.
> He
> and I quit together. He succeeded - I failed a few months later
> unbeknown to him - never had the bottle to tell him because we had a
> pact - if you give up I'll give up ... my dad was due a heart bypass
> and they had told him if he didn't quit it wouldn't work. He waited 3
> years for his successful heart bypass.
>
> The years went by and my dad got healthier and healthier or so it
> appeared. He astounded the healthy heart clinic with his progress. He
> even started juicing and bought him self an exercise bike, he did
> 10km
> a day regular. Everyone was amazed how well he did and the change in
> his lifestyle.
>
>
> In April 2007 he tripped over a kerbstone in a supermarket carpark
> and
> broke his femur. They operated and the wound healed quickly but his
> blood sodium level dropped and they thought it was probably due to
> the
> shock of the fall. He ended up in hospital for months, had all kinds
> of tests and scans but the problem remained a mystery.
>
>
> Over the course of the last 6 months my dad has been in and out of
> hospital because of a blood/sodium level imbalance, and they also
> discovered some benign tumours on his brain, he gradually
> deteriorated. Today we discovered the reason why. Why it has taken so
> long to find it we will never know but today he has been diagnosed
> with advanced lung cancer.
>
>
> Today was the hardest day of my life, my brother had to tell my dad
> he
> was going to die. My dad loves life, loves his family and had so much
> to live for.
>
>
> Scary stories have never stopped me from smoking, we all know deep
> down that smoking is killing us and if that was enough surely no one
> would smoke. My dad would probably have died 8 years ago had he not
> quit smoking. My dad knows he would certainly have lived many years
> more if he had done it sooner.
>
>
> He held my hand today and he whispered to me .... at least we quit in
> time to save you ......
>

{{{{{{{{{{Karen}}}}}}}}}}
Even though you are so very sad, it's lovely to feel the pride you have in
your dad. As you quite rightly say quitting has prolonged his time with
you, he has shown you how proud he feels towards you. As hard as it is
just now please show him how strong you too can be ?
My thoughts are with you and your Dad
Hugs

(¯`.¸·´¯) Barbara (¯`·¸.´¯)
SFB2er
~OFHOF+~
We all get heavier as we get older because there's a lot more information in
our heads.



"Karen" <sendkaren@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1192822019.665893.95110@i38g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
> My dad quit smoking in November 1999, he was 68 years of age at the
> time. He had smoked since he was 15, he was a 40 a day plus smoker.
> He
> and I quit together. He succeeded - I failed a few months later
> unbeknown to him - never had the bottle to tell him because we had a
> pact - if you give up I'll give up ... my dad was due a heart bypass
> and they had told him if he didn't quit it wouldn't work. He waited 3
> years for his successful heart bypass.
>
> The years went by and my dad got healthier and healthier or so it
> appeared. He astounded the healthy heart clinic with his progress. He
> even started juicing and bought him self an exercise bike, he did
> 10km
> a day regular. Everyone was amazed how well he did and the change in
> his lifestyle.
>
>
> In April 2007 he tripped over a kerbstone in a supermarket carpark
> and
> broke his femur. They operated and the wound healed quickly but his
> blood sodium level dropped and they thought it was probably due to
> the
> shock of the fall. He ended up in hospital for months, had all kinds
> of tests and scans but the problem remained a mystery.
>
>
> Over the course of the last 6 months my dad has been in and out of
> hospital because of a blood/sodium level imbalance, and they also
> discovered some benign tumours on his brain, he gradually
> deteriorated. Today we discovered the reason why. Why it has taken so
> long to find it we will never know but today he has been diagnosed
> with advanced lung cancer.
>
>
> Today was the hardest day of my life, my brother had to tell my dad
> he
> was going to die. My dad loves life, loves his family and had so much
> to live for.
>
>
> Scary stories have never stopped me from smoking, we all know deep
> down that smoking is killing us and if that was enough surely no one
> would smoke. My dad would probably have died 8 years ago had he not
> quit smoking. My dad knows he would certainly have lived many years
> more if he had done it sooner.
>
>
> He held my hand today and he whispered to me .... at least we quit in
> time to save you ......
>

Many thanks to you all for your kind and thoughtful messages. Sorry I
can't bring myself to answer you all individually just now.

My dad passed away early hours of this morning...

Hope this message will encourage others to join me in my new journey
to now being smoke free.

Karen xx

On 22 Oct, 07:08, Karen <sendka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Many thanks to you all for your kind and thoughtful messages. Sorry I
> can't bring myself to answer you all individually just now.
>
> My dad passed away early hours of this morning...
>
> Hope this message will encourage others to join me in my new journey
> to now being smoke free.
>
> Karen xxx


{{{{{{{{{{Karen}}}}}}}}}}

My heart goes out to you and yours

Love and Hugs
Barbara
xxx

On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:08:46 -0700, Karen <sendkaren@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Many thanks to you all for your kind and thoughtful messages. Sorry I
>can't bring myself to answer you all individually just now.
>
>My dad passed away early hours of this morning...
>
>Hope this message will encourage others to join me in my new journey
>to now being smoke free.
>
>Karen xx

I'm so sorry Karen. So, you *are* going to quit? Good for you. I
think you have the strongest impetus ever to get the job done.
Please post often and let us know how you're doing.
Sue

>

On Oct 22, 1:08 am, Karen <sendka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Many thanks to you all for your kind and thoughtful messages. Sorry I
> can't bring myself to answer you all individually just now.
>
> My dad passed away early hours of this morning...
>
> Hope this message will encourage others to join me in my new journey
> to now being smoke free.
>
> Karen xx

Peace..............

((((Karen))))

I am so sorry sweetie.

You have the whole of AS3 to support you and to help you with your quit.
Don't give up the fight.

hugs,
robbster



Karen wrote:
> My dad quit smoking in November 1999, he was 68 years of age at the
> time. He had smoked since he was 15, he was a 40 a day plus smoker.
> He
> and I quit together. He succeeded - I failed a few months later
> unbeknown to him - never had the bottle to tell him because we had a
> pact - if you give up I'll give up ... my dad was due a heart bypass
> and they had told him if he didn't quit it wouldn't work. He waited 3
> years for his successful heart bypass.
>
> The years went by and my dad got healthier and healthier or so it
> appeared. He astounded the healthy heart clinic with his progress. He
> even started juicing and bought him self an exercise bike, he did
> 10km
> a day regular. Everyone was amazed how well he did and the change in
> his lifestyle.
>
>
> In April 2007 he tripped over a kerbstone in a supermarket carpark
> and
> broke his femur. They operated and the wound healed quickly but his
> blood sodium level dropped and they thought it was probably due to
> the
> shock of the fall. He ended up in hospital for months, had all kinds
> of tests and scans but the problem remained a mystery.
>
>
> Over the course of the last 6 months my dad has been in and out of
> hospital because of a blood/sodium level imbalance, and they also
> discovered some benign tumours on his brain, he gradually
> deteriorated. Today we discovered the reason why. Why it has taken so
> long to find it we will never know but today he has been diagnosed
> with advanced lung cancer.
>
>
> Today was the hardest day of my life, my brother had to tell my dad
> he
> was going to die. My dad loves life, loves his family and had so much
> to live for.
>
>
> Scary stories have never stopped me from smoking, we all know deep
> down that smoking is killing us and if that was enough surely no one
> would smoke. My dad would probably have died 8 years ago had he not
> quit smoking. My dad knows he would certainly have lived many years
> more if he had done it sooner.
>
>
> He held my hand today and he whispered to me .... at least we quit in
> time to save you ......
>

--

"You create your own opportunities from your habitual thinking and those
thoughts create your reality."
~John
www.ciggyfree.com

(((Karen)))

--
Steven Wright.: "Is it weird in here, or is it just me?"
-

Sorry to hear that sweetie. Don't know what to say, so I hope you'll
settle for a big hug from Holland for now. Stay strong. Talk to you soon,
Robin.

--
Steven Wright.: "Is it weird in here, or is it just me?"
-
"Karen" <> schreef in bericht ...
> Many thanks to you all for your kind and thoughtful messages. Sorry I
> can't bring myself to answer you all individually just now.
>
> My dad passed away early hours of this morning...
>
> Hope this message will encourage others to join me in my new journey
> to now being smoke free.
>
> Karen xx
>
>

(((((Karen)))))

Thinking of you,
Cat



"Karen" <sendkaren@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1192822019.665893.95110@i38g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
> My dad quit smoking in November 1999, he was 68 years of age at the
> time. He had smoked since he was 15, he was a 40 a day plus smoker.
> He
> and I quit together. He succeeded - I failed a few months later
> unbeknown to him - never had the bottle to tell him because we had a
> pact - if you give up I'll give up ... my dad was due a heart bypass
> and they had told him if he didn't quit it wouldn't work. He waited 3
> years for his successful heart bypass.
>
> The years went by and my dad got healthier and healthier or so it
> appeared. He astounded the healthy heart clinic with his progress. He
> even started juicing and bought him self an exercise bike, he did
> 10km
> a day regular. Everyone was amazed how well he did and the change in
> his lifestyle.
>
>
> In April 2007 he tripped over a kerbstone in a supermarket carpark
> and
> broke his femur. They operated and the wound healed quickly but his
> blood sodium level dropped and they thought it was probably due to
> the
> shock of the fall. He ended up in hospital for months, had all kinds
> of tests and scans but the problem remained a mystery.
>
>
> Over the course of the last 6 months my dad has been in and out of
> hospital because of a blood/sodium level imbalance, and they also
> discovered some benign tumours on his brain, he gradually
> deteriorated. Today we discovered the reason why. Why it has taken so
> long to find it we will never know but today he has been diagnosed
> with advanced lung cancer.
>
>
> Today was the hardest day of my life, my brother had to tell my dad
> he
> was going to die. My dad loves life, loves his family and had so much
> to live for.
>
>
> Scary stories have never stopped me from smoking, we all know deep
> down that smoking is killing us and if that was enough surely no one
> would smoke. My dad would probably have died 8 years ago had he not
> quit smoking. My dad knows he would certainly have lived many years
> more if he had done it sooner.
>
>
> He held my hand today and he whispered to me .... at least we quit in
> time to save you ......
>

((Karen))

AnneD - also lost a loved one to lung cancer.

"Karen" <sendkaren@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193033326.386080.234030@e9g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
> Many thanks to you all for your kind and thoughtful messages. Sorry I
> can't bring myself to answer you all individually just now.
>
> My dad passed away early hours of this morning...
>
> Hope this message will encourage others to join me in my new journey
> to now being smoke free.
>
> Karen xx
>
>

Once upon a time, BostonJW (Lurking007) said:

>I'm sorry to hear about your dad, and I hope that you find the strength in
>your heart to cope with this hurt.
>
>Please pardon me for being presumptuous, and forgive me if I'm flat wrong
>about this, and for being so direct, but I would like to make an
>observation.

What a beautiful caring post Jaime. Take heed though, we are getting
used to this

--
Tihomir 4M3W *I don't smoke anymore*

DOS=HIGH? I knew it was on something!

Once upon a time, Karen said:

>My dad quit smoking in November 1999, he was 68 years of age at the
>time. He had smoked since he was 15, he was a 40 a day plus smoker.

This is the most touching story I have read in a long time Karen. Your
father has to take the path given to him as we all do and I wish his
words will help you quit and stay quit.

May God bless your father, his health, and you, and your quit.

--
Tihomir 4M3W *I don't smoke anymore*

If I had my life to live over again, I'd be a plumber.
- Albert Einstein

Once upon a time, Karen said:

>Many thanks to you all for your kind and thoughtful messages. Sorry I
>can't bring myself to answer you all individually just now.
>
>My dad passed away early hours of this morning...
>
>Hope this message will encourage others to join me in my new journey
>to now being smoke free.

God bless his soul. Please accept my sincerest condolence Karen and
thank you for taking the time and strength to let us know.

When you feel ready, talk to us and hopefully we will be able to
support you on your journey.

--
Tihomir 4M3W *I don't smoke anymore*

Adult: A person who has stopped growing at both ends
and is now growing in the middle.