Women's monthly cycle and giving up smoking

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7355353.stm

Tim of TG08s
Three months, three weeks, four days, 9 hs, 27 mins & 37 secs. 1396
cigarettes not smoked, saving £314.26. Life saved: 4 days, 20 hours, 20
minutes. Going all the way this time.

>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7355353.stm

Sounds like a lot of crap to me. If quitting the nicotine
habit/addiction was only a 2 week process I might think differently. I
think this just gives some women a handy excuse to fail.

--
BessieBee
"Why isn't the number 11 pronounced onety-one?"

Yeah... it was only after I quit smoking that I discovered PMS is real.
Thankfully I made it through without the cigs.
With hope and heart,
Kathleen



> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7355353.stm
>
> Tim of TG08s
> Three months, three weeks, four days, 9 hs, 27 mins & 37 secs. 1396
> cigarettes not smoked, saving £314.26. Life saved: 4 days, 20 hours, 20
> minutes. Going all the way this time.
>
>

Having been married three times and fathering two daughters, I could
have told ya PMS is real Kathleen <grins & ducks>


---
Wayne Baker
Cold Turkey Quit Date: August 4, 2007
Nicotine Free: 8M 2w 3d 23h 51m
Not Smoked: 7,597
Money Better Spent: $1,253.51




"Kathleen" <lovebirds1201@hotmail.com> wrote in news:67676tF2nb189U1
@mid.individual.net:

> Yeah... it was only after I quit smoking that I discovered PMS is
real.
> Thankfully I made it through without the cigs.
> With hope and heart,
> Kathleen
>
>
>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7355353.stm
>>
>> Tim of TG08s
>> Three months, three weeks, four days, 9 hs, 27 mins & 37 secs. 1396
>> cigarettes not smoked, saving £314.26. Life saved: 4 days, 20
hours, 20
>> minutes. Going all the way this time.
>>
>>
>
>

On Apr 22, 10:11*am, Wayne <nospamloansarran...@cox.net> wrote:
> Having been married three times and fathering two daughters, I could
> have told ya PMS is real Kathleen <grins & ducks>
>
> ---
> Wayne *Baker
> Cold Turkey Quit Date: *August 4, 2007
> Nicotine Free: *8M 2w 3d 23h 51m
> Not Smoked: *7,597
> Money Better Spent: *$1,253.51
>
> "Kathleen" <lovebirds1...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:67676tF2nb189U1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Yeah... *it was only after I quit smoking that I discovered PMS is
> real.
> > Thankfully I made it through without the cigs.
> > With hope and heart,
> > Kathleen
>
> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7355353.stm
>
> >> Tim of TG08s
> >> Three months, three weeks, four days, 9 hs, 27 mins & 37 secs. 1396
> >> cigarettes not smoked, saving £314.26. Life saved: 4 days, 20
> hours, 20
> >> minutes. Going all the way this time.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Now Wayne.... .that surprises me.
Are you still married to #3?

Funny how, until we experience something for ourselves, it is easily
scorned.
What does AA call that? some catchy phrase "comtempt prior to
investigation".

I once pooh-poohed sleep medication. I actually said out loud "No one ever
died from lack of sleep". Can you believe that? Roserum changed my life!
I took it for 1 month, a non-narcotic, and my what a difference a full night
of sleep can make.

With hope and heart,
Kathleen



"Wayne" <nospamloansarranger@cox.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9A8871EF33D22dloansarrangercoxnet@69.28.18 6.120...
> Having been married three times and fathering two daughters, I could
> have told ya PMS is real Kathleen <grins & ducks>
>
>
> ---
> Wayne Baker
> Cold Turkey Quit Date: August 4, 2007
> Nicotine Free: 8M 2w 3d 23h 51m
> Not Smoked: 7,597
> Money Better Spent: $1,253.51
>
>
>
>
> "Kathleen" <lovebirds1201@hotmail.com> wrote in news:67676tF2nb189U1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>> Yeah... it was only after I quit smoking that I discovered PMS is
> real.
>> Thankfully I made it through without the cigs.
>> With hope and heart,
>> Kathleen
>>
>>
>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7355353.stm
>>>
>>> Tim of TG08s
>>> Three months, three weeks, four days, 9 hs, 27 mins & 37 secs. 1396
>>> cigarettes not smoked, saving £314.26. Life saved: 4 days, 20
> hours, 20
>>> minutes. Going all the way this time.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

I think that for some women there's a very real link between hormones
and mood/sleep/headache & pain/metabolic problems. So it figures that
when hormone levels change (especially progesterone, I'd guess, which
does drop before a period) then you're more vulnerable to the
depressive feelings that a quit can stir up too. So that wouldn't be a
good time to try and quit. I know it was like that for me - I was very
weepy before my periods and the whole world looked very bleak to me.
Thankfully I neither have to endure the hormonal cycles (certainly not
to that extent, since I'm now early menopausal at age 42) nor the
filthy cigs. I have been on anti-depressants, and now and then
sleeping tablets, as well as HRT (hormone replacement therapy) for the
past 2 to 3 years. I've been doing a lot of reading about hormones
though, and as of June I will try coming off the HRT and going onto
more natural stuff. I've also cut back my antidepressant dose with a
view to possibly coming off those too. Sleep stuff is something I use
intermittently. But I for one can understadn why this research found
that women who try to quit before a period may have a harder time of
it. All it says is that one should rather try post-period, if hormones
are an issue for oneself.

SueR
Three months, three weeks, five days, 12 hours, 2 minutes and 49
seconds. 470 cigarettes not smoked, saving R 470.01. Life saved: 1
day, 15 hours, 10 minutes.


On Apr 22, 12:27*am, "Tim W" <tim.whittinghamn...@mtavirgin.net>
wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7355353.stm
>
> Tim of TG08s
> Three months, three weeks, four days, 9 hs, 27 mins & 37 secs. 1396
> cigarettes not smoked, saving £314.26. Life saved: 4 days, 20 hours, 20
> minutes. Going all the way this time.

SueR wrote:
> I think that for some women there's a very real link between hormones
> and mood/sleep/headache & pain/metabolic problems. So it figures that
> when hormone levels change (especially progesterone, I'd guess, which
> does drop before a period) then you're more vulnerable to the
> depressive feelings that a quit can stir up too. So that wouldn't be a
> good time to try and quit. I know it was like that for me - I was very
> weepy before my periods and the whole world looked very bleak to me.
> Thankfully I neither have to endure the hormonal cycles (certainly not
> to that extent, since I'm now early menopausal at age 42) nor the
> filthy cigs. I have been on anti-depressants, and now and then
> sleeping tablets, as well as HRT (hormone replacement therapy) for the
> past 2 to 3 years. I've been doing a lot of reading about hormones
> though, and as of June I will try coming off the HRT and going onto
> more natural stuff. I've also cut back my antidepressant dose with a
> view to possibly coming off those too. Sleep stuff is something I use
> intermittently. But I for one can understadn why this research found
> that women who try to quit before a period may have a harder time of
> it. All it says is that one should rather try post-period, if hormones
> are an issue for oneself.
>
> SueR
> Three months, three weeks, five days, 12 hours, 2 minutes and 49
> seconds. 470 cigarettes not smoked, saving R 470.01. Life saved: 1
> day, 15 hours, 10 minutes.
>
>
> On Apr 22, 12:27 am, "Tim W" <tim.whittinghamn...@mtavirgin.net>
> wrote:
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7355353.stm
>>
>> Tim of TG08s
>> Three months, three weeks, four days, 9 hs, 27 mins & 37 secs. 1396
>> cigarettes not smoked, saving £314.26. Life saved: 4 days, 20 hours, 20
>> minutes. Going all the way this time.
>
I agree whole-heartedly. I'm pretty hormonal as well.... I become
EXTREMELY depressed at that part of my cycle. And I absolutely CANNOT
sleep. I will lie awake for HOURS trying to -- WIDE awake. EXHAUSTED
WIDE AWAKE. And really grouchy. Under normal circumstances, when I
can't sleep, one benadryl will make me sleepy. Two will knock me out
cold. During the day or two before my period, two benadryl might as
well be two lumps of sugar. I literally feel like I've drunk two pots
of coffee. I'm jittery, crabby, anxious, weepy, and hungry for any kind
of comfort food I can get my hands on. I can't imagine adding the
suffering of a brand new quit to that mix.

Cindy
Smobriety comes to: 1Y 3M 2W 2D 19H 32Mns $-Saved to date: $1863.58
Cigs not smoked: 9436

On Apr 23, 9:55*am, Wayne <nospamloansarran...@cox.net> wrote:
> DavidL <Dvd...@gmail.com> wrote in news:b31d1057-cb17-4a50-8d93-
> ca2f2c66e...@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Now Wayne.... .that surprises me.
> > Are you still married to #3?
>
> Yes...celebrating 15 years on May 23rd.
>
> Wife #2 was 19 years.
>
> Wife #1 wasn't legal (she forgot to tell me she was married when we
> got "married") but lasted 5 years anyway
>
> So I've been sorta married for about 39 years when all are added.
> I am my wife's 2nd hubby (she was married 17 years to her ex - an Army
> chaplian).
>
> Both of us agree we're too old to ever do it again and couldn't afford
> to anyway....so this should be it.
>
> Now you know far more than you wanted to know about that
> subject...lol.
>
> ---
> Wayne *Baker
> Cold Turkey Quit Date: *August 4, 2007
> Nicotine Free: *8M 2w 4d 23h 35m
> Not Smoked: *7,626
> Money Better Spent: *$1,258.29

No, I asked 'cause I was looking to learn something.
But, now I don't know if that's encouraging or discouraging.

DavidL <Dvd716@gmail.com> wrote in news:b31d1057-cb17-4a50-8d93-
ca2f2c66e928@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Now Wayne.... .that surprises me.
> Are you still married to #3?

Yes...celebrating 15 years on May 23rd.

Wife #2 was 19 years.

Wife #1 wasn't legal (she forgot to tell me she was married when we
got "married") but lasted 5 years anyway

So I've been sorta married for about 39 years when all are added.
I am my wife's 2nd hubby (she was married 17 years to her ex - an Army
chaplian).

Both of us agree we're too old to ever do it again and couldn't afford
to anyway....so this should be it.

Now you know far more than you wanted to know about that
subject...lol.


---
Wayne Baker
Cold Turkey Quit Date: August 4, 2007
Nicotine Free: 8M 2w 4d 23h 35m
Not Smoked: 7,626
Money Better Spent: $1,258.29

Dunno what you're looking to learn, but I could add that each marriage
has been better than the previous and I'm very content, happy, and in
love with my wife. Can't think of anyone else I'd rather share the
remainder of my life with.

Wayne


DavidL <Dvd716@gmail.com> wrote in news:45a846d4-b8ca-4760-b8f3-
5c5b086a753a@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:

> On Apr 23, 9:55*am, Wayne <nospamloansarran...@cox.net> wrote:
>> DavidL <Dvd...@gmail.com> wrote in news:b31d1057-cb17-4a50-8d93-
>> ca2f2c66e...@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > Now Wayne.... .that surprises me.
>> > Are you still married to #3?
>>
>> Yes...celebrating 15 years on May 23rd.
>>
>> Wife #2 was 19 years.
>>
>> Wife #1 wasn't legal (she forgot to tell me she was married when we
>> got "married") but lasted 5 years anyway
>>
>> So I've been sorta married for about 39 years when all are added.
>> I am my wife's 2nd hubby (she was married 17 years to her ex - an
Army
>> chaplian).
>>
>> Both of us agree we're too old to ever do it again and couldn't
afford
>> to anyway....so this should be it.
>>
>> Now you know far more than you wanted to know about that
>> subject...lol.
>>
>> ---
>> Wayne *Baker
>> Cold Turkey Quit Date: *August 4, 2007
>> Nicotine Free: *8M 2w 4d 23h 35m
>> Not Smoked: *7,626
>> Money Better Spent: *$1,258.29
>
> No, I asked 'cause I was looking to learn something.
> But, now I don't know if that's encouraging or discouraging.