Amazing fluid story

I just learned a great deal more about water weight, how it feels and how it
looks. About 6 weeks ago I was put on a new blood pressure medication. It
was a beta blocker. I have asthma and beta blockers can cause breathing
problems with people with asthma, but this one was supposed to be more
specific and would not effect the lungs. I started out fine, but they needed
to increase the dosage to get my BP where they wanted it. I started to
slowly gain some weight. I just thought I was eating a bit more and did not
think too much about it. My weight kept creeping up very slowly and my
breathing was getting worse, especially when training legs etc. I just wrote
it off as my asthma acting up and I set up an appointment with my pulmonary
MD. I was up to about 190 and was holding visible water in my ankles, but
was told it was from another med I was taking and that I basically had to
live with it. What I didn't realize was that I had fluid everywhere and that
it actually looked like fat around my entire body. I know my body pretty
well and I thought it was fat. I finally got a hold of my main kidney MD who
had been on a medical leave. I also looked up the medication I was on and
saw that I could have fluid in the lungs and my entire body. They took me
off of the medication and gave me a script for some Lasix. I started on the
Lasix and my weight went from 193 to 170 in 24 hours! I went from looking
like I was gaining a bit of weight to having cross striations across my
triceps, glutes etc.. I never thought fluid could look so much like fat
before. I wish I had taken some photos as the difference in my face was like
night and day too. I guess the moral of the story is to ALWAYS question any
meds you are on and even when you think you know your body, ask questions. I
did legs today and the difference in my breathing was like night and day.

--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

"Hard Bop Drums" <I finally got a hold of my main kidney MD who
> had been on a medical leave. I also looked up the medication I was on and
> saw that I could have fluid in the lungs and my entire body. They took me
> off of the medication and gave me a script for some Lasix. I started on
the
> Lasix and my weight went from 193 to 170 in 24 hours!>>

Good for you. I missed your rants.

On Jul 6, 5:13 am, "Hard Bop Drums" <nos...@hardbopdrums.com> wrote:
> I just learned a great deal more about water weight, how it feels and how it
> looks. About 6 weeks ago I was put on a new blood pressure medication. It
> was a beta blocker. I have asthma and beta blockers can cause breathing
> problems with people with asthma, but this one was supposed to be more
> specific and would not effect the lungs. I started out fine, but they needed
> to increase the dosage to get my BP where they wanted it. I started to
> slowly gain some weight. I just thought I was eating a bit more and did not
> think too much about it. My weight kept creeping up very slowly and my
> breathing was getting worse, especially when training legs etc. I just wrote
> it off as my asthma acting up and I set up an appointment with my pulmonary
> MD. I was up to about 190 and was holding visible water in my ankles, but
> was told it was from another med I was taking and that I basically had to
> live with it. What I didn't realize was that I had fluid everywhere and that
> it actually looked like fat around my entire body. I know my body pretty
> well and I thought it was fat. I finally got a hold of my main kidney MD who
> had been on a medical leave. I also looked up the medication I was on and
> saw that I could have fluid in the lungs and my entire body. They took me
> off of the medication and gave me a script for some Lasix. I started on the
> Lasix and my weight went from 193 to 170 in 24 hours! I went from looking
> like I was gaining a bit of weight to having cross striations across my
> triceps, glutes etc.. I never thought fluid could look so much like fat
> before. I wish I had taken some photos as the difference in my face was like
> night and day too. I guess the moral of the story is to ALWAYS question any
> meds you are on and even when you think you know your body, ask questions. I
> did legs today and the difference in my breathing was like night and day.
>
> --
> Robert Schuh
> "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
> intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
> the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
> the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
> - Nietzsche
>
> http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

Hi,
I read your article. I'm from India. I'm a practicing Yoga Therapist &
a qualified Ayurvedic Acupuncturist. I also conduct the Nadi Pariksha,
the Ayurvedic Piulse Diagnosis. Modern science never has a cure for
problems, rather they always try to take care of the symptoms. I only
know about your problems as you've written it. I'm not taking any
liberties of suggesting a remedy.
the point I'm trying to stress upon is that in 90% of the cases, a
severe bronchial congestion, whether Acute or chronic is pre-judged as
Asthma. Asthma is more of a psycho-somatic disorder. The ailment later
gets related to the body as the body;s internal mechanism has started
functioning in a certain fashion.
The problems of obesity, blood pressure & bronchial congestion are
inter related.
I feel tempted to suggest you certain simple lifestyle changes. There
is no harm if you try it. Its a natural cycle of nature that you
adopt, for your body to function.
First of all, try to stop drinking water with food, drink after 1/2 a
hour.
Chew your food properly. Do not rush after your meal but rest for 10
minutes & then get on with your chores.
Do not talk or watch TV while eating. Eat slowly & relish every morsel
of food.
Do not eat between 12 pm - 2.30 pm in the afternoon
Do go to bed by 9.30 pm & get up before 6 am.
as son as you get up, drink 2 glasses of warm water with a pinch of
salt. Salt water is mildly laxative in nature, softens stools & is
also capable of dissolving the mucus that gets accumulated in the
large intestine.
Do not stay on an empty stomach for a long time, but have meals at
regular intervals.
Do not eat frequently, or in between meals. Eat once in 4 -5 hours, 5
hours once is more ideal.

Try this & let me know how you feel.

Regards & wishing you a speedy recovery,

K.RAVISHANKAR
Yoga Acharya
Nadi Vidwan

IF YOU WANT TO KEEP FIT FOR LIFE-NATURALLY WITH NO AILMENTS, CONTACT
ME.

<rudra661@> First of all, try to stop drinking water with food, drink after
1/2 a
> hour. Chew your food properly. >>

Rob's problem results from guzzling sperm and not chewing his meat because
he sucks it. You may have given the perfect diagnosis, but if Rob chews his
boyfriend's meat, the odds are Rob will be single again. As far as
cum-guzzling is concerned, maybe Rob can try to savor the flavor and slowly
suck it down.

Hard Bop Drums wrote:

> I just learned a great deal more about water weight, how it feels and how it
> looks. About 6 weeks ago I was put on a new blood pressure medication. It
> was a beta blocker. I have asthma and beta blockers can cause breathing
> problems with people with asthma, but this one was supposed to be more
> specific and would not effect the lungs. I started out fine, but they needed
> to increase the dosage to get my BP where they wanted it. I started to
> slowly gain some weight. I just thought I was eating a bit more and did not
> think too much about it. My weight kept creeping up very slowly and my
> breathing was getting worse, especially when training legs etc. I just wrote
> it off as my asthma acting up and I set up an appointment with my pulmonary
> MD. I was up to about 190 and was holding visible water in my ankles,

Robert is an example of the adage "Don't judge a book by its cover,"
being spot on. Pretty on the outside, but faced with a faulty kidney,
asthma, high blood pressure, and now water retention. My condolences.

> but was told it was from another med I was taking and that I basically had to
> live with it.

THAT's always comforting to hear. The orthopedic surgeon noted that
the MRI showed no tear in my rotator and that was that. Oh, he did say
he could dig around in there, but he'd prefer not to. I agreed, of
course. Not particularly a fan of people digging around in there.
Especially when 'there' is me! Still, it can be somewhat discouraging
- and perhaps Rob would agree - to hear a health professional say
"live with it" or simply shrug his shoulders.

"Excuse me, did you just shrug your shoulders? Is 'i dunno' a medical
term? Wtf?!"

Lots of mysteries, of course. Swollen ankles and a little shoulder
pain can wait while they discover cures for some more serious
problems, imo.

Ari, you out there?

> What I didn't realize was that I had fluid everywhere and that
> it actually looked like fat around my entire body. I know my body pretty
> well and I thought it was fat. I finally got a hold of my main kidney MD who
> had been on a medical leave.

Medical leave? Is that a vacation or is he ill, too. Wait! I did not
say ill. I meant under the weather.

> I also looked up the medication I was on and
> saw that I could have fluid in the lungs and my entire body.

A patient can be his or her own best advocate. It would be nice,
however, to rely on the expertise of your doctor, nurse, etc.
Unfortunately, people - even trained people - don't have all the
answers. And even when they think they do have the answer, well, that
answer can be wrong. I've mentioned previously the doc who saw a case
of plantar warts and called it athlete's foot. And on the other end of
the spectrum, the doctor who removes the wrong eyeball, leaving the
cancerous one or tumor-ridden one in the patient's skull: "Oh, um,
about your eye."

Note to self: KEEP WATERPROOF FAT BLACK MARKER ON PERSON AT ALL TIMES

> They took me
> off of the medication and gave me a script for some Lasix. I started on the
> Lasix and my weight went from 193 to 170 in 24 hours! I went from looking
> like I was gaining a bit of weight to having cross striations across my
> triceps, glutes etc.. I never thought fluid could look so much like fat
> before.

Really?

> I wish I had taken some photos as the difference in my face was like
> night and day too.

Right. Like you'd share the photos openly. Ha! Anyway, I'm not
surprised that water retention would make your face change. I'm almost
sure I've shared the sunburn story, where I was out in the sun from 10
to 2 (not smart, yeah) and woke up the next day with one eye swelled
shut and my forehead puffed up like a balloon. A little fluid up in
there!

But your comment earlier in your post - "I just learned a great deal
more about water weight, how it feels and how it looks," has me
puzzled, however. How did you NOT already learn about water weight?

You never encountered water retention or noticed any physical changes
in your appearance related to water retention? Were you on dialysis
and, if so, does being on dialysis impact patients differently?

I worked at a book store during college. We sold comics, bestseller
paperbacks, newspapers, childrens books, etc. Anyway, one frequent
shopper was on dialysis. He'd volunteered that information at some
point. He and his girlfriend and a buddy would shop regularly. He
disappeared for a period of time and when he returned it was like he
was a different person. Where he had a round face previously, his face
had altered incredibly, slimmed down significantly. Or more
accurately, I guess, drained. He'd gotten a kidney transplant.

I'm probably making a wrong assumption here. That the kidney
transplant changed the customer's face.

> I guess the moral of the story is to ALWAYS question any
> meds you are on and even when you think you know your body, ask questions. I
> did legs today and the difference in my breathing was like night and day.

Good. Glad to read that.

--
Curt

On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 10:11:04 -0400, "Sammy Sanders"
<sammysanders@yahoo.com> wrote:

><rudra661@> First of all, try to stop drinking water with food, drink after
>1/2 a
>> hour. Chew your food properly. >>
>
>Rob's problem results from guzzling sperm and not chewing his meat because
>he sucks it. You may have given the perfect diagnosis, but if Rob chews his
>boyfriend's meat, the odds are Rob will be single again. As far as
>cum-guzzling is concerned, maybe Rob can try to savor the flavor and slowly
>suck it down.
>

This is not very Rose-like, Straight Arrow. It's more Prickly
Flower-ish.

d wells wrote:
-=snip!=-

> This is not very Rose-like, Straight Arrow. It's more Prickly
> Flower-ish.

I've often wished for that magic calculator/answer machine.

The one that can tell you exactly how long you've cumulatively stood
in line. Or how many times you've flushed the toilet during your
lifetime. You know, the important questions.

Anyway, if I had that imaginary answer machine, I'd ask it where and
when the term "[expletive deleted]-guzzling" first appeared in print.
I doubt it was the Farmer's Almanac.

http://www.almanac.com/

--
Curt

"d wells" <> This is not very Rose-like, Straight Arrow. It's more Prickly
> Flower-ish.>

If I were a flower, it would be Deathshade, not a Rose. But I prefer to be a
yam. Hairy, dirt-covered bumpy skin around a thick root that is bland but
provides lots of starch when cooked and eaten.

"Curt" <if I had that imaginary answer machine, I'd ask it where and when
the term "[expletive deleted]-guzzling" first appeared in print. I doubt it
was the Farmer's Almanac.
>

How low the mighty have fallen. Curt, the second best of the trolls is now a
regular Miss Manners. Did D Wells send you some personal message threatening
to call your School Board?? What happened Curt? Being kindler and gentler is
one thing, but becoming totally emasculated and a shadow of your former self
is creepy.

The fact that you even read the Farmer's Almanac is scary.

Sammy Sanders wrote:
> "Curt" <if I had that imaginary answer machine, I'd ask it where and when
> the term "[expletive deleted]-guzzling" first appeared in print. I doubt it
> was the Farmer's Almanac.
>
> How low the mighty have fallen.

What? You never wonder where schtufff originates?

> Curt, the second best

Uh, curious, who's the best?

> of the trolls

I've never agreed to the term troll. I've never entertained the idea
or concept of trolls. People post and people reply. Some people kill
file. Many argue, but it's all people poking at keys and pressing
Enter.

> is now a regular Miss Manners.

I give as good as I get (my perception anyway). What's wrong with not
swearing online?

> Did D Wells send you some personal message threatening
> to call your School Board??

Ha! Who hasn't sent me some personal message threatening to call my
School Board? Certainly it's not a poor philosophy to speak without
using curse words. Especially online or in text of any kind. Actually,
I don't see a problem with what many consider foul language. But I
also have no problem typing [expletive deleted] in its place. Some of
the time.

> What happened Curt? Being kindler and gentler is one thing,
> but becoming totally emasculated and a shadow of your
> former self is creepy.

Whatever.

> The fact that you even read the Farmer's Almanac is scary.

I don't.

Typically.

I did, however, select it as one of the least likely places to find
the aforementioned [expletive deleted] term. ;o)

--
Curt

"Curt" <> I give as good as I get (my perception anyway). What's wrong with
not
> swearing online?
>

You used to fart Thunder and crap Lightning. Entire populations of MFW
joined Yahoogroups because of you. People started other usenet groups and
some even stopped posting altogether because of you. Rob Shue's left
testicle finally dropped down thanks to you.

Now you remind me of Grandpa from from The Waltons!

"Sammy Sanders" wrote:
> "Curt" <> I give as good as I get (my perception anyway). What's wrong with
> not swearing online?
>
> You used to fart Thunder

That was my one ex-girlfriend, actually.

We found it hella funny.

> and crap Lightning.

Ya ruin more good toilets that way, I tell you!

> Entire populations of MFW joined Yahoogroups because of you.

Unbeknownst to those populations, I'm a moderator of three of those
groups. HA! So there, fleeing hordes!

> People started other usenet groups and some even stopped
> posting altogether because of you.

Yes, yes, it's not easy being me.

And I "destroyed" rec.arts.bodyart. Don't forget that bit of hilarity
and science fiction.

> Rob Shue's left testicle finally dropped down thanks to you.

Uh, I'll take your word on that part, though.

> Now you remind me of Grandpa from from

Do I make you stutter?

You needn't be intimidated. My goal is not to destroy you.

(raises eyebrow)

Yet.

> The Waltons!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Waltons

It's all good.

--
Curt

On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 12:44:58 -0400, "Sammy Sanders"
<sammysanders@yahoo.com> wrote:

>"d wells" <> This is not very Rose-like, Straight Arrow. It's more Prickly
>> Flower-ish.>
>
>If I were a flower, it would be Deathshade, not a Rose. But I prefer to be a
>yam. Hairy, dirt-covered bumpy skin around a thick root that is bland but
>provides lots of starch when cooked and eaten.
>

Straight Arrow, I served with Deathshade. I knew Deathshade.
Deathshade was a friend of mine. SA, you're no Deathshade.


But I don't think andybody is. I can't find that that's a flower
(though I could have certainly missed it). Maybe Deadly Nightshade?
How about Mistletoe ... deadly but with some festive, holiday,
overtones.

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 17:11:10 -0000, Curt <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote:

>Sammy Sanders wrote:
>> "Curt" <if I had that imaginary answer machine, I'd ask it where and when
>> the term "[expletive deleted]-guzzling" first appeared in print. I doubt it
>> was the Farmer's Almanac.
>>
>> How low the mighty have fallen.
>
>What? You never wonder where schtufff originates?
>
>> Curt, the second best
>
>Uh, curious, who's the best?
>

I seem to have missed a memo or maybe something was discussed at one
of the brick-and-mortar meetings of MFW while I was out of the room.

Is the collective membership of MFW going to refrain from interjecting
non-sensical bits of BS into threads? I think I've mentioned before
that I'm useless when it comes to fitness knowledge, guns, dogs, and
that other thing that always slips my mind, so without the nonsensical
bits of crap, I'll be sidelined.

And I really like to type!

It *seems* like it's business as usual here. Rob posted something that
was interesting to read. Jack Mehoffer referred to it as a rant. The
Yoga guy chimed in (he didn't post a blogspot link, so I wasn't able
to assess his spammerness). Johnny Cumlater called Rob a cum-guzzler.
I mentioned that that type of reference lacked a rose-like quality.
Curt wondered where cum-guzzling originated. Straight Arrow dissed
Curt's Usenet-posting skills.

So ... Rob said something with some value. Maybe the Yoga guy too (I
don't know.) The rest was just noise.

My seventh grader will sometimes tell his younger brother to 'shut
up.'

Oh shit! WhatamIdoing? I was about to compare Straight Arrow's logic
regarding why he thinks he should be allowed to post homophobic rants
about people and not get joshed back to that of middle-school children
arguing why their younger brother should have to shut up while they
run off at the mouth.

Straight Arrow, I think the rants you post are true pieces of art. I
can tell you put a lot of work into them, struggling over the choice
of every word -- "Do I want to say 'cum' or 'jizz'? 'Cum' is shorter
and easier to type. 'Jizz' has more pizzazz. Jizz! Pizzazz! They both
have pairs of 'z's ... 'jizz' would look so awesome! Wait ... the
members of MFW often have trouble with words containing more than
three letters. 'Cum' it is."

Me. I just throw crap out there. Granted, I almost used 'shit' there
instead of 'crap,' but when the crap hit the screen it stayed right
where it was (even though it would have been funnier (in an abstract
sort of way) to have rearranged things and said, 'when the shit hit
the screen.')

BTW, if you're going to rag on people you're going to have to expect
to get ragged back some. Haven't you ever been in a bar with a group
of buddies or played a group sport.

Dude. Toughen up. Grow a pair. Butch up. Take up yoga. Take up
painting -- you could do wall murals of MFWers guzzling various body
fluids. Find big heavy things and move them hither and yon. Rinse.
Repeat.

d wells wrote:
[...]

><snip>spammerness<snip>

Spammerness? Maaan, THAT is the terriblist word I ever heard.

Terriblist? Hold on. Aaagghh!

Damn you, d wells, DAMN YOU!

--
Curt

d wells wrote:
[...]

> <snip> Johnny Cumlater called Rob a cum-guzzler.

(looks at Subject line)

Hnh! Whuddyaknow? ON topic.

--
Curt

d wells wrote:
[...]

> <snip> Find big heavy things and move them
> hither and yon. Rinse. Repeat. <snip>

That would look great on a t-shirt.

Well, the hither and yon part may have to be reworked if you want your
t-shirts to fit in with the SHUT UP AND LIFT t-shirts, but, hey, other
than that, pretty catchy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...therandyon.jpg

I'd buy one.

--
Curt

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 17:09:43 -0000, Curt <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote:

>d wells wrote:
>[...]
>
>> <snip> Find big heavy things and move them
>> hither and yon. Rinse. Repeat. <snip>
>
>That would look great on a t-shirt.
>
>Well, the hither and yon part may have to be reworked if you want your
>t-shirts to fit in with the SHUT UP AND LIFT t-shirts, but, hey, other
>than that, pretty catchy.
>
>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...therandyon.jpg
>
>I'd buy one.

I wanted to put the 'lift heavy things' etc. in for David. I believe
he may be too mature to be following this thread (not that you aren't,
I know you have an obligation to read everything just in case
something funny is said. WAIT! Shouldn't David be doing the same thing
for The Putz Award?)

Where was I. That parenthetical phrase sort of made me lose track.

Anyway, I put it in there not to piss David off, just to go along with
the joke. What I'm getting at is that he should probably get 10% of
the T-shirt proceeds. You should get 10% (for being the idea man).
Straight Arrow should get 10% (for being the inspiration). I'd like
10% as well and the rest should go to the MFW general fund (for
protein bars, cookies, and what-not at the next meeting).

We'll have to get an attorney involved to look at the "Rinse. Repeat."
part. I may have seen that somewhere else ... it has a familiar ring
to it.

d wells wrote:

re http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...therandyon.jpg

> I wanted to put the 'lift heavy things' etc. in for David. I believe
> he may be too mature to be following this thread (not that you aren't,
> I know you have an obligation to read everything just in case
> something funny is said.

Yeah, THAT's my excuse. Not that I'm procrastinating completing an
assignment. Noooooo! I've got that obligation to look for funny items
in posts on Usenet. I'm going with that. Thanks.

> WAIT! Shouldn't David be doing the same thing
> for The Putz Award?)

I think he put Sameera in change of those.

> Where was I. That parenthetical phrase sort of made me lose track.
>
> Anyway, I put it in there not to piss David off, just to go along with
> the joke. What I'm getting at is that he should probably get 10% of
> the T-shirt proceeds.

I thought Jason Earl was the Lift Heavy Things guy.

> You should get 10% (for being the idea man).

It was your slogan. You can have that 10%.

> Straight Arrow should get 10% (for being the inspiration).

Oh, take his 10%, too. Go Enron on his @$$. Take it all and offer no
apologies!

> I'd like 10% as well

I'd say that puts you at 30%.

> and the rest should go to the MFW general fund (for
> protein bars, cookies, and what-not at the next meeting).

Some of that money should go to fern maintenance.

> We'll have to get an attorney involved to look at the "Rinse. Repeat."
> part. I may have seen that somewhere else ... it has a familiar ring
> to it.

I'd call Procter & Gamble first.

--
Curt

<rudra661@gmail.com> schreef:

> the point I'm trying to stress upon is that in 90% of the cases, a
> severe bronchial congestion, whether Acute or chronic is pre-judged as
> Asthma. Asthma is more of a psycho-somatic disorder. The ailment later
> gets related to the body as the body;s internal mechanism has started
> functioning in a certain fashion.

Fuck you and your yoga, you idiot.

> The problems of obesity, blood pressure & bronchial congestion are
> inter related.
> I feel tempted to suggest you certain simple lifestyle changes. There
> is no harm if you try it. Its a natural cycle of nature that you
> adopt, for your body to function.
> First of all, try to stop drinking water with food, drink after 1/2 a
> hour.
> Chew your food properly. Do not rush after your meal but rest for 10
> minutes & then get on with your chores.
> Do not talk or watch TV while eating. Eat slowly & relish every morsel
> of food.

Yeah, that will help. Robert was almost dead several times and had a quite a
bit of surgery.

Chew that food properly, Robert...

--
Pete

"Sammy Sanders" <sammysanders@yahoo.com> schreef:

> Now you remind me of Grandpa from from The Waltons!

Grandpa Walton (With the help of John-boy...) was one of the most vicious
serial killers.

Do you have any idea how easy it is to get rid of the bodies over there?

--
Pete

"Pete" <> Grandpa Walton (With the help of John-boy...) was one of the most
vicious
> serial killers. Do you have any idea how easy it is to get rid of the
bodies over there?
>

Toss them down the side of the mountain into Deliverance Lake. Grandpa
Walton always looked like he was fond of kids sitting on his lap. No doubt
what happened to John-Boy.

Pete wrote:
> rudra...@gmail schreef:
>
> > <snip> Asthma is more of a psycho-somatic disorder. <snip>
>
> Fuck you and your yoga, you idiot.

And his idea of "psycho-somatic," too. Uh, wait, yoga's not bad.

> > <snip> Do not rush after your meal but rest for 10
> > minutes & then get on with your chores.<snip>


> Yeah, that will help. Robert was almost dead several times and had a quite a
> bit of surgery.
>
> Chew that food properly, Robert...

heh )

But there's something fun about telling Robert to "get on with your
chores."

Probably the Grandpa Walton in me.

"Bert Boy! Get on with them chores!"

Or maybe Schuh Bob would be better.

--
Curt

Pete wrote:
> "Sammy Sanders" schreef:
>
> > Now you remind me of Grandpa from from The Waltons!
>
> Grandpa Walton (With the help of John-boy...) was one
> of the most vicious serial killers.

I'd peg Miss Mamie and Miss Emily as the serial killers, though.

> Do you have any idea how easy it is to get rid of the bodies
> over there?

Lots of acres on Walton's Mountain!

--
Curt

Al Fitness wrote:
> "Pete" <> Grandpa Walton (With the help of John-boy...) was one of the most
> vicious
>
> > serial killers. Do you have any idea how easy it is to get rid of the
> bodies over there?
>
> Toss them down the side of the mountain into Deliverance Lake. Grandpa
> Walton always looked like he was fond of kids sitting on his lap. No doubt
> what happened to John-Boy.

You didn't see the last John-Boy episode?

John-Boy: "Hello, Miss Mamie, how are you?"
Miss Mamie: "Would you like a taste of The Recipe?"
(Miss Emily enters room holding severed leg)
John-Boy: "THE RECIPE IS PEEEOOOPLE!!!!!"
(Miss Mamie clobbers John-Boy with shovel)

-=fade to black=-

(Narrator says, "Good night John-Boy.")

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Curt