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Old 05-08-2008, 02:32 PM
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Hey! Was thinking about you! I hope all is well.
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:33 PM
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"msmomo2u" <suzmthompson@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Hey! Was thinking about you! I hope all is well.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunderland

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Four months, one week, four days, 9 hs, 10 mins & 56 secs. 1600 cigarettes
not smoked, saving £360.02. Life saved: 5 days, 13 hours, 20 minutes. Going
all the way this time.


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Old 05-08-2008, 10:33 PM
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On May 8, 2:09 pm, msmomo2u <suzmthomp...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hey! Was thinking about you! I hope all is well.


O, MoMoMo.
Thanks for remembering me. I keep remembering all of you daily. Infact
I do check out all your posts daily. But I am ashamed to say that I am
not getting the will to get back to smobriety. I have tried many many
times since my relapse but somehow am failing. My personal life is in
shatters and am facing a possible divorce. This and a few other major
problems is acting as a big barrier to my smobiety. I guess this is
only an excuse. Last time when I was smober for 21 days it was so
easy. Infact I did it cold turkey. That is what gave me the confidence
that if I can do it once I can always repeat it and that very thought
led to the relapse. I feel stupid that I make a very brave post and
within 24 hours chicken out. Infact my consumption of cigerettes has
increased since my relapse. I guess it is due to guilt. Now I am
forced to take a very strong decision about my marriage. But I am
feeling guilty there also because I do not want to spoil a girl's
life. My in-laws are the major problem centres here. But if my wife is
going to listen to them and create problems there is nothing I can do
and that too when I am sober from alcohol for the past 2 years. I
think it is stupid discussing all this in this forum. But now ciggies
are my only pal and I am finding it difficult to let go. In any case
can someone help me find a job in U.S, U.k, Australia etc. It is not
that I do not like my country. But I do not like my in-laws and this
is the only way to be away from them. I check out the quit Buddies
site and feel totally stupid. I was so enthusiastic about my earlier
quit. And I do see check out your cute photo MoMoMo, that makes my
day. In any case are you married? In case I have to remarry. That will
be a good opportunity to relocate to the U.S. I am trying to make yet
another attempt on saturday, that being weekend. But the enthusiasm is
only 50%. The relapse was a big mistake.
And Mike, Marvin and all , I do remember you all.
Love.
Sunder.
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:08 AM
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Thanks Sunder for taking the time to write. Yes it stinks to have relapsed but you
know that better than any of us. I am sorry about your pending divorce; only you can
decide what you're going to do about that. I can tell you that stopping smoking is
the single best thing you can do for yourself to improve your self image. Also, I
stopped during the middle (or rather, the onset) of a separation, talk about lonliness
and without support except for this group. So you know that too, I'm sorry.



Sunder <sunder.rangarajan@gmail.com> penned.wrote.stated:
: On May 8, 2:09 pm, msmomo2u <suzmthomp...@comcast.net> wrote:
:> Hey! Was thinking about you! I hope all is well.

: O, MoMoMo.
: Thanks for remembering me. I keep remembering all of you daily. Infact
: I do check out all your posts daily. But I am ashamed to say that I am
: not getting the will to get back to smobriety. I have tried many many
: times since my relapse but somehow am failing. My personal life is in
: shatters and am facing a possible divorce. This and a few other major
: problems is acting as a big barrier to my smobiety. I guess this is
: only an excuse. Last time when I was smober for 21 days it was so
: easy. Infact I did it cold turkey. That is what gave me the confidence
: that if I can do it once I can always repeat it and that very thought
: led to the relapse. I feel stupid that I make a very brave post and
: within 24 hours chicken out. Infact my consumption of cigerettes has
: increased since my relapse. I guess it is due to guilt. Now I am
: forced to take a very strong decision about my marriage. But I am
: feeling guilty there also because I do not want to spoil a girl's
: life. My in-laws are the major problem centres here. But if my wife is
: going to listen to them and create problems there is nothing I can do
: and that too when I am sober from alcohol for the past 2 years. I
: think it is stupid discussing all this in this forum. But now ciggies
: are my only pal and I am finding it difficult to let go. In any case
: can someone help me find a job in U.S, U.k, Australia etc. It is not
: that I do not like my country. But I do not like my in-laws and this
: is the only way to be away from them. I check out the quit Buddies
: site and feel totally stupid. I was so enthusiastic about my earlier
: quit. And I do see check out your cute photo MoMoMo, that makes my
: day. In any case are you married? In case I have to remarry. That will
: be a good opportunity to relocate to the U.S. I am trying to make yet
: another attempt on saturday, that being weekend. But the enthusiasm is
: only 50%. The relapse was a big mistake.
: And Mike, Marvin and all , I do remember you all.
: Love.
: Sunder.
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:08 AM
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"Sunder" <sunder.rangarajan@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On May 8, 2:09 pm, msmomo2u <suzmthomp...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Hey! Was thinking about you! I hope all is well.

>
> O, MoMoMo.
> Thanks for remembering me. I keep remembering all of you daily. Infact
> I do check out all your posts daily. But I am ashamed to say that I am
> not getting the will to get back to smobriety. I have tried many many
> times since my relapse but somehow am failing. My personal life is in
> shatters and am facing a possible divorce. This and a few other major
> problems is acting as a big barrier to my smobiety. I guess this is
> only an excuse. Last time when I was smober for 21 days it was so
> easy. Infact I did it cold turkey. That is what gave me the confidence
> that if I can do it once I can always repeat it and that very thought
> led to the relapse.


That is sooooo common. I've done it myself. One time I quit with patches,
and it was so easy I let myself relapse seven months later, expecting an
easy re-quit. As it turned out, the next time I tried patches, my skin was
too sensitive to stand them -- they left burn marks. So there I was, stuck
with an unpleasant, expensive cigarette addiction for a considerable time
until I finally got my act together enough to quit.

Isn't it so typical of the trickiness of addiction that an easy quit can
lead to overconfidence, which in turn leads to relapse, which in turn leads
to addiction? Every quit is different, even for the same person at
different times in their lives.

I'm so sorry you're going through such a bad time personally. On the one
hand, a person could think, "Now is not a good time to quit. I'll wait
until things are going better." On the other hand, a person could think,
"With my life going to hell in a bucket, at least there's one thing I'm
going to accomplish and take pride in: quitting cigarettes." Only you can
decide where you are, and which choice of attitude is available to you. But
if there is one freedom we have, IMHO, it is freedom of attitude.


> I feel stupid that I make a very brave post and
> within 24 hours chicken out. Infact my consumption of cigerettes has
> increased since my relapse.


Again, that is something I've experienced personally and have seen time and
time again here at this newsgroup. You're not alone, Sunder. And there's
nothing "stupid" about it. Being the most brilliant person on the planet
won't stave off an addiction. What *is* *smart* is for you to come here,
and read and post and stay in the game -- the quitting game.

> I guess it is due to guilt. Now I am
> forced to take a very strong decision about my marriage. But I am
> feeling guilty there also because I do not want to spoil a girl's
> life. My in-laws are the major problem centres here. But if my wife is
> going to listen to them and create problems there is nothing I can do
> and that too when I am sober from alcohol for the past 2 years. I
> think it is stupid discussing all this in this forum.


Not "stupid" at all. As Stephanie recently explained to some half-witted
professor of hers who claimed there was no "community" on the Internet,
smoking is tied up with our whole emotional, professional, personal lives --
cigarettes are a smoker's way of dealing with everything. I've been here
for over eight years now, and believe me, I do not have enough fingers and
toes to count the number of marital- or other life-crises people (including
myself, on several occasions) have shared here in an effort to save . their.
own. lives -- by quitting. As3 is all about sharing the wild and personal
viscissitudes of our lives, when that's what it takes to quit and stay quit.

Lay it on us, Sunder. You're not alone.

> But now ciggies
> are my only pal


Nonsense! That's "junkie thinking." There is no problem you could tell us
that wouldn't be made worse by smoking. But we can all relate. We've all
been through periods in our lives when we regarded cigarettes as our
buddies. Check this out: http://quitbuddies.org/20Buddies.html


> and I am finding it difficult to let go. In any case
> can someone help me find a job in U.S, U.k, Australia etc. It is not
> that I do not like my country. But I do not like my in-laws and this
> is the only way to be away from them. I check out the quit Buddies
> site and feel totally stupid. I was so enthusiastic about my earlier
> quit. And I do see check out your cute photo MoMoMo, that makes my
> day. In any case are you married? In case I have to remarry. That will
> be a good opportunity to relocate to the U.S. I am trying to make yet
> another attempt on saturday, that being weekend. But the enthusiasm is
> only 50%. The relapse was a big mistake.


Sorry, you have to quit smoking before you can come on to any of the babes
here at as3. :-D Them's the rules. Or mine, anyway. Actually, I just
made that up. But you see my point . . . .

> And Mike, Marvin and all , I do remember you all.
> Love.
> Sunder.


We love you, too, Sunder. We're here when you're ready. Feel free to keep
posting your thoughts in the meantime -- maybe we can help you get ready.

ep oooooooof


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Old 05-09-2008, 01:09 AM
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Sunder, you can do this, keep posting, everyday you read this place, your
surrounding
yourself with non smokers, many ppl have have
tried...........trired....tried and succeeded in quitting,
this place is *so* positive for quitting, thats why your reading

no, not everyone posts everyday, u did 21 days free, thats awesome, and no
your not stupid,
we all got triggers for reaching for a cigarette rather than dealing with
things..........

so i really hope you can post a meter soon, if its minutes,secnds or hours,
just post it

i always say, it takes courage to post a busted quit, but just think how
proud you will be
when your posting HOF,

stay cool

Matt.

..


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Old 05-09-2008, 03:07 AM
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Sunder! I am glad to read that you are still here with us but sorry
to read of your current plight. Just realize though that smoking does
not solve any of those problems and make you feel bad that you went
back to them even more so. I think Edna Pearl's wisdom is enough so
I'm not going to try to say it again in different words. Just do know
that we really are a community and we do share and listen to much more
than our smobriety tales. Smoking is pervasive in our lives and
learning to live with them is an ongoing challenge.

FlatironMike
One year, two months, three weeks, six days, 21 hours, 46 minutes and
30 seconds. 9058 cigarettes not smoked, saving $2,717.19. Life saved:
4 weeks, 3 days, 10 hours, 50 minutes.
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Old 05-09-2008, 07:31 AM
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On May 8, 5:21*pm, Sunder <sunder.rangara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 8, 2:09 pm, msmomo2u <suzmthomp...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Hey! Was thinking about you! I hope all is well.

>
> O, MoMoMo.
> Thanks for remembering me. I keep remembering all of you daily. Infact
> I do check out all your posts daily. But I am ashamed to say that I am
> not getting the will to get back to smobriety. I have tried many many
> times since my relapse but somehow am failing. My personal life is in
> shatters and am facing a possible divorce. This and a few other major
> problems is acting as a big barrier to my smobiety. I guess this is
> only an excuse. Last time when I was smober for 21 days it was so
> easy. Infact I did it cold turkey. That is what gave me the confidence
> that if I can do it once I can always repeat it and that very thought
> led to the relapse. I feel stupid that I make a very brave post and
> within 24 hours chicken out. Infact my consumption of cigerettes has
> increased since my relapse. I guess it is due to guilt. Now I am
> forced to take a very strong decision about my marriage. But I am
> feeling guilty there also because I do not want to spoil a girl's
> life. My in-laws are the major problem centres here. But if my wife is
> going to listen to them and create problems there is nothing I can do
> and that too when I am sober from alcohol for the past 2 years. I
> think it is stupid discussing all this in this forum. But now ciggies
> are my only pal and I am finding it difficult to let go. In any case
> can someone help me find a job in U.S, U.k, Australia etc. It is not
> that I do not like my country. But I do not like my in-laws and this
> is the only way to be away from them. I check out the quit Buddies
> site and feel totally stupid. I was so enthusiastic about my earlier
> quit. And I do see check out your cute photo MoMoMo, that makes my
> day. In any case are you married? In case I have to remarry. That will
> be a good opportunity to relocate to the U.S. I am trying to make yet
> another attempt on saturday, that being weekend. But the enthusiasm is
> only 50%. The relapse was a big mistake.
> And Mike, Marvin and all , I do remember you all.
> Love.
> Sunder.


Sunder!

I'll second Edna's advice -- I know it's a tough time right now for
you, but if there's one thing you can get going and take great pride
in and share here always with us is your quit. Your 21 days were
awesome. And don't regret the slip -- Life's a learning experience,
that's what keeps it interesting.

Keep posting too -- and reading.

Cheers & Man-Hugs,
Marvin
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Old 05-09-2008, 05:33 PM
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Oh Sunder, I am so sorry to hear about the difficulty you are going
through right now. Do not be hard on yourself for blowing that quit
you had going. We are always here to support you when you are ready to
give it a go again. In the meantime, please know you are in my
positive thoughts and thank you for responding and being so honest.

My best,
Suzie

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