surprising cravings

So today, I accidently put myself is a very streesful situation, and
instantly I had a craving to smoke and still do. I'm still feeling the
stress of the situation. Anyways, my point is I was totally surprised
by this craving. I haven't smoked in 7 wks and yet here it is.. the
urge to smoke, and strong too...
Anyways I'm not going to smoke, I guess this is sorta a warning, not
to let your guard down. Hopefully as the day goes by and I figure out
a way to handle the situation this craving will subside.

On Jan 12, 8:05*am, MsNurse13 <yeaitsme...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> So today, I accidently put myself is a very streesful situation, and
> instantly I had a craving to smoke and still do. I'm still feeling the
> stress of the situation. Anyways, my point is I was totally surprised
> by this craving. I haven't smoked in *7 wks and yet here it is.. the
> urge to smoke, and strong too...
> Anyways I'm not going to smoke, I guess this is sorta a warning, not
> to let your guard down. Hopefully as the day goes by and I figure out
> a way to handle the situation this craving will subside.

Stress is a bugger -- for me it was.

I guess if the situation isn't time-imperative then doing something
incredibly relaxing might help -- spoil yourself, take time for you
first. Destress if possible. Stress makes everything seem magnified.

Music can bring some relief too -- http://www.johnphoto.com/retro/lionsAre.html

It's sunny here today. Sunhine is good too :-)

I hope your day goes well.

Cheers!

-- Marvin

On 12 jan, 14:05, MsNurse13 <yeaitsme...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> So today, I accidently put myself is a very streesful situation, and
> instantly I had a craving to smoke and still do. I'm still feeling the
> stress of the situation. Anyways, my point is I was totally surprised
> by this craving. I haven't smoked in *7 wks and yet here it is.. the
> urge to smoke, and strong too...
> Anyways I'm not going to smoke, I guess this is sorta a warning, not
> to let your guard down. Hopefully as the day goes by and I figure out
> a way to handle the situation this craving will subside.

Looking back at the past 5 days, I haven't had real nerve-wracking
cravings (yet..) There's a couple of reasons for that, one of them is
that I haven't been in very stressful situations (thank God..),
another one is that I avoided smokers. Actually, I made this week
pretty easy for myself, but it can't last. I have to admit that I'm
not looking forward at all to the day that I "have to" meet smoking
people again..

MsNurse, congratulations on those 7 weeks, don't let anything spoil
them!!

MsNurse13 wrote:
> So today, I accidently put myself is a very streesful situation, and
> instantly I had a craving to smoke and still do. I'm still feeling the
> stress of the situation. Anyways, my point is I was totally surprised
> by this craving. I haven't smoked in 7 wks and yet here it is.. the
> urge to smoke, and strong too...
> Anyways I'm not going to smoke, I guess this is sorta a warning, not
> to let your guard down. Hopefully as the day goes by and I figure out
> a way to handle the situation this craving will subside.

It gets better with time but, even after 10 years, the damned thing
still comes back to bite me.

That's why I'm back in here reading, after a long long time smober.

oh it will die down think of it as being a reminder not to get too
comfortable in your quit.
--
Lynn VOF Leaper
"Everyone seems normal until you get to know them."



"MsNurse13" <yeaitsme000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:286abf95-dd12-4d16-a755-a1dd56fc9594@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> So today, I accidently put myself is a very streesful situation, and
> instantly I had a craving to smoke and still do. I'm still feeling the
> stress of the situation. Anyways, my point is I was totally surprised
> by this craving. I haven't smoked in 7 wks and yet here it is.. the
> urge to smoke, and strong too...
> Anyways I'm not going to smoke, I guess this is sorta a warning, not
> to let your guard down. Hopefully as the day goes by and I figure out
> a way to handle the situation this craving will subside.

Both of you, please remember this...

There is nothing in this world that smoking ever has or will make better.
The reason we want to reach for a cig when we are stressed, overtired, etc
is because of the years of faulty programming that we did to ourselves. We
trained our brains to think that a cig made things better, but in reality,
smoking just chemically jammed our feel-good brain receptors to give us the
ILLUSION of calm, happy. Thing is, after not smoking for awhile, the
receptors shrink and do not need any chemicals that cigs have to offer.
Ergo, a cig at this point will only make you sick and re-awaken your
addiction by immediately enlarging those receptors again. Who the hell
would want that????
Next time you really think you need a cig, know that it is a lie.
Lies are the nature of addictions.

Hugs,
Cat
---
2y 1m 1d 3:47 smoke-free, 30,489 cigs not smoked, $6,097.80 saved, 3m 2w
20:45 life saved
Ex-serial-quitter!




"Peter Cremasco" <Firstname.Lastname@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:5usnisF1j5bijU1@mid.individual.net...
> MsNurse13 wrote:
>> So today, I accidently put myself is a very streesful situation, and
>> instantly I had a craving to smoke and still do. I'm still feeling the
>> stress of the situation. Anyways, my point is I was totally surprised
>> by this craving. I haven't smoked in 7 wks and yet here it is.. the
>> urge to smoke, and strong too...
>> Anyways I'm not going to smoke, I guess this is sorta a warning, not
>> to let your guard down. Hopefully as the day goes by and I figure out
>> a way to handle the situation this craving will subside.
>
> It gets better with time but, even after 10 years, the damned thing still
> comes back to bite me.
>
> That's why I'm back in here reading, after a long long time smober.

Amen!

--
Steven Wright.: "Is it weird in here, or is it just me?"
-
"CuckooCat" <> schreef in bericht ...
> Both of you, please remember this...
>
> There is nothing in this world that smoking ever has or will make better.
> The reason we want to reach for a cig when we are stressed, overtired, etc
> is because of the years of faulty programming that we did to ourselves.
> We trained our brains to think that a cig made things better, but in
> reality, smoking just chemically jammed our feel-good brain receptors to
> give us the ILLUSION of calm, happy. Thing is, after not smoking for
> awhile, the receptors shrink and do not need any chemicals that cigs have
> to offer. Ergo, a cig at this point will only make you sick and re-awaken
> your addiction by immediately enlarging those receptors again. Who the
> hell would want that????
> Next time you really think you need a cig, know that it is a lie.
> Lies are the nature of addictions.
>
> Hugs,
> Cat
> ---
> 2y 1m 1d 3:47 smoke-free, 30,489 cigs not smoked, $6,097.80 saved, 3m 2w
> 20:45 life saved
> Ex-serial-quitter!
>
>
>
>
> "Peter Cremasco" <Firstname.Lastname@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:5usnisF1j5bijU1@mid.individual.net...
>> MsNurse13 wrote:
>>> So today, I accidently put myself is a very streesful situation, and
>>> instantly I had a craving to smoke and still do. I'm still feeling the
>>> stress of the situation. Anyways, my point is I was totally surprised
>>> by this craving. I haven't smoked in 7 wks and yet here it is.. the
>>> urge to smoke, and strong too...
>>> Anyways I'm not going to smoke, I guess this is sorta a warning, not
>>> to let your guard down. Hopefully as the day goes by and I figure out
>>> a way to handle the situation this craving will subside.
>>
>> It gets better with time but, even after 10 years, the damned thing still
>> comes back to bite me.
>>
>> That's why I'm back in here reading, after a long long time smober.
>

Yup, keep your guard up at all times. You can always expect
stress to trigger a crave here and there. Learning how to deal
with craves like that will get you to freedom in no time. Stay
strong.

--
Steven Wright.: "Is it weird in here, or is it just me?"
-
"MsNurse13" <> schreef in bericht ...
> So today, I accidently put myself is a very streesful situation, and
> instantly I had a craving to smoke and still do. I'm still feeling the
> stress of the situation. Anyways, my point is I was totally surprised
> by this craving. I haven't smoked in 7 wks and yet here it is.. the
> urge to smoke, and strong too...
> Anyways I'm not going to smoke, I guess this is sorta a warning, not
> to let your guard down. Hopefully as the day goes by and I figure out
> a way to handle the situation this craving will subside.

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:18:29 -0600, "CuckooCat" <silly@laughing.net>
wrote:

>Both of you, please remember this...
>
>There is nothing in this world that smoking ever has or will make better.

Everyone is different and maybe not better but surely easier for me -
losing weight. I dumped off 25 pounds with one hand tied behind my
back when I was smoking. Now? <sigh> Still, I keep telling myself
that I'm better off not smoking than being, well, bunches of pounds
overweight. It's getting to be a really hard sell. (
Sue


>The reason we want to reach for a cig when we are stressed, overtired, etc
>is because of the years of faulty programming that we did to ourselves. We
>trained our brains to think that a cig made things better, but in reality,
>smoking just chemically jammed our feel-good brain receptors to give us the
>ILLUSION of calm, happy. Thing is, after not smoking for awhile, the
>receptors shrink and do not need any chemicals that cigs have to offer.
>Ergo, a cig at this point will only make you sick and re-awaken your
>addiction by immediately enlarging those receptors again. Who the hell
>would want that????
>Next time you really think you need a cig, know that it is a lie.
>Lies are the nature of addictions.
>
>Hugs,
>Cat
>---
>2y 1m 1d 3:47 smoke-free, 30,489 cigs not smoked, $6,097.80 saved, 3m 2w
>20:45 life saved
>Ex-serial-quitter!
>
>
>
>
>"Peter Cremasco" <Firstname.Lastname@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>news:5usnisF1j5bijU1@mid.individual.net...
>> MsNurse13 wrote:
>>> So today, I accidently put myself is a very streesful situation, and
>>> instantly I had a craving to smoke and still do. I'm still feeling the
>>> stress of the situation. Anyways, my point is I was totally surprised
>>> by this craving. I haven't smoked in 7 wks and yet here it is.. the
>>> urge to smoke, and strong too...
>>> Anyways I'm not going to smoke, I guess this is sorta a warning, not
>>> to let your guard down. Hopefully as the day goes by and I figure out
>>> a way to handle the situation this craving will subside.
>>
>> It gets better with time but, even after 10 years, the damned thing still
>> comes back to bite me.
>>
>> That's why I'm back in here reading, after a long long time smober.

Losing weight hasn't changed. Eat more calories than you need and you
will gain. Eat less calories than you need and you'll lose weight. So, your
metabolism slowed down a bit and you wont be able to dump 25 pounds
with one hand tied behind your back, big deal.

Start eating more and healthier and your metabolism will speed up. Start
working out and your metabolism will speed up. Combine the two and
you'll have trouble eating enough to keep your weight up.

Looking at cigarettes to keep weight off will just drive ya bonkers. Think
about it. If a never smoker comes up to you and wants to lose weight,
would you recommend taking up smoking?

--
Steven Wright.: "Is it weird in here, or is it just me?"
-
"Sue" <> schreef in bericht ...
>
> Everyone is different and maybe not better but surely easier for me -
> losing weight. I dumped off 25 pounds with one hand tied behind my
> back when I was smoking. Now? <sigh> Still, I keep telling myself
> that I'm better off not smoking than being, well, bunches of pounds
> overweight. It's getting to be a really hard sell. (
> Sue
>
>

MsNurse! Be of good cheer! You did say NOOO to the urge and
recognized it for what it is. While one would think after 7 weeks you
would be 'over it' the fact is we are addicts and there will always be
some part of our brain that thinks smoking IS the answer. You know
better and 99% of your brain does too, so just stay vigilant and you
will remain smober. Certainly being active here and posting helps
many of us keep the focus where it needs to be!

Hang Tuff
Don't Puff

FlatironMike
Eleven months, two days, 20 hours, 0 minutes and 27 seconds. 6736
cigarettes not smoked, saving $2,021.00. Life saved: 3 weeks, 2 days,
9 hours, 20 minutes.

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 00:06:59 +0100, "DutchVanAfoort"
<zniborz@fakeAddy.con> wrote:

>Losing weight hasn't changed. Eat more calories than you need and you
>will gain. Eat less calories than you need and you'll lose weight. So, your
>metabolism slowed down a bit and you wont be able to dump 25 pounds
>with one hand tied behind your back, big deal.

Robin, I wasn't even thinking about metabolism but, yes, that's slowed
way down, too. Of course losing weight is doable smoking or not.
You're right - eat fewer calories than you burn. No big secret there.
It was just *easier* to lose while smoking because the cig was a
substitute for eating just as the eating became a substitute for
smoking. Everyone is different. Nothing is easy. Well, for some
maybe.

>
>Start eating more and healthier and your metabolism will speed up. Start
>working out and your metabolism will speed up. Combine the two and
>you'll have trouble eating enough to keep your weight up.

<sigh> I know. I'm having a bitch of a time getting motivated
enough. I think my metabolism has come to a dead halt.

>
>Looking at cigarettes to keep weight off will just drive ya bonkers. Think
>about it. If a never smoker comes up to you and wants to lose weight,
>would you recommend taking up smoking?

I wouldn't just because of the detrimental nature of cigarettes, but I
believe that people have started smoking for just that reason. I
won't. I'll just be a fat slob. A fat nonsmoking slob. Every ounce
of self control I ever owned went into not smoking. I've none left. I
ran out of patience in July, 1974 and my last ounce of self-control
was used up in March, 2006.
I *hate* to be hungry and anyone who tells you that a little pile of
carrots is as satisfying as a Hershey bar is kidding him/herself. I've
never been able to lie to myself.
Sue - old and tired.
One year, nine months, three weeks, two days, 17 hours, 58 minutes and
9 seconds. 21903 cigarettes not smoked, saving $3,647.20. Life saved:
10 weeks, 6 days, 1 hour, 15 minutes and 35 pounds up.

I dunno Sue. You say you feel better when you eat crap than when you eat
healthy food? Yet, you wonder why you feel old and tired. Don't get me
wrong, I love the taste of sweets. But when I really try to eat more
fruits, veggies and whole grains, I feel way better in a matter of days.
Incedently, I gained 25 pounds when I quit 2 years ago. In the last 6
months or so, 10 have just slid off. I believe it is a combo of trying to
eat better and just my metabolism finally getting back into whack after cigs
ravishing me for so long. I really believe that your natural weight is as a
nonsmoker. Smoking makes you malnourished, unhealthy and just plain sickly.
Also, it's funny how we associate eating bad food with satisfaction. Blame
the big fattening food corporations on that brainwash.
Love ya,
Cat




"Sue" <sebrady@thegrid.net> wrote in message
news:1n8lo3hk2rar5k2d44ikapft1dlu4rnofo@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 00:06:59 +0100, "DutchVanAfoort"
> <zniborz@fakeAddy.con> wrote:
>
>>Losing weight hasn't changed. Eat more calories than you need and you
>>will gain. Eat less calories than you need and you'll lose weight. So,
>>your
>>metabolism slowed down a bit and you wont be able to dump 25 pounds
>>with one hand tied behind your back, big deal.
>
> Robin, I wasn't even thinking about metabolism but, yes, that's slowed
> way down, too. Of course losing weight is doable smoking or not.
> You're right - eat fewer calories than you burn. No big secret there.
> It was just *easier* to lose while smoking because the cig was a
> substitute for eating just as the eating became a substitute for
> smoking. Everyone is different. Nothing is easy. Well, for some
> maybe.
>
>>
>>Start eating more and healthier and your metabolism will speed up. Start
>>working out and your metabolism will speed up. Combine the two and
>>you'll have trouble eating enough to keep your weight up.
>
> <sigh> I know. I'm having a bitch of a time getting motivated
> enough. I think my metabolism has come to a dead halt.
>
>>
>>Looking at cigarettes to keep weight off will just drive ya bonkers. Think
>>about it. If a never smoker comes up to you and wants to lose weight,
>>would you recommend taking up smoking?
>
> I wouldn't just because of the detrimental nature of cigarettes, but I
> believe that people have started smoking for just that reason. I
> won't. I'll just be a fat slob. A fat nonsmoking slob. Every ounce
> of self control I ever owned went into not smoking. I've none left. I
> ran out of patience in July, 1974 and my last ounce of self-control
> was used up in March, 2006.
> I *hate* to be hungry and anyone who tells you that a little pile of
> carrots is as satisfying as a Hershey bar is kidding him/herself. I've
> never been able to lie to myself.
> Sue - old and tired.
> One year, nine months, three weeks, two days, 17 hours, 58 minutes and
> 9 seconds. 21903 cigarettes not smoked, saving $3,647.20. Life saved:
> 10 weeks, 6 days, 1 hour, 15 minutes and 35 pounds up.
>

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:20:17 -0600, "CuckooCat" <silly@laughing.net>
wrote:

>I dunno Sue. You say you feel better when you eat crap than when you eat
>healthy food?

I did *not* say I felt better. You misunderstood. I said satisfied.
> Yet, you wonder why you feel old and tired. Don't get me
>wrong, I love the taste of sweets. But when I really try to eat more
>fruits, veggies and whole grains, I feel way better in a matter of days.

I am not saying any different. Really, for the moment, would you
rather have sweets or vegetables? Never mind the health of it. Your
tongue. What does your tongue want? Mind you, I like vegetables. I
eat vegetables - had yummie creamed spinach last night at dinner.

>Incedently, I gained 25 pounds when I quit 2 years ago. In the last 6
>months or so, 10 have just slid off. I believe it is a combo of trying to
>eat better and just my metabolism finally getting back into whack after cigs
>ravishing me for so long. I really believe that your natural weight is as a
>nonsmoker. Smoking makes you malnourished, unhealthy and just plain sickly.

Well, I wasn't exactly a sickly as a smoker on the surface. I mean I
never had to call in sick, never had bronchitis or pneumonia. I have
1400 sick hours accumulated at work.

>Also, it's funny how we associate eating bad food with satisfaction. Blame
>the big fattening food corporations on that brainwash.
>Love ya,

You too. )
Sue

>Cat
>
>
>
>
>"Sue" <sebrady@thegrid.net> wrote in message
>news:1n8lo3hk2rar5k2d44ikapft1dlu4rnofo@4ax.com.. .
>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 00:06:59 +0100, "DutchVanAfoort"
>> <zniborz@fakeAddy.con> wrote:
>>
>>>Losing weight hasn't changed. Eat more calories than you need and you
>>>will gain. Eat less calories than you need and you'll lose weight. So,
>>>your
>>>metabolism slowed down a bit and you wont be able to dump 25 pounds
>>>with one hand tied behind your back, big deal.
>>
>> Robin, I wasn't even thinking about metabolism but, yes, that's slowed
>> way down, too. Of course losing weight is doable smoking or not.
>> You're right - eat fewer calories than you burn. No big secret there.
>> It was just *easier* to lose while smoking because the cig was a
>> substitute for eating just as the eating became a substitute for
>> smoking. Everyone is different. Nothing is easy. Well, for some
>> maybe.
>>
>>>
>>>Start eating more and healthier and your metabolism will speed up. Start
>>>working out and your metabolism will speed up. Combine the two and
>>>you'll have trouble eating enough to keep your weight up.
>>
>> <sigh> I know. I'm having a bitch of a time getting motivated
>> enough. I think my metabolism has come to a dead halt.
>>
>>>
>>>Looking at cigarettes to keep weight off will just drive ya bonkers. Think
>>>about it. If a never smoker comes up to you and wants to lose weight,
>>>would you recommend taking up smoking?
>>
>> I wouldn't just because of the detrimental nature of cigarettes, but I
>> believe that people have started smoking for just that reason. I
>> won't. I'll just be a fat slob. A fat nonsmoking slob. Every ounce
>> of self control I ever owned went into not smoking. I've none left. I
>> ran out of patience in July, 1974 and my last ounce of self-control
>> was used up in March, 2006.
>> I *hate* to be hungry and anyone who tells you that a little pile of
>> carrots is as satisfying as a Hershey bar is kidding him/herself. I've
>> never been able to lie to myself.
>> Sue - old and tired.
>> One year, nine months, three weeks, two days, 17 hours, 58 minutes and
>> 9 seconds. 21903 cigarettes not smoked, saving $3,647.20. Life saved:
>> 10 weeks, 6 days, 1 hour, 15 minutes and 35 pounds up.
>>

OK, beer or broccoli?
I'll take a beer every time.
You got me.
LOL

Nah, really, I think your taste changes after denying sugars and salts for
abit.
Try it, you may be surprised.
As far as your spinach? Creamed is bad. It is really delicious fresh,
sautéed in olive oil with a tiny bit of soy-bacon bits...I swear!
xoxoxoxox

"Sue" <sebrady@thegrid.net> wrote in message
news:34clo3956gemovhp90f76d8jm3n6lch1uq@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:20:17 -0600, "CuckooCat" <silly@laughing.net>
> wrote:
>
>>I dunno Sue. You say you feel better when you eat crap than when you eat
>>healthy food?
>
> I did *not* say I felt better. You misunderstood. I said satisfied.
>> Yet, you wonder why you feel old and tired. Don't get me
>>wrong, I love the taste of sweets. But when I really try to eat more
>>fruits, veggies and whole grains, I feel way better in a matter of days.
>
> I am not saying any different. Really, for the moment, would you
> rather have sweets or vegetables? Never mind the health of it. Your
> tongue. What does your tongue want? Mind you, I like vegetables. I
> eat vegetables - had yummie creamed spinach last night at dinner.
>
>>Incedently, I gained 25 pounds when I quit 2 years ago. In the last 6
>>months or so, 10 have just slid off. I believe it is a combo of trying to
>>eat better and just my metabolism finally getting back into whack after
>>cigs
>>ravishing me for so long. I really believe that your natural weight is as
>>a
>>nonsmoker. Smoking makes you malnourished, unhealthy and just plain
>>sickly.
>
> Well, I wasn't exactly a sickly as a smoker on the surface. I mean I
> never had to call in sick, never had bronchitis or pneumonia. I have
> 1400 sick hours accumulated at work.
>
>>Also, it's funny how we associate eating bad food with satisfaction.
>>Blame
>>the big fattening food corporations on that brainwash.
>>Love ya,
>
> You too. )
> Sue
>
>>Cat
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Sue" <sebrady@thegrid.net> wrote in message
>>news:1n8lo3hk2rar5k2d44ikapft1dlu4rnofo@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 00:06:59 +0100, "DutchVanAfoort"
>>> <zniborz@fakeAddy.con> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Losing weight hasn't changed. Eat more calories than you need and you
>>>>will gain. Eat less calories than you need and you'll lose weight. So,
>>>>your
>>>>metabolism slowed down a bit and you wont be able to dump 25 pounds
>>>>with one hand tied behind your back, big deal.
>>>
>>> Robin, I wasn't even thinking about metabolism but, yes, that's slowed
>>> way down, too. Of course losing weight is doable smoking or not.
>>> You're right - eat fewer calories than you burn. No big secret there.
>>> It was just *easier* to lose while smoking because the cig was a
>>> substitute for eating just as the eating became a substitute for
>>> smoking. Everyone is different. Nothing is easy. Well, for some
>>> maybe.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Start eating more and healthier and your metabolism will speed up. Start
>>>>working out and your metabolism will speed up. Combine the two and
>>>>you'll have trouble eating enough to keep your weight up.
>>>
>>> <sigh> I know. I'm having a bitch of a time getting motivated
>>> enough. I think my metabolism has come to a dead halt.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Looking at cigarettes to keep weight off will just drive ya bonkers.
>>>>Think
>>>>about it. If a never smoker comes up to you and wants to lose weight,
>>>>would you recommend taking up smoking?
>>>
>>> I wouldn't just because of the detrimental nature of cigarettes, but I
>>> believe that people have started smoking for just that reason. I
>>> won't. I'll just be a fat slob. A fat nonsmoking slob. Every ounce
>>> of self control I ever owned went into not smoking. I've none left. I
>>> ran out of patience in July, 1974 and my last ounce of self-control
>>> was used up in March, 2006.
>>> I *hate* to be hungry and anyone who tells you that a little pile of
>>> carrots is as satisfying as a Hershey bar is kidding him/herself. I've
>>> never been able to lie to myself.
>>> Sue - old and tired.
>>> One year, nine months, three weeks, two days, 17 hours, 58 minutes and
>>> 9 seconds. 21903 cigarettes not smoked, saving $3,647.20. Life saved:
>>> 10 weeks, 6 days, 1 hour, 15 minutes and 35 pounds up.
>>>

On Jan 13, 8:03*pm, "CuckooCat" <si...@laughing.net> wrote:
> OK, beer or broccoli?
> I'll take a beer every time.
> You got me.
> LOL
>
A beer for me too Cat please lol!
but you know the wonderful thing I find when I quit - or now that I AM
QUIT I should say ;o) is that I find anything too sugary or too salty
tastes awful - didn't notice so much when I smoked - so quitting
naturally makes me enjoy eating healthy - aren't I lucky!!!

Karen
One week, one day, 21 hours, 2 minutes and 32 seconds. 177 cigarettes
not smoked, saving $66.57. Life saved: 14 hours, 45 minutes.

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:03:21 -0600, "CuckooCat" <silly@laughing.net>
wrote:

>OK, beer or broccoli?
>I'll take a beer every time.

I'd take the broccoli. )

>You got me.
>LOL

There ya go!

>
>Nah, really, I think your taste changes after denying sugars and salts for
>abit.

I do not like much salt and get so fed up with the huge amounts put on
and in food at restaurants (the creamed spinach had too much) and in
processed foods. Do you serve food in your bar? Do you dump in the
salt?

>Try it, you may be surprised.
>As far as your spinach? Creamed is bad.

Of course it was bad healthwise. Good tastewise. Everything good for
you tastes better (in my opinion!) after it's been badified. I really
do love vegetables but they have to have modifiers - butter and/or
parmesan cheese or mayo (Sarah's dreaded artichokes - yum).

> It is really delicious fresh,
>sautéed in olive oil with a tiny bit of soy-bacon bits...I swear!

Personally, I like it boiled, drained and sprinkled with vinegar. I
think it's the only vegetable I can eat without any of the
aforementioned. Soy bacon bits. Geeze. Do they make soy beer?

>xoxoxoxox

((huggles))
Sue

>
>"Sue" <sebrady@thegrid.net> wrote in message
>news:34clo3956gemovhp90f76d8jm3n6lch1uq@4ax.com.. .
>> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:20:17 -0600, "CuckooCat" <silly@laughing.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I dunno Sue. You say you feel better when you eat crap than when you eat
>>>healthy food?
>>
>> I did *not* say I felt better. You misunderstood. I said satisfied.
>>> Yet, you wonder why you feel old and tired. Don't get me
>>>wrong, I love the taste of sweets. But when I really try to eat more
>>>fruits, veggies and whole grains, I feel way better in a matter of days.
>>
>> I am not saying any different. Really, for the moment, would you
>> rather have sweets or vegetables? Never mind the health of it. Your
>> tongue. What does your tongue want? Mind you, I like vegetables. I
>> eat vegetables - had yummie creamed spinach last night at dinner.
>>
>>>Incedently, I gained 25 pounds when I quit 2 years ago. In the last 6
>>>months or so, 10 have just slid off. I believe it is a combo of trying to
>>>eat better and just my metabolism finally getting back into whack after
>>>cigs
>>>ravishing me for so long. I really believe that your natural weight is as
>>>a
>>>nonsmoker. Smoking makes you malnourished, unhealthy and just plain
>>>sickly.
>>
>> Well, I wasn't exactly a sickly as a smoker on the surface. I mean I
>> never had to call in sick, never had bronchitis or pneumonia. I have
>> 1400 sick hours accumulated at work.
>>
>>>Also, it's funny how we associate eating bad food with satisfaction.
>>>Blame
>>>the big fattening food corporations on that brainwash.
>>>Love ya,
>>
>> You too. )
>> Sue
>>
>>>Cat
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Sue" <sebrady@thegrid.net> wrote in message
>>>news:1n8lo3hk2rar5k2d44ikapft1dlu4rnofo@4ax.com ...
>>>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 00:06:59 +0100, "DutchVanAfoort"
>>>> <zniborz@fakeAddy.con> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Losing weight hasn't changed. Eat more calories than you need and you
>>>>>will gain. Eat less calories than you need and you'll lose weight. So,
>>>>>your
>>>>>metabolism slowed down a bit and you wont be able to dump 25 pounds
>>>>>with one hand tied behind your back, big deal.
>>>>
>>>> Robin, I wasn't even thinking about metabolism but, yes, that's slowed
>>>> way down, too. Of course losing weight is doable smoking or not.
>>>> You're right - eat fewer calories than you burn. No big secret there.
>>>> It was just *easier* to lose while smoking because the cig was a
>>>> substitute for eating just as the eating became a substitute for
>>>> smoking. Everyone is different. Nothing is easy. Well, for some
>>>> maybe.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Start eating more and healthier and your metabolism will speed up. Start
>>>>>working out and your metabolism will speed up. Combine the two and
>>>>>you'll have trouble eating enough to keep your weight up.
>>>>
>>>> <sigh> I know. I'm having a bitch of a time getting motivated
>>>> enough. I think my metabolism has come to a dead halt.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Looking at cigarettes to keep weight off will just drive ya bonkers.
>>>>>Think
>>>>>about it. If a never smoker comes up to you and wants to lose weight,
>>>>>would you recommend taking up smoking?
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't just because of the detrimental nature of cigarettes, but I
>>>> believe that people have started smoking for just that reason. I
>>>> won't. I'll just be a fat slob. A fat nonsmoking slob. Every ounce
>>>> of self control I ever owned went into not smoking. I've none left. I
>>>> ran out of patience in July, 1974 and my last ounce of self-control
>>>> was used up in March, 2006.
>>>> I *hate* to be hungry and anyone who tells you that a little pile of
>>>> carrots is as satisfying as a Hershey bar is kidding him/herself. I've
>>>> never been able to lie to myself.
>>>> Sue - old and tired.
>>>> One year, nine months, three weeks, two days, 17 hours, 58 minutes and
>>>> 9 seconds. 21903 cigarettes not smoked, saving $3,647.20. Life saved:
>>>> 10 weeks, 6 days, 1 hour, 15 minutes and 35 pounds up.
>>>>

"CuckooCat" wrote
> OK, beer or broccoli?

Hey! It's a trick question, innit?
A roomful of people filled with broccoli, or a room full of people filled
with beer..!
Each scenario presents some rather harrowing possibilities.
Combine one or the other with either Day Three or the Flatulence Phase, and
it could be downright unpleasant.

Still, if the beer is nicely chilled...

chiming in with my two cents jusr cause i can
metabolism usually falls with age. older people ( not that I am calling you
old) on average burn fewer calories per pound of bodyweight than do younger
people. But that's because their lean body mass is less. muscle is active
and fat is passive.
so you know where i am going with this right? the dreaded E word ,excerise.
more in fact resistance excerises. go walking, lift weights (even if it cans
of soup) some squats.

"But the main solution for an "aging metabolism" is exercise. Exercise burn
calories while you exercise, and after exercise you continue to use more
calories than at rest. Even mild exercise leaves you burning extra calories
an hour later. If you exercise harder and longer, after 12 hours your energy
requirements will still be elevated. And even at rest, your metabolically
active muscles still use energy. The more muscle you have, the more calories
you use, round the clock. That's why weight training is so important. It
builds and maintains the calorie-burning muscle tissue that makes - and
keeps - you lean. Lifting weights keeps your metabolic fires burning
strongly."

one other thing take your vitamin C (with your vitamin D might be enough
with the multi and where you live in Calf) and all purpose multi Vitamin

yes it was easier to lose weight when we smoked and were 20 ,but we aren't
smokers anymore and we sure aren't 20.
yes I would have those chocolates over anything ANYTHING but I feel better
when I have an orange or go for a quick walk, even if I have to drag my ass
to get out there in the snow and freezing winds. which I have to do soon as
Katie and Molly ( dogs) wake up
--
Lynn VOF Leaper
"Everyone seems normal until you get to know them."






"Sue" <sebrady@thegrid.net> wrote in message
news:1n8lo3hk2rar5k2d44ikapft1dlu4rnofo@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 00:06:59 +0100, "DutchVanAfoort"
> <zniborz@fakeAddy.con> wrote:
>
>>Losing weight hasn't changed. Eat more calories than you need and you
>>will gain. Eat less calories than you need and you'll lose weight. So,
>>your
>>metabolism slowed down a bit and you wont be able to dump 25 pounds
>>with one hand tied behind your back, big deal.
>
> Robin, I wasn't even thinking about metabolism but, yes, that's slowed
> way down, too. Of course losing weight is doable smoking or not.
> You're right - eat fewer calories than you burn. No big secret there.
> It was just *easier* to lose while smoking because the cig was a
> substitute for eating just as the eating became a substitute for
> smoking. Everyone is different. Nothing is easy. Well, for some
> maybe.

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:56:29 -0400, "Lynn"
<lynn.scott@ns.spammenotsympatico.ca> wrote:

>chiming in with my two cents jusr cause i can
> metabolism usually falls with age. older people ( not that I am calling you
>old) on average burn fewer calories per pound of bodyweight than do younger
>people. But that's because their lean body mass is less. muscle is active
>and fat is passive.
>so you know where i am going with this right? the dreaded E word ,excerise.
>more in fact resistance excerises. go walking, lift weights (even if it cans
>of soup) some squats.

I know, I know. All of the above and all of the below, I know. I had
started using little 3 pound weights for my little weak arms. That
lasted about a month. I have a little low step stool that I started
doing steps on. That lasted about a week. I started doing toilet
seat stand ups. That also lasted about a week. I'm now riding a
stationary (I don't know if that should be stationery and don't want
to get out the dictionary) bike three times a week for 15 to 20
minutes. At that point I feel like throwing up so that's all the time
I can give it. The bike belongs to GMF and that's the number of
nights I'm at his house.
I was one of those people who could eat anything and as much as I
wanted and stay skinny. What a damn bitch to get old (yes, I am).
..
>
>"But the main solution for an "aging metabolism" is exercise. Exercise burn
>calories while you exercise, and after exercise you continue to use more
>calories than at rest. Even mild exercise leaves you burning extra calories
>an hour later. If you exercise harder and longer, after 12 hours your energy
>requirements will still be elevated. And even at rest, your metabolically
>active muscles still use energy. The more muscle you have, the more calories
>you use, round the clock. That's why weight training is so important. It
>builds and maintains the calorie-burning muscle tissue that makes - and
>keeps - you lean. Lifting weights keeps your metabolic fires burning
>strongly."

I've just recently learned all of that.

>
> one other thing take your vitamin C (with your vitamin D might be enough
>with the multi and where you live in Calf) and all purpose multi Vitamin

I take my Centrum multi-vitamin every day and I've added extra lutein
(macular degeneration runs in the family) and I also now take some
Omega 3 pill.

>
> yes it was easier to lose weight when we smoked and were 20 ,but we aren't
>smokers anymore and we sure aren't 20.
>yes I would have those chocolates over anything ANYTHING but I feel better
>when I have an orange or go for a quick walk, even if I have to drag my ass
>to get out there in the snow and freezing winds. which I have to do soon as
>Katie and Molly ( dogs) wake up

I keep thinking I need a dog to give me the impetus to go out walking.
I'd be spoiled compared to you. However, I just don't want to tie
myself down with a dog.
I can always count on you for good advice, Lynn. Thanks.
Sue

Lynn...... you're out with this info pretty regularly.
Last time I searched this group for "You: The Owner's Manual", I saw
you recommending it way back when.
Is that where this info comes from?
I bought it via Cindy's recommendation but, like a good addict,
haven't read it.

"Sue" <sebrady@thegrid.net> wrote in message
news:7fvmo3latvgu8m9prb0456588uq0neimhp@4ax.com...
> I was one of those people who could eat anything and as much as I
> wanted and stay skinny. What a damn bitch to get old (yes, I am).

I always hated people like you : >)

> I've just recently learned all of that.

and you added in somw weight training eh? before the only weight training
you get is lifting your butt off the couch ( counts as a crunch you know
>> one other thing take your vitamin C (with your vitamin D might be enough
>>with the multi and where you live in Calf) and all purpose multi Vitamin
>
> I take my Centrum multi-vitamin every day and I've added extra lutein
> (macular degeneration runs in the family) and I also now take some
> Omega 3 pill.

Good! and now add in more vitamin C and a multi B ( or at least 2 orange
veggies and a dark green one)


> I keep thinking I need a dog to give me the impetus to go out walking.
> I'd be spoiled compared to you. However, I just don't want to tie
> myself down with a dog.
> I can always count on you for good advice, Lynn. Thanks.
> Sue
>
you could always borrow a dog, or person to walk with. tell them they are
getting a big butt and you will help them for free
thanks Sue my advice isn't always good but it doesn't stop me from giving it
--
Lynn VOF Leaper
"Everyone seems normal until you get to know them."

Most of it but not all.
when I quit I found out I was low in B-12 and had to get a month shot then I
started taking a daily dose ( actually 1 pill cut in half twice a day
because of absorbion) and it got better but I lasped and got slowly wore
down again . Iwas exausted by 10 am and having a nap! sometimes twice a day!
Kita ( maybe Joy) posted about how smokers nonsmokers and mulit B vitamins
so I added that in and went looking for some natural food addictives for
B-12 as well after looking I took the vitamin again
Yes " you an owners manual" and made jot notes for what I needed. great
book read it!!!!

smoking depletes the B's .some to a point where it is hard to catch up and
we only notice it until after quitting.( B-12 is fat sol and being low can
make a person anemic. shown through a blood test because B-12 keeps adding
up)

I have my cheat sheet here ..somewhere in my desk ( the book was a library
book) but mostly I just say what I take and google what I don't know. some I
hear on tv like the vitamin D, some from word of mouth my people I trust

the multi vitamin, the multiB ,the B-12, vit D,Calium, Vit E (enterally as
well on my hands) I also take kelp, asprins when I remember, what else?... I
forget maybe I need ginko? hahaha
--
Lynn VOF Leaper
"Everyone seems normal until you get to know them."



"DavidL" <Dvd716@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:a5f29ac1-58d5-484c-921c-a68895ab29b5@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Lynn...... you're out with this info pretty regularly.
> Last time I searched this group for "You: The Owner's Manual", I saw
> you recommending it way back when.
> Is that where this info comes from?
> I bought it via Cindy's recommendation but, like a good addict,
> haven't read it.

Last time I searched this group for "You: The Owner's Manual", I saw
>> you recommending it way back when

Who wrote this book?

Cindy
One week, six days, 18 hours, 49 minutes and 27 seconds. 275 cigarettes not
smoked, saving $62.03. Life saved: 22 hours, 55 minutes.







"Lynn" <lynn.scott@ns.spammenotsympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:478be656$0$4068$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...
> Most of it but not all.
> when I quit I found out I was low in B-12 and had to get a month shot then
> I started taking a daily dose ( actually 1 pill cut in half twice a day
> because of absorbion) and it got better but I lasped and got slowly wore
> down again . Iwas exausted by 10 am and having a nap! sometimes twice a
> day!
> Kita ( maybe Joy) posted about how smokers nonsmokers and mulit B vitamins
> so I added that in and went looking for some natural food addictives for
> B-12 as well after looking I took the vitamin again
> Yes " you an owners manual" and made jot notes for what I needed. great
> book read it!!!!
>
> smoking depletes the B's .some to a point where it is hard to catch up and
> we only notice it until after quitting.( B-12 is fat sol and being low can
> make a person anemic. shown through a blood test because B-12 keeps adding
> up)
>
> I have my cheat sheet here ..somewhere in my desk ( the book was a library
> book) but mostly I just say what I take and google what I don't know. some
> I hear on tv like the vitamin D, some from word of mouth my people I trust
>
> the multi vitamin, the multiB ,the B-12, vit D,Calium, Vit E (enterally as
> well on my hands) I also take kelp, asprins when I remember, what else?...
> I forget maybe I need ginko? hahaha
> --
> Lynn VOF Leaper
> "Everyone seems normal until you get to know them."
>
>
>
> "DavidL" <Dvd716@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:a5f29ac1-58d5-484c-921c-a68895ab29b5@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> Lynn...... you're out with this info pretty regularly.
>> Last time I searched this group for "You: The Owner's Manual", I saw
>> you recommending it way back when.
>> Is that where this info comes from?
>> I bought it via Cindy's recommendation but, like a good addict,
>> haven't read it.
>
>

On Jan 14, 6:49*pm, "Cindy" <crog...@maine.rr.com> wrote:
> Last time I searched this group for "You: The Owner's Manual", I saw
>
> >> you recommending it way back when
>
> Who wrote this book?
>
> Cindy
> One week, six days, 18 hours, 49 minutes and 27 seconds. 275 cigarettes not
> smoked, saving $62.03. Life saved: 22 hours, 55 minutes.
>
> "Lynn" <lynn.sc...@ns.spammenotsympatico.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:478be656$0$4068$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...
>
>
>
> > Most of it but not all.
> > when I quit I found out I was low in B-12 and had to get a month shot then
> > I started taking a daily dose ( actually 1 pill cut in half twice a day
> > because of absorbion) and it got better but I lasped and got slowly wore
> > down again . Iwas exausted by 10 am and having a nap! sometimes twice a
> > day!
> > Kita ( maybe Joy) posted about how smokers nonsmokers and mulit B vitamins
> > so I added that in *and went looking *for some natural food addictives for
> > B-12 as well after looking I took the vitamin again *
> > Yes " you an owners manual" and made jot notes for what I needed. great
> > book read it!!!!
>
> > smoking depletes the B's .some to a point where it is hard to catch up and
> > we only notice it until after quitting.( B-12 is fat sol and being low can
> > make a person anemic. shown through a blood test because B-12 keeps adding
> > up)
>
> > I have my cheat sheet here ..somewhere in my desk ( the book was a library
> > book) but mostly I just say what I take and google what I don't know. some
> > I hear on tv like the vitamin D, some from word of mouth my people I trust
>
> > the multi vitamin, the multiB ,the B-12, vit D,Calium, Vit E (enterally as
> > well on my hands) I also take kelp, asprins when I remember, what else?....
> > I forget maybe I need ginko? hahaha
> > --
> > Lynn VOF Leaper
> > "Everyone seems normal until you get to know them."
>
> > "DavidL" <Dvd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:a5f29ac1-58d5-484c-921c-a68895ab29b5@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> >> Lynn...... you're out with this info pretty regularly.
> >> Last time I searched this group for "You: The Owner's Manual", I saw
> >> you recommending it way back when.
> >> Is that where this info comes from?
> >> I bought it via Cindy's recommendation but, like a good addict,
> >> haven't read it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


If it's the same book I'm thinking of its by Roizen & Oz

Thanks Karen

Cindy
One week, six days, 19 hours, 45 minutes and 48 seconds. 276 cigarettes not
smoked, saving $62.20. Life saved: 23 hours, 0 minutes.

"Karen" <sendkaren@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d464d15e-5ae6-45ae-a656-e8c0736e54b3@v29g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 14, 6:49 pm, "Cindy" <crog...@maine.rr.com> wrote:
> Last time I searched this group for "You: The Owner's Manual", I saw
>
> >> you recommending it way back when
>
> Who wrote this book?
>
> Cindy
> One week, six days, 18 hours, 49 minutes and 27 seconds. 275 cigarettes
> not
> smoked, saving $62.03. Life saved: 22 hours, 55 minutes.
>
> "Lynn" <lynn.sc...@ns.spammenotsympatico.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:478be656$0$4068$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...
>
>
>
> > Most of it but not all.
> > when I quit I found out I was low in B-12 and had to get a month shot
> > then
> > I started taking a daily dose ( actually 1 pill cut in half twice a day
> > because of absorbion) and it got better but I lasped and got slowly wore
> > down again . Iwas exausted by 10 am and having a nap! sometimes twice a
> > day!
> > Kita ( maybe Joy) posted about how smokers nonsmokers and mulit B
> > vitamins
> > so I added that in and went looking for some natural food addictives for
> > B-12 as well after looking I took the vitamin again
> > Yes " you an owners manual" and made jot notes for what I needed. great
> > book read it!!!!
>
> > smoking depletes the B's .some to a point where it is hard to catch up
> > and
> > we only notice it until after quitting.( B-12 is fat sol and being low
> > can
> > make a person anemic. shown through a blood test because B-12 keeps
> > adding
> > up)
>
> > I have my cheat sheet here ..somewhere in my desk ( the book was a
> > library
> > book) but mostly I just say what I take and google what I don't know.
> > some
> > I hear on tv like the vitamin D, some from word of mouth my people I
> > trust
>
> > the multi vitamin, the multiB ,the B-12, vit D,Calium, Vit E (enterally
> > as
> > well on my hands) I also take kelp, asprins when I remember, what
> > else?...
> > I forget maybe I need ginko? hahaha
> > --
> > Lynn VOF Leaper
> > "Everyone seems normal until you get to know them."
>
> > "DavidL" <Dvd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:a5f29ac1-58d5-484c-921c-a68895ab29b5@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> >> Lynn...... you're out with this info pretty regularly.
> >> Last time I searched this group for "You: The Owner's Manual", I saw
> >> you recommending it way back when.
> >> Is that where this info comes from?
> >> I bought it via Cindy's recommendation but, like a good addict,
> >> haven't read it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


If it's the same book I'm thinking of its by Roizen & Oz

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:45:55 -0500, "Cindy" <crog234@maine.rr.com>
wrote:

>Thanks Karen
>
>Cindy
>One week, six days, 19 hours, 45 minutes and 48 seconds. 276 cigarettes not
>smoked, saving $62.20. Life saved: 23 hours, 0 minutes.
>
>"Karen" <sendkaren@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:d464d15e-5ae6-45ae-a656-e8c0736e54b3@v29g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>On Jan 14, 6:49 pm, "Cindy" <crog...@maine.rr.com> wrote:
>> Last time I searched this group for "You: The Owner's Manual", I saw
>>
>> >> you recommending it way back when
>>
>> Who wrote this book?

>
>If it's the same book I'm thinking of its by Roizen & Oz

I've seen it at <cringe> Wal*Mart.
Sue

>