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Old 05-26-2007, 09:56 AM
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This site has sure changed a lot in the last few years while I was gone.
Lots of new faces and ideas. I hung out here a few years while I worked out
at "Gold's" and then "24 Hour Fitness". Maybe some of you will remember me!



I still do three a week, one and a half hours and push some big weights.
Cycle two days a week about an hour with a 66 cadence.



I'm 65 5'.9" #260 and a diabetic with a 5.6 for the last four years. It's
"do or die" so I do.



I'm retired now and living in the Philippines, I workout with the former
"Mr. Philippines" and former coach of the Philippine team.



I'll hang around awhile and see how the group is going, maybe I can find
something that will help me, and maybe I can help someone.



Burr


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On May 26, 1:20 am, "download.com" <pitzra...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> This site has sure changed a lot in the last few years while I was gone.
> Lots of new faces and ideas. I hung out here a few years while I worked out
> at "Gold's" and then "24 Hour Fitness". Maybe some of you will remember me!
>
> I still do three a week, one and a half hours and push some big weights.
> Cycle two days a week about an hour with a 66 cadence.
>
> I'm 65 5'.9" #260 and a diabetic with a 5.6 for the last four years. It's
> "do or die" so I do.
>
> I'm retired now and living in the Philippines, I workout with the former
> "Mr. Philippines" and former coach of the Philippine team.
>
> I'll hang around awhile and see how the group is going, maybe I can find
> something that will help me, and maybe I can help someone.
>
> Burr




Hmmm, always great to have someone from the Golden Age of MFW around!
It should be very interesting to hear your opinions on things. But
what are you looking for yourself?

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Old 05-26-2007, 09:56 AM
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download.com wrote:
[...]

> I'm 65 5'.9" #260 and a diabetic
> with a 5.6 for the last four years. It's
> "do or die" so I do.
>
> I'm retired now and living in the
> Philippines, I workout with the former
> "Mr. Philippines" and former coach
> of the Philippine team.
>
> I'll hang around awhile and see how
> the group is going, maybe I can find
> something that will help me, and
> maybe I can help someone.
>
> Burr


What's that like? Living in the Philippines?

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"Prisoner at War" <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On May 26, 1:20 am, "download.com" <pitzra...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> This site has sure changed a lot in the last few years while I was gone.
>> Lots of new faces and ideas. I hung out here a few years while I worked
>> out
>> at "Gold's" and then "24 Hour Fitness". Maybe some of you will remember
>> me!
>>
>> I still do three a week, one and a half hours and push some big weights.
>> Cycle two days a week about an hour with a 66 cadence.
>>
>> I'm 65 5'.9" #260 and a diabetic with a 5.6 for the last four years. It's
>> "do or die" so I do.
>>
>> I'm retired now and living in the Philippines, I workout with the former
>> "Mr. Philippines" and former coach of the Philippine team.
>>
>> I'll hang around awhile and see how the group is going, maybe I can find
>> something that will help me, and maybe I can help someone.
>>
>> Burr

>
>
>
> Hmmm, always great to have someone from the Golden Age of MFW around!
> It should be very interesting to hear your opinions on things. But
> what are you looking for yourself?
>


Nothing much, I'm retired, you do it!
Just watching like I said I may pickup something.
I push the iron three days a week, not much more to say.

Burr


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"Curt" <>
> What's that like? Living in the Philippines?
>
> --
> Curt
>


I'm lucky; I married a retired Pilipino banker in the states when moved here
after a few years. She had a nice house in a nice area.



I can't drink because on my meds so that works out nice. I have a "Very
Little" 4x4 pickup and a van so we get around.



BUT, it's hard; my ways are not always their ways. The internet and gym are
my out lets. I swim, snorkel and surf on the east coast a lot also.



Burr


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"Prisoner at War" <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On May 26, 1:20 am, "download.com" <pitzra...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> This site has sure changed a lot in the last few years while I was gone.
>> Lots of new faces and ideas. I hung out here a few years while I worked
>> out
>> at "Gold's" and then "24 Hour Fitness". Maybe some of you will remember
>> me!
>>
>> I still do three a week, one and a half hours and push some big weights.
>> Cycle two days a week about an hour with a 66 cadence.
>>
>> I'm 65 5'.9" #260 and a diabetic with a 5.6 for the last four years. It's
>> "do or die" so I do.
>>
>> I'm retired now and living in the Philippines, I workout with the former
>> "Mr. Philippines" and former coach of the Philippine team.
>>
>> I'll hang around awhile and see how the group is going, maybe I can find
>> something that will help me, and maybe I can help someone.
>>
>> Burr

>
>
>
> Hmmm, always great to have someone from the Golden Age of MFW around!
> It should be very interesting to hear your opinions on things. But
> what are you looking for yourself?
>


PS: So what's with the "Prisoner at War"?


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On May 26, 2:30 am, "download.com" <pitzra...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> PS: So what's with the "Prisoner at War"?



Special Forces adage -- they are taught to think of themselves, during
SERE training (Survival Evasion Rescue Escape), not as prisoners *of*
war but prisoners *at* war.

No, I'm no Green Beret. Was only ever a PFC, but I've seen these guys
from afar and I've always been impressed with the idea of never giving
up. I find myself so at odds with the world that, when casting about
for a new e-mail addy (since posting to usenet eventually destroys an
account with spam), I thought this would be a good reminder to myself
of the first principle of life: never give up.

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Old 05-26-2007, 09:56 AM
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On May 26, 2:22 am, "download.com" <pitzra...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> Nothing much, I'm retired, you do it!
> Just watching like I said I may pickup something.
> I push the iron three days a week, not much more to say.
>
> Burr



Ah, okay, semantics -- saying "maybe I'll find something" could sound
like you were looking for something, which is why I'd asked.

Sounds like you've got great workout partners. I think more than
overtraining, nutrition, or sleep, the biggest factor in my
performance plateau has been the lack of a workout partner. Luckily,
there's someone now who might fit the bill; I'll see how that works
out. So it's great that you're training with some real pros! I'd be
especially curious to hear what you know of their impressions on
various matters of weightlifting and bodybuilding.


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"download.com" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Prisoner at War" <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1180158919.363480.233020@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
>> On May 26, 1:20 am, "download.com" <pitzra...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> This site has sure changed a lot in the last few years while I was gone.
>>> Lots of new faces and ideas. I hung out here a few years while I worked
>>> out
>>> at "Gold's" and then "24 Hour Fitness". Maybe some of you will remember
>>> me!
>>>
>>> I still do three a week, one and a half hours and push some big weights.
>>> Cycle two days a week about an hour with a 66 cadence.
>>>
>>> I'm 65 5'.9" #260 and a diabetic with a 5.6 for the last four years.
>>> It's
>>> "do or die" so I do.
>>>
>>> I'm retired now and living in the Philippines, I workout with the former
>>> "Mr. Philippines" and former coach of the Philippine team.
>>>
>>> I'll hang around awhile and see how the group is going, maybe I can find
>>> something that will help me, and maybe I can help someone.
>>>
>>> Burr

>>
>>
>>
>> Hmmm, always great to have someone from the Golden Age of MFW around!
>> It should be very interesting to hear your opinions on things. But
>> what are you looking for yourself?
>>

>
> PS: So what's with the "Prisoner at War"?
>


In all seriousness man, ignore this sad little troll. He is just another of
the millions of anonymous cowards who don't even work out, but talk shit and
lie about themselves all day. It is good to see a diabetic who takes his
condition seriously. I spent 8.5 years on dialysis, so I know a lot of
people who did not take their diets seriously and ended up ruining their
kidneys and or going blind.

Take care

Rob



--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/


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Old 05-26-2007, 09:56 AM
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"Curt" <curtjames@gmail.com> schreef:

> What's that like? Living in the Philippines?


Lotsa cute, feminin woman!

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"download.com" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> schreef:

> BUT, it's hard; my ways are not always their ways. The internet and gym
> are my out lets. I swim, snorkel and surf on the east coast a lot also.


Yeah, life sucks...

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Old 05-27-2007, 07:36 PM
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"Prisoner at War" <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On May 26, 2:30 am, "download.com" <pitzra...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> PS: So what's with the "Prisoner at War"?

>
>
> Special Forces adage -- they are taught to think of themselves, during
> SERE training (Survival Evasion Rescue Escape), not as prisoners *of*
> war but prisoners *at* war.
>
> No, I'm no Green Beret. Was only ever a PFC, but I've seen these guys
> from afar and I've always been impressed with the idea of never giving
> up. I find myself so at odds with the world that, when casting about
> for a new e-mail addy (since posting to usenet eventually destroys an
> account with spam), I thought this would be a good reminder to myself
> of the first principle of life: never give up.
>


CHP use the same Motto.

Burr


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Old 05-27-2007, 07:36 PM
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"Hard Bop Drums"
>
> In all seriousness man, ignore this sad little troll. He is just another
> of the millions of anonymous cowards who don't even work out, but talk
> shit and lie about themselves all day. It is good to see a diabetic who
> takes his condition seriously. I spent 8.5 years on dialysis, so I know a
> lot of people who did not take their diets seriously and ended up ruining
> their kidneys and or going blind.
>
> Take care
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> --
> Robert Schuh
> "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
> intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
> the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
> the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
> - Nietzsche
>
> http://www.hardbopdrums.com/
>

So, now did you get off dialysis?

Burr


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"Pete" <phoutstra@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
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> "Curt" <curtjames@gmail.com> schreef:
>
>> What's that like? Living in the Philippines?

>
> Lotsa cute, feminin woman!
>
> --
> Pete
>


They do have some Foxes over here, all it takes is a "few" green backs
BUT, when the moneys gone so are they.

I take my wife to the market and wait in the van (if they see me the price
goes up) and you should seen the woman.
Damn I wish I was 30 again!!!


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Old 05-27-2007, 07:36 PM
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"download.com" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> schreef:

>>> What's that like? Living in the Philippines?


>> Lotsa cute, feminin woman!


> They do have some Foxes over here, all it takes is a "few" green backs
> BUT, when the moneys gone so are they.


I heard that!

> I take my wife to the market and wait in the van (if they see me the price
> goes up) and you should seen the woman.


Shame on you! SHAME ON YOU !!!

> Damn I wish I was 30 again!!!


Sucks to get old, doesnt it?
Just keep working out, and dont be afraid to use some chemical assistance.

Some women will still check you out

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"Pete"
>
> Shame on you! SHAME ON YOU !!!
>
>> Damn I wish I was 30 again!!!

>
> Sucks to get old, doesnt it?


I'm not getting older, I'm getting better.

> Just keep working out, and dont be afraid to use some chemical assistance.


Speck for yourself Pete
>
> Some women will still check you out


I get hit on about three times a day Pete, I have all I need and want at
home!!!
>
> --
> Pete
>


Pete, I don't have any problems, I was just joking about 30 again. I
wouldn't put up with that crap again for anything.

With all six children out of college, being a grandfather and a great
grandfather my life is fine.

I notice you sure like to post a lot here Pete, you on a three or a four day
routine? How much time do you get in the gym?

Burr


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Old 05-27-2007, 07:36 PM
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"download.com" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> schreef:

>> Sucks to get old, doesnt it?


> I'm not getting older, I'm getting better.


Okay.

>> Just keep working out, and dont be afraid to use some chemical
>> assistance.


> Speck for yourself Pete


Okay.

>> Some women will still check you out


> I get hit on about three times a day Pete, I have all I need and want at
> home!!!


Okay.

> Pete, I don't have any problems, I was just joking about 30 again.


Okay.

> I wouldn't put up with that crap again for anything.


Okay.

> With all six children out of college, being a grandfather and a great
> grandfather my life is fine.


Okay.

> I notice you sure like to post a lot here Pete, you on a three or a four
> day routine? How much time do you get in the gym?


About 5 hours/week.

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On May 26, 5:30 am, "download.com" <pitzra...@earthlink.net> wrote:
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>
> CHP use the same Motto.
>
> Burr



You mean the California Highway Patrol? "Never give up"??

Kinda funny for cops on motorbikes for some reason. I have in mind
Elmer Fudd or Wile E. Coyote!

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"download.com" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Hard Bop Drums"
>>
>> In all seriousness man, ignore this sad little troll. He is just another
>> of the millions of anonymous cowards who don't even work out, but talk
>> shit and lie about themselves all day. It is good to see a diabetic who
>> takes his condition seriously. I spent 8.5 years on dialysis, so I know a
>> lot of people who did not take their diets seriously and ended up ruining
>> their kidneys and or going blind.
>>
>> Take care
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Robert Schuh
>> "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
>> intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
>> the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
>> the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
>> - Nietzsche
>>
>> http://www.hardbopdrums.com/
>>

> So, now did you get off dialysis?
>
> Burr
>


I had a kidney transplant in Oct. of 98. I had some real morons for MDs at
the beginning who steered me away from getting a transplant as they made
more money keeping patients on dialysis. They told me all sorts of horror
stories about the anti rejection meds etc. I did not even get on the list
for 5 years. After that, I waited the exact average for an Blood type O
positive kidney in Phoenix, which was 2.5 years. In hind site, I would have
been placed on the list the second I knew my kidneys were shot. The only
problems I have had from the meds are that I get some bad cystic type acne
on occasion on my face and I get Pneumonia about once/year, but other than
that, I feel fantastic. If you saw me, you would never know anything ever
happened to me. I competed initially as a middleweight and then a lightheavy
and was 240 at my heaviest at 5'10". I have a really small bone structure,
so I always looked much heavier than I was. I am about 185 right now and
wear 28" jeans. I don't look like I did in the B&W, but I am not too far
off: ;-)

http://www.rustyiron.net/rschuh.htm

BTW, in case you were wondering, the disease I had was called FSGS or Focal
Segmental Glomerulosclerosis They have no idea how I got it. It is reaching
very high #s now in late 20s to early 30s athletic black males. I was the
right age and athletic, but the wrong color. :-) 2 guys in the NBA had the
disease and it is the same disease the did in Flex Wheeler's kidneys. My use
of Anabolic Steroids had nothing to do with it. People everywhere have to
let their loved ones know that they want to be organ donors. My kidney came
from a cadaver donor. Thousands of people die every day because there are
not enough organs being donated. It is such a shame that so many viable
organs get buried or cremated every day when they could be saving the lives
of thousands of people.


Rob


--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/


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Rob,
You're big, looks nice. You have my respect! You have paided the price of
personal sacrifice.

How old are you now?

Burr


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"Hard Bop Drums" <nospam@hardbopdrums.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Hard Bop Drums"
>>>
>>> In all seriousness man, ignore this sad little troll. He is just another
>>> of the millions of anonymous cowards who don't even work out, but talk
>>> shit and lie about themselves all day. It is good to see a diabetic who
>>> takes his condition seriously. I spent 8.5 years on dialysis, so I know
>>> a lot of people who did not take their diets seriously and ended up
>>> ruining their kidneys and or going blind.
>>>
>>> Take care
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Robert Schuh
>>> "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
>>> intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
>>> the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
>>> the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
>>> - Nietzsche
>>>
>>> http://www.hardbopdrums.com/
>>>

>> So, now did you get off dialysis?
>>
>> Burr
>>

>
> I had a kidney transplant in Oct. of 98. I had some real morons for MDs at
> the beginning who steered me away from getting a transplant as they made
> more money keeping patients on dialysis. They told me all sorts of horror
> stories about the anti rejection meds etc. I did not even get on the list
> for 5 years. After that, I waited the exact average for an Blood type O
> positive kidney in Phoenix, which was 2.5 years. In hind site,


That would actually be the location of your ass, Bert. Maybe you were
struggling to come up with 'hindsight'.


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On Sat, 26 May 2007 14:43:50 -0700, "Hard Bop Drums"
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>I had a kidney transplant in Oct. of 98. I had some real morons for MDs


No kidding.

> I competed initially as a middleweight and then a lightheavy
>and was 240 at my heaviest at 5'10". I have a really small bone structure,
>so I always looked much heavier than I was. I am about 185 right now and
>wear 28" jeans. I don't look like I did in the B&W, but I am not too far
>off: ;-)


Fifty five pounds is not too far off huh. And that includes the 15
pounds you added recently.

>http://www.rustyiron.net/rschuh.htm


And that is how Rob will always see himself. Most people don't look
like they did 30 years ago.

>BTW, in case you were wondering, the disease I had was called FSGS or Focal
>Segmental Glomerulosclerosis They have no idea how I got it. It is reaching
>very high #s now in late 20s to early 30s athletic black males. I was the
>right age and athletic, but the wrong color. :-)


Perhaps you have some black blood running through your veins.

> My kidney came
>from a cadaver donor. Thousands of people die every day because there are
>not enough organs being donated. It is such a shame that so many viable
>organs get buried or cremated every day when they could be saving the lives
>of thousands of people.


Yeah let's violate people's religious beliefs so we can keep you
alive. Destroying your own kidneys doesn't give you a right to take
someone else's.
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