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Old 03-24-2008, 07:48 AM
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Default Anyone get off there butt today?

It's gym day and I feel sore the old gang was all there and pumping iron, a
little dancing/singing to the oldies for it was a good workout.

Today was arms day and I can feel it arms are burning.

Old Rummy got in a little jitter bugging with the squat rack and mike sang
Missy, that seems to be one of his favor it songs, wish he would learn the
words.

Really looking forward to Wednesday, leg day. I intend to have a good sore
week and feel good about this week.

OK kids, off your duff and on the benches lets go you're half a day behind
right now.

Burr

LIFE'S A BITCH. don't vote for one

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Old 03-24-2008, 12:20 PM
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In article <13uelkcf8it6if7@corp.supernews.com>,
"Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote:

<snipped> It was Easter Sunday... and it's "Their" not "There". <g>

No, I made sure my Nephews had some nice Easter Baskets and some toys
with the usual candy treats, (my sister will ration those!) and I made
some good Rib Eye steaks with Asparagus for Easter dinner.

Holidays are holidays...

;-)
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Old 03-24-2008, 12:20 PM
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"Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <13uelkcf8it6if7@corp.supernews.com>,
> "Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> <snipped> It was Easter Sunday... and it's "Their" not "There". <g>


You're right, I ain't to smart!!

Burr


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Old 03-24-2008, 12:20 PM
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"Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
newsmpomelet-3D9F4E.02533924032008@news.giganews.com...
> In article <13uelkcf8it6if7@corp.supernews.com>,
> "Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> <snipped> It was Easter Sunday... and it's "Their" not "There". <g>
>
> No, I made sure my Nephews had some nice Easter Baskets and some toys
> with the usual candy treats, (my sister will ration those!) and I made
> some good Rib Eye steaks with Asparagus for Easter dinner.....
>


Hey I spent about 4 hrs at an easter egg hunt/party for my daughter (despite
being an atheist) but still managed an hour bike ride. But that was nice of
you to make toys and dinner for the fam.



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Old 03-24-2008, 12:20 PM
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"Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> newsmpomelet-3D9F4E.02533924032008@news.giganews.com...
>> In article <13uelkcf8it6if7@corp.supernews.com>,
>> "Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> <snipped> It was Easter Sunday... and it's "Their" not "There". <g>
>>
>> No, I made sure my Nephews had some nice Easter Baskets and some toys
>> with the usual candy treats, (my sister will ration those!) and I made
>> some good Rib Eye steaks with Asparagus for Easter dinner.....
>>

>
> Hey I spent about 4 hrs at an easter egg hunt/party for my daughter
> (despite being an atheist) but still managed an hour bike ride. But that
> was nice of you to make toys and dinner for the fam.
>
>
>

Atheist, There ain't no "atheist" in a fox hole!

Burr


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Old 03-24-2008, 03:21 PM
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In article <47e766ec$0$6117$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> newsmpomelet-3D9F4E.02533924032008@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <13uelkcf8it6if7@corp.supernews.com>,
> > "Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > <snipped> It was Easter Sunday... and it's "Their" not "There". <g>
> >
> > No, I made sure my Nephews had some nice Easter Baskets and some toys
> > with the usual candy treats, (my sister will ration those!) and I made
> > some good Rib Eye steaks with Asparagus for Easter dinner.....
> >

>
> Hey I spent about 4 hrs at an easter egg hunt/party for my daughter (despite
> being an atheist) but still managed an hour bike ride. But that was nice of
> you to make toys and dinner for the fam.


:-)

I'm just glad they moved back from Arizona so I can watch my nephews
grow up...
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:21 PM
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In article <13uepaphosdrec2@corp.supernews.com>,
"Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote:

> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> newsmpomelet-3D9F4E.02533924032008@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <13uelkcf8it6if7@corp.supernews.com>,
> > "Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > <snipped> It was Easter Sunday... and it's "Their" not "There". <g>

>
> You're right, I ain't to smart!!
>
> Burr


Sorry... I don't generally do the "spelling" thing.
I was half-snockered from the wine I had with the Rib-eye steak. <g>
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Old 03-24-2008, 04:04 PM
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"Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
newsmpomelet-76F239.09484824032008@news.giganews.com...
> In article <47e766ec$0$6117$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> "Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> newsmpomelet-3D9F4E.02533924032008@news.giganews.com...
>> > In article <13uelkcf8it6if7@corp.supernews.com>,
>> > "Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > <snipped> It was Easter Sunday... and it's "Their" not "There". <g>
>> >
>> > No, I made sure my Nephews had some nice Easter Baskets and some toys
>> > with the usual candy treats, (my sister will ration those!) and I made
>> > some good Rib Eye steaks with Asparagus for Easter dinner.....
>> >

>>
>> Hey I spent about 4 hrs at an easter egg hunt/party for my daughter
>> (despite
>> being an atheist) but still managed an hour bike ride. But that was nice
>> of
>> you to make toys and dinner for the fam.

>
> :-)
>
> I'm just glad they moved back from Arizona so I can watch my nephews
> grow up...


You sound like a really good uncle. I was uncle to my older sibs' kids for
yrs. Now they're all grown. I finally got a real late start at age 46 and
had one of my own kids. You ever thought about having your own?


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Old 03-24-2008, 04:04 PM
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"Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote in message
.....> Atheist, There ain't no "atheist" in a fox hole!

That's a myth, Burr. Everyone's scared for their lives in a foxhole (or the
equivalent) but if they're honest with themselves and don't buy into what
they have always regarded as fairy tales, they don't find religion as an
easy way out. The only just god I could believe in is one who does't punish
you for remaining true to your principles.


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Old 03-24-2008, 05:47 PM
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In article <47e7ca9d$0$24110$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> newsmpomelet-76F239.09484824032008@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <47e766ec$0$6117$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> > "Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> newsmpomelet-3D9F4E.02533924032008@news.giganews.com...
> >> > In article <13uelkcf8it6if7@corp.supernews.com>,
> >> > "Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > <snipped> It was Easter Sunday... and it's "Their" not "There". <g>
> >> >
> >> > No, I made sure my Nephews had some nice Easter Baskets and some toys
> >> > with the usual candy treats, (my sister will ration those!) and I made
> >> > some good Rib Eye steaks with Asparagus for Easter dinner.....
> >> >
> >>
> >> Hey I spent about 4 hrs at an easter egg hunt/party for my daughter
> >> (despite
> >> being an atheist) but still managed an hour bike ride. But that was nice
> >> of
> >> you to make toys and dinner for the fam.

> >
> > :-)
> >
> > I'm just glad they moved back from Arizona so I can watch my nephews
> > grow up...

>
> You sound like a really good uncle. I was uncle to my older sibs' kids for
> yrs. Now they're all grown. I finally got a real late start at age 46 and
> had one of my own kids. You ever thought about having your own?


Unlikely to happen.
I'll just enjoy sis's kids. She's 10 years younger.

Congrats tho', it's cool that you finally have a kiddo of your own.

Boy or girl?
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Old 03-24-2008, 05:47 PM
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Zen Cohen <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > Atheist, There ain't no "atheist" in a fox hole!

>
> That's a myth, Burr. Everyone's scared for their lives in a foxhole
> (or the equivalent) but if they're honest with themselves and don't
> buy into what they have always regarded as fairy tales, they don't
> find religion as an easy way out.


And how would you? What if the true God's (which could be some Spotted
Fluffy-Monster) policy is to send to hell everyone who worships the
wrong one, but to spare non-believers? I think that for a god to
punish heritics would make perfect sense. Since there are many
religions, then, obviously, most of them are in the business of
worshiping the wrong god.

Who's stuck scared in the fox hole now?
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Old 03-24-2008, 05:47 PM
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DZ wrote:
> Zen Cohen <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > Atheist, There ain't no "atheist" in a fox hole!

>>
>> That's a myth, Burr. Everyone's scared for their lives in a foxhole
>> (or the equivalent) but if they're honest with themselves and don't
>> buy into what they have always regarded as fairy tales, they don't
>> find religion as an easy way out.

>
> And how would you? What if the true God's (which could be some Spotted
> Fluffy-Monster) policy is to send to hell everyone who worships the
> wrong one, but to spare non-believers? I think that for a god to
> punish heretics would make perfect sense. Since there are many
> religions, then, obviously, most of them are in the business of
> worshiping the wrong god.
>
> Who's stuck scared in the fox hole now?


Continuing this line of argument, when the day comes, an atheist will
claim ignorance, but what would a zealous believer say? Continue to
assert that the Fluffy is a false god? Admit that the real reason he
believed in a wrong god was that he is scared of punishment?
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Old 03-24-2008, 05:47 PM
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"Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
newsmpomelet-AE8925.11395224032008@news.giganews.com...
> In article <47e7ca9d$0$24110$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> "Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> newsmpomelet-76F239.09484824032008@news.giganews.com...
>> > In article <47e766ec$0$6117$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
>> > "Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> newsmpomelet-3D9F4E.02533924032008@news.giganews.com...
>> >> > In article <13uelkcf8it6if7@corp.supernews.com>,
>> >> > "Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > <snipped> It was Easter Sunday... and it's "Their" not "There". <g>
>> >> >
>> >> > No, I made sure my Nephews had some nice Easter Baskets and some
>> >> > toys
>> >> > with the usual candy treats, (my sister will ration those!) and I
>> >> > made
>> >> > some good Rib Eye steaks with Asparagus for Easter dinner.....
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Hey I spent about 4 hrs at an easter egg hunt/party for my daughter
>> >> (despite
>> >> being an atheist) but still managed an hour bike ride. But that was
>> >> nice
>> >> of
>> >> you to make toys and dinner for the fam.
>> >
>> > :-)
>> >
>> > I'm just glad they moved back from Arizona so I can watch my nephews
>> > grow up...

>>
>> You sound like a really good uncle. I was uncle to my older sibs' kids
>> for
>> yrs. Now they're all grown. I finally got a real late start at age 46
>> and
>> had one of my own kids. You ever thought about having your own?

>
> Unlikely to happen.
> I'll just enjoy sis's kids. She's 10 years younger.
>
> Congrats tho', it's cool that you finally have a kiddo of your own.
>
> Boy or girl?


Girl. Three yrs old. Dang cute if you ask me but I'm kinda biased.


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Old 03-24-2008, 05:47 PM
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"DZ" <28359@29835420.2251122797.19572.6758.27500> wrote in message
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> Zen Cohen <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > Atheist, There ain't no "atheist" in a fox hole!

>>
>> That's a myth, Burr. Everyone's scared for their lives in a foxhole
>> (or the equivalent) but if they're honest with themselves and don't
>> buy into what they have always regarded as fairy tales, they don't
>> find religion as an easy way out.

>
> And how would you? What if the true God's (which could be some Spotted
> Fluffy-Monster) policy is to send to hell everyone who worships the
> wrong one, but to spare non-believers? I think that for a god to
> punish heritics would make perfect sense. Since there are many
> religions, then, obviously, most of them are in the business of
> worshiping the wrong god.
>


Dunno about you but bottom line for me is that the reality of a god in the
mode of judeo-xian religions resonates no more than a Spotted Fluffy
Monster. I try to live a good life, help others, use common sense, and if
that's not enough to satisfy whatever god might exist, then fuck him.

> Who's stuck scared in the fox hole now?


Huh?


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Old 03-24-2008, 05:47 PM
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Zen Cohen <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "DZ" wrote:
>> Who's stuck scared in the fox hole now?

>
> Huh?


This is usenet :-) Don't assume that I am arguing with YOU.
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Old 03-24-2008, 05:47 PM
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In article <26034@19521781.2023629254.17551.7728.32229>,
DZ <31721@1047322596.1282321219.32505.519.10164> wrote:

> DZ wrote:
> > Zen Cohen <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> "Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> > Atheist, There ain't no "atheist" in a fox hole!
> >>
> >> That's a myth, Burr. Everyone's scared for their lives in a foxhole
> >> (or the equivalent) but if they're honest with themselves and don't
> >> buy into what they have always regarded as fairy tales, they don't
> >> find religion as an easy way out.

> >
> > And how would you? What if the true God's (which could be some Spotted
> > Fluffy-Monster) policy is to send to hell everyone who worships the
> > wrong one, but to spare non-believers? I think that for a god to
> > punish heretics would make perfect sense. Since there are many
> > religions, then, obviously, most of them are in the business of
> > worshiping the wrong god.
> >
> > Who's stuck scared in the fox hole now?

>
> Continuing this line of argument, when the day comes, an atheist will
> claim ignorance, but what would a zealous believer say? Continue to
> assert that the Fluffy is a false god? Admit that the real reason he
> believed in a wrong god was that he is scared of punishment?


God forbid...
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Old 03-24-2008, 05:47 PM
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In article <47e7e10f$0$24113$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I finally got a real late start at age 46
> >> and
> >> had one of my own kids. You ever thought about having your own?

> >
> > Unlikely to happen.
> > I'll just enjoy sis's kids. She's 10 years younger.
> >
> > Congrats tho', it's cool that you finally have a kiddo of your own.
> >
> > Boy or girl?

>
> Girl. Three yrs old. Dang cute if you ask me but I'm kinda biased.


Pics? :-)
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Old 03-24-2008, 05:47 PM
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In article <47e7e121$0$24123$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "DZ" <28359@29835420.2251122797.19572.6758.27500> wrote in message
> news:27211@1441530355.3051717174.27397.21055.18220 ...
> > Zen Cohen <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> "Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> > Atheist, There ain't no "atheist" in a fox hole!
> >>
> >> That's a myth, Burr. Everyone's scared for their lives in a foxhole
> >> (or the equivalent) but if they're honest with themselves and don't
> >> buy into what they have always regarded as fairy tales, they don't
> >> find religion as an easy way out.

> >
> > And how would you? What if the true God's (which could be some Spotted
> > Fluffy-Monster) policy is to send to hell everyone who worships the
> > wrong one, but to spare non-believers? I think that for a god to
> > punish heritics would make perfect sense. Since there are many
> > religions, then, obviously, most of them are in the business of
> > worshiping the wrong god.
> >

>
> Dunno about you but bottom line for me is that the reality of a god in the
> mode of judeo-xian religions resonates no more than a Spotted Fluffy
> Monster. I try to live a good life, help others, use common sense, and if
> that's not enough to satisfy whatever god might exist, then fuck him.


Similar to a classic line from Conan the Barbarian.

>
> > Who's stuck scared in the fox hole now?

>
> Huh?


Ditto?
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Old 03-24-2008, 05:47 PM
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In article <31849@129848547.2027724632.28091.31459.5419>,
DZ <18147@115786059.2775523606.3354.27881.11202> wrote:

> Zen Cohen <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > "DZ" wrote:
> >> Who's stuck scared in the fox hole now?

> >
> > Huh?

>
> This is usenet :-) Don't assume that I am arguing with YOU.


The voices in your head? <g>
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Old 03-24-2008, 08:18 PM
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Omelet <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote:
> DZ wrote:
>> Zen Cohen <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > "DZ" wrote:
>> >> Who's stuck scared in the fox hole now?
>> >
>> > Huh?

>>
>> This is usenet :-) Don't assume that I am arguing with YOU.

>
> The voices in your head? <g>


Burr brought up the fox hole, so there you have it. It would be Burr,
if you force me to point fingers :-)
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Old 03-24-2008, 08:18 PM
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In article <14712@351923490.1712624742.29802.7509.18593>,
DZ <18648@262881613.2889632481.31354.13733.30333> wrote:

> Omelet <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote:
> > DZ wrote:
> >> Zen Cohen <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > "DZ" wrote:
> >> >> Who's stuck scared in the fox hole now?
> >> >
> >> > Huh?
> >>
> >> This is usenet :-) Don't assume that I am arguing with YOU.

> >
> > The voices in your head? <g>

>
> Burr brought up the fox hole, so there you have it. It would be Burr,
> if you force me to point fingers :-)


Whatever works... ;-)
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Old 03-24-2008, 10:02 PM
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Dnia 2008-03-24 DZ napisał(a):
> DZ wrote:
>> Zen Cohen <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> "Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> > Atheist, There ain't no "atheist" in a fox hole!
>>>
>>> That's a myth, Burr. Everyone's scared for their lives in a foxhole
>>> (or the equivalent) but if they're honest with themselves and don't
>>> buy into what they have always regarded as fairy tales, they don't
>>> find religion as an easy way out.

>>
>> And how would you? What if the true God's (which could be some Spotted
>> Fluffy-Monster) policy is to send to hell everyone who worships the
>> wrong one, but to spare non-believers? I think that for a god to
>> punish heretics would make perfect sense. Since there are many
>> religions, then, obviously, most of them are in the business of
>> worshiping the wrong god.
>>
>> Who's stuck scared in the fox hole now?

>
> Continuing this line of argument, when the day comes, an atheist will
> claim ignorance, but what would a zealous believer say? Continue to
> assert that the Fluffy is a false god? Admit that the real reason he
> believed in a wrong god was that he is scared of punishment?


According to Judeo-Christian tradition, you are supposed to be scared of
punishment. That's the right thing to do. Those who aren't scared are
sinners, and they will be punished even harder.

Now, I've no idea how Fluffy sees things here. He could be that vicious
kind of bastard, who rewards only those who don't bother him with
prayers and punishes those who worship the wrong gods or do their rites
wrongly. Gods in Nethack do just that.

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Old 03-24-2008, 10:02 PM
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Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dnia 2008-03-24 DZ napisał(a):
>> What if the true God's (which could be some Spotted Fluffy-Monster)
>> policy is to send to hell everyone who worships the wrong one, but
>> to spare non-believers? I think that for a god to punish heretics
>> would make perfect sense. Since there are many religions, then,
>> obviously, most of them are in the business of worshiping the wrong
>> god.
>>
>> Who's stuck scared in the fox hole now?
>>
>> Continuing this line of argument, when the day comes, an atheist will
>> claim ignorance, but what would a zealous believer say? Continue to
>> assert that the Fluffy is a false god? Admit that the real reason he
>> believed in a wrong god was that he is scared of punishment?

>
> According to Judeo-Christian tradition, you are supposed to be scared of
> punishment. That's the right thing to do. Those who aren't scared are
> sinners, and they will be punished even harder.


Fine, but Judeo-Christian isn't my tradition. I grew up with no
exposure to religion. So, how am I supposed to choose between the
Bible and the Koran?

It's not like Coke vs. Pepsi, mind you, because my soul is at stake.

> Now, I've no idea how Fluffy sees things here. He could be that vicious
> kind of bastard, who rewards only those who don't bother him with
> prayers and punishes those who worship the wrong gods or do their rites
> wrongly. Gods in Nethack do just that.


I had to look it up. I played a computer game once, around 1990 and it
sucked.

In fact, I suspect that my soul got so stilldead-bored, it left the
building. I mean, the body.
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Old 03-24-2008, 10:02 PM
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Dnia 2008-03-24 DZ napisał(a):
> Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> According to Judeo-Christian tradition, you are supposed to be scared of
>> punishment. That's the right thing to do. Those who aren't scared are
>> sinners, and they will be punished even harder.

>
> Fine, but Judeo-Christian isn't my tradition. I grew up with no
> exposure to religion. So, how am I supposed to choose between the
> Bible and the Koran?


There is this concept of gnosis, which means that God can influence you
directly and will help you choose right. Although he may not care for
you much, and not influence you. Or you may shut yourself off from his
influence (which I think is close to official understanding of how it
supposedly goes).

> It's not like Coke vs. Pepsi, mind you, because my soul is at stake.


Ignorance is no defense.

>> Now, I've no idea how Fluffy sees things here. He could be that vicious
>> kind of bastard, who rewards only those who don't bother him with
>> prayers and punishes those who worship the wrong gods or do their rites
>> wrongly. Gods in Nethack do just that.

>
> I had to look it up. I played a computer game once, around 1990 and it
> sucked.


You may safely try Nethack. http://www.nethack.org/v343/Guidebook.html
It's irresistibly geekish.

> In fact, I suspect that my soul got so stilldead-bored, it left the
> building. I mean, the body.


Information is immaterial. What makes you really you has very little to
do with a carrier itself, so this soul concept isn't all stupid.

--
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Old 03-24-2008, 10:55 PM
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Omelet <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote:
> DZ wrote:
>> Omelet <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > DZ wrote:
>> >> Zen Cohen <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > "DZ" wrote:
>> >> >> Who's stuck scared in the fox hole now?
>> >> >
>> >> > Huh?
>> >>
>> >> This is usenet :-) Don't assume that I am arguing with YOU.
>> >
>> > The voices in your head? <g>

>>
>> Burr brought up the fox hole, so there you have it. It would be Burr,
>> if you force me to point fingers :-)

>
> Whatever works... ;-)


Hey, if those voices in my head keep getting louder, I might
eventually turn into a prophet.
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Old 03-24-2008, 10:55 PM
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"DZ" <18648@262881613.2889632481.31354.13733.30333> wrote in message
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> Omelet <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> DZ wrote:
>>> Zen Cohen <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> > "DZ" wrote:
>>> >> Who's stuck scared in the fox hole now?
>>> >
>>> > Huh?
>>>
>>> This is usenet :-) Don't assume that I am arguing with YOU.

>>
>> The voices in your head? <g>

>
> Burr brought up the fox hole, so there you have it. It would be Burr,
> if you force me to point fingers :-)


"""WHAT" I just asked if anybody got off the""I""r ass and went to the
gym???

BUT, Zen I like your statement about the way you live your life day to day,
I also try to do what I can to help but, It Ain't Easy over HERE!!!

Burr


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Old 03-25-2008, 12:40 AM
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"Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> It's gym day and I feel sore the old gang was all there and pumping iron,
> a little dancing/singing to the oldies for it was a good workout.
>
> Today was arms day and I can feel it arms are burning.
>
> Old Rummy got in a little jitter bugging with the squat rack and mike sang
> Missy, that seems to be one of his favor it songs, wish he would learn the
> words.
>
> Really looking forward to Wednesday, leg day. I intend to have a good sore
> week and feel good about this week.
>
> OK kids, off your duff and on the benches lets go you're half a day behind
> right now.
>
> Burr
>
> LIFE'S A BITCH. don't vote for one
>
> Big, Lean, Mean & Clean
>
> Subs. Iron Mind 20 yrs.
>
>

I have been training for a month now since I had the flu. I am still
significantly weaker. That flu really ate a lot of muscle tissue this time.


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Old 03-25-2008, 12:40 AM
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"Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> newsmpomelet-3D9F4E.02533924032008@news.giganews.com...
>> In article <13uelkcf8it6if7@corp.supernews.com>,
>> "Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> <snipped> It was Easter Sunday... and it's "Their" not "There". <g>
>>
>> No, I made sure my Nephews had some nice Easter Baskets and some toys
>> with the usual candy treats, (my sister will ration those!) and I made
>> some good Rib Eye steaks with Asparagus for Easter dinner.....
>>

>
> Hey I spent about 4 hrs at an easter egg hunt/party for my daughter
> (despite being an atheist) but still managed an hour bike ride. But that
> was nice of you to make toys and dinner for the fam.
>
>
>

My youngest daughter picked me up and took me to the zoo with her and 3 of
my grandkids. It was fun.


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Old 03-25-2008, 01:45 AM
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"Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <26034@19521781.2023629254.17551.7728.32229>,
> DZ <31721@1047322596.1282321219.32505.519.10164> wrote:
>
>> DZ wrote:
>> > Zen Cohen <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> "Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> > Atheist, There ain't no "atheist" in a fox hole!
>> >>
>> >> That's a myth, Burr. Everyone's scared for their lives in a foxhole
>> >> (or the equivalent) but if they're honest with themselves and don't
>> >> buy into what they have always regarded as fairy tales, they don't
>> >> find religion as an easy way out.
>> >
>> > And how would you? What if the true God's (which could be some Spotted
>> > Fluffy-Monster) policy is to send to hell everyone who worships the
>> > wrong one, but to spare non-believers? I think that for a god to
>> > punish heretics would make perfect sense. Since there are many
>> > religions, then, obviously, most of them are in the business of
>> > worshiping the wrong god.
>> >
>> > Who's stuck scared in the fox hole now?

>>
>> Continuing this line of argument, when the day comes, an atheist will
>> claim ignorance, but what would a zealous believer say? Continue to
>> assert that the Fluffy is a false god? Admit that the real reason he
>> believed in a wrong god was that he is scared of punishment?

>
> God forbid...
> --
> --
>
> Peace! Om
>
> "Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. They have never
> forgotten this." - Heinlein


Hard to believe this all started from someone asking if anyone went to the
gym


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Old 03-25-2008, 02:19 AM
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In article <25966@24433410.1719025074.5171.26438.3576>,
DZ <15743@264834036.107723719.8899.14682.3419> wrote:

> Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Dnia 2008-03-24 DZ napisał(a):
> >> What if the true God's (which could be some Spotted Fluffy-Monster)
> >> policy is to send to hell everyone who worships the wrong one, but
> >> to spare non-believers? I think that for a god to punish heretics
> >> would make perfect sense. Since there are many religions, then,
> >> obviously, most of them are in the business of worshiping the wrong
> >> god.
> >>
> >> Who's stuck scared in the fox hole now?
> >>
> >> Continuing this line of argument, when the day comes, an atheist will
> >> claim ignorance, but what would a zealous believer say? Continue to
> >> assert that the Fluffy is a false god? Admit that the real reason he
> >> believed in a wrong god was that he is scared of punishment?

> >
> > According to Judeo-Christian tradition, you are supposed to be scared of
> > punishment. That's the right thing to do. Those who aren't scared are
> > sinners, and they will be punished even harder.

>
> Fine, but Judeo-Christian isn't my tradition. I grew up with no
> exposure to religion. So, how am I supposed to choose between the
> Bible and the Koran?


Worship Cthulhu.

Why settle for a lesser evil?

>
> It's not like Coke vs. Pepsi, mind you, because my soul is at stake.
>
> > Now, I've no idea how Fluffy sees things here. He could be that vicious
> > kind of bastard, who rewards only those who don't bother him with
> > prayers and punishes those who worship the wrong gods or do their rites
> > wrongly. Gods in Nethack do just that.

>
> I had to look it up. I played a computer game once, around 1990 and it
> sucked.
>
> In fact, I suspect that my soul got so stilldead-bored, it left the
> building. I mean, the body.

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Peace! Om

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forgotten this." - Heinlein
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Old 03-25-2008, 02:19 AM
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"Homer Simpson" <homersimpson@springfield.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> newsmpomelet-59CE82.12293324032008@news.giganews.com...
>> In article <26034@19521781.2023629254.17551.7728.32229>,
>> DZ <31721@1047322596.1282321219.32505.519.10164> wrote:
>>
>>> DZ wrote:
>>> > Zen Cohen <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> "Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> >> > Atheist, There ain't no "atheist" in a fox hole!
>>> >>
>>> >> That's a myth, Burr. Everyone's scared for their lives in a foxhole
>>> >> (or the equivalent) but if they're honest with themselves and don't
>>> >> buy into what they have always regarded as fairy tales, they don't
>>> >> find religion as an easy way out.
>>> >
>>> > And how would you? What if the true God's (which could be some Spotted
>>> > Fluffy-Monster) policy is to send to hell everyone who worships the
>>> > wrong one, but to spare non-believers? I think that for a god to
>>> > punish heretics would make perfect sense. Since there are many
>>> > religions, then, obviously, most of them are in the business of
>>> > worshiping the wrong god.
>>> >
>>> > Who's stuck scared in the fox hole now?
>>>
>>> Continuing this line of argument, when the day comes, an atheist will
>>> claim ignorance, but what would a zealous believer say? Continue to
>>> assert that the Fluffy is a false god? Admit that the real reason he
>>> believed in a wrong god was that he is scared of punishment?

>>
>> God forbid...
>> --
>> --
>>
>> Peace! Om
>>
>> "Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. They have never
>> forgotten this." - Heinlein

>
> Hard to believe this all started from someone asking if anyone went to the
> gym
>


Welcome to MFW.

Burr
PS, I still don't know who has gone to the gym yet.


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Old 03-25-2008, 02:19 AM
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In article <sOXFj.77650$497.55242@newsfe14.phx>,
"Homer Simpson" <homersimpson@springfield.com> wrote:

> "Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:13uelkcf8it6if7@corp.supernews.com...
> > It's gym day and I feel sore the old gang was all there and pumping iron,
> > a little dancing/singing to the oldies for it was a good workout.
> >
> > Today was arms day and I can feel it arms are burning.
> >
> > Old Rummy got in a little jitter bugging with the squat rack and mike sang
> > Missy, that seems to be one of his favor it songs, wish he would learn the
> > words.
> >
> > Really looking forward to Wednesday, leg day. I intend to have a good sore
> > week and feel good about this week.
> >
> > OK kids, off your duff and on the benches lets go you're half a day behind
> > right now.
> >
> > Burr
> >
> > LIFE'S A BITCH. don't vote for one
> >
> > Big, Lean, Mean & Clean
> >
> > Subs. Iron Mind 20 yrs.
> >
> >

> I have been training for a month now since I had the flu. I am still
> significantly weaker. That flu really ate a lot of muscle tissue this time.


Look in to immune system boosting supplements.
I personally recommend milk thistle. It's the only thing I've changed in
my supplements and every single co-worker came down with the flu' this
year so I was constantly exposed.

So far, I've managed to avoid it. ;-)

Regular hand washing helps too.
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Peace! Om

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forgotten this." - Heinlein
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Old 03-25-2008, 02:19 AM
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In article <KPXFj.77651$497.7735@newsfe14.phx>,
"Homer Simpson" <homersimpson@springfield.com> wrote:

> "Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:47e766ec$0$6117$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> >
> > "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > newsmpomelet-3D9F4E.02533924032008@news.giganews.com...
> >> In article <13uelkcf8it6if7@corp.supernews.com>,
> >> "Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> <snipped> It was Easter Sunday... and it's "Their" not "There". <g>
> >>
> >> No, I made sure my Nephews had some nice Easter Baskets and some toys
> >> with the usual candy treats, (my sister will ration those!) and I made
> >> some good Rib Eye steaks with Asparagus for Easter dinner.....
> >>

> >
> > Hey I spent about 4 hrs at an easter egg hunt/party for my daughter
> > (despite being an atheist) but still managed an hour bike ride. But that
> > was nice of you to make toys and dinner for the fam.
> >
> >
> >

> My youngest daughter picked me up and took me to the zoo with her and 3 of
> my grandkids. It was fun.


Cool. :-)

I should probably arrange a zoo trip with the nephews. Dys' is old
enough now to appreciate it. There is a good one in San Antonio.
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forgotten this." - Heinlein
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Old 03-25-2008, 02:19 AM
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